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Great Story Alicia,
 I wish to share the following with the Group... My
father Elpidio Tristan Munoz{Mar 04, 1906, immigrated
in 1920 at age 14 ... he was a mojado {wet
back}...never was naturalized nor did he desired to
be. My grandfather and Grandmother entered the U.S.
{March 1920},... sought Eleudoro {John} Tristan (May
04,1892 - July 18,1985}, my Grandmother's brother} in
Texas. My father was a die hard when it came to
Mexican citizenship,SLP, up to his death in Feb 26,
1968.

Immigration Alien registration numbers for my
Grandmother, 2 Aunts and 2 Uncles.

Alien Report: GUADALUPE MUNOZ  No. 3929605            
        United States Department of Justice
Alien Report: EVARISTA T. MUNOZ   No. 3983409         
           Immigration and Naturalization Service
Alien Report: JOSEPH A. MUNOZ      No. 3929606        
            Alien Registration Division
Alien Report: FRANCES M. TORRES  No. 3929604          
          Washington, D.C.
Alien Report: JOSE T. MUNOZ JR.     No. 3929603

Are you an immigrant? 

Jose Munoz,  CA

--- Natalie  wrote:

> A few weeks back someone mentioned the book, "Rain
> of Gold", which told 
> the immigration story of the author's grandfather
> and grandmother.
> So - can you share your immigrant ancestor's story?
>   - When did they come to the U.S.? How long did
> their journey take? 
> Did they come alone or with a group? Was their move
> to U.S. meant to be 
> temporary or permanent? Where did they settle? What
> did they think of 
> their decision to move from their home in Mexico?
> What traditions did 
> they bring with them? How many generations ago did
> the immigration take 
> place? (Are you the immigrant?)
> I hope this is not being too nosey - and thanks for
> sharing your 
> stories.
> 
> Matalie Coleman, VA
> 
> 
> 
> 



		
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From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Alicia
Carrillo
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 4:55 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Immigration
stories

Natalie,

 

I am the one who recommended the book "Rain of Gold'' and I am the
immigrant.

 

I was brought here to San Jose´ Ca when I was two years of age. Mom said
that my father sent for her and the 3 children and this was in 1952. My sister
was almost five, I was two and a half and my brother Rigoberto was one year
old.

 

Mom said we flew to Ensenada which has a military airport called El
Cipres. We were picked up by an aunt and went to stay with them for a short
period of time in Maneadero Baja Ca until my dad could get someone to come
pick us up as he was a mojado (wet back) and could not cross the
border.

A family friend came to pick us up and he traveled with us on the train
to

A few weeks back someone mentioned the book, "Rain of Gold", which told 
the immigration story of the author's grandfather and grandmother.
So - can you share your immigrant ancestor's story?
  - When did they come to the U.S.? How long did their journey take? 
Did they come alone or with a group? Was their move to U.S. meant to be 
temporary or permanent? Where did they settle? What did they think of 
their decision to move from their home in Mexico? What traditions did 
they bring with them? How many generations ago did the immigration take 
place? (Are you the immigrant?)
I hope this is not being too nosey - and thanks for sharing your 
stories.

Matalie Coleman, VA

Rosalinda, et. al.

I thought I would share this with the group.  Thanks to Angies 
meticulous analysis of my family tree data, we have discovered that I 
am decendant of Joseph Cayetano Grano (Rita and Eucevia and 
Josepha's) father in a total of six different ways...  I guess we are 
cousins in more ways than we thought.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"  
wrote:
> Arturo--
> 
> May I invite myself to this party?  I too am descended from Rita 
Margarita Grano and Pedro Pablo Gonzalez.  Angie is my cousin as 
well.  Rita is my great-great-great-great-great-grandmother.  I 
actually relate to her a total of five different ways.  I'll send you 
my email address so we can correspond.  I have found another cousin, 
courtesy of the Ranchos group!  Thanks, primo Joseph!
> 
> Rosalinda
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: arturoramos2 
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 7/12/2005 8:49:46 AM 
> Subject: [ranchos] Re: New member - Grano Family
> 
>

Joseph,

Why is it that those last three messages keep posting themselves?  
Seems to happened once a month...

Angie

Hello Everyone,

Here is another friendly reminder. Since reaching near maximum capacity
in the files area I have needed to close them to new members and place
their genealogies in YahooBriefcase. I will make up a folder in this area
for them and place a link in the "links" area of the group to these folders.
As always only group members will have access to anyone's genealogies. The public will not have access. 

To prevent new members from voluntarily putting their genealogies in the files area and running us dangerously near our limit I've closed the files. They are still available for viewing by the members but additions, subtractions, and any updating needs to go through me. I'm sorry about this but it's a problem created by trying to keep this group 100% FREE to the members. If we had lots of money to blow we could purchase file space and hire an IT person to run it and just concern ourselves with Genealogy. Unfortuneately that is not the case and these limitations need to be

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New members: Please go to the Database and fill in your information. If you are
old to the group, but haven't submitted your information please consider doing it now.
Here are Angie Godina's Instructions on what you need to do. If you have
any additional questions please direct them to: aajay1073@...

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Thanks to everyone who entered their information.  I think it will 
become very benificial to all of us.

What I think is good about the database is that when you open it up, 
you are given that "Search This Table" input box.  If you type in a 
surname or a location, it lists out all the people searching that 
surname and or location.  A very useful feature, be sure to try it.

The fields in the table are: Name
Email Address    {optional}[but provide it anyway, jp]
Research Surnames    {Surnames you are researching.}
Research Location    {Cities, Towns, Ranchos that your ancestors are from.}
My Location    {Your current location - optional}

So once you

The Ministry of Culture in Spain has a website that has many of their 
archive documents online.  I am just now trying to figure out how to 
use it.  Try this link... it has instructions in English.  The 
webiste is only in Spanish:

http://www.ldelpino.com/aeren.html

The "catalogue" is a seven volume publication for of the passenger 
lists through 1599... Below is the Library of Congress entry for the 
books, as well as a link to other LOC resources on Spanish 
immigration to the New World.  I live in Washington DC so that is 
where I will probably access these (if I can't do it online) but I 
imagine other large libraries have copies as well.  I believe that 
the LDS has filmed the entirety of the passenger lists through the 
18th Century but those films do not circulate to local Family History 
Centers... so you will basically have to go to Seville or Salt Lake 
City to see them unless the online access works.  I am crossing my 
fingers that it does.

LDS Calatog under "Pasajeros a

Is the below library catalog accessible by the
Internet? Please let me know.

Albert Duarte
Santa Maria, California

--- Arturo Ramos wrote:

> Has anyone attempted to find their ancestors'
> immigration records from
> Spain, i.e. ship passenger lists of immigrants to
> Mexico, etc.
>
> From what I have been able to tell, the best bet is
> the Catalogue of
> Passengers to the Indies published by the

Arturo,

Have you tried "Archivos Españoles en Red" (www.aer.es) ?
As expected, you have to register first in order to gain access.
The navigation is not very user friendly but if you try hard enough
you'll eventually learn your way around.  Of course, you can also ask us!

If you want an easier route to the passenger lists, check your library
for Peter Boyd-Bowman's "Indice geobiográfico de más de 56 mil
pobladores de la América Hispánica".  I think this book is currently
out of print but my understanding is that it has the same lists that
you'll find in the "Archivos General de Indias".

Victor



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  wrote:
> Has anyone attempted to find their ancestors' immigration records from 
> Spain, i.e. ship passenger lists of immigrants to Mexico, etc.
> 
> From what I have been able to tell, the best bet is the Catalogue of 
> Passengers to the Indies published by the Archive General de las Indias 
> in Seville... Catalago de

Is the below library catalog accessible by the
Internet? Please let me know.

Albert Duarte
Santa Maria, California

--- Arturo Ramos  wrote:

> Has anyone attempted to find their ancestors'
> immigration records from 
> Spain, i.e. ship passenger lists of immigrants to
> Mexico, etc.
> 
> From what I have been able to tell, the best bet is
> the Catalogue of 
> Passengers to the Indies published by the Archive
> General de las Indias 
> in Seville... Catalago de Pasageros a Indias...
> compiled from Libros de 
> Asientos (Books of Seats) of the Archivo General de
> Indias in Sevilla)
> 
> Anybody have any better ideas, or know if these
> catalogues are indexed 
> electronically anywhere?
> 
> 
> 



		
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Has anyone attempted to find their ancestors' immigration records from 
Spain, i.e. ship passenger lists of immigrants to Mexico, etc.

>From what I have been able to tell, the best bet is the Catalogue of 
Passengers to the Indies published by the Archive General de las Indias 
in Seville... Catalago de Pasageros a Indias... compiled from Libros de 
Asientos (Books of Seats) of the Archivo General de Indias in Sevilla)

Anybody have any better ideas, or know if these catalogues are indexed 
electronically anywhere?

I hope this helps you a bit, someone is submitting your family lines 
to the Familysearch site, I'm including the one for your 
grandparents but I would suggest you go to your nearest LDS history 
center and they will show you there if you can access the records.  
The least that can happen is you can find who is entering your 
family and get together with them for the information you want.

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FRANCISCO Zerega  
  Male   Family 
    

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Event(s): 
 Birth:  03 OCT 1856   Mission De,Santo Domingo, Ensenada, Baja 
California Norte, Mexico 
 
 Christening:  
 Death:  14 SEP 1925    
 
 Burial:  
    

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Marriages: 
  Spouse:  Francisca Arce  Family 
  Marriage:  1874   San Telmo, Ensenada, Baja California Norte, 
Mexico 
 
  

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There is a group of Legazpi in Nochistlan, Zacatecas born in the mid-
1840s.  Unfortunately (and for good reason) familysearch.org does not 
list records after 1900 so your grandparents may not be back far 
enough to start.  If you could find the name of your great-
grandparents that would be the best place to start.

 14. MARIA VRSINA LEGAZPI LOSANO - International Genealogical Index / 
ME
Gender: Female Birth: 14 AUG 1841 
 
 15. MARIA VRSINA LEGAZPI LOSANO - International Genealogical Index / 
ME
Gender: Female Christening: 17 AUG 1841 Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico
 
 16. FELIPE DE JESUS LEGAZPI - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Christening: 19 FEB 1813 Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico
 


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Melania Pezzolla" 
 wrote:
> Hello, my name is Melania, I was  born in Ensenada BC Mx, but have 
> lived in the states since I was 9.  I am researching my 
grandparents, 
> my grandma was Paula Zerega and Granfather was

Hello, my name is Melania, I was  born in Ensenada BC Mx, but have 
lived in the states since I was 9.  I am researching my grandparents, 
my grandma was Paula Zerega and Granfather was Francisco Legaspy. They 
are both from the San Telmo area Baja Calif, but I have learned 
through some research that the names have come from the zacatecas, 
jalisco area/  specially Legazpi (legaspy or legaspi)
  My grandmas parents were francisco Zerega and Francisca Arze 
(arce).  my grandfathers were francisco Legazpi and Amada Cota.  

ok, i have never done this and at the age that i'm at i would like 
to find out more about my roots.my moms' name is maria concepcion 
ortega,my dad whom i never knew,his name was jesus garcia who died in
a 
cave in guadalajara,mexico.I was born in ensenada,b.c.norte.
my grandparents name were from my dads side -pascual garcia &
adelaida 
torres,from tepatitlan,jalisco from my moms' side refugio ortega & 
hermenegilda quesada and i don't know where they are from because
when 
I was born in 1960 they were already dead.can you help me find out
more 
information?

I heard something similar about the Viramontes families in Tlaltenango, 
Zacatecas use to be Miramontes.  Except something to the effect that 
they changed name cause of misunderstanding due to repeated first 
names...

Are you searching Miramontes Family?

- Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, robert hernandez  wrote:
> According to my family oral history/myths and legends . . .in Jalpa, 
Zacatecas . . a segment of the Miramontes family broke away and created 
the Viramontes branch after a dispute over money and resources 
>

Tammy,

Are you still researching your Miramontes family?  How is your progress 
coming along?  Do you know if your father-in-law had a sister named 
Maria Refugio?

Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Tammy Miramontes  wrote:
> 
> Angie, 
> IN reading the list of names that you have searched for, I saw the 
name MIRAMONTES.  That is my last name now.  My father-in-law was from 
Zacatecas.  His parents names were Aurelino & Victoria (magallanes) 
Miramontes.  I believe the ranch they are from is named Los Reales.  
> Just wondering if there is any connection here.
> Tammy