Nuestros Ranchos Site

Congratulations, Joseph, on breaking through your brick wall.  It
gives me hope that I can also break some brick walls of my own!

Also, I sympathize with you being "cansado" from all you duties and
chores as a group admnistrator.  You seem to have answered your own
questions from a

Linda,

Here's some additional information with what Arturo and Emile wrote.

Here is Marriage extract:
MANUEL ROMERO
  Male
Marriages:
  Spouse:  MARCELINA DE LA TORRE
  Marriage:  19 OCT 1870   Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico
Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.
Source Information:
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:
 M603739  1869 - 1876  0218529

The couple had at least two children:
+ JOSE MARCOS ROMERO TORRE
Gender: Male Christening: 07 OCT 1871 Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, 
Mexico
+ JOSE SERAPIO ROMERO TORRE
Gender: Male Christening: 14 NOV 1872 Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, 
Mexico

Here is Marriage extract:
JOSE DE LA TORRE
  Male
Marriages:
  Spouse:  ELENA ROMERO
  Marriage:  04 FEB 1880   Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico
Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged

here is an idea. Why not try to recruit some more people into the group
with roots in Tepatitlan de Morelos? Go to Rootsweb and to the message
boards and then in the search window enter "Tepatitlan de Morelos" and
then just plain "Tepatitlan." Have a look around for the messages of
people that seem to be serious and invite them to join Ranchos. I got
over a hundred hits on Tepatitlan and 27 for Tepatitlan de Morelos.

maybe go over

Emilie:

That is a very good write up to get somebody started on this 
research.  Be careful Linda, because once you start, it becomes a 
sort of addiction.  The more you find, the more questions pop up and 
the more you go looking.

Here is the IGI entry for your great-granparents' marriage in 
Tepetitlan.  The next step would be to go to your family history 
center and order this film.  It should list both the bride and the 
groom's parents and then you should be able to find their baptism 
records in IGI or VRI as well, and those often list grandparents in 
addition to parents so you get two generations in one swoop.

MANUEL ROMERO  
  Male   Family 
Event(s): 
Marriages: 
  Spouse:  MARCELINA DE LA TORRE  Family 
  Marriage:  19 OCT 1870   Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico 

Batch No.: M603739
Source Call No.: 0218529 Film



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
>
> Linda,
> 
> We mostly start by looking in the IGI in the FamilySearch

here is an idea. Why not try to recruit some more people into the group
with roots in Tepatitlan de Morelos? Go to Rootsweb and to the message
boards and then in the search window enter "Tepatitlan de Morelos" and
then just plain "Tepatitlan." Have a look around for the messages of
people that seem to be serious and invite them to join Ranchos. I got
over a hundred hits on Tepatitlan and 27 for Tepatitlan de Morelos.

maybe go over to some of the other large groups and see who is
researching that area.

you say you've been to SLC, but are you ordering films and seaching them
in the family history center close to you? What city do you live in?
Where are you stuck and which type of records have you researched so far
and during what time period?

joseph




Linda R Romero wrote:

My main focus is in Jalisco - Tepatitlan de Morelos to be exact. I
have not been able to find anything farther away than that little
burg. In fact, after lurking on this list all summer, I

My main focus is in Jalisco - Tepatitlan de Morelos to be exact. I
have not been able to find anything farther away than that little
burg. In fact, after lurking on this list all summer, I haven't
found anyone with a connection to my Romero/de la Torre family from
that area. You are all such good researchers. I've been to SLC and
copied information from the Baptismos from Tepatitlan and am trying
to connect the Romero/de la Torre names to my family. My father was
born there but told so many "stories" the truth is hard to find. He
even had us kids claim he was born in Guatamala throughout our school
years. I found the truth when I was an adult. He also never allowed
us to learn Spanish. What a character! So I'll keep lurking and
learning from all you great researchers.

  Where do you find all that good information?

Linda Romero
  Ramon Romero/Marie L. Hallstead
     Castulo Romero/Sophia de la Torre - Donald Hallstead/Merle Beltz

Manuel Romero

Congratulations on breaking through your brick
wall...I'm jealous, wish it was me.

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> 
> elviraz wrote:
> 
> >>And, yes, the name is a little misleading because
> I do not
> >>see much discusion about the ranchos we were
> supposed to be
> >>finding out about.
> >>
> >>Elvira
> >>
> Today I broke through my last brick wall. . .in fact
> I didn't break 
> through it I pulverized it into non existence. I
> started off by not 
> knowing my maternal grandmothers real name to
> finding it by a collection 
> or oral history and the brief mention of a surname
> on my mom's death 
> certificate. Then about a couple of months ago I
> made contact with some 
> that told me that they were related to this
> grandmother and that she 
> came from Huejucar. Well today I confirmed that my
> grandmother, Antonia 
> Lopez was born 17 Jan 1892 in Atotonilco, Jalisco a
> Rancho not far from 
> Huejucar. Her parents are Francisco Lopez and
> Rosalia Garcia. Her 
>

I think the group should stay like it is now.  That is
my vote!
--- Margarita Vallazza  wrote:

> No.  I like what we're doing.    Sorry you're
> feeling overwhelmed, dear 
> Joseph.    Marge:)
> 
> On Nov 3, 2005, at 6:11 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
> 
> >
> >  I grow weary.
> >
> >  I can't go any more than how I'm going.
> >
> >  If we were to get a few moderators to handle all
> the added traffic and
> >  keep things orderly including dealing with Data
> Miners I might 
> > consider
> >  opening up the research area. But truthfully I
> can't handle anymore 
> > and
> >  if Ranchos were to double in size just from the
> geographic area as is
> >  I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the
> handwritting is on the 
> > wall.
> >  This group might need a new Moderator before too
> much longer.
> >
> >  For that matter why not just everyone move over
> to Jonathan's group? 
> > its
> >  already in place covering all of Mexico. Afterall
> its the membership
> >  that

I grow weary.

I can't go any more than how I'm going.

If we were to get a few moderators to handle all the added traffic and
keep things orderly including dealing with Data Miners I might consider
opening up the research area. But truthfully I can't handle anymore and
if Ranchos were to double in size just from the geographic area as is
I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the handwritting is on the wall.
This group might need a new Moderator

Congratulations, Joseph, on breaking through your brick wall.  It
gives me hope that I can also break some brick walls of my own!

Also, I sympathize with you being "cansado" from all you duties and
chores as a group admnistrator.  You seem to have answered your own
questions from a previous message.  

Easy does it!  

Victor



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> Today I broke through my last brick wall. . .in fact I didn't break 
> through it I pulverized it into non existence. I started off by not 
> knowing my maternal grandmothers real name to finding it by a
collection 
> or oral history and the brief mention of a surname on my mom's death 
> certificate. Then about a couple of months ago I made contact with some 
> that told me that they were related to this grandmother and that she 
> came from Huejucar. Well today I confirmed that my grandmother, Antonia 
> Lopez was born 17 Jan 1892 in Atotonilco, Jalisco a Rancho not far from 
> Huejucar

Hurray!!!!! Congratulations!!!!



On Nov 3, 2005, at 5:53 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

elviraz wrote:

And, yes, the name is a little misleading because I do not

see much discusion about the ranchos we were supposed to be

finding out about.



Elvira

last brick wall. . .in fact I didn't break through it I pulverized it into non existence. I started off by not knowing my maternal grandmothers real name to finding it by a collection or oral history and the brief mention of a surname on my mom's death certificate. Then about a couple of months ago I made contact with some that told me that they were related to this grandmother and that she came from Huejucar. Well today I confirmed that my grandmother, Antonia Lopez was born 17 Jan 1892 in Atotonilco, Jalisco a Rancho not far from Huejucar. Her parents are Francisco Lopez and Rosalia Garcia. Her Abuelos paternos are Nicolas Lopez and Alvina Perez and Abuelos maternos are Florentino Garcia and Toribia Renteria. My grandmother Antonia Lopez had

No. I like what we're doing. Sorry you're feeling overwhelmed, dear Joseph. Marge:)



On Nov 3, 2005, at 6:11 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

I grow weary.



I can't go any more than how I'm going.



If we were to get a few moderators to handle all the added traffic and

keep things orderly including dealing with Data Miners I might consider

opening up the research area. But truthfully I can't handle anymore and

if Ranchos were to double in size just from the geographic area as is

I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the handwritting is on the wall.

This group might need a new Moderator before too much longer.



For that matter why not just everyone move over to Jonathan's group? its

already in place covering all of Mexico. Afterall its the membership

that make the group, isn't it? Why can't you all join that group also.

There you'd be able to discuss all of Mexico without restriction.



there is nothing special about here. Awhile ago about 15 months or so we

opene

Congrats, I am very happy to see you found the information on the family you were missing!
 I truly  feel your being smiled on from above!!!
Hope
============================================================
From: Joseph Puentes 
Date: 2005/11/03 Thu PM 05:53:03 CST
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Atotonilco



elviraz wrote:

>>And, yes, the name is a little misleading because I do not
>>see much discusion about the ranchos we were supposed to be
>>finding out about.
>>
>>Elvira
>>
Today I broke through my last brick wall. . .in fact I didn't break 
through it I pulverized it into non existence. I started off by not 
knowing my maternal grandmothers real name to finding it by a collection 
or oral history and the brief mention of a surname on my mom's death 
certificate. Then about a couple of months ago I made contact with some 
that told me that they were related to this grandmother and that she 
came from Huejucar. Well today I confirmed that my grandmother

Congrats, I am very happy to see you found the information on the family you were missing!
 I truly  feel your being smiled on from above!!!
Hope
============================================================
From: Joseph Puentes 
Date: 2005/11/03 Thu PM 05:53:03 CST
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Atotonilco



elviraz wrote:

>>And, yes, the name is a little misleading because I do not
>>see much discusion about the ranchos we were supposed to be
>>finding out about.
>>
>>Elvira
>>
Today I broke through my last brick wall. . .in fact I didn't break 
through it I pulverized it into non existence. I started off by not 
knowing my maternal grandmothers real name to finding it by a collection 
or oral history and the brief mention of a surname on my mom's death 
certificate. Then about a couple of months ago I made contact with some 
that told me that they were related to this grandmother and that she 
came from Huejucar. Well today I confirmed that my grandmother

Congrats, I am very happy to see you found the information on the family you were missing!
 I truly  feel your being smiled on from above!!!
Hope
============================================================
From: Joseph Puentes 
Date: 2005/11/03 Thu PM 05:53:03 CST
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Atotonilco



elviraz wrote:

>>And, yes, the name is a little misleading because I do not
>>see much discusion about the ranchos we were supposed to be
>>finding out about.
>>
>>Elvira
>>
Today I broke through my last brick wall. . .in fact I didn't break 
through it I pulverized it into non existence. I started off by not 
knowing my maternal grandmothers real name to finding it by a collection 
or oral history and the brief mention of a surname on my mom's death 
certificate. Then about a couple of months ago I made contact with some 
that told me that they were related to this grandmother and that she 
came from Huejucar. Well today I confirmed that my grandmother

Bigger is not better.  Let's keep the group and states
as they are.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- Joseph Puentes wrote:

>
> I grow weary.
>
> I can't go any more than how I'm going.
>
> If we were to get a few moderators to handle all the
> added traffic and
> keep things orderly including dealing with Data
> Miners I might consider
> opening up the research area. But truthfully I can't
> handle anymore and
> if Ranchos were to double in size just from the
> geographic area as is
> I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the
> handwritting is on the wall.
> This group might need a new Moderator before too
> much longer.
>
> For that matter why not

Bigger is not better.  Let's keep the group and states
as they are.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> I grow weary.
> 
> I can't go any more than how I'm going.
> 
> If we were to get a few moderators to handle all the
> added traffic and 
> keep things orderly including dealing with Data
> Miners I might consider 
> opening up the research area. But truthfully I can't
> handle anymore and 
> if Ranchos were to double in size just from the
> geographic area as is 
> I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the
> handwritting is on the wall. 
> This group might need a new Moderator before too
> much longer.
> 
> For that matter why not just everyone move over to
> Jonathan's group? its 
> already in place covering all of Mexico. Afterall
> its the membership 
> that make the group, isn't it? Why can't you all
> join that group also. 
> There you'd be able to discuss all of Mexico without
> restriction.
> 
> there is nothing

I grow weary.

I can't go any more than how I'm going.

If we were to get a few moderators to handle all the added traffic and
keep things orderly including dealing with Data Miners I might consider
opening up the research area. But truthfully I can't handle anymore and
if Ranchos were to double in size just from the geographic area as is
I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the handwritting is on the wall.
This group might need a new Moderator before too much longer.

For that matter why not just everyone move over to Jonathan's group? its
already in place covering all of Mexico. Afterall its the membership
that make the group, isn't it? Why can't you all join that group also.
There you'd be able to discuss all of Mexico without restriction.

there is nothing special about here. Awhile ago about 15 months or so we
opened up and took in Aguascalientes. I'm all in favor of taking in all
of historical Nueva Galicia. But I just don't have the energy to do it.

hey why