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Help in Zacoalco de Torres

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Hi, Everyone,

I am tracing my ancestry back in Zacoalco de Torres through the 1800s and I got stuck on my great-great-great-grandparents. Here is what I have:

Jose Santos Reynaga b.

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Published by Steve G. Apodaca – Tue, 2013-07-23 09:35 | Permalink

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Hello, I´m researching ancestors in Zacoalco, too. Check my family file and see if you recognize any surnames.

I don´t have any Reynagas in my family tree, but I can give you some suggestions of what I do when I´m stuck in a similar situation. First, look for all the brothers and sisters of Maria Concepcion Reynaga. Don´t just assume that the names of the parents are spelled or written correctly on your direct ancestor´s baptism. Check what it says on the baptisms of their brothers and sisters. Next, check for the marriages and matrimonial informations for your ancestor Maria Concepcion Reynaga, and once again, for the marriages of her brothers and sisters. Often times, they mention the names of the parents, and if they were alive or dead at that time. Also, sometimes they provide the place of origin. With that you might get an approximate date of death of your ancestors Jose Santos Reynaga and Cristina Frias and you can look for their death certificates. Death certificates often have lots of information, too. Another suggestion in your case. On the years you are looking for, there was already a registro civil in Zacoalco, so check on both the church and the civil registry for all events for all the people I mentioned.

After you do all this, I´m sure you´ll get plenty of clues to break your brickwall. If all fails, check the parish records nearby: Acatlan de juarez, barranca de Santa Clara, Atotonilco el Bajo, etc.

Saludos,

Steve in NC

FW: 2013 Conference flyer

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Subject: RE: 2013 Conference flyer

Here is the link to the NR site page for the conference:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/21475

Joseph

Joseph Puentes

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Published by Laura Gonzalez – Sun, 2013-07-21 19:46 | Permalink

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Ah, I see the email address has been changed. The previous flyer had a different email address, of which the owner hasn't responded to conference inquiries.

Thanks for the update.

Laura Gonzalez

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Hi Laura I did respond to inquiry few das ago, if you did not received my e-mail please contact me directly I am the treasurer for Nueva Galicia annaa_smith@yahoo.com Thank you
Anna

________________________________
From: "mayangrl@sonic.net"
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 7:46 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] NEW email address for Conference!

Ah, I see the email address has been changed.  The previous flyer had a different email address, of which the owner hasn't responded to conference inquiries.

Thanks for the update.

Laura Gonzalez

Huizar, Flores and Salamanca

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Hi, My name is Rich and I am trying to research my heritage. I have been
able to compile some data, but have come to a stop.

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Published by rich – Mon, 2013-07-22 10:30 | Permalink

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I would like thank Rosalinda for all the information she was able to give
us. Very helpful

Thanks Rich and Vicki

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3. Antonia de Covarrubias (rruizgenealogy@ix.netcom.com)
4. Re: Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma. (Patricia Corbera)
5. Re: Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma. (Patricia Corbera)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 21:17:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: mayangrl@sonic.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Antonia de Covarrubias
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How come it has her listed as Perez? Where did Covarrubias come from?

Laura Gonzalez

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 02:09:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: rruizgenealogy@ix.netcom.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Huizar, Flores and Salamanca
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Hi Rich,
I did a quick search and records lookup, and I found the following
informacion matrimonial, which provided the names of Luis? parents:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18454-10075-96?cc=1874591&wc…
-ZJ5:n1080371486
Luis, son of Eduardo Huizar and Bibiana Avalos married to Francisca,
daughter of Encarnacion Salamanca and Juana Valenzuela

I found three children whose names were indexed at familysearch.org:

? Name Ygnacio Huizar Salamanca
? Gender Male
? Christening Date 01 Mar 1884
? Christening Place San Luis Obispo, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
? Father's Name Luis Huizar
? Mother's Name Francisca Salamanca
? Indexing Project (Batch) Number I07011-0
? System Origin Mexico-EASy
? GS Film number 443690
? Reference ID v 40 p 20

? Name Marcos Huizar
? Gender Male
? Christening Date 28 Apr 1890
? Christening Place Colotl?n, Jalisco, Mexico
? Father's Name Luiz Huizar
? Mother's Name Francisca Salamanca
? Indexing Project (Batch) NumberI07010-9
? System Origin Mexico-EASy
? GS Film number 443691
? Reference ID385

? Name Domitila Huizar
? Gender Female
? Christening Date 15 Jun 1879
? Christening Place San Luis Obispo, Colotl?n, Jalisco, Mexico
? Father's Name Luis Huizar
? Mother's Name Franca. Salamanca
? Indexing Project (Batch) Number I07010-5
? System Origin Mexico-EASy
? GS Film number 443688
? Reference ID v 37 p 216

Here is the baptism record of Jose Luis Gonzaga Huisar:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18452-25389-54?cc=1874591&wc…
-ZF1:n1232766274

? Name Jose Luis Gonzaga Huizar Avalos
? Gender Male
? Christening Date 24 Jun 1844
? Christening Place SAN LUIS,COLOTLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
? Father's Name Eduardo Huizar
? Mother's Name Bibiana De Avalos
? Maternal Grandfather's Name Cristobal De Avalos
? Maternal Grandmother's Name Pioquinta Rivera
? Indexing Project (Batch) Number C60464-1
? System Origin Mexico-ODM
? GS Film number 443680

The paternal grandparents are noted as Matias Huisar and Remigia Palafox.

Here?s a link to Diego Huizar?s baptism record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18452-23022-78?cc=1874591&wc…
-ZF1:n1232766274

In this record, the parents are Eduardo Huizar and Bibiana Rivera. His
paternal grandparents are Matias Huizar and Remigia Palafox; the maternal
grandmother is Pioquinta Rivera (no maternal grandfather mentioned).

You should be able to use familysearch.org to search further back, and use
the records at the site to trace more ancestors. My family comes from the
same area, but I don?t see a connection with you, yet. Good luck, and I hope
this helps.

Rosalinda

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 02:11:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: rruizgenealogy@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Antonia de Covarrubias
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Laura: I emailed an answer to this question.

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:26:25 -0700
From: Patricia Corbera
To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
Cc: Juan Alvarez
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma.
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Jose Luis Felix,

Thank you for replying to my posting...it appears that you and my husband
are related, sharing common ancestors of Bernardino de Islas y Mariana de
Sandoval.

I will be forwarding Tino's lines from your direct line ancestor
Bernandina's two sisters...both being Tino's direct lines...

Think you so much for sharing this wonderful information...

To be continued...
Pat Silva Corbera
Florentino L Corbera (aka Tino)

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 20, 2013, at 2:56 PM, jose luis felix
wrote:

> Pat:The family line is the same,only the names have some variations
like(Petrona,Petra,Petronila) married with Diego Delgadillo.Is the same
person.
> This is the information I have of Bernardina de Islas.
> Acta de Bautismo Transcrita de Bernardina de Islas:En veinte i nueve de
mayo de seissientos sinquenta a?os bautice y puso los santos olios a
Bernardina ija de Bernardino de Islas Mariana de Sandobal,fueron padrinos
,Diego Delgadillo i Petra de Islas Testigos,besinos de este partido de
Nochistlan firma Antonio de LLamas.
> Solicitud de Matrimonio de Juan de Dios Felix y Bernardina de Islas:Juan
de Dios Felis,soltero,nacido en la ciudad de Zacatecas,y Asistente a mas de
10 a?os en la jurisdiccion de Jerez,hijo legitimo de Nicolas Felis,difunto y
de Francisca de Peralta.Pretende contraer matrimonio eclesiastico en Jerez
con Bernardina de Islas,feligres y vecina del pueblo de Nochistlan.
Firmo.Testigos: 1.- Pedro Carrillo,vecino de la Jurisdiccion.Declaro conocer
al pretenso desde muy ni?o por ser su cu?ado,y le ha criado en su casa y
teniendole en su compa?ia. Firmo como Pedro Carrillo Davila. 2.-Gaspar de
los Reyes,de 40 a?os de edad .Firmo.Casados en Nochistlan,Zac.Informacion
matrimonial,numero 171.Jerez,Zac. 16 de Enero de 1674.fojas:3-4 vuelta.
>
> Acta de Matrimonio trancripta de Juan de Dios Felix y Bernardina de
> Yslas: En el pueblo de Nochistlan en 5 de Febrero de 1674 .No habiendo
> resultado impedimento????????..en esta Parroquia en tres dias festivos
> y de Bernardina de Ysla espa?ola moca doncella de esta feligrecia que
> en primera y licencia que presento el primero Espa?ol vecino de la
> Villa de Jerez hijo legitimo de Nicolas Felis difunto y de Francisca
> de Peralta ante mi el pretenso.Despachado por el Presbitero Juan de
> Quijas Escalante cura Benssado Ysidro Ya?ez cura de la Villa de Jerez
> Pussa en otra villa en veinte y nueve del mes pasado de Enero del
> presente a?o ,quedaron los autos matrimoniales de mi cargo ,case
> infacie y vele por palabra de Dios de presente que hace en verdadero
> matrimonio a Juan de Dios Felis vecino de la villa de Jerez Espa?ol
> hijo legitimo de Nicolas Felis difunto y de Francisca de Peralta
> Espa?oles Vesina de esa villa. Con Bernardina de Ysla Espa?ola moca
> Doncella vecina de esta feligrec
ia hija legitima de Bernardino de Ysla y de Mariana de Sandobal Espa?oles
de esta feligrecia .Fueron Padrinos:Bernardo Gonsalez y Cristina Vasquez
Espa?oles y vecinos de esta feligrecia.Testigos:Geronimo Rojas,Ysac de Luna
y Francisco Ruvalcaba,Lucas de Moscoso Sandobal .Todos Espa?oles vecinos de
este Partido y de mas muchas personas presents de que oficie y firme.
> I have copy of this documents y you have interest. Bernardina de Islas and
Juan de Dios Felix are my 8th GGparents.
> Jose Luis Felix
> Perris,CA.
>
>> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:55:53 +0000
>> From: PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> CC: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jose Luis Felix, Juan Alvarez and list members,
>>
>> My Spanish reading skills are very limited mostly to the vital records
that I have located online and from various member sharing/postings...
>>
>> My husband (Florentino L Corbera aka Tino)is related to Francisco
Gonzalez Martinez y Magdalena de la Besares (this couple is Tino's 9th
GGparents). They the parents of:
>>
>> Bernardino Gonzales de Isla, married on 21 Apr 1631 in Nochistlan, Zac.
to (Mariana Moscoso y Sandoval, daughter of Juan Moscoso y Sandoval "el
Viejo," y Catalina Cortes)... Bernardino and Mariana are Tino's ..they the
parents of:
>>
>> 1. Petrona de Isla married Diego Delgadillo (I have 13 children in
>> file for this couple)
>>
>> 2. Mariana Sandobal Isla married 12 Oct 1661 to (Nicolas Estrada Mexia,
son of Lorenso Mexia y Isabel Ines/Ynes Estrada).( I only have two children
in file for this couple).
>>
>> 3. Bernardina Sandobal Isla - bapt 29 May 1651 Nochistlan. I do not have
marriage/spousal information on Bernardina...
>>
>> Petrona and Mariana are both maternal line ancestors descending to Tino's
mother Maria Refugio Perez...
>>
>> Does the above appear to be the same family that is mentioned in Jose
Luis Felix' posting ? If so, sharing of information will connect us to our
common ancestors...Francisco Gonzalez Martinez and Magdalena de la
Besares...
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Pat Silva Corbera
>> Tracy California
>>
>> p.s. Is Vezzari the same as Besares due to a spelling variations ?
>> Jose Luis Felix - have you been FamilyFinder Autosomal tested ?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jose luis felix"
>> To: "Juan Alvarez"
>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:40:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma.
>>
>> Disculpen Jorge Luis y Jaime:Yo tambien tengo una confucion que me
gustaria aclarar,yo desiendo de Bernardino De Islas nacido en 1607 en
Nochistlan,Zacatecas,y murio en 05 enero 1680,hijo de Francisco Gonzalez
Martinez y de Maria Magdalena de la Vezzari ,en tonces el apellido de Islas
de donde lo adopta ?,de su tia Maria de Islas?Yo desciendo de Juan de Dios
Felix y de Bernardina de Islas,hija de Bernardino de Islas y de Mariana de
Sandoval Cortes,hija de Julio Moscoso y Sandoval y de Cathalina Cortez.Bueno
esta seria otra controversia que me gustaria aclarar con ustedes.
>> Jose Luis Felix.
>> Perris California.
>>
>>> From: georgio_2386@hotmail.com
>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:53:10 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma.
>>>
>>> Hola Jaime, efectivamente al igual que t?, creo que hay relaci?n entre
Mar?a de Islas, la mujer de Crist?bal Lozano y Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma.
>>> Pero hay algo que no me concuerda. En algunas ocasiones he le?do que
dicen que Mar?a de Islas, la mujer de Crist?bal Lozano, es hija de Francisco
Gonz?lez Mart?nez y de Magdalena de Lavezzares. Y la dispensa que yo
encontr? menciona que Magdalena de Lavezzares tuvo una hermana llamada Mar?a
de Islas, pero fue la mujer de Andr?s Mart?n Camacho. Lo que no puedo
comprender son los rangos en las fechas.
>>> ?Entonces Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma es t?a de Mar?a de Islas, mujer de
Crist?bal Lozano? Las fechas que tengo me hacen ubicarlas como hermanas m?s
bien, pero dos hermanas con el mismo nombre tampoco me concuerda.
>>> Esta es la anotaci?n que hice en mis notas: "... sabe que son bisnietos
de dos hermanas que lo fueron do?a Mar?a de Islas y do?a Magdalena de
Lavezzares, quien tuvo por hijo a Bernardino de Islas, y Bernardino de Islas
a Nicol?s de Dios Islas, y Nicol?s de Dios Islas tuvo por hija a Mar?a
Catarina de Islas; y do?a Mar?a de Islas tuvo por hija a Jacinta Mart?nez, y
Jacinta Mart?nez tuvo por hijo a Jacinto D?az, y Jacinto D?az tuvo por hijo
a Jos? D?az de Le?n, pretenso, con que as? se hallan cuarto con cuarto grado
en consanguinidad..." Declaraci?n de Mateo Gonz?lez de Rubalcava, de 88 a?os
de edad, en la dispensa matrimonial solicitada en Nochistl?n el 30 de
noviembre de 1709, para el matrimonio que pretenden Jos? D?az de Le?n y
Catarina de Islas.
>>>
>>> Jorge Luis Ram?rez G?mez.
>>>
>>> Tepatitl?n de Morelos, Jalisco, M?xico.
>>>

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You are so welcome, Rich and Vicki. It turns out that Rich is my cousin through one of his ancestral lines!

Rosalinda

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Huizar, Flores and Salamanca
Submitted by rich on Mon, 2013-07-22 10:30.

I would like thank Rosalinda for all the information she was able to give
us. Very helpful

Thanks Rich and Vicki

Published by rosa9972 – Sun, 2013-07-21 02:09 | Permalink

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Hi Rich,
I did a quick search and records lookup, and I found the following informacion matrimonial, which provided the names of Luis’ parents:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18454-10075-96?cc=1874591&wc…
Luis, son of Eduardo Huizar and Bibiana Avalos married to Francisca, daughter of Encarnacion Salamanca and Juana Valenzuela

I found three children whose names were indexed at familysearch.org:

• Name Ygnacio Huizar Salamanca
• Gender Male
• Christening Date 01 Mar 1884
• Christening Place San Luis Obispo, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
• Father's Name Luis Huizar
• Mother's Name Francisca Salamanca
• Indexing Project (Batch) Number I07011-0
• System Origin Mexico-EASy
• GS Film number 443690
• Reference ID v 40 p 20

• Name Marcos Huizar
• Gender Male
• Christening Date 28 Apr 1890
• Christening Place Colotlán, Jalisco, Mexico
• Father's Name Luiz Huizar
• Mother's Name Francisca Salamanca
• Indexing Project (Batch) NumberI07010-9
• System Origin Mexico-EASy
• GS Film number 443691
• Reference ID385

• Name Domitila Huizar
• Gender Female
• Christening Date 15 Jun 1879
• Christening Place San Luis Obispo, Colotlán, Jalisco, Mexico
• Father's Name Luis Huizar
• Mother's Name Franca. Salamanca
• Indexing Project (Batch) Number I07010-5
• System Origin Mexico-EASy
• GS Film number 443688
• Reference ID v 37 p 216

Here is the baptism record of Jose Luis Gonzaga Huisar: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18452-25389-54?cc=1874591&wc…

• Name Jose Luis Gonzaga Huizar Avalos
• Gender Male
• Christening Date 24 Jun 1844
• Christening Place SAN LUIS,COLOTLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
• Father's Name Eduardo Huizar
• Mother's Name Bibiana De Avalos
• Maternal Grandfather's Name Cristobal De Avalos
• Maternal Grandmother's Name Pioquinta Rivera
• Indexing Project (Batch) Number C60464-1
• System Origin Mexico-ODM
• GS Film number 443680

The paternal grandparents are noted as Matias Huisar and Remigia Palafox.

Here’s a link to Diego Huizar’s baptism record: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18452-23022-78?cc=1874591&wc…

In this record, the parents are Eduardo Huizar and Bibiana Rivera. His paternal grandparents are Matias Huizar and Remigia Palafox; the maternal grandmother is Pioquinta Rivera (no maternal grandfather mentioned).

You should be able to use familysearch.org to search further back, and use the records at the site to trace more ancestors. My family comes from the same area, but I don’t see a connection with you, yet. Good luck, and I hope this helps.

Rosalinda

Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society Conference in Sacto

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The conference is in September, and I plan on going (assuming someone checks their email soon!). I was wondering if anyone else from here will be there.

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Published by rosa9972 – Sun, 2013-07-21 20:13 | Permalink

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I usually bring my laptop with my genealogy, so I can compare notes with others. I also bring a small amount of supplies-- notebooks, post-its, etc. Since I live in So Cal, I brought some genealogy books with me, but I won't this time, as I'll have to fly there.

You may want to create some business cards with your contact information to connect with others.

Published by oldcar53 – Sat, 2013-07-20 23:00 | Permalink

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Laura,

I will be there, where do you live? It's a 2 hour drive for me as well but I will be going up the night before the conference. There will be a meet and greet dinner for anyone who wants to meetup the night before. The place and time still to be determined.

Alicia

________________________________
From: "mayangrl@sonic.net"
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:38 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society Conference in Sacto

The conference is in September, and I plan on going (assuming someone checks their email soon!).  I was wondering if anyone else from here will be there. Since it starts so early, I'm thinking of going over on Friday night and staying at a hotel (Sacto is a two hour drive for me).

Laura

Comment

Alicia,

I'm in Santa Rosa, Sonoma County. You're in San Jose, right? Please keep me updated on a place to stay, if a bunch of people are going up on Friday. I'm looking forward to this! I sent an email to the address on the flyer, but I haven't heard back yet. ?

Laura Gonzalez

Surnames/Apellidos

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I he encontrado una record bautismo que enumera el padre como Ramón Becerra, y la los abuelos paternos como Alejandro Becerra y la Aurelia Garcia.

Need help reading document

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I can't read much of this, I'd appreciate some help.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15256-5039-5?cc=1804458&wc=M…

It's the next to last entry on the right hand side.

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Published by Laura Gonzalez – Thu, 2013-07-18 18:49 | Permalink

Comment

Thanks everyone. I'm disappointed that the priest didn't say how old the boy was, usually they write xx dias de nacido. Also, some of these priests have horrible writing, plus the wear and tear of the years.

Laura Gonzalez

Published by Bill Figueroa – Thu, 2013-07-18 11:15 | Permalink

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Laura,

This baptismal record reads as follows:

Al margen: "Christoval Manuel Español de este Pueblo Padrinos = Juan de Castañeda y Agustina Maria de Saldivar"

"En el año del Señor de mil setecientos y nuebe en el Pueblo de Taltenango baptize y puse los Santos Oleos a Christoval Manuel hijo de Hernando de Castañeda y de Antonia Perez españoles y vecinos desta Jurisdicion Padrinos Juan de Castañeda y Agustina María de Saldivar [a quienes] les adverti la cognacion espiritual y obligacion de enseñarle la doctrina Christiana y para que conste lo firme." [f] "Manuel de Messa Messa**"

** Este es un error. La firma debería decir Manuel de Messa y Cervantes, como en las partidas anteriores.

You have correctly stated the date, 1 Jan 1709.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Rgds,

BILL FIGUEROA

----- Original Message -----
From: mayangrl@sonic.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:51 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Need help reading document

I can't read much of this, I'd appreciate some help.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15256-5039-5?cc=1804458&wc=M…

It's the next to last entry on the right hand side.

Here's what I have:

Baptism
Name: Christoval Manuel Castañeda
Date: 1 Jan 1709
Father: Hernando de Castañeda
Mother: Antonia Perez

Thank you!
Laura Gonzalez

Published by MickeyGarcia – Thu, 2013-07-18 09:45 | Permalink

Comment

Hi Laura
has anyone helped you?
I see what you have is correct. I also see the Padrinos: Juan de
Castañeda and Agustinna de Saldivar.
I also see where it states that Hernando & Antonia are 'vecinos de Tlat.
un mes". So they were new to the area.

MG

In a message dated 7/18/2013 2:48:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
mayangrl@sonic.net writes:

I can't read much of this, I'd appreciate some help.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15256-5039-5?cc=1804458&wc=M…
WP:972527880

It's the next to last entry on the right hand side.

Here's what I have:

Baptism
Name: Christoval Manuel Castañeda
Date: 1 Jan 1709
Father: Hernando de Castañeda
Mother: Antonia Perez

Thank you!
Laura Gonzalez

how does the couple in this marriage dispensation relate to each other

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15237-5588-25?cc=1804458&wc=…

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Hello Katy,
I think there were two issues: the first, not requiring a dispensation, is that this couple had been living together for a year (Image 499); the primary issue is that (Image 502) the groom is the son of Francisco de la Torre and Maria Castillo AKA Maria la Grande. As an infant he was adopted and raised by Isabel de la Torre (sister of Francisco). However another brother, not named, is the father of Magdalena de la Torre, who is the mother of the bride.

I like charts:

Un-named de la Torre------Brothers--------Francisco de la Torre
Magdalena de la Torre-------1st Cousins---Agustin Castillo
Antonia Robles
(Bride)
Hope this is helpful!
Deedra Corona

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Katy, Some of these dispensations are better than a soap opera.

On Image 505 the groom states that he was raised and treated as a son by Isabel de la Torre. However, the truth is that he is actually the son of an Indio from Santa Maria named: Alonzo. Therefore he has no blood relationship to Antonia Robles.

Deedra Corona

Published by katy_brecht_quesada – Wed, 2013-07-17 17:26 | Permalink

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whoa,this marriage dispensation is full drama: questionable paternity, having the authorities come after them etc.

i wonder if this couple was able to get married afterwords, and if they had any children.

anyways magdalena's father is juan de la torre.

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They seem to be first cousins once removed: the groom was first cousin of the mother of the bride.

Antonia Robles was the daughter of Juan de Robles & Magdalena de la Torre.
Magdalena de Torres is the daughter of a brother of Francisco de la Torre.
Francisco de la Torre is the father of the groom, Agustín de Castillo.

So, Agustín del Castillo (groom) and Magdalena de Torres (mother of the bride) share paternal grandparents and are first cousins.

They eloped and the authorities were trying to arrest them.

Victoriano Navarro

Research Digest, Vol 90, Issue 12

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Hola Edgar, en mis registros encuentro que Juan Hernández Gamiño el que casó con Ana Domínguez de los Inojos cerca de 1660 era hijo de Domingo Hernández Gamiño que casó cerca de 1627 con Juana

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Published by GARY – Wed, 2013-07-17 07:24 | Permalink

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Edgar Olguin Diaz
hola peredo
un cordial saludo

estube checando la informacion que me publicastes
lo estube checanco en el familysearch en las microfilm
y solo encontre el matrimonio de blas hernandez y luisa domingues
en donde solo se mencionan los padres de luisa en aguascalientes 1654.

Estube viendo las microfilm de leon guanajuato el cual no encontre la defunciones de domingo hernandez y la de juana concepcion gomez, en cuanto al matrimonio de cristobal hernandez y maria ruiz velazco en 1653 no tube exito.

la pregunta
tienes algun registro de cualquier tipo donde puedo comprobar la linea de juan hernandez con domingo hernandez gamiño su padre?
ya se que me pases el enlace o me orientes como buscarlo
te lo agradeceria mucho

mil gracias por mandarme la informacion
que tengas un buen dia
saludos
bye

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Hola Edgar,

Yo soy descendiente de tres hijos de Domingo Hernández Gamiño y de Juana
Gómez de Espejo. Recomiendo mucho que intentes conseguir *Retoños de España
en la Nueva Galicia*. Ahí encontrarás referencias a todas las fuentes que
existen sobre esta familia.

Saludos,
Armando

2013/7/17

> Edgar Olguin Diaz
> hola peredo
> un cordial saludo
>
> estube checando la informacion que me publicastes
> lo estube checanco en el familysearch en las microfilm
> y solo encontre el matrimonio de blas hernandez y luisa domingues
> en donde solo se mencionan los padres de luisa en aguascalientes 1654.
>
> Estube viendo las microfilm de leon guanajuato el cual no encontre la
> defunciones de domingo hernandez y la de juana concepcion gomez, en cuanto
> al matrimonio de cristobal hernandez y maria ruiz velazco en 1653 no tube
> exito.
>
> la pregunta tienes algun registro de cualquier tipo donde puedo comprobar
> la linea de juan hernandez con domingo hernandez gamiño su padre?
> ya se que me pases el enlace o me orientes como buscarlo
> te lo agradeceria mucho
>
> mil gracias por mandarme la informacion
> que tengas un buen dia saludos
> bye

Need help on several names: Espejo, Gomez, Biebiesca, Rubio, Cortes, Maciel, de Leon, de Anda, etc...

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Hi to all,

I've come to the end of several lines and need help going back further. Any leads/help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Info needed on persons in Parentheses ""

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Published by longsjourney – Sun, 2012-07-08 12:15 | Permalink

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hi.
 I do have Juan Asencio Ponze de Leon and Geronima Leivana Maciel with 2 children born Anna born1740 and Pedro born1742.
I also have Alvaro Maciel, Geronimas Father, and Ysabel Orosco his wife with 5 children but they are all aproximate dob. Juan abt 1720, Geronima abt 1721, Anna Leivana Maciel abt 1730, Maria abt 1735 and Luisa abt 1740. I do not have any going back further on these lines.
My maternal line was Alvarez del Castillo and Gutierrez from Chilchota, Michoacan so these people married into my lines. I do have my file posted on.
 
Rootsweb.com, my file name is Mexico
Linda in B.C.

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Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 12:39 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Need help on several names: Espejo, Gomez, Biebiesca, Rubio, Cortes, Maciel, de Leon, de Anda, etc...

Hi to all,

I've come to the end of several lines and need help going back further. Any leads/help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Info needed on persons in Parentheses ""

"Diego Estrada" m. Antonia Gomez, 20 Oct 1692 in Tepatitilan de Morelos, Jalsico

"Juan Hernández y Gamiño" b.1576 Extremadura, Spain, m. "Anna Velasquez" circa 1599 Extremadura, Spain

"Miguel Domínguez de Espejo" m. "Isabel Gómez Maldonado" circa 1599

"Diego de Velasco" m. "Francisca de Biebiesca" circa 1600

Pedro Ruiz de Haro y Velasco b. 2 Apr 1599 Asunción Sagrario Metropolitano, Centro, Distrito Federal, Mexico, m. "Ana Núñez Bojórquez"
"Nicolas Rubio" b. circa 1645, m. Dona Catalina de Liebano b. circa 1652, d. 2 Dec 1689 Ayo el Chico

"Diego Antonio Cortes de Arteaga" d. 17 Oct 1701 Tepatitilan de Morelos, Jalsico,
m. "Magarita Gomez de Espejo" in 1669 Ayo el Chico, Nueva Galicia, Mexico

"Juan Asewncio de Leon" b. 1603 Tangancícuaro, Michoacán, Mexico, m. Dona Geronima de Liebana in Michoacan, Mexico

"Alvaro Maciel" m. Isabel de Orosco circa 1600

"Joseph De Puga" m. "Yfigina Quintero" in 10 Feb 1728 Tepatitilan de Morelos, Jalsico

"Luis Antonio Franco" m. "Anna Maria Velasquez" circa 1750

"Juan Manuel Placencia" m. "Dolores Baldivia" circa 1790~1795

"Juan Jose Ynigues" m. Rosalia (Last Name?) circa 1790~1795

"Juan Jose Ramires" m. "Maria de la Cruz Perez" circa 1790~1795

"Francisco de Anda" m. Juana De Sebedra b. 21 Jan 1698 SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS, LAGOS DE MORENO, JALISCO, MEXICO

"Antonio De Saiabedra" m. "Juana De La Cruz" circa 1690~1695

Joseph Ygnacio de Anda b. 24 Feb 1726 Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico, m. "Ana Maria De Aguilera" circa. 1750

"Diego Jose Dias" m. "Maria Felipa Delgadillo" circa. 1750

"Juan Delgadillo" m. "Mariana Gonzales" circa 1830

"Ygnasio Beserra" m. "Refugio Chavez" circa 1830

"Miguel Ramos" b. 1870?, m. "Petra Guerra" b. 1879?

Help on any of these would be great. Also, if any of these names sound familiar within your tree please feel free to ask for info on their children. Some of which I have.

JoeM

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Carlos Peredo
Hello Joe

I´m afraid I don´t have the information you are requesting but instead I´m surprised you have one date that nobody else seem to have, I mean de bautism date of Pedro Ruíz de Haro y Velasco. You see, he is my ancestor and so far I had found some works who state that he was born in Spain around 1590 and no parents. So my big question is: Do you have his parents ? and more importantly: Would you please share those names ?

I thank you in advance and off course I will be more than pleased if there is any way I can help you with some other names like Aceves, González de Hermosillo, Hernández Gamiño and Peredo

Gabay or Gabai: origin of surname

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Has anyone been able to find from which side of the family did Ana Francisca and Maria Gabay got their surname? I have tried to find that surname among Spanish surnames with little success. However, I have found that Gabay or Gabai is a Jewish surname. Further I learned that Gabay is a person that performs duties similar to an usher. Here is a description:

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Published by Dominguezm – Sun, 2013-07-14 08:55 | Permalink

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In my family line, unposted so far, I have the name Garibaldi/Garibaldo and found it misspelled as Gabay. Maybe you are having the same issue. Try using Garibaldo/Garibaldi.

Published by Armando – Mon, 2013-07-15 14:26 | Permalink

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Gabai/Gabay/Gabady/Gabadi is a surname that is shared by all of us that descend from Martín Navarro de Gabay and Petronila Moctezuma. They were the parents of Francisca Ana de Gabay and María Gabay. Francisca married Lope Ruíz de Esparza y Eguinoa. María married Pedro Fernández de Váulus. Many of us here at NR descend from Martín Navarro de Gabay.

This thread has always dealt with that family and it has no relation to the surname Garibaldo/Garibaldi. They are completely different lineages. There is even the chance that your ancestors are also Gabay and you mistook that it should be Garibaldo/Garibaldi.

Armando

Published by mendezdetorres – Mon, 2008-09-01 21:30 | Permalink

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Gabay is an interesting subject, I think Gabay is a city in Spain, notably in Castilla. I dont think Gabay the spaniard family was jewish they were among the nobility of spain who would have never married a jew or non-catholic and the arabs. By luck it is a same word in Yiddish, just like english and spanish have alot of word spelled the same but mean totally different things. Francisca Gabay recieved it from her Father, Martín Navarro de Gabay a hijosdalgo. The surname is compouned forming NAVARRO DE GABAY, try searching NAVARRO. It looks like they didnt have many kids to our knowledge. -Daniel
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Hello....
Somebody know, If are there some relation between the last names GABADY
with GABAY?
Cristobal Villalobos

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Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gabay or Gabai: origin of surname

Gabay is an interesting subject, I think Gabay is a city in Spain, notably
in Castilla. I dont think Gabay the spaniard family was jewish they were
among the nobility of spain who would have never married a jew or
non-catholic and the arabs. By luck it is a same word in Yiddish, just like
english and spanish have alot of word spelled the same but mean totally
different things. Francisca Gabay recieved it from her Father, Martín
Navarro de Gabay a hijosdalgo. The surname is compouned forming NAVARRO DE
GABAY, try searching NAVARRO. It looks like they didnt have many kids to our
knowledge. -Daniel
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Gabadi is a proper Euskara (Basque) surname. The meaning of the name is unknown, but, as has already been mentioned, it is believed to indicate an origin in the Basque village of Gabat, in present-day Southern France. Gabay is just a latinization (Spanish) of the original Euskara name. You can find several "famous" Basque persons with the name Gabadi.
In Euskara, gabai means "sea gull," but I don't know if it is ever used as a surname.
Many Euskara names have become standard Spanish names, like Elizalde, for example. Lisardi is another Basque name that you find a lot in Aguascalientes that is frequently misspelt.

Scott Stockwell

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Gabat/Gabadi is a small village about 25 miles due East of Bayone, is
Southern France. Very close to the border with Spain.

John Gonzalez

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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gabay or Gabai: origin of surname

Gabay is an interesting subject, I think Gabay is a city in Spain, notably
in Castilla.

Iron Curtain

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I've run into an Iron Curtain with my 4th GGF Diego Martin Flores. He was born probably abt 1730 and died 27 Jul 1808 in Colotlan. He married my 4th GGM Gertrudis Leano.

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Published by katy_brecht_quesada – Fri, 2013-01-18 20:38 | Permalink

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i'm not sure what to do either but the reason why felipa has been referred with the 'de mier' surname is because her biological father is cristobal de mier(the husband of her aunt margarita enriquez). i found a doucmented account of their affair
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18419-4894-37?cc=1874591&wc=…

edit:maybe you could start searching through marriage dispensations to see if you can find more clues.

Early Colotlan Baptism records?

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Where should I look for Colotlan Birth/Baptism records prior to 1700?
I'm looking for Francisco Valensuela born abt 1690.

Thank you in advance,
Roy

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Published by katy_brecht_quesada – Thu, 2013-07-11 17:44 | Permalink

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nope family search doesn't have any records from colotlan prior to 1718 sorry. you could try search tlaltenango records, but can't guarentee you'll find francisco valezuela there or not.

Published by katy_brecht_quesada – Thu, 2013-07-11 17:44 | Permalink

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nope family search doesn't have any records from colotlan prior to 1718 sorry. you could try search tlaltenango records, but can't guarentee you'll find francisco valezuela there or not.

Published by Rose Hardy – Thu, 2013-07-11 16:38 | Permalink

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Roy

I have been researching my Gonzales' in the early 1700 and late 1600's in Tlaltenango records. Sorry to say, but I noticed the LDS church only has the second book on film for Colotlan baptisms. Try Tlaltenango. I have been seeing people from Colotlan getting married and having children baptized there. I have not really looked at Jerez....but that might another avenue as well. I just recently started looking at Colotlan's earliest records. My one Gonzales/Munoz line came from the area of Coculiten and Huejucar....they settled in Aguascalientes and they've been a real pain to find.

Rose

Pedro Arizmendi Gogorran of San Luis Potosi

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I am looking for a copy of Sasha Della Schmidt Honig's paper on Pedro Gogorran called "Pedro de Arizmendi Gogorrón: Frontier Magnate of Northern New Spain." a Unpublished Manuscript

Thanks
Rose

be aware of some names in the IGIs

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I've found a few errors in the names of some IGIs.

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Published by romero89 – Tue, 2013-07-09 15:44 | Permalink

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Jose Carlos, can you give us an example. De la Torre is one of my family names, not a location.

Linda

Researching: Romero, Romero y Chavez, Alderete, de la Torre, Gomez Hurtado de Mendoza, Gutierrez, Padilla, Pena, Camarena

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Maria De La Torre is a ranch in Colotlan, Jalisco.

here's one IGI of many examples:

name: Ma. De La Torre Valenzuela Rl. gender: Female baptism/christening date: 11 May 1776 baptism/christening place: SAN LUIS, COLOTLAN, JALISCO, MEXICO father's name: Marcos Valenzuela mother's name: Rita Del Rl. indexing project (batch) number: C60286-4 system origin: Mexico-ODM source film number: 443674

The actual name on the baptism record is: Maria Antonia Valenzuela

Jose Carlos de Leon

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Primo,
Marcos Nicolas Valenzuela is my 4th Great Grandfather.
My 4th GGmother was his second wife Maria Estafana Ortiz - Married 07Jan 1802.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18456-6571-41?cc=1874591&wc=…

I just returned from a two week European trip...will share some photos in few more days.

Saludos,
Roy

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: josecarlos1944@hotmail.com
> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 04:37:32 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] beware of some IGIs names
>
> Maria De La Torre is a ranch in Colotlan, Jalisco.
>
>
> here's one IGI of many examples:
>
> name: Ma. De La Torre Valenzuela Rl. gender: Female baptism/christening date: 11 May 1776 baptism/christening place: SAN LUIS, COLOTLAN, JALISCO, MEXICO father's name: Marcos Valenzuela mother's name: Rita Del Rl. indexing project (batch) number: C60286-4 system origin: Mexico-ODM source film number: 443674
>
> The actual name on the baptism record is: Maria Antonia Valenzuela
>
>
>
> Jose Carlos de Leon

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Awesome! It is great when an event like this one occurs. It makes the hours
spent on research so rewarding.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Roy
Rodriguez
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:58 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] beware of some IGIs names

Primo,
Marcos Nicolas Valenzuela is my 4th Great Grandfather.
My 4th GGmother was his second wife Maria Estafana Ortiz - Married 07Jan
1802.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18456-6571-41?cc=1874591&wc=…
861

I just returned from a two week European trip...will share some photos in
few more days.

Saludos,
Roy

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: josecarlos1944@hotmail.com
> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 04:37:32 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] beware of some IGIs names
>
> Maria De La Torre is a ranch in Colotlan, Jalisco.
>
>
> here's one IGI of many examples:
>
> name: Ma. De La Torre Valenzuela Rl. gender: Female
> baptism/christening date: 11 May 1776 baptism/christening place: SAN
> LUIS, COLOTLAN, JALISCO, MEXICO father's name: Marcos Valenzuela
> mother's name: Rita Del Rl. indexing project (batch) number: C60286-4
> system origin: Mexico-ODM source film number: 443674
>
> The actual name on the baptism record is: Maria Antonia Valenzuela
>
>
>
> Jose Carlos de Leon

VILLEGAS

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Agustin Villegas was born in Huejucar, Jalisco OR Jerez, Zac abt 1742. He married Rosalia Anriquez. Their first two children were born in Jerez, Zacatecas but the rest were born in Huejucar, Jalisco.

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Published by rosa9972 – Thu, 2013-05-23 21:59 | Permalink

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Hi Christina,

I, like both you and Katy, descend from Augustin Villegas and (Francisca)Rosalia Enrriquez (spelled many different ways, including Anrriques). I do not have the names of his parents, and I believed he married Rosalia in Jerez, during a time period that is not covered in the online records. There are gaps in the Jerez records that would help quite a few of my genealogical questions, but for whatever reason, they are missing.

I do have a note about Agustin: I have seen his last name mentioned as Villegas Moreno. I don't know if Moreno is his mother's last name, or if two two names are really one last name.

As Katy mentioned, Rosalia's parents were Antonio Enrriques and Gertrudis Quesada. There are many people in Huejucar who are descended from the Quesada family, along with the Banuelos family (my great-grandma was a Banuelos who descends from Agustin and Rosalia. My family tree contains many of the family members.

I consider Agustin a dead end for now, until I have more time to go through the Jerez records, or unless there is a dispensation that helps to identify Agustin's parents.

You may email me if you wish, so we can keep in touch on this line; just click on my username.

Rosalinda

Published by longsjourney – Thu, 2013-05-23 15:00 | Permalink

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my files are on Rootsweb.com. file name is Mexico and I do have one more child for Agustin and wife, Maria de San Pablo married to Jph Manuel is Llanos y Valdez. I have 5 children and spouse for them in my files.. hope this helps you.  I do not have the grandparents.
 marriage 18 Jan 1789 in Tepetongo, Zac
Don Jph Manuel Valdes Espanol from Troja
with Dona Maria de San Pablo Villegas Espanola from la Boca, Colotlan
godparents: Don Phelipe del Muro and Dona Maria Rosalia Reveles
source: death and marriage records Tepetongo
page 183 Family search online program
.baptism 10 May 1807 in Jerez, Zac
Juan Jose Espanol born in Santa Gertrudis 6 days old
parents: Don Jose Manuel Valdes and Dona Maria San Pablo Villegas
pat grn: Don Luis Valdes and Dona Francisca del Muro
mat grn: Don Don Agustin Villegas and Dona Rosalia Enriques
pad: Don Eucevio de la Torre and Dona Petra Montes
source: 0439849 film
.
 
 
.

________________________________
From: "notarychris@hotmail.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:21 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] VILLEGAS

Agustin Villegas was born in Huejucar, Jalisco OR Jerez, Zac abt 1742. He married Rosalia Anriquez. Their first two children were born in Jerez, Zacatecas but the rest were born in Huejucar, Jalisco.

I would like to find Agustins Parents or decendants.

Their children
-Nicolas Saba Villegas (1762) Jerez, Zac
-Ana Ygnes Villegas (1764) Jerez, Zac
-Juan Joseph Maria Saturnino Villegas (1765)  Huejucar, Jal
-Joseph Leocadio Villegas ( 1766)  Huejucar, Jal
-Maria Gertrudis Feliciana Villegas ( 1770)  Huejucar, Jal
-Juan Joseph Nepomuceno Romualdo Villegas ( 1772) in  Huejucar, Jal

Published by chris1203 – Thu, 2013-05-23 16:27 | Permalink

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Thank You for the information.

I was actually trying to email but was receiving a failure message.I was noticing we have other people common from other last names. I was wondering if you can send me your direct email or if you can send me an email to notarychris@hotmail.com
I would really appreciate it,
Thank You

Christina Villegas

Published by katy_brecht_quesada – Thu, 2013-05-23 19:39 | Permalink

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i am also a descendant of augstin villegas. i don't know who his parents names aro, but i do know that his wife parents are antonio enriquez and gertrudis quezada.

i descend from him through his son joseph manuel (born in november 1773). joseph manuel villegas marries anita sanchez de nava. one of their sons is cristobal villegas(4th great grandpa). cristoval married refugio de arceo. they had many children incuding my triple great grandma bartola villegas. i'll stop there for now. if you to know more just send me an email.

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