Nuestros Ranchos Site

HI Lorenzo send over what info what you have on your great grandfather, name, place rank
if you have any more info. Maybe I can investigate something.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Welcome Bert:

Bartolome Ruiz de Esparza married Petra Garcia on 8 May 1731 in Cienega de Mata, he was the son
Joseph RUiz de Esparza and a woman named Juana Maria, Petra was the daughter of Antonio Garcia
and Nicolasa de Villegas, I would order the marriage record to see if any other information can
be found.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Isn't it interesting that this type of dwelling is universal!  The thatch roof atop rock, wood, or wattle and daub walls can be found throughout the ancient old world and indigineous new world.  Small world, great minds.   Alice 

--- On Sun, 4/24/11, zacatecano020@hotmail.com wrote:

From: zacatecano020@hotmail.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Dwelling Structure Of Huejuquilla, Jalisco same as Galicia, Spain?
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 7:49 AM

Two pictures of dwellings.

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1293/huthuejuquilla.jpg
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/4937/hutgaliciaspain.jpg

First picture is a hut in Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico.   Second picture is a hut with similar design in Galicia, Spain

Note that the state of Jalisco in Mexico's old name is "Nueva Galicia"     New Galicia.

But could that type of dwelling in Huejuquilla get its origins from the Europe settlers from Spain that came to Huejuquilla back during the time of the Spanish?

Thank you Jonathan...
Tino and I would like to add our wishes for a Joyous and Happy Easter to each and every member of this wonderful group...
Happy Easter.
Tino and Pat Corbera

Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour

----- Original Message -----
From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:05:29 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Happy Easter

I just wanted to wish everyone in the group Happy Easter. And good luck on finding your ancsstors.

Quiero decir a todos que tienen un pascua muy feliz. Y buena suerte en encontrando sus ancestros.

Jonathan

Thank you Jonathan...
Tino and I would like to add our wishes for a Joyous and Happy Easter to each and every member of this wonderful group...
Happy Easter.
Tino and Pat Corbera

Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour

----- Original Message -----
From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:05:29 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Happy Easter

I just wanted to wish everyone in the group Happy Easter. And good luck on finding your ancsstors.

Quiero decir a todos que tienen un pascua muy feliz. Y buena suerte en encontrando sus ancestros.

Jonathan

Thank you so very much, Jonathan.  I would also like to extend my best wishes to all!   Alice

--- On Sat, 4/23/11, jonathan@mexicanfhr.com wrote:

From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Happy Easter
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 2:05 PM

I just wanted to wish everyone in the group Happy Easter. And good luck on finding your ancsstors.

Quiero decir a todos que tienen un pascua muy feliz. Y buena suerte en encontrando sus ancestros.

Jonathan

Can anybody tell me how to get there from the USA?

Raquel,
I descend from Cayetano Ruiz & Juana Rubalcaba (through Diego's sister Eusebia, who married Nicolas Vazquez de Mercado)...

I have three Diegos Ruiz:
1) Diego (I) - Cayetano's father, married Ana Gonzalez
2) Diego (II) - Cayetano's brother
3) Diego (III) - whom you believe is your ancestor...

I have not found any marriage for your Diego, but I can tell you that Cayetano was married twice:

1) Juana de Rubalcava, who died c. 1732
2) Ana Lugarda Vazquez de Mercado - married 15 Feb 1733 in Nochistlan
Note on this 2nd marriage: Ana Lugarda was Diego (III)'s son-in-law's sister [in other words: Ana Lugarda was sister to my Nicolas Vazquez de Mercado above, who married Eusebia, your potential Diego's sister!!]

I also descend from Diego's second marriage to Ana Lugarda, so I have collected all the names on this family that have been indexed. I have not researched the Cuquio films yet, but maybe you and I can put two-and-two together and I can help you confirm your suspicion.

lmk,
-C

Hi Raquel,

There’s a Ruiz Saavedra from Zacatecas who took a DNA test, and came out
R1b. Is this someone in your family?

Ricardo Rodríguez

Cronista Oficial de Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco

De: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Raquel Ruiz
Enviado el: jueves, 21 de abril de 2011 9:56 PM
Para: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Y DNA Ruiz

My Ruiz's line, descending from Diego Ruiz, c. 1712, Yahualica, Jal is
R1b1a2a1a1a(R U106 for short). I believe but as yet cannot prove that he is
the son of Cayetano Ruiz, who married Juana Rubalcaba in Cuquio, Jalisco, on
4 Feb 1712. If male out there is a direct descendent of Cayetano Ruiz and
knows his haplogroup, I would love to see if there is a match. So far none
has shown up in Ysearch or the Genealogy of Mexico surname project. I know
its a long shot, but....

I would also like to know this. I think they might be in Guanajuato try places
like Silao, Leon or Guanajuato. Just shows one person can't ignore all these
places nearby. Now you find me studying Obispado de Michoacan, Nueva
Galicia and Mexico City. Covers a large area of land.

Daniel Méndez Camino

George,
Once again thanks for your unselfishness in sharing the transcripts of the matrimonial investigations. Just like Daniel, I've been able to advance in many of my lines thanks to your efforts.

Sincerely

Jaime Alvarado

Thank you George for your time and effort every little helps when it
comes to genealogy. I have advanced my Rangel line back to ca.
1625 thanks to your post.

Daniel Méndez Camino

 
RamÓn

________________________________
From: "gpf13@aol.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 10:37:09 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Aguascalientes Matrimonial Investigations 1700 -
1200

I have just posted the second installment to my key to the Aguascalientes
matrimonial investigations. This covers the period of 1700 to 1720, and
represents about 1500 marriage investigations.

The entries are in chronological order.

The file is in the Files area, under Reference Materials, Aguascalientes
Matrimonial Investigations. http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18014

This is a pdf file of 215 pages. The references are to volume and image number
as posted on Family Search.

The file can be searched using the search feature of Adobe Acrobat Reader.
Spelling generally follows the spelling of the original record. For example,
Lopez could be either Lopez or Lopes. The obvious abbreviations have been
spelled out.

George Fulton

Excellent news. Thank you very much for sharing.

Armando

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:37 AM, wrote:

> I have just posted the second installment to my key to the Aguascalientes
> matrimonial investigations. This covers the period of 1700 to 1720, and
> represents about 1500 marriage investigations.
>
> The entries are in chronological order.
>
> The file is in the Files area, under Reference Materials, Aguascalientes
> Matrimonial Investigations. http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18014
>
> This is a pdf file of 215 pages. The references are to volume and image
> number as posted on Family Search.
>
> The file can be searched using the search feature of Adobe Acrobat Reader.
> Spelling generally follows the spelling of the original record. For example,
> Lopez could be either Lopez or Lopes. The obvious abbreviations have been
> spelled out.
>
> George Fulton
>

For Raquel Ruiz and Daniel:

Lucas CONTRERAS and Joana Maria GONSALES Masias were described as vesinos de Nochistlan as the padrinos of Joseph Manuel CALBILLO Salado, baptized 18? Feb 1703, hijo legitimo de Eugenio [MARTINES de] CALBILLO y Gertrudis [RUIS DE ESPARSA] SALADO in Nochistlan.

Also - Lucas CONTRERAS and his wife had two daughters named Rosa Maria, the first one baptized 5 Jan 1700, and the second 30 Aug 1706, both in Zacatecas.

Gloria Delgado

Hi Raquel:

I have some info on Lucas Contreras and Juana Macias Valades they
were residents in Nochistlan where they baptized several children.
Juana does appear couple times Gonzalez-Macias. So this might
be another vital clue. I do not have anyinfo beyond this point.
Were you able to find out the parents of Feliciana Alonso de los Hinojos?
I'd be interested in this if you have.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Hola Joseph Puentes, perdón por contestar hasta ahora, pero estaba de viaje y no disponía de tiempo para hacerlo; pero estoy dispuesto a ayudar en el proyecto de indexación de archivos de Jalisco. Dime que hay que hacer para empezar a trabajar en este proyecto tan importante para todos nosotros.

L.C.P. Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco, México.
Tel.: 3781095311
www.facebook.com/jorgeluis.ramirezgomez

Me gustaria poder aportar algo a este excelente proyecto, me
interesaria mucho colaborar para jalisco.
--
Omar Ruelas Santa Cruz

Azcapotzalco
Distrito Federal, México
------------------------------------
E-mail: omar.ruelas@gmail.com
MSN Messenger: omar.ruelas@gmail.com
Skype: omar-ruelas
Página web [En construcción]:
http://www.omarruelassantacruz.com/

Joseph,
Con gusto participo para dar un poco de lo mucho que he recibido.

Jaime Alvarado

Hi Joseph,

I can help, too.

Rosalinda

-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph Puentes
>Sent: Apr 6, 2011 6:32 PM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing
>
>Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
>Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
>México
>
>Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de
>indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y
>Aguascalientes
>
>Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo
>que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil
>para un proyecto tan importante.
>
>Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a
>30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los
>registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes
>
>Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los miembros
>
>Si deseas ver de qué se trata es necesario que realices una prueba muy
>simple que te llevará 2 minutos en la siguiente página:
>https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf
>
>Me parece bastante simple, los invito a realizar este proyecto tan
>importante conmigo.
>
>============================
>
>Thanks to Welester G. Alvarado we are in contact with a Mr. Rodolfo
>Derbez who is affiliated with the LDS church in Mexico and works
>specifically on the Mexico Indexing Project. We have a great opportunity
>to get involved in indexing records specifically for the states of
>Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes. There is a minimum commitment of
>30 minutes per week but I think all will agree that 30 minutes per week
>is an easy commitment for such an important project. Currently there are
>over 600 members of the group and I would like to find 30 people in the
>group willing to work on indexing records for the states of Jalisco,
>Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes (well 29 since I'm committing to the
>project). If we can find 30 people then that would roughly represent 5%
>of the membership. If you would like to see what is involved then take
>the very simple and short 2 minute test drive of the indexing project at:
>
>https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf
>
>It looks pretty simple come and join me.
>
>joseph
>
>======================
>
>Joseph Puentes
>NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
>http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
>http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
>http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
>http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
>http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
>http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
>Genealogy)
>
>

Hey Joseph, count me in. I've indexed some of the 1930 Mexican Census in the past, and I would love to do my part on this project.I hope the chosen state is Jalisco, but if not, I'll be happy to help with Aguascalientes and Zacatecas as well.
 
Steve in NC.

--- On Wed, 4/6/11, Joseph Puentes wrote:

From: Joseph Puentes
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 9:32 PM

Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo México

Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes

Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil para un proyecto tan importante.

Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a 30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes

Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los miembros

Si deseas ver de qué se trata es necesario que realices una prueba muy simple que te llevará 2 minutos en la siguiente página:
https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf

Me parece bastante simple, los invito a realizar este proyecto tan importante conmigo.

============================

Thanks to Welester G. Alvarado we are in contact with a Mr. Rodolfo Derbez who is affiliated with the LDS church in Mexico and works specifically on the Mexico Indexing Project. We have a great opportunity to get involved in indexing records specifically for the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes. There is a minimum commitment of 30 minutes per week but I think all will agree that 30 minutes per week is an easy commitment for such an important project. Currently there are over 600 members of the group and I would like to find 30 people in the group willing to work on indexing records for the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes (well 29 since I'm committing to the project). If we can find 30 people then that would roughly represent 5% of the membership. If you would like to see what is involved then take the very simple and short 2 minute test drive of the indexing project at:

https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf

It looks pretty simple come and join me.

joseph

======================

Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes Genealogy)

cunenten conmigo, para Jalisco y Guanajuato, con mucho gusto vuelvo a ayudar
ya lo hize para Chihuahua.
Espero notificacion
Sylvia H Corona Cortes

2011/4/6 Joseph Puentes

> Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
> Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
> México
>
> Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de indexación
> específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes
>
> Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo que
> todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil para un
> proyecto tan importante.
>
> Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a 30
> personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los registros
> de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes
>
> Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los
> miembros
>
> Si deseas ver de qué se trata es necesario que realices una prueba muy
> simple que te llevará 2 minutos en la siguiente página:
> https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf
>
> Me parece bastante simple, los invito a realizar este proyecto tan
> importante conmigo.
>
> ============================
>
> Thanks to Welester G. Alvarado we are in contact with a Mr. Rodolfo Derbez
> who is affiliated with the LDS church in Mexico and works specifically on
> the Mexico Indexing Project. We have a great opportunity to get involved in
> indexing records specifically for the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and
> Aguascalientes. There is a minimum commitment of 30 minutes per week but I
> think all will agree that 30 minutes per week is an easy commitment for such
> an important project. Currently there are over 600 members of the group and
> I would like to find 30 people in the group willing to work on indexing
> records for the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes (well 29
> since I'm committing to the project). If we can find 30 people then that
> would roughly represent 5% of the membership. If you would like to see what
> is involved then take the very simple and short 2 minute test drive of the
> indexing project at:
>
> https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf
>
> It looks pretty simple come and join me.
>
> joseph
>
> ======================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
> http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
> http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
> http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
> http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
> http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
> Genealogy)
>
>

Hello Daniel - you can count me in!

 
Yolanda

________________________________
From: Daniel Méndez Camino
To: Nuestros Ranchos
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2011 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing

Thanks Joseph,

It's good to hear about Jalisco. Count me in. Now I have extra time on my hands.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Please add me on to yur list. Let me know when to start and how to get into the site.

Thank You,
Hope

Con gusto puedo contribuir media hora diaria. Ya hice la prueba. Gracias por invitarnos a devolver un poquito de lo mucho que recibimos.
Angelina Casillas

Joseph:
Cuenta conmigo.
Saludos Cordiales
Jose Luis Felix

> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:32:12 -0400
> From: makas@nc.rr.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing
>
> Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
> Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
> México
>
> Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de
> indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y
> Aguascalientes
>
> Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo
> que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil
> para un proyecto tan importante.
>
> Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a
> 30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los
> registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes
>
> Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los miembros
>
> Si deseas ver de qué se trata es necesario que realices una prueba muy
> simple que te llevará 2 minutos en la siguiente página:
> https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf
>
> Me parece bastante simple, los invito a realizar este proyecto tan
> importante conmigo.
>
> ============================
>
> Thanks to Welester G. Alvarado we are in contact with a Mr. Rodolfo
> Derbez who is affiliated with the LDS church in Mexico and works
> specifically on the Mexico Indexing Project. We have a great opportunity
> to get involved in indexing records specifically for the states of
> Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes. There is a minimum commitment of
> 30 minutes per week but I think all will agree that 30 minutes per week
> is an easy commitment for such an important project. Currently there are
> over 600 members of the group and I would like to find 30 people in the
> group willing to work on indexing records for the states of Jalisco,
> Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes (well 29 since I'm committing to the
> project). If we can find 30 people then that would roughly represent 5%
> of the membership. If you would like to see what is involved then take
> the very simple and short 2 minute test drive of the indexing project at:
>
> https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf
>
> It looks pretty simple come and join me.
>
> joseph
>
> ======================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
> http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
> http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
> http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
> http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
> http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
> Genealogy)
>
>

I am willing to commit one hour per week on this project for Jalisco records.
Eloise Gomez Reyes

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo México
>
> Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes
>
> Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil para un proyecto tan importante.
>
> Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a 30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes
>
> Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los miembros
>
> Si deseas ver de qué se trata es necesario que realices una prueba muy simple que te llevará 2 minutos en la siguiente página:
> https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf
>
> Me parece bastante simple, los invito a realizar este proyecto tan importante conmigo.
>
> ============================
>
> Thanks to Welester G. Alvarado we are in contact with a Mr. Rodolfo Derbez who is affiliated with the LDS church in Mexico and works specifically on the Mexico Indexing Project. We have a great opportunity to get involved in indexing records specifically for the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes. There is a minimum commitment of 30 minutes per week but I think all will agree that 30 minutes per week is an easy commitment for such an important project. Currently there are over 600 members of the group and I would like to find 30 people in the group willing to work on indexing records for the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes (well 29 since I'm committing to the project). If we can find 30 people then that would roughly represent 5% of the membership. If you would like to see what is involved then take the very simple and short 2 minute test drive of the indexing project at:
>
> https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf
>
> It looks pretty simple come and join me.
>
> joseph
>
> ======================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
> http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
> http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
> http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
> http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
> http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes Genealogy)
>
>

Cuenta conmigo Joseph.

Si es posible quisiera ayudar con los estados de Zacatecas y Jalisco. Si no se
pude con qualquiera.

Juan Aguayo

------ Original Message ------
Received: 06:33 PM PDT, 04/06/2011
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing

Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
México

Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de
indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y
Aguascalientes

Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo
que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil
para un proyecto tan importante.

Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a
30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los
registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes

Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los miembros

Si deseas ver de qué se trata es necesario que realices una prueba muy
simple que te llevará 2 minutos en la siguiente página:
https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf

Me parece bastante simple, los invito a realizar este proyecto tan
importante conmigo.

============================

Thanks to Welester G. Alvarado we are in contact with a Mr. Rodolfo
Derbez who is affiliated with the LDS church in Mexico and works
specifically on the Mexico Indexing Project. We have a great opportunity
to get involved in indexing records specifically for the states of
Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes. There is a minimum commitment of
30 minutes per week but I think all will agree that 30 minutes per week
is an easy commitment for such an important project. Currently there are
over 600 members of the group and I would like to find 30 people in the
group willing to work on indexing records for the states of Jalisco,
Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes (well 29 since I'm committing to the
project). If we can find 30 people then that would roughly represent 5%
of the membership. If you would like to see what is involved then take
the very simple and short 2 minute test drive of the indexing project at:

https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf

It looks pretty simple come and join me.

joseph

======================

Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Count Me In

Rafael Meraz

I'm up for it because LDS has has helped so much with my research.
-Ruben Robles

Joseph,

You can count me in ... I just can't say no to something this exciting!

-Angelina-

Joseph,

Wow, 600 members in Nuestros Ranchos, I remember in 2003 when it was a very
small family, we've grown into a very large and supportive familia.

Sign me up for Zacatecas or any other Mexican State, I'm in.

Gracias Joseph!!

Alicia

________________________________
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 6:32:12 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing

Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo Derbez que
es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo México

Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de indexación
específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes

Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo que
todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil para un
proyecto tan importante.

Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a 30
personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los registros de
los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes

Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los miembros

Si deseas ver de qué se trata es necesario que realices una prueba muy simple
que te llevará 2 minutos en la siguiente página:
https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf

Me parece bastante simple, los invito a realizar este proyecto tan importante
conmigo.

============================

Thanks to Welester G. Alvarado we are in contact with a Mr. Rodolfo Derbez who
is affiliated with the LDS church in Mexico and works specifically on the Mexico
Indexing Project. We have a great opportunity to get involved in indexing
records specifically for the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes.
There is a minimum commitment of 30 minutes per week but I think all will agree
that 30 minutes per week is an easy commitment for such an important project.
Currently there are over 600 members of the group and I would like to find 30
people in the group willing to work on indexing records for the states of
Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes (well 29 since I'm committing to the
project). If we can find 30 people then that would roughly represent 5% of the
membership. If you would like to see what is involved then take the very simple
and short 2 minute test drive of the indexing project at:

https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf

It looks pretty simple come and join me.

joseph

======================

Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes Genealogy)

Joseph,

It is a natural project for those associated with Nuestros Ranchos --- who benefit immensibly from the resorces of the LDS Family Search resources --- to participate in this indexation activity.

I will be pleased to join with you and others in making an open-ended personal commitment of a minimum of 1 hour per week in Nuestros Ranchos' Jalisco Indexation work.

Saludos,

Efrain Conrique
conrique1@earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph Puentes
>Sent: Apr 6, 2011 6:32 PM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing
>
>Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
>Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
>México
>
>Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de
>indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y
>Aguascalientes
>
>Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo
>que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil
>para un proyecto tan importante.
>
>Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a
>30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los
>registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes
>
>Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los miembros
>
>Si deseas ver de qué se trata es necesario que realices una prueba muy
>simple que te llevará 2 minutos en la siguiente página:
>https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf
>
>Me parece bastante simple, los invito a realizar este proyecto tan
>importante conmigo.
>
>============================
>
>Thanks to Welester G. Alvarado we are in contact with a Mr. Rodolfo
>Derbez who is affiliated with the LDS church in Mexico and works
>specifically on the Mexico Indexing Project. We have a great opportunity
>to get involved in indexing records specifically for the states of
>Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes. There is a minimum commitment of
>30 minutes per week but I think all will agree that 30 minutes per week
>is an easy commitment for such an important project. Currently there are
>over 600 members of the group and I would like to find 30 people in the
>group willing to work on indexing records for the states of Jalisco,
>Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes (well 29 since I'm committing to the
>project). If we can find 30 people then that would roughly represent 5%
>of the membership. If you would like to see what is involved then take
>the very simple and short 2 minute test drive of the indexing project at:
>
>https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf
>
>It looks pretty simple come and join me.
>
>joseph
>
>======================
>
>Joseph Puentes
>NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
>http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
>http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
>http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
>http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
>http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
>http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
>Genealogy)
>
>

Count me in! Cuenten conmigo.

R. Rodríguez

De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Joseph
Puentes
Enviado el: miércoles, 06 de abril de 2011 8:32 PM
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing

Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
México

Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de
indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y
Aguascalientes

Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo
que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil
para un proyecto tan importante.

Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a
30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los
registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes

Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los miembros

Si deseas ver de qué se trata es necesario que realices una prueba muy
simple que te llevará 2 minutos en la siguiente página:
https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf

Me parece bastante simple, los invito a realizar este proyecto tan
importante conmigo.

============================

Thanks to Welester G. Alvarado we are in contact with a Mr. Rodolfo
Derbez who is affiliated with the LDS church in Mexico and works
specifically on the Mexico Indexing Project. We have a great opportunity
to get involved in indexing records specifically for the states of
Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes. There is a minimum commitment of
30 minutes per week but I think all will agree that 30 minutes per week
is an easy commitment for such an important project. Currently there are
over 600 members of the group and I would like to find 30 people in the
group willing to work on indexing records for the states of Jalisco,
Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes (well 29 since I'm committing to the
project). If we can find 30 people then that would roughly represent 5%
of the membership. If you would like to see what is involved then take
the very simple and short 2 minute test drive of the indexing project at:

https://indexing.familysearch.org/newuser/testdrive/testdrive.jsf

It looks pretty simple come and join me.

joseph

======================

Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Thanks Joseph,

It's good to hear about Jalisco. Count me in. Now I have extra time on my hands.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Estimado Joseph Puentes cuenta conmigo.. si posible para jalisco.. ya sé como se hace ya tengo gargado el programa y estoy dada de alta
Lety Reynoso

>

Maria,

Have you looked in Nochistlan. They are so close and in earlier times, many of
the people in the surrounding areas went to Nochistlan to get married and to
register their children for baptism. Nochistlan has many Chavez and not too many
Leon's that I can recall.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

________________________________
From: Maria Leon
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 6:59:50 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Familia Leon-Chavez en Teocaltiche, Jalisco

Hello everyone,

I have been trying to find my way through my family tree. My mother's side
has been okay somewhat, however my father's side has stumped me. I can't go
past my great-grandparents. I'm doing research on the last names of Leon,
Chavez in Teocaltiche and Macias, Tisnado in Huejotitan, Jalisco.

First in Teocaltiche:
My father is the oldest of 11 children born to Jose Guadalupe Leon Chavez
(born 1916) and Ramona Macias. According to family lore, Ramona was a
servant or maid at the Leon household in Guadalajara sometime in the late
1930's (because my father was born in May, 1941) and due to a broken heart
or because the woman he wanted to marry was not allowed to, Jose Guadalupe
instead turned to Ramona and began a very tumultuous and sometimes
violent relationship with her. My father always remembered being extremely
poor and of being hungry all the time, but he said that his father's family
was somewhat well off and originated from Teocaltiche where my grandfather
was born. I don't believe Jose and Ramona married right away because my
father's stories never included his father until later in life.

I get stumped because every search that I've done, never brings back results
for the last names Leon or Chavez or Teocaltiche. The 1930 census on
FamilySearch can be broken down by location in Jalisco, however Teocaltiche
is not listed. My question to the group is, was Teocaltiche a smaller town
that fell under a different, larger town or municipality in 1930? Can
anyone help steer me to a different site to look for information? Ancestry
doesn't help much either.

Secondly in Huejotitan:
Ramona Macias (my grandmother born in 1923) was supposedly the illegitamite
child of Maria Macias and a gentleman with the last name of Tisnado. She
only had one brother who is still alive in Mexico City and is called Tio
Chico. I've never met him as my father and I are estranged. I did a search
in the 1930 census for Maria Macias in Huejotitan and I found something that
totally surprised me. The head of household, Matias Ponce, and his common
law wife, Felipa Tisnado, had the following people living with them: Maria
Macias (listed as being a widow), age 26, Jose Macias. age 23, Efren Macias,
age 16, Jesus Macias, age 14 and then the children:* Ramona Gomes, age 8*,
Francisco Loma, age 6, Wenceslao Loma, age 3, Teresa Estrada, age 2, and
Porfirio Mondragon, age 1 month. Why would there be so many kids with
different last names and with such varying ages living in the same house
with these adults? It has led me to believe that maybe the kids were street
kids, or foster kids? After this I reach a dead end.

I apologize for such a long message, but if someone has any clue as to where
I can go from here, i'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!
~Mari

I can only reply to the question re the children with multiple surnames. I
am a social worker and work with many families with the variety of ages and
surnames such as this one. The older chilidren could be younger full or
half siblings of the adults or children of Felipa from prior
relationships. The younger children could be children of the adults (or
older teens), half siblings or cousins to each other (except for the two
with Loma children, they may be full siblings). They may be "hijo
naturales" of different fathers who gave them their surnames, or "padre no
conocidos" with their mother's surnames. Sometimes they are full siblings
with different last names because the mother had split with the father
before the child was born and she was too angry at him to acknowledge him as
the father of the child, or because the father was angry at her and wouldn't
acknowledge that child. Of course, they could also be step-children of
Matias that he raised himself for some reason, orphaned family members,
godchildren, etc. The bottom line is that you can only make conjectures at
this point in your research. Good luck!

Raquel Ruiz
Massachusetts

----- Original Message -----
From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:06 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Una rama de los Hernández Gamiño en Zamora, Obispado de Michoacán

Spanish then english translation

Castellano:

Estimado compañeros:

Revisando los archivos parroquiales del solar novohispano de mi familia paterna encontré varios actas de interés. Uno es el matrimonio de Nicolás Hernández Gamiño.

Textualmente dice:

En 18 del mes de março de 1650 case infaciae. . .Nicolás Hernándes Gamiño español natural de la villa de León con Juana de Garfias hija legitima de Gonsalo Peres de Garfias y Geronima Calderón españoles. Testigos Juan Martín Barragán regidor desta villa y Diego de Ochoa Garibay y Pedro Gutierres de Robles. Padrinos Diego de Garibay y su muger doña Juana Palomino españoles. [rúbrica Miguel Martín Varragán].

Nicolás Hernández Gamiño era hijo de Domingo Hernández Gamiño y Juana Gómez de Espejo antiguo vecinos de León el Obispado de Michoacán a los principios del siglo XVII. Radica una línea que es Nicolás Hernández Gamiño a Zamora, Michoacán.

Daniel Méndez Camino

English:
Looking through the church records of the place where my paternal family called home during Colonial Mexico (Zamora, Michoacan) I found varios records of interes. For now I post the marriage of Nicolas HErnandez Gamino.

Literally it says

En 18 del mes de março de 1650 case infaciae. . .Nicolás Hernándes Gamiño español natural de la villa de León con Juana de Garfias hija legitima de Gonsalo Peres de Garfias y Geronima Calderón españoles. Testigos Juan Martín Barragán regidor desta villa y Diego de Ochoa Garibay y Pedro Gutierres de Robles. Padrinos Diego de Garibay y su muger doña Juana Palomino españoles. [rúbrica Miguel Martín Varragán].

Nicolás Hernández Gamiño was the son of Domingo Hernández Gamiño "el escribano" and Juana Gómez de Espejo early settlers of León in the Obispado de Michoacán at the beginning of the XVII century. An important line which is Nicolás Hernández Gamiño settles in Zamora, Michoacán at the middle of the XVII century.

Daniel Méndez Camino

----- Original Message -----
From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:06 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Una rama de los Hernández Gamiño en Zamora, Obispado de Michoacán

Spanish then english translation

Castellano:

Estimado compañeros:

Revisando los archivos parroquiales del solar novohispano de mi familia paterna encontré varios actas de interés. Uno es el matrimonio de Nicolás Hernández Gamiño.

Textualmente dice:

En 18 del mes de março de 1650 case infaciae. . .Nicolás Hernándes Gamiño español natural de la villa de León con Juana de Garfias hija legitima de Gonsalo Peres de Garfias y Geronima Calderón españoles. Testigos Juan Martín Barragán regidor desta villa y Diego de Ochoa Garibay y Pedro Gutierres de Robles. Padrinos Diego de Garibay y su muger doña Juana Palomino españoles. [rúbrica Miguel Martín Varragán].

Nicolás Hernández Gamiño era hijo de Domingo Hernández Gamiño y Juana Gómez de Espejo antiguo vecinos de León el Obispado de Michoacán a los principios del siglo XVII. Radica una línea que es Nicolás Hernández Gamiño a Zamora, Michoacán.

Daniel Méndez Camino

English:
Looking through the church records of the place where my paternal family called home during Colonial Mexico (Zamora, Michoacan) I found varios records of interes. For now I post the marriage of Nicolas HErnandez Gamino.

Literally it says

En 18 del mes de março de 1650 case infaciae. . .Nicolás Hernándes Gamiño español natural de la villa de León con Juana de Garfias hija legitima de Gonsalo Peres de Garfias y Geronima Calderón españoles. Testigos Juan Martín Barragán regidor desta villa y Diego de Ochoa Garibay y Pedro Gutierres de Robles. Padrinos Diego de Garibay y su muger doña Juana Palomino españoles. [rúbrica Miguel Martín Varragán].

Nicolás Hernández Gamiño was the son of Domingo Hernández Gamiño "el escribano" and Juana Gómez de Espejo early settlers of León in the Obispado de Michoacán at the beginning of the XVII century. An important line which is Nicolás Hernández Gamiño settles in Zamora, Michoacán at the middle of the XVII century.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Doesn't December 16th start with the Christmas Posadas?

Hola Emilie,

Laguenses are those of us from Lagos de Moreno. The u is silent in
this case unlike güero which is pronounced like wero using English
sounds. Therefore pronounced la-gen-se with a g like lagos.

Saludos,
Armando

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Emilie Garcia
wrote:
>
>
>
> Can someone tell me what is meant by "laguense" in the excerpt below?
>
> 57Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio. Los cuadernos de visita del laguense Mateo José de Arteaga a 17 pueblos del sur de Jalisco en 1767 [Guadalajara, Jal., Méx.] Universidad de Guadalajara : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes 1999
>
> Also, I found in a marriage for a couple in Jerez where it says "no fueron velados por ser tiempo prohibido".  What is meant by that?  Why would a certain span of time prohibit the nuptial benediction?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Halguien puede explicar que es "laguense"?  Y tambien, porque "no velados por ser tiempo prohibido".  Porque hay tiempo de prohibir bendiciones nuptiales?
>
> Gracias antemano,
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
>
>

Estimado Armando:

Nunca he dudado que Salvador era hijo de Catarina Macías Valadés. Es verdad no sé porque menciona la madre en la confirmación de 1648 como Juana Valadés pero seguro es otro Salvador quizás un pariente.

Como mencionó don Javier que dijo el hijo. Todas las ocasiones y fuentes numerosos lo compruebe.

Estas familias Macías Valadés y Villalobos trae mucho interés a cuanto su genealogía y con quienes se víncularon. Mi libro ya viene y mi plan es traer los registros del siglo XVII a la luz para todos disfrutarlo en sus estudios.

Daniel Méndez Camino

I agree with Francisco Raigosa and then a blank Miramontes, then Diego de Miramontes, but not the Francisco Poier. I think the "g" from Iglesia is coming down through the last letter making it only look like an "r" and I am not sure it is a "p" at the beginning. It would be nice to see how the scribe wrote his capital "P"s. Also, I am not sure of the "i" as the dot may be just part of the abbreviation symbol above it. It is definitely an abbreviated name, possibly he has two first names. Could it be "An" and the loop from the "n" is running backward into the "A", but then I cannot tell what the last two are possible an "e" for the second to the last. Any other guesses, Ane? This would be similar to the "An" in Ana Diaz, only the scribe was squishing things in at the end of the line of writing, so he was heavier on the pen.

mmmm, q interesante, asi q no era de sayula sino español.....

por las fechas cuadra, dice q llego a zapotlan por ahi de 1784 y se caso 5
años despues....

o sea q si fuera este tendria 19 cuando llego a zapotlan y 24 cuando se
caso... si tiene logica

Mil gracias Lety, gusto en saludarte de nuevo

El 15/04/2011 12:44, leticia reynoso escribió:

> igual y son homónimos pero por las fechas yo vería el acta donde aparecen
> los muñoz Guereno que mandé antes .. saludos Paty Lety R

> Image is not available online.

> Search collection

> About this collection

> Name:

> Pedro Antonio Vergara Sanchez

> Gender:

> Male

> Baptism/Christening Date:

> 10 Mar 1765

> Baptism/Christening Place:

> NUESTRA SENORA DE LA CONCEPCION,ROBLEDO,ALBACETE,SPAIN

> Birth Date:

> 22 Feb 1765

> Birthplace:

> Death Date:

> Name Note:

> Race:

> Father's Name:

> Juan Vergara

> Father's Birthplace:

> Father's Age:

> Mother's Name:

> Cathalina Sanchez

> Mother's Birthplace:

> Mother's Age:

> Paternal Grandfather's Name:

> Paternal Grandmother's Name:

> Maternal Grandfather's Name:

> Maternal Grandmother's name:

> Indexing Project (Batch) Number:

> J89093-1

> System Origin:

> Spain-ODM

> Source Film Number:

> 1280734

> Reference Number:

Antonio Vergara
Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

birth:

christening:

baptism:

death:

burial:

residence:

parents:

spouse:
Catarina Sanchez

child:
Maria Francisca Vergara

marriage:

record title:
Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

groom's name:
Nicolas Sanchez

bride's name:
Maria Francisca Vergara

marriage date:
17 Apr 1786

marriage place:
Teocuitatlán De Corona, Jalisco, Mexico

bride's father's name:
Antonio Vergara

bride's mother's name:
Catarina Sanchez

indexing project (batch) number:
M60389-7

system origin:
Mexico-EASy

source film number:
283027

Image is not available online.

Search collection
About this collection

Name:
Juan Antonio Vergara Sanchez

Gender:
Male

Baptism/Christening Date:
16 Oct 1768

Baptism/Christening Place:
NUESTRA SENORA DE LA CONCEPCION,ROBLEDO,ALBACETE,SPAIN

Birth Date:
22 Sep 1768

Birthplace:

Death Date:

Name Note:

Race:

Father's Name:
Juan Vergara

Father's Birthplace:

Father's Age:

Mother's Name:
Cathalina Sanchez

Mother's Birthplace:

Mother's Age:

Paternal Grandfather's Name:

Paternal Grandmother's Name:

Maternal Grandfather's Name:

Maternal Grandmother's name:

Indexing Project (Batch) Number:
J89093-1

System Origin:
Spain-ODM

Source Film Number:
1280734

Reference Number:

> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:52:26 -0500
> From: pattyharo@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] vergara en tIzapan
>
> HELLO,
>
> I hope someone can help me with my Vergara line, I had trace them up to
>
> JOSE MANUEL LUIS VERGARA SANCHEZ
> son of JUAN ANTONIO VERGARA and CATHARINA SANCHEZ
>
> born in TIZAPAN EL ALTO JURIDICCION DE SAYULA PROVINCIA DE AVALOS
>
> married on may 16, 1789 in ZAPOTLAN EL ALTO with MARIA JOSEFA MUÑOZ
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
>
>
> hola,
>
> Espero que alguien me pueda ayudar con mi linea de los Vergara, he logrado
> rastrear a los Vergara de Cd Guzman (Zapotlan el alto) hasta Tuzapan
> Jalisco, pero de ahi no paso, espero alguien me pueda ayudar, mi ultimo
> eslabon es
>
> JOSE MANUEL LUIS VERGARA SANCHEZ
> HIJO DE JUAN ANTONIO VERGARA Y CATHARINA SANCHEZ
>
> NACIO EN TIZAPAN EL ALTO JURIDICCION DE SAYULA PROVINCIA DE AVALOS
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> EL SE CASO EL 16 DE MAYO DE 1789 EN ZAPOTLAN EL ALTO CON MARIA JOSEFA MUÑOZ
>
> Mil Gracias...

Well since the grandparents aren't usually listed in the baptism records
before 1800 I'm not sure this will help but maybe the padrinos will
offer a clue. but the marriage record should definitely (not 100% sure)
offer some help:

XBAL. DE ABALOS Pedigree
Spouse: JUSTA SEGUNDA DELGADO
08 JAN 1771 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
M604652 1752 - 1790 0443782

and related to this you might find more info on this film if an Marriage
Investigation was conducted: Información matrimonial 1758-1778 - FHL
INTL Film [ 443711 ]

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ANNA JOSEFA LONGINA ABALOS DELGADO Pedigree
23 MAR 1786 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: CHRISTOBAL DE ABALOS Family
Mother: JUSTA SEGUNDA DELGADO
C602864 1768 - 1790 0443674

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JOSE FLORENTINO ABALOS DELGADO Pedigree
24 OCT 1790 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: XPTOVAL DE ABALOS Family
Mother: JUSTA SEGUNDA DELGADO
C602865 1790 - 1805 0443675

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financialfunnow@gmail.com wrote:
> I need some help in finding the grandparents of Jose Pioquinto
Abalos, Bap. 16 May 1800 in Colotlan. His parents were Christobal
Manuel Abalos and Justa Segunda Delgado. Thanks in advance,
>
> Rita Navarro
> Bakersfield, CA
>
>