Nuestros Ranchos Site

In case anyone was wondering what the gadgets that Emilie is talking 
about look like and cost... I am a big technology junkie but the film 
scanner is way beyond my means.

http://www.heritagecreations.com/products/st100.php

http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=119781

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
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> Mary, I don't know how much you know about all the new-fangled 
technical gadgets besides audio recorders and digital cameras that 
are available to serve our genealogy purposes, but if you could, 
maybe you could get some and take them with you.  You might be able 
to access some computers in certain towns at internet cafes too if 
you can't take a laptop along.  The people at the genealogy society 
here and at the local FHC have some amazing things.  One lady showed 
me a gadget she uses to scan books.  Honest, it was no bigger than a 
ruler and she would start at the top of the page and move it down, 
then she showed me on the

I am going to make a folder in Ranchos2 called "Members Hobbies and
Careers." This will be a place where members can upload any information
they would like other members to know about in relation to their hobbies
and careers. Information can be placed there about anything someone has
forsale or offers to other members. I will control this if it gets out
of hand but for the time being will allow members to freely upload their
information and let the "new files uploaded" messages go out to the
group one by one. Later like I said if it gets to be much I'll package
the messages and send them out once a month. Some of these hobbies are
definitely genealogy related. I'll be involved in this as well but am
not ready to get involved yet.

joseph

Mary,

I'd say that traveling by bus is OK, as bus drivers know the roads
very well.  Of course this isn't a surprise visit, right?  It might be
worth buying one of those cheap cellular phones to keep in touch with
your contacts. 

San Felipe is located in the northern part of Guanajuato.  To get an
overview of Guanajuato click on the following link.
http://www.guanajuato.gob.mx/turismo/frames/nuestroedo_2.html

For a detailed map of Guanajuato and preferably if you have a
braodband connection there's an excellent map in the next link:
http://mapserver.inegi.gob.mx/geografia/espanol/estados/gto/gto.pdf?c=459&e=11&CFID=966958&CFTOKEN=59264336

Hope this helps.  Enjoy!

Victor Villarreal

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  wrote:
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> Thank you to both Josie and Victor:
> I thought about that.  I hope that someone from those I meet in
Mexico City will offer to go with me to Guanajuato.  I have travelled
alone extensively, but now I think prudence is the best

Hello Josie,

Good thinking and suggestion for Mary.  Also, it goes without saying
to always be extra cautious when it comes to safety.  If your going to
travel by land over there get yourself the company of a trusted friend
or relative that knows his way around;  preferably don't drive by
night;  keep a low profile in general.

Victor Villarreal

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Josiett3@s... wrote:
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>    Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:44:49 -0700 (PDT)
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Can someone tell me where these two ranchos are located?

Can someone tell me anything about them?

I understand that families of Apache descendancy settled here  from
the US.  Can anyone shed some light on this?

Elvira

Hello Josie,

Good thinking and suggestion for Mary.  Also, it goes without saying
to always be extra cautious when it comes to safety.  If your going to
travel by land over there get yourself the company of a trusted friend
or relative that knows his way around;  preferably don't drive by
night;  keep a low profile in general.

Victor Villarreal

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Josiett3@s... wrote:
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>     Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:44:49 -0700 (PDT)
>    From: Mary Allen 
>  
>  Guanajuato.  I found  photos and a lot more information.
> 
> Hi Mary!   May I suggest you take a Spanish/English dictionary when you 
> travel to Mexico.  My friend Mickey Garcia and I go to Mexico quite a 
> bit and, believe me, there have been times that I wished I had carried 
> mine with me.

Esperanza,

Thanks for your feedback in this matter.  Instead of discarding or
admitting any and all possibilities of those Villarreales in the AGN
documents below from being related to me, let me briefly describe what
is the current status of my research.

The first thing to clarify is an erroneous entry in Danny's page
regarding Diego de Villarreal's place of origin.  It should say
Allende El Grande, Guanajuato, instead of Allende El Grande, Oaxaca. 
That alone, assuming there's a document (yet to be found) to base that
affirmation, changes the whole perspective of the documents you quote.

As to the several Francisco de Villarreales (actually just two) that
could be related to Diego, one of them appears in old records (1570s -
1580s) from Saltillo, Coahuila, accompaning the colonizer Francisco de
Urdiñola.  The other Francisco de Villarreal is quoted in the record
#314079 below.  He was a "contador del Tribunal de Cuentas de la
ciudad de Mexico" in the early 1600s who had to do with

Hello Again:



I hope to go to Tlaltenango next year.....some of my ancestors are from the area.  I was in Calvillo, Aguas. last year and was able to get info from the old books.....Valle de Huejacar, as it was called then....the books were old and falling apart;  they gave me an new copy; I had gotten a copy from the microfilm FHC....



Mickey

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Hi:

Just to let members know that I have just uploaded a file to Ranchos2 
AAA Genealogies. The file covers GONZALES from JALOSTOTITLAN, JALISCO.

Hello,

When I do research, i do my research in two parts. First, I search the
IGI using batch numbers, marriage searches, parent searches, etc.  In
order to Identify, who I will be looking for on the films.  Then I
enter all the information that I have found that identifies the film,
 such as town, film numbers, record type, time period,  Batch number,
and if the film is in the FHL or in the vault.  Then I enter all the
dates and names that I want from the film. 

Here is a example: (**** Attn: Linda Romero **** this is what I
recommend for you, to research)

Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
0038332	Bautismos	1820-1824		C603166	FHL
	15 Feb 1823	Maria Faustina Torre Padilla

1107895	Bautismos	1826-1831		C602542	FHL
	14 Aug 1827	Ma. Atanazia Torres

Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico
0218447	Bautismos	1810-1816		C603699	FHL
	04 Dec 1814	Jose Saturnino Torre Padilla

0218448	Bautismos	1816-1821		C603701	FHL
	17 Apr 1819	Jose Franco. Torre Padilla
	21 Mar 1821	Maria Matilde Torre Padilla

Esperanza,

When I first got interested in genealogy and stumbled across Danny
Villarreal's web site, I remember reading that most of the people with
the Villarreal surname had the same roots.  I really found that a
little hard to believe at that time.  Now that we have been digging up
information in old books and ancient manuscripts, etc. we've come up
with many more individuals from the XVI-XVII centuries with the same
surname, which indicates the existance of several lineages, as it is
reflected in the widespread presence of Villarreales all over Mexico.

As to the origin of our oldest (documented) ancestor for the northeast
Mexico Villarreals, it is recorded that Diego de Villarreal entered
the state of Nuevo León, from Zacatecas, with then governor Martín de
Zavala, in 1626.  In spite of some information to the contrary
available on the internet, I don't know of any documented primary
source that records Diego de Villarreal parents and/or his family
origins.  We have several leads

Joseph,

The only drawback, to the Digest mode.  Is that, if someone uploads a
attachment, such as the message that Michael sent the other. 

You will not get the attachments, if you receive the digest mode.  

Jonathan


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
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> the messages have been coming in hot and heavy as of late. I want to 
> remind everyone that changing your subscription to "DIGEST" is an
option 
> and a better option than considering unsubscribing. Even if digest
is to 
> much you can always go on "no mail" and just read the messages on
the WWW.
> 
> if you don't know how to change to Digest just email me and I'll change 
> it for you.
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: Digest means that instead of each individual message from the group 
> coming into your "INBOX" you will get one or at most two messages per 
> day with all the activity of that day. It will be a large message or 
> 'digest.'
>