Reply: Tejada 1850 Brick Wall

Hello Albert,

Francisca Tejada was one of my great-great grandmothers. I, too, have been
having difficulty finding information about her family. I do know that she
married Jesus Orendain prior to approximately 1945-1947, because my
great-grandmother, Hipolita Orendain, was born somewhere between 1945-1947.
Jesus Orendain may have been born in Spain (US census records suggest) but
I don't know about Francisca Tejada. (My American Indian DNA could have
come from the Medina side of the family.) Francisca moved to California
USA with her two young daughters after Jesus Orendain (who owned a silver
mine) passed away sometime around 1850. I do know of one family letter to
a Leonica (unclear word) Lopes y Tejeda (Tejada?) either sent to or from
Mazatlan in June, 1852. Much of the later family correspondence in the
1800's comes from Guadalajara, but those letters are all from Orendains.

Best of luck in your search. If I discover anything that might interest
you, I'll let you know.

Warm wishes,
Laurel Anne Hill

Family Search??

Im having a hard time again with Family Search.Im trying to locate a marriage record for Gaspar Masias and Mariana De Torres.It says that they were married in the year 1612 in Sagrario Aguascalientes.So I go to Sagrario Aguascalientes and the year 1612 is not the their the lowest year that is their is 1663-1678.Can someone please help.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JHPB-MBQ

Need help in reading this document please help.

I cant quite figure out what the last name of Cenon's Grandmothers from both sides all i can read is Maria Magdelena.....???and for the other grandmother Ana maria...??? please help.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15092-1073-99?cc=1410092&wc=…

Jose Cenon Munoz Duran is the one being baptized his parents are Jose Antonio Munoz and Rosalia Duran

coleccion de libros de los retoños de españa a nva. galicia

gracias a la ayuda doy informacion certera de que en el edificio de fondo y cultura están a la venta la coleccion que buscaba para las personas que tambien esten interesadas la direccion seria; prolongacion alcalde 1855 y el telefono es el 38192476 con las srita. valentina. esto es en guadalajara, jalisco mexico.

me encuentro muy entusiasmada por tenerlos en mis manos.

Rancho de Ocotes (San Miguel el Alto)

Hola!
 
I have been searching for my GUTIERREZ family for months with no luck.  Last night (by phone) a relative read me the following contents from a birth record.  I'm hoping one of our members may have a lead on this location or these ancestors?
 
Born Miguel Avalos GUTIERREZ, 8 May 1904, vecino del Rancho de Ocotes, San Miguel el Alto.
Hijo de Maria M. Espectacion Avalos y Mariano Gutierrez.
Abuelos paternos Sipriano Gutierrez y Andrea Rodriguez.  Abuelos Maternos Ramon Avalos y Jacinta Pacencia.
Testigos (casados y de edad de este domicilio) Tomas Vasquez y Antonia Ramirez
 
This is my grandfather's brother.
 
With the above information I found a possible link to these grandparents:
 
Ramon Avelar (possibly Ramon Avalos) y Jacinta Pacencia
Married 3 Feb 1864
San Miguel el Alto, Jalisco
 
If anyone can help me out with any information, I would truly appreciate it!
 
Mil gracias, Roxanne Gutierrez (Ocampo)
 
 

Help with this my spanish is very bad?

Don Lorenzo Cervantes-Villaseñor y Cárdenas, fue hijo de José Cervantes y de Alva y de Doña Josefa de Cárdenas, casados el 18 de Abril de 1668 en Jalostotitlán; José Cervantes, fue hijo de Francisco Cervantes Villaseñor, casado el 15 de Octubre de 1614 en Lagos, con Doña María de Alba Retamosa, hija de Alonso de Alva y de Doña Leonor de Retamosa, nieta materna del Regidor Don Alonso Macias Valadez y de Doña María Vázquez de Retamosa. Por esta acta de matrimonio se sabe que Francisco Cervantes, fue hijo de Don Pedro de Villaseñor; pero gracias a Don Mariano González Leal quien amablemente me proporcionó una copia del libro titulado los "Nietos de Don Juan", podemos saber que Don Pedro Villaseñor y Cervantes nació en Michocán, que fueron sus padres Don Juan de Villaseñor y Cervantes, originario de Guango en Michoacán y Doña Catalina Corona, originaria de Extremadura en España; fueron los abuelos paternos de Don Pedro, el Conquistador de Michoacán y la Mixteca Don Juan de Villaseñor y Orozco-Tovar, originario de la Villa de Velez, en España, y Doña Catalina Cervantes Saavedra y de Andrada, originaria de Burguillos del Cerro en Extremadura, España.

Iv'e tried putting it on google translate but when i read it doesn't make sence?

Breakthrough on my Pineda/Pinedo research

For years, I couldn't find much information about my Pineda/o line. My grandfather's father died when he was young and he did not know much about his father (Nicanor Pinedo) except that he was from Tlaltenango, Zac. For years, I've been stuck -- until today!

Here's what I found today -- and if anyone else has these individuals in their family tree, please let me know! The records I'm finding are from Monte Escobedo and Mesquital del Oro, Zac.

Generation No. 1
Bartolo Pinedo m. Maria Gonzales
Place/date: unknown
Son: Gregorio Pinedo

Generation No. 2
Gregorio Pinedo m. Agustina de Ulloa, daughter of Crisanto Ulloa and Juana Sanchez (or Contreras)
Place/date: Monte Escobedo, Zac, 28 April 1834
Son: Pedro Pinedo

Generation No. 3
Pedro Pinedo m. (1) Pioquinta Cardoza, daughter of Santiago Cardoza and Venita Elias. She died in Mesquita del Oro, Zac (March 1886)
Marriage place/date: unknown
Son: Nicanor Pinedo (my great-grandfather)

Pedro Pinedo m. (2) Rita Ruvalcaba, daughter of Marco Ruvalcaba and ______ Orozco.
Marriage place/date: Mesquita del Oro, Zac, 17 Sep 1886
Note: the informacion matrimonial states that Pedro Pinedo's first wife was Pioquinta Cardoza, and that she died in March 1886. This record also states that Pedro Pinedo was originally from Zacatecas, I believe.

Generation No. 4
Nicanor Pinedo m. (1) Antonia Minjares, daughter of Felipe Minjares and Natividad Godoy.
Marriage place/date: Tlaltenango, Zac, 21 Feb 1903
They had no children, so far as I know.

Nicanor Pinedo m. (2) Emilia Gonzalez, daughter of Juan Gonzalez and Dolores Arteaga
Marriage place/date: Tlaltenango, Zac, 4 June 1914
Children: Jesus Maria Pineda (my grandfather) and Emilia Pineda

I hope this may be enough information to make some further connections with others on this listserve!

Chris Pineda

Help im having a hard time with the following family.

Correct me if im wrong.Francisco De Villalovos married Maria Vasquez Retamosa.Parents of Maria are Gaspar Macias-Valadez mother Mariana Torres.Parents of Gaspar are Nicolas Macias Valadez mother Leonor Retamosa.Parents Of Nicolas are Blas Macias Aceves mother Catalina Ramirez.Parents of Mariana Torres are Nicolas Ramirez De Tavera and Polonia Torres.Father of Nicolas Ramirez De Tavera is Capitan Francisco De La Vega Tavera?
Can someone please verify this info here is the link where i got some of the info.
This family is from Santa Maria de Los Lagos, Jalisco and from Aguascalientes, Ags

http://www.paginasprodigy.com.mx/glezgo/familiago/pafg25.htm#808
Iv'e also been reading this and didn't quite help

http://www.historiasyrecuerdosdeencarnaciondediaz.com/macias.html

Polonia Torres Y Nicolas Ramirez -15th century

Hello-

I have beenr researching these ancestors and know that many of us from Aguascalientes come from them. It seems that no one has any info on them besides an IGI File (posted below). Does anyone have this file in their records? I just wanted to ask before I ordered it. Also I think that there may be some possibility that Polonia Torres is the Daughter of Polonia Gamboa and Juan de La Torre from Colima Mexico.

but would like to locate the birth record of Polonia, or marriage record of her to Nicolas Ramirez or the marriage record of one of her children, Agueda Torres, apolonia torres,. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
Mexico
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POLONIA TORRES Pedigree
Female Family

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Event(s):
Birth: About 1569 Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico

Christening:
Death:
Burial:

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Marriages:
Spouse: NICOLAS RAMIREZ Family
Marriage: 1590

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Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record includes the submitter's name and address and names and relationships of family members. The address may be outdated. Some information is estimated. To find the record on the film, you must know the batch and sheet number.

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Source Information:
Batch Number: F867345
Sheet: 002
Source Call No.: 1553960 Type: Film

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Help/Advice re mtDNA

Hello Esther,

If you already have a username and password just logon and hover over the
menu where it says My Account and a drop down menu will show up with the
option GEDCOM/Family Tree and click on that. It will take you to a screen
where you can upload a gedcom file.

If you want to use your brother's Genographic project results being used in
FTDNA you need to them transferred. It is explained in the FAQ at
http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers.aspx?id=3#326 I am not sure if you
can combine your results and his results in to the same account. You should
call FTDNA for that. At worst you'll have the two accounts. One in his name
and one in your name.

What is your paternal line and what is your maternal line? How far back
have you gone with them?

Regards
Armando

On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Esther Jordan wrote:

> Well I finally did it and sent for my mtDNA. It should be ready in early
> May but since I never did this before I am at a loss as to what I am
> supposed to do. I am not good at reading/understanding directions. So am
> I supposed to submit my ancestors' files somewhere? Could someone who has
> done this before give me a hint as to what to do? I do have my brother's
> ftDNA through National Geographic. So I guess I need to know if I should
> submit his report with mine as well? Mine will be from familytreedna.com.
>
> Thank you in advance for any help you may give me.
> Esther Jordan Lopez

Juan de Onate expedition

What microfilms and other records do I need to research to find more information about the families that traveled to New Mexico from Zacatecas around 1598?

I have the book "New Mexico's First Colonists. The 1597-1600 Enlistments for New Mexico under Juan de Onate, Adelante & Gobernador" by David H. Snow.

I hope to find baptism, marriage and death records. What are the names of the towns and settlements in Zacatecas where the people lived?

la Familia Enrriques del Castillo (long)

Consider the following:

Pedro Losano was married to Beatrís Enrriques del Castillo; they had at least seven documented children, five of them between 1700 and 1716, and all but the last of those five in 'la Estancia de la Vaqueria' in Jalos. There are at least two additional children, both female; their relationship to their parents is documented by their own marriages, in 1711 and 1718, respectively. Assuming the girl who married in 1711 was at least 16 years old, that makes her birth date no later than about 1695; so the marriage of Pedro Losano and Beatrís Enrriques del Castillo probably took place by 1694 or thereabout.

Padrinos at the birth of one of the Losano children, Joseph Miguel, in 1703 were "... Jacinto Losano y su muger Francisca Vasques ...".

Jacinto Losano, "... viudo de Francisca Vasques de Lara ...", married Lugarda Enrriques del Castillo in 'la Estancia' in 1712. The parents of Lugarda are given as 'Joseph Enrriques del Castillo y de Da Ana Tabera'—the apellido is unclear to me on the image [film 279295 image 145 page 45v] and I am unfamiliar with that name. This is certainly the same Jacinto Losano who was the padron at the baptism in 1703.

Now, this evidence begs the following questions: (1) are Pedro Losano and Jacinto Losano brothers (or at least related); and (2) are their spouses, Beatrís Enrriques del Castillo and Lugarda Enrriques del Castillo, sisters (or at least related)?

I have been unable to locate the marriage record for Pedro Losano and Beatrís Enrriques del Castillo, and the parents of Jacinto Losano are not given in the record of his second marriage, since he is identified only as 'viudo de ...' in the record.

Does anyone have any information that will illuminate this issue for me? I'm thinking, of course, of Hernando Enriques del Castillo in Guadalajara a generation earlier.

Best wishes,
Lawrence Bouett

More on Francisco/Pedro/Hernando Enriques

Just to be sure I understand what is known, and not known, about this (presumed) Enriques family:

We know that Francisco Enriques (1677, Nochistlán), who married Ana Albares de Tostado (1702, Nochistlán), is the son of Pedro Enriques and Isabel Calderon Delgadillo; indcientally, we also know that Francisco has a sister, Magdalena (birth date unknown), who married Joseph Albares de Tostado (1702, Nochistlán). Not to get off too far on a tangent, but Ana Albares de Tostado's parents are Juan Albares Tostado and Ysabel Ramires de Mendosa, while Joseph Albares de Tostado's parents are Francisco Tostado and Ana Ramires. So while Francisco Enriques and Magdalena Enriques are siblings, Joseph Albares and Ana Albares are at most cousins, if they are related (it is a reasonable assumption that they are, but it is unproved). Coincidentally, the two marriages (of Pedro Enriques and his sister, Magdalena) are consecutive on the microfilm roll.

We also know that a Pedro Enriques (1646, Guadalajara) is the son of Hernando Enriques and María de Cuellar. We know further that a Bernardo Enriques (1644, Guadalajara) is also a son of Hernando Enriques and María de Cuellar.

We know that a Pedro Enriques, "... veo de la Villa de S. Phelipe en el obispado de Mechoacan ...", married Isabel Calderon (1667, Nochistlán).

What we do not know, then, is whether the two Pedro Enriques' are the same person.

Do I have that right?

Best wishes,
Lawrence Bouett

The 3rd Annual Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society Conference in Sacramento, California (Northern California)

The Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society, which focuses on genealogical interests from the Nueva Galicia area of colonial Mexico, is pleased to announce the 3rd Annual Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society Conference, which will be held in Sacramento, California (Northern California) at the California State Archive, 1020 " O " Street on May 12, 2012.

The California State Archive will provide two guided tours of the archive, one in the morning and another in the afternoon. They will also provide a viewing of California Spanish land grant and California's bilingual State Constitution material.

The conference will kick off with featured speaker, Claudia Casillas. Claudia will do a presentation on the Dispensas of Guadalajara. Among other issues, she will cover the current status of the extraction project. She will reveal what is a Dispensa Matrinonial and where these records are located. She will be breaking down a Dispensa document and showing techniques for extracting important details

Marian Kile will speak on PC Tips that all Genealogists Should Know. Marian will show us some ways to make our research and documentation easier. She will cover cutting and pasting, using screen images, saving documents and images, and more. Marian is a former Computer Programmer, and currently volunteers at the Sacramento Family History Center. She's an experienced Genealogist and has been teaching others how to research their family history.

Presenting as well is John M. Koelsch. He will give a talk on the subject of Mexican Revolution research sources. John is the moderator of the Yahoo Mexican Revolution Researchers Group. John has spent a number of years now doing research on the Mexican Revolution. This work has included searching in archives and university libraries across the USA with emphasis on resources found in the border states of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. He has also done research at the Archivo General de la Nación which is the National Archive of Mexico.

A premier Mexican musical group in Sacramento,CA. will provide a presentation on the historical origins and characteristics of the typical music of Jalisco and Zacatecas, Mariachi music, Tamborazo Zacatecano. The distinguishing characteristics of son jalisiense and corridos zactecanos will be explored,

The Hyatt Regency, at 1209 L Street has agreed to a group rate of $99 for participants of the NGGS conference. This hotel is a first class and newly-renovated facility. The AAA Four Diamond hotel is located in the heart of the city’s downtown, across from the State Capitol and Capitol Park. It is within walking distance to the State Archives on 1020 O Street.

A dedicated booking website will be created for our event so our guests will be able to make, modify and cancel their hotel reservations online, as well as take advantage of any room upgrades, amenities or other services offered by the hotel. You will receive an email confirmation when the Hyatt dedicated website is ready. Guests may also call the reservations department at 888-421-1442 and request the Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society block of rooms.

The cost for attending will be $ 50.00 to defray conference costs for coffee, pan dulce, La Lonche, materials, insurance and guest speaker rooms, etc. La Cena will be provided by Vallejo's Restaurant. This dinner will be on a no host basis. Fill out the attached form and send to Anna Arellano Smith at 2020 Gray Ave, Yuba City, Ca 95991

If you are interested in attending the conference, please contact Anna Arellano Smith at annaa_smith@yahoo.com
or Robert Hernandez at tehuima2@yahoo.com There is limited seating. Registration opens March 26, 2012. For more updates and current information, please visit our website at nuevagalicia.net

Matamoros

Can any one guide me towards defunciones in Matamoros, Coahuila, for the years, 1853-1854? My g,g,g,grandfather, Pablo Luna, died at that time span and location. I haven't been able to find any info about this time...Thanks, Raul Cristerna Luna

Traditional Foods in Mexico origin from Jewish?

In our village of Huejuquilla during Holy Week, we have "La Judea" festivities. During this week, we eat, "Capirotada" also we eat Pan Semanita. But I was looking at this article I just saw:

http://shine.yahoo.com/spring-celebrations/battle-matzoh-balls-18570009…

Matzoh Balls?

In Mexico they are popular but called, "Abondigas."

General Digest, Vol 75, Issue 3 - Lester Alvarado

Hi Lester.......Mickey and I were in Tonala a few years ago...I really liked the area! You might as well go into Guadalajara since it is so close! :-) Have fun and enjoy the trip! Josie in Houston

On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:05 PM, general-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:

> This is for the group,
>
> My name is Welester G. Alvarado Carrillo and as of lately I have not been participating in the debates and such . I currently live in Monterrey, Mexico and next week I will be visiting Tonala , Jalisco . My question here is , anyone live close by to Tonala or does anyone have any advice .
>
> Thanks ,
> Welester
>

Announce Digest, Vol 73, Issue 3 - Chris Pineda

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the info. My Trevino paternal lineage includes Villarreal and Longoria.....have you done research on your wife's lines? BTW, here is the link for the State Conference in October: http://www.rgvhispanicgenealogicalsociety.com/
I am looking forward to it and plan to stay additional days to do more research as well as meeting newfound primos/primas in the Valley and especially meeting the members of the new group just formed there.

Abrazos, Josie

On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:00 PM, announce-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:

> Hi Josie --
>
> Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I would be very interested in any upcoming events. I don't have roots in Brownsville or Matamoros; my wife's family does though (Cisneros, Villarreal, Longoria families). However, I am a descendant of various founding families from Mier, Tamaulipas through my ggg grandparents, Tomas Ramirez and Concepcion, who moved from Mier to Laredo, TX in the 1890s. These families had land grants in South Texas dating from the 1760s, although at least my ancestors lost or sold their portion in the 1890s for reasons that aren't yet clear.
>
> Please keep me posted on any upcoming events!
>
> Chris Pineda
>
>

Dispensas help; Pinedo research

Hey everyone,

In my direct paternal ancestor search, I found the following record:

Gregorio Pinedo m. Agustina Ulloa
Place/date: Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas, 28 April 1834
Gregorio Pinedo's parents: Bartolo Pinedo and Maria Gonzales
Agustina Ulloa's parents: Crisanto Ulloa and Juana Contreras
Source: Monte Escobedo, Matrimonios 1799-1877 (p225 of 722)

In looking at this record, there's the following reference: "previa la dispensa de cuarto con cuatro grado de consanguinidad de que fueron dispensados (?) la sagrada mitra de Guadalajara."

I'm actually new to the Mitra de Guadalajara. Where can I find this dispensa? Does anyone know of an index for this time period. I saw there's a website (guadalajaradispensas.com), but I don't see this time period up.

Any help is appreciated!

Chris PIneda