FYI

Title Descripción y censo general de la Intendencia de Guadalajara,
1789-1793
Stmnt.Resp. José Menéndez Valdés; estudio preliminar y versión de texto
de Ramón Ma. Serrera

Authors	Menendez Valdes, Jose (Main Author)
Serrera, Ramón María (Added Author)

Subjects 	Mexico, Jalisco - Census - Statistics
Mexico, Jalisco - Land and property - Statistics
Mexico, Jalisco - Description and travel

Copies
Call Number 	Location
972.35 X4m 	FHL INTL Book

Format 	Books/Monographs
Language 	Spanish
Publication 	Guadalajara, Jal. : Gobierno de Jalisco, c1980
Physical 	161 p. : il., cartas, 1 mapa (col.)

Subject Class 	972.35 X4
Series 	Colección historia. Serie estadísticas básicas : 1

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Has Anyone Ever Ordered Any of These Films?


Title	Capellanías, 1606-1899
Authors	Iglesia Católica. Diócesis de Guadalajara (México) (Main Author)

Notes Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagrada Mitra en
Guadalajara.Ecclesiastical documents regarding donations to the parishes
of the Diocese of Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico for charitable purposes
or for the support of the clergy.


Subjects 	Mexico, Jalisco - Church records
Mexico, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Church records

Format 	Manuscript (On Film)
Language 	Spanish

Publication Salt Lake City [Utah] : Filmados por la Sociedad
Genealógica de Utah, 1957-1958

Physical 	157 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.
========================

if you have what kind of information is on them? It appears that it
might have the names of those that gave significant donations? thanks,


joseph



FYI: Interesting Film/Tecolotlan, Jalisco


 Film # 1410916

Film

Item 1 Recopilación histórica, genealógica y heráldica de la familia de
Unda Unda y Murillo : llevada acabo especialmente para el Sr. licenciado
Jusús Victor Unda y Murillo Aparicio y Aparicio, Edgar Juan


Item 2 Estudio histórico y genealógico sobre la familia Guerra de las
montañas de Asturias y de Santander : rama de la Nueva Galicia con un
apéndice sobre la familia Romo de Vivar González-Leal, Mariano


Item 3 Los Altamirano en la conquista de América  Morales, Manuel de

Item 4 Libro de oro de los apellidos españoles, su etimología,
genealogía, y heráldica. Vilches y Marín, Ernesto de


Item 5 Los Morales de los Ríos  Nieto y Cortadellas, Rafael

Item 6 Un linaje de San Agustín de Tecolotlán, los Agraz Agraz García
de Alba, Gabriel


6 titles matching the film number.

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Bolaños Y Mezquital del Oro/FYI


FYI:

Title	Las minas de Nueva España en 1753
Stmnt.Resp.	Alvaro López Miramontes
Authors	López Miramontes, Alvaro (Main Author)

México. Instituto Nacional de Antropología. Departamento de
Investigaciones Históricas. Seminario de Historia Urbana (Added Author)


Notes Incluye índice.Información compilada referente a los reales de
Bolaños, Taxco, Tetela del Río, Tetela de Xonatla, Escandela
(Cadereita), Mezquital del Oro, Santa Eulalia y San Felipe del Real
(Chihuahua) en 1753.The mines of Mexico in 1753.


Subjects 	Mexico - History - 1548-1817
Mexico - Land and property
Mexico - Business records and commerce

Copies
Call Number 	Location
972 H2L 	FHL INTL Book

Format 	Books/Monographs
Language 	Spanish
Publication 	México : Instituto Nacional de Antropología e Historia, 1975
Physical 	108 p. : il.

Subject Class 	972 H2
Series 	Colección científica. Fuentes. Historia económica : 29



Necesito una Traduccion

well of course yes thanks for the offer.



thanks,



joseph



Alicia Carrillo wrote:

Joseph,
 
I don't know if you've had a reply yet  regarding the request
for a translator. I can give the translation a try and if I can't get
it just right I can find someone to assist me.
 
We just returned from Tlachichila and Nochistlan Zacatecas.I
have lots of information to share with the group.
 
Please let me know either way.
 
Best Regards, Alicia A Carrillo



Joseph Puentes wrote:



Hey,



is there anyone out there up to a translation request? I send out the
below email to all prospective members. Lately I've found the need to
have the same email in Spanish but I don't feel up to the challenge. .
.well of course I could do it and make it so it sounds like a 3rd
grader did it, but I'd like it to read right. Anyway this letter is an
example and not written in stone (this means if you have suggestions
for a completely new letter to send out sounds good to

Necesito una Traduccion

Joseph,
 
I don't know if you've had a reply yet  regarding the request for a translator. I can give the translation a try and if I can't get it just right I can find someone to assist me.
 
We just returned from Tlachichila and Nochistlan Zacatecas.I have lots of information to share with the group.
 
Please let me know either way.
 
Best Regards, Alicia A Carrillo

Joseph Puentes wrote:


Hey,

is there anyone out there up to a translation request? I send out the below email to all prospective members. Lately I've found the need to have the same email in Spanish but I don't feel up to the challenge. . .well of course I could do it and make it so it sounds like a 3rd grader did it, but I'd like it to read right. Anyway this letter is an example and not written in stone (this means if you have suggestions for a completely new letter to send out sounds good to me, but at the minimum keep the 2 requirements to be part of the group part of your version. . .I won't budge on this

Digest Number 329

Hi Joseph
I joined the Family Dna,  Is this the same.  I was a little disappointed with them, I paid around $200. 00 total for me and my brother, he is no longer with us as of this year.

What would be different with this DNA to the Family DNA
 
Mary 

-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Oct 8, 2004 9:46 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 329



There are 5 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. DNA Forum
           From: Joseph Puentes 
      2. New file uploaded to ranchos
           From: ranchos
      3. New file uploaded to ranchos
           From: ranchos
      4. New file uploaded to ranchos
           From: ranchos
      5. Re: New file uploaded to ranchos
           From: "marge vallazza" 


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Message: 1         
   Date: Thu, 07 Oct

New file uploaded to ranchos

This is the third time I've gotten this
message.:(  I already went and looked, and it's a fantastic site. 
Marge:)


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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:13
PM

Subject: [ranchos] New file uploaded to
ranchos




Hello,

This email message is a notification
to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the
ranchos
group.

 
File        : /Alberto Duarte
Prieto/Desecndants of Fernando Duarte.pdf
  Uploaded by : albertodua
aduarte@...>

  Description : My Family Trees from Mexico

You can access
this file at the URL:

href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/Alberto%20Duarte%20Prieto/Desecndants%20of%20Fernando%20Duarte.pdf">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/Alberto%20Duarte%20Prieto/Desecndants%20of%20Fernando%20Duarte.pdf



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Regards,

albertodua









New file uploaded to ranchos


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /Alberto Duarte Prieto/Francisco_s pdf.pdf Yes 
  Uploaded by : albertodua  
  Description : My Family Tree 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/Alberto%20Duarte%20Prieto/Francisco_s%20pdf.pdf%20Yes 

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Regards,

albertodua 
 







New file uploaded to ranchos


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /Alberto Duarte Prieto/Francisco Prieto Alvarez family tree.FTW 
  Uploaded by : albertodua  
  Description : My Family Trees from Mexico 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/Alberto%20Duarte%20Prieto/Francisco%20Prieto%20Alvarez%20family%20tree.FTW 

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Regards,

albertodua 
 







New file uploaded to ranchos


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /Alberto Duarte Prieto/Desecndants of Fernando Duarte.pdf 
  Uploaded by : albertodua  
  Description : My Family Trees from Mexico 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/Alberto%20Duarte%20Prieto/Desecndants%20of%20Fernando%20Duarte.pdf 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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Regards,

albertodua 
 







DNA Forum


okay, i just know that some of you are itching (pues rasca) to know
about your Mexican DNA. And i just know you wish this group provided you
with a lot more high quality messages for you to increase your learning
on this subject. . .well never fear the Mexico DNA forum is alive and in
operation thanks to Gary Felix. why not have a look and get all your
questions asked and wait for some good answers. . . .well those answers
won't be coming from me because I'm still in the asking mode.


http://www.ybase.org/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=511

joseph

ps: the main DNA page for this project is found at:
http://members.tripod.com/~GaryFelix/index63.htm




Everton's Newsline--13 May 2004

Joseph,
I have been really busy and have not contributed for a
while.  Is that why I no longer have access to the ranchos
group?
 
Nena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg
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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:17
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Everton's Newsline--13
May 2004


Everton's Newsline--13 May 2004
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New file uploaded to ranchos


Hello,

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  File        : /Steven Hernández's Stuff (Pacorro73@...)/Kinship.doc 
  Uploaded by : capitan_paco  
  Description : Kinship between Roberto Martínez and Steven Hernández 

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New file uploaded to ranchos


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  File        : /Roberto Martinez  (malinallitekpatl@...)/Jalisco/Padilla-Marquez de Jalos.doc 
  Uploaded by : malinallitekpatl  
  Description : Padilla-Marquez de Jalos 

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New file uploaded to ranchos


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  File        : /Roberto Martinez  (malinallitekpatl@...)/Jalisco/Padilla-Gonzalez de San Miguel.doc 
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  Description : Padilla-Gonzalez de San Miguel 

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New file uploaded to ranchos


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  File        : /Roberto Martinez  (malinallitekpatl@...)/Jalisco/Martin-Olivar de San Juan de los Lagos.doc 
  Uploaded by : malinallitekpatl  
  Description : Martin-Olivar de San Juan de los Lagos 

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New file uploaded to ranchos


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  File        : /Roberto Martinez  (malinallitekpatl@...)/Jalisco/Gonzalez-Munos de San Miguel y Jalos.doc 
  Uploaded by : malinallitekpatl  
  Description : Gonzalez-Munos de San Miguel y Jalos 

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New Files Added for Los Altos de Jalisco

Hey everyone,
Hope you all are having a good weekend.  I made time today to add 
some files to my new Jalisco folder, more specifically 
Jalostotitlan, San Miguel El Alto, and San Juan de los Lagos.  The 
most common names in these files are Gonzalez, Martin, & Padilla.

I'm not all that far into the history of my familia in Jalisco.  But 
I'll be making a lot of additions in the next four months.  I'm 
fortunate to be able to go to Salt Lake City and the Family History 
Library there, and will make a lot of additions to these files in 
early December and early February. 

Check it out.

Take care,
Roberto




Necesito una Traduccion



Hey,



is there anyone out there up to a translation request? I send out the
below email to all prospective members. Lately I've found the need to
have the same email in Spanish but I don't feel up to the challenge. .
.well of course I could do it and make it so it sounds like a 3rd
grader did it, but I'd like it to read right. Anyway this letter is an
example and not written in stone (this means if you have suggestions
for a completely new letter to send out sounds good to me, but at the
minimum keep the 2 requirements to be part of the group part of your
version. . .I won't budge on this part!).



thanks,



joseph



============================================




Hello,



I'm glad you are interested in joining the Ranchos group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/.
We are a
small but dedicated group of serious researchers. Here is the
description of the group from our home page:



"This group is for those
actively searching for their Mexican Genealogy Roots. El objetivo de
este

Roberto Martinez de Los Altos



que te dije!



I told you that you and Steven would probably hook up. I'm glad you
have caught his interest as now you and those other cousins he
mentioned will have plenty to talk about. If possible it
would be way cool if you could keep the "non personal" discussions on-list
but you guys have to decide that one. Its just good to see some of
my effort paying off in discussion among the members. Anyway if you
keep it on-list very fine and if you go off-list esta bien tambien.



Be ready for the rush of material and in your research if you find that
you expand to other geographical areas of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or
Aguascalientes please share this info as well as others might care to
join your primos network.



oh by the way tambien soy Padilla but my Padillas are from the Juarez,
Chihuahua area and maybe came from Los Altos but I don't have any proof
of that.



oh another thing that would be so very cool would be this DNA thing you
mentioned. It would be great if you get sold
on

Hey hey

Hey hey, Roberto Martínez!  On behalf of the entire Ranchos group, I would like to welcome you.  My name is Steven F. Hernández, and just by the sound of the few names and Los Altos de Jalisco localities you mentioned, I can already tell you that you and I are related. 
 
You will find you already have other distant (or not so distant) kin in Ranchos.  Alice Wissing, María E. Cortéz, Irma Gómez Lucero, Roberta Romero, and María Elena (Nena) Gutiérrez Uhlenberg, among others I'm sure, share common ancestry from Los Altos.  Irma and Nena in particular, as well as myself, have many common roots in Jalostotitlán, San Miguel el Alto, San Juan de los Lagos, as well as many other towns.  There all the Martín/Martínez/Martín del Campo/Campos are one in the same family.  That MAY be your actual surname, Martín del Campo, as it was used in the past.  Seems everyone with Alteño genealogy descends from that family at least once, if not more.
 
But the same can be said about some or many of the

Hey hey

Hope everyone is doing well.  Just wanted to introduce myself.  I'm Roberto Martinez living in Albuquerque, Nuevo Mexico.  First want thank Joseph for putting in time to create this space. 

I was born in San Jose CA & found my way to Albuquerque NM.  My mother was born in Taft, Texas & my father in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.  In Jalisco, my grandfather Brigido Martinez Padilla & his family were from Jalos & San Juan de los Lagos.  My grandmother Soledad Gonzalez Padilla & her family were mostly from San Miguel & Jalos, & she in Villa Obregon (Canadas).    

Soledad Gonzalez was born in Villa Obregon in 1920 to Sabas Gonzalez Munos & Zeferina Gonzalez Padilla, who were married in the early 1900?s. 

 

Sabas Gonzalez was born in San Miguel El Alto in 1879 to Maximino Gonzalez Vallejo & Jacoba Munos Losa, who were married in San Miguel El Alto in 1876.

 

Zeferina Padilla was born in San Miguel El Alto in 1885 to Guadalupe Padilla Martin & Cleofas Gonzalez Centeno, who were married in San

Names

Irma,
 
I'll tell you right now who all those fathers were:  "Espanoles aprovechados."  I like your speculations. 
 
Alice

Irma GomezLucero wrote:
I have also seen this in Jalisco records.  The father was listed as "desconocido." Also Paternal grandparents were not even mentioned either.
I have seen many similar situations for Indian & Mulata women. 
Makes you wonder who the fathers were, huh? 
Did the woman never mention the father's name to the priest or were the names divulged in confession which would NEVER have become public record.  I think more the latter.  It isn't that the priest would be protecting the father, it's more the confidentiality of the Confession. 
Something to think about...
Irma Gomez
-----Original Message-----
From: Al Duarte [mailto:aduarte@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:33 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Names

In my genealogy research using records of baptism (1700-1800) from Zacatecas and Chihuahua, I