Libros

COmpre hace unos dias los libros La familia Rincón Gallardo y su latifundio de Ciénega de Mata, 1593-1740. Por Jesús Gómez Serrano. Con la colaboración de Francisco Javier Delgado Aguilar y Las Familia mas antiguas de Mexico y los Titulos de Castilla en Indias. Los ordene de Europa, no puedia contrar copias en los EEUU
o Mexico. Estos libros estan "Out of print" y son muy preciados, aun cuando los recibo si alguien quiere un lookup de algo digamelo. Debe llegar en una semana.

Daniel Mendez de Camino

Marcos Masias Valadez = Maria Ruiz de Esparza

Can someone inform me when the two persons in the Subject Line were Married? They are my Maternal 7th Great Grandparents. With the exception of two children, who were born in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, all the rest were born in Aguascalientes. This couple had six children: Joseph, Marcos, Theresa, Felisiana, Maria, and Juan, according to my research.

Thank you.

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

An Introduction from New Member Laurel Anne Hill

Hello,

I am seeking information about the family of my great-grandmother, Hipolita
Orendain de Medina. She was born around 1847 in Mexico, probably in the
Guadalajara area. Her parents were Don Castulo de Jesús Orendain and
Francisca Tejada de Orendain. References in U.S. Census records suggest Don
Castulo de Jesús Orendain was born in Spain and Francisca Tejada was born in
Mexico.

Hipolita's granddaughter, Virginia Turnbull, claimed in writing many years
ago that Don Castulo de Jesús Orendain owned a silver mine. Don Castulo de
Jesús Orendain died somewhere around 1850 or so. Francisca Tejada de
Orendain moved to San Francisco, California with her daughters Hipolita and
Virginia Orendain at some point in the 1850's. Francisca Tejada remarried
in San Francisco. Her second husband, Humphrey Marshall, was a lawyer. When
the Civil War broke out in the United States, Humphrey Marshall travelled to
his home state (probably Virginia or Kentucky) to support the Confederacy. He
died and never returned to California.

Writings by Virginia Turnbull claim that Francisca Tejada de Orendain (when
in California) donated heavily to the war effort against Emperor Maximillian
in Mexico. Other information I gleaned indicated that Hipolita Orendain
helped recruit Mexicans in California during the 1860s to fight for their
home country.

On October 13, 1868, Hipolita married Emigdio Medina, a newspaper editor in
Mexico and California. I have not yet been able to ascertain Emigdio's
birthplace. At one time he was a citizen of Paso del Norte. Hipolita and
Emigdio had at least four daughters: Josephine (California, 1869) Virginia
(Mexico, 1871), Czarina (California, 1873) and Mercedes Carolina
(California, 1876 or 1875). Mercedes was my grandmother. Hipolita and
Emigdio eventually separated. Hipolita lived with one of her daughters, and
died in 1922 in Los Angeles, California.

In 2009, I arranged and financed the translation of letters and journals
residing in the California Historical Society in San Francisco, California.
>From a series of letters sent from Guadalajara to my great-grandmother
Hipolita in San Francisco, I have determined the following information.

Don Castulo de Jesús Orendain (Hipolita's father) had a brother named
Joaquin Orendain and a cousin named Miguel Orendain. They lived in or near
Guadalajara.

Miguel Orendain probably had daughters named Rafaelita and Gabrielita.

Joaquin Orendain married Lucia Mercado. Lucia Mercado de Orendain died on
September 24, either in 1859 or 1861. The couple had ten children. Four of
the daughters were Lucía, Cipriana, Carmen and Antonia, the youngest. There
may have been a fifth daughter, Josefita. One of their sons probably was
Zenon Orendain, who married a woman by the name of Gabrielita. Another son
may have been Luisito Orendain.

There is mention of another cousin of Hipolita Orendain. His name was
Felicio Orendain. Felicio Orendain had a cousin by the name of D. Felix
Mercado. So Felicio may also have been one of the son's of Joaquin Orendain
and Lucia Mercado de Orendain.

Joaquin Orendain had an uncle by the name of Don Luis. D. Luis had children
named Pachita, Miguel, Castulo de Jesus, and Juan. By 1865, Don Luis and
most of his family probably had died. Pachita survived and lived in the
Port of Magdalena. Joaquin Orendain claimed to have little knowledge about
this branch of his family.

An additional cousin of Hipolita Orendain was Micaela* *de Orendain. Micaela
and family were living in San Pedro (near Guadalajara) in 1865.

If anyone could provide me with more information about my Orendain or Tejada
ancestry, I would greatly appreciate it. And I hope that the information I
have found so far will be useful to some of you, as well.

Warm wishes,

Laurel Anne Hill

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18843

matrimonio de Rafael Romo y Maria de la LuzAlonso

Daniel,

Did you receive the scanned Record I e-mailed to you yesterday afternoon?

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
------Original Message------
From: Daniel Mendez de Camino
Sender: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
To: Patty Hoyos
ReplyTo: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] matrimonio de Rafael Romo y Maria de la LuzAlonso
Sent: Jul 15, 2010 7:53 AM

this is cool, you can see Rafael's signature and others.

Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:15:57 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] matrimonio de Rafael Romo y Maria de la Luz Alonso
>
> La informacion que dieron para contraer matrimonio se encuentra en la pagina 149 del libro "informacion matrimonial, 1774
>
> Miguel Beltran

SPAM?

Arturo and Jospeh:

Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re:

I am getting in the heading of messages the word SPAM. Why is that? They seem to be just regular messages from known members of the group.

Also, my computer had a pop-up that said that malicious script was coming in, then I had all these messages from Nuestros Ranchos that I thought I had seen before. Was that related to the SPAM?

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA

Manuel Raphael Romo

Manuel Raphael Romo was married to Maria de la Luz Alonzo on 25 Apr 1774 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico. I searched throughout the digital Family Search. but failed to find their Marrage sacramental record. Is the date in error, perhaps? This couple is my maternal 4th great grandparents.

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Need Help With The Rivera Family

Hello I have not Searched to Much on this Line But i think I am Ready to See where this Line Leaves me at
as Of Now I have
My Great Great Grandfather Margarito Rivera Bugarin Born In Tlaltenango, Zacatecas
Born 15, Feb 1877

His Dad
My GGGreat Grandfather Narsizo Rivera Perez, He was Married to Juliana Bugarin
His Father
My GGGGreat Grandfather Prudencio Vital Rivera, I Think he Was Born In Zacatecas
Married in 13, Nov 1816 with Maria De Jesus Perez
and thats all i have.. if anyone has anymore Info or where can i Find More please do tell me : )

Marina Rendon

I found the Death Record for "Marina Rendon", 09 Dec 1775 in Aguascalentes. She was 54 years of age. Her name is recorded as"Anna". The parents are correct: Bartholome Rendon and Maria Macias Valades. The Record indicates that she was the Widow of Christobal de Santos y Busto. If it is the same "Marina/Anna", my information was that she married to Eusebio de Maya y Rebollar. Any ideas are welcome.

Romos- Research Digest, Vol 54, Issue 10

Alexis,

I am also researching the Romos from Encarnacion. I link to Santo Toribio through his mother's line (Gtz). Since I also have Romo in my ancestry, as well as have cousins whose father was Romo via both of his parents. Their father ties to my Romos via his maternal line--via his paternal line, I have suspected that they link to Santo Toribio's fathers line due to the Encarnacion connection. Would you be willing to share off line what we have? My cousins were always told that their father's paternal line was from SLP, but I am discovering otherwise. My cousins also resemble Santo Toribio and his father.

Thanks,
Irma Gomez Gtz
N. California

4. Romo Line- Encarnacion De Diaz (alexisvillagrana@yahoo.com)
5. Romos of Encarnacion & told of connection w/ Santo Toribio
Romo (alexisvillagrana@yahoo.com)

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 00:56:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: alexisvillagrana@yahoo.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo Line- Encarnacion De Diaz
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Alexis Villagrana I have some information on the Romo line which I have not yet posted. I have been away in mourning (I lost my brother) & just barely getting a chance to read these posts!

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:08:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: alexisvillagrana@yahoo.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romos of Encarnacion & told of connection
w/ Santo Toribio Romo
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I may have some information. I have not yet posted everything on here. My mother's family are the Romo's of Encarnacion and so far have gone back to 1810 & found that I'm still able to go back further but had to stop due to a death in my family. I saw a connection to a Toribio Romo in our family tree. Also, it has been told in our family, that this relative of ours was a Saint with their own shrine located near Encarnacion; I need to go through my files in storage & will post back...This may take awhile so bear with me!

My Brick Wall

I was wondering if anyone has any info on this couple or family. I believe that my 5th g-grandfather Francisco Sotomayor was their son. His marriage record to Anna Gertrudis Mendez showed his parents as Diego Soto and Maria Lorensa Peres ..... also he used several surnames on various family documents - always paired with Anna Gertrudis Mendez - these were Soto, Sala y Sotomayor, Salas. Coincidence? Maybe - but it deserves some investigation.

Quisiera saber si alguien tiene algunos datos sobre esta pareja. Sospecho que mi 5 bisabuelo Francisco Sotomayor fue su hijo. La partida del matrimonio de mi 5 bisabuelo con Anna Gertrudis Mendez estan como padres Diego Soto y Maria Lorensa Peres .... y en otros documentos el uso various apellidos - siempre con Anna Gertrudis Mendez - fueron Soto, Sala y Sotomayor, Salas. Es muy possible que sea una simple coincidencia pero merece mas investigacion.

Diego Tristan de Velasco Orive Salazar Y Sotomayor

Maria Lorensa Peres de la Bastida y Villareal

Married 13 Jul 1693 Asuncion, Mexico, Distrito Federal, Mexico

Batch M619651

Thanks in advance

-Angelina-

Research Digest, Vol 53, Issue 26

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Angelina, it sounds very interesting. You may want to contact them in advance and tell them that you are coming. This way they can have it paged for you. Some of this appears to be microfilm too. Often you have to request them to make the copies. They will not allow you to do this yourself because it has to be handled very carefully. Please let us know what you find. Many Ranchos members link to these families. I link to the Padillas.

Good luck,

Irma Gomez Gtz
N. Calif.

Message: 3
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:53:09 -0700
From: "Angelina Markle"
To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Genealogical records from Nueva Galicia
(Mexico), 1537-1777.
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Hello,

Has anyone seen this book? I was wondering if it was worth taking a drive up to Berkley - it appears to be the only library that has it. Sounds interesting but I've been burned so many times with books that I wanted to see if I could get some input first.
Genealogical records from Nueva Galicia (Mexico), 1537-1777.

Card catalogue description: Collection of genealogical documents (originals and certified copies) concerning interrelated families of Nueva Galicia-notably the Flores, de la Torre, Alvarado,Contreras, Angulo, Figueroa, Padilla, Ba?uelos, and O?ate families. Composed principally of files on genealogical inquiries conducted by the Audiencia of Guadalajara or lesser local tribunals at the request of petitioners Jos? and Nicol?s Flores de la Torre, Archdean Diego Flores de Latorre, Presbyter Luis G?mez de Alvarado, and others, who claimed kinship with such noted conquistadors as Pedro de Alvarado, Hern?n Flores, Diego P?rez de la Torre (successor of Nu?o de Guzm?n), andFrancisco de Figueroa. With two appended genealogical reports, one prepared by the Precentor of the Guadalajara Cathedral on certain Juchipila families and the other on the Flores, de la Torre, and Gonz?lez families, compiled by the Inquisition and a university official, Dr. Vicente Ignacio Pe?a Brizuela, at the r
equest of Vicente Flores de la Torre y Gonz?lez. Contains petitions, questionnaires, testimony, texts of royal decrees, viceregal or judicial orders, powers of attorney, certifications, related material, and two colored coats of arms.

Thanks,

-Angelina-

Santibanes

Dear Group,
I think I've just been thrown another interesting curve on my genealogical road...
I know to research B/Valderrama, Rubio/Ruvio, etc.  However,
Are the last names Santibanes and Ibanes/Ybanes interchangable?  
Thanks so much,   Alice

Reveles in Jerez de Garcia Salinas

Using the Family History pilot site [I haven't checked the microfilm yet],
I found Miguel Reveles born Sep 29, 1896, and baptized in Parroquia de la
Inmaculada Concepción, Jerez de Garcia Salinas. His parents were Timoteo
Reveles and Teresa Huizar. He immigrated to the US in 1915 and lived in Los
Angeles.

Does anyone recognize these names?

Thanks.
Brenda

Genealogical Conference in Houston

>
> The Houston Hispanic Genealogical Society is having a State Convention
> on September 24, 25, 26 2010. The conference will be held at the
> Hobby Hilton Hotel which is across the street from the Hobby Airport.
> Speakers and a bus trip are in the line up. Hotel rates are reduced
> so please register from this website. http://www.hispanicgs.org/houston/
> Jose Guerra
> President
>

Hernando Martel

If anyone has Martel or would be interested in communicating with this
person please email him directly:

Estimados señores: Soy vecino del barrio de Triana de Sevilla (España) y
estoy muy interesado en todo cuanto se relaciones con él. Buscando
barrios de Triana en otras geografías me topé con el de Lagos, con la
cofradía de San Felipe de Jesús fundada por mestizos, con datos de este
santo apellidado de las Casas (el famoso Bartolomé de las Casas nació mi
Triana) y, finalmente, con el nombre de Hernando Martel, fundador de
Lagos... Desconocía la existencia de este santo con apellido trianero y
la coincidencia de que su capilla se levantara en el citado barrio de
Triana de la citada villa azteca.
Me gustaría saber datos sobre el barrio y sobre Hernando Martel que, por
sevillano, podría tener relación con mi Triana.
Con gracias anticipadas les saludo muy afectuosamente.
Mi dirección de correo electrónico es angelvelanieto@hotmail.es

Gonzalez Guerra ó Guerra Gonzalez en Lagos de Moreno

Hola,
Necesito ayuda para encontrar a mis ancestros, alguien tiene información sobre los Guerra de Lagos de Moreno o Union de San Antonio?

He logrado rastrear desde mi tataraabuelo Salvador Gonzalez Guerra nacido 21 de octubre 1845, hijo de Jose Epifanio Gonzalez y Ana Antonia Guerra casados alrededor de 1844.
Epifanio Gonzalez, hijo de Rafael Gonzalez y Cesarea Moreno casados en 1784
Ana Antonia Guerra, hija de Santiago Guerra y Juana Gertrudis Guerra
Santiago Guerra, bautismo 14 de mayo 1780, hijo de Diego Guerra y Trinidad Gonzalez.
Juana Gertrudis Guerra, hija de Juan Antonio Guerra y Maria de San Jose Gonzalez

Alguien me podría ayudar por favor con mas sobre los Guerra y los Gonzalez de esta rama que parece ser se entrecruzo varias veces.

Muchas Gracias

Diego Romo de Vivar

Tengo una inquietud en cuanto al genearca del apellido "Romo de Vivar", Diego, esposo de María Rangel...

Creo que todos tomamos como un hecho que se trata del mismo Diego el esposo de Maria Rangel y el Diego Romo del que Mariano Gonzalez-Leal localizo partida de bautismo en Rielves, Toledo, España, de fecha 12 de marzo de 1589, hijo de Diego Romo y Catalina Perez.
Desconozco si existe algun documento que pruebe que es la misma persona. Me gustarìa saber si existe prueba de ello.
¿Alguien del grupo conoce en que se basó un genealogista tan serio y reconocido como lo es don Mariano para hacer dicha afirmación?

Navarro Gaytan, Alvarez del Castillo and Asencio de Leon

Does anyone know the patriarchs or early information
of these families mentioned above? I have Juan Asencio Ponce
de Leon as the earliest 1600, and have the three Isabel Alvarez
del Castillo each namesakes, 1550, 1575, 1600 and a Juan Alvarez
del Castillo 1600. Not sure how theyre related to this Juan?
And im so confused about the Navarro Gaytan family in the 1500s-1600s.

Thanks,
Daniel

Libro "Bautismos, matrimonios y defunciones en el primer siglo de Santa Maria de Los Lagos"- Mario Gomez

Si a alguno de ustedes le interesa comprar este libro, que contiene todos los registros sacramentales de la villa de Lagos hasta el año en que cumple una centuria de fundada, ademas de importantes anotaciones, se los puedo conseguir;contactenme.
_______________________________________________________________________

If any of you are interested in this book, which contains all the sacramental records of the town of Lagos until it reaches a century after its foundation, in addition to important notes, I can get. contact me

Librerias en Guadalajara/ Bookstores in Guadalajara

Miembros de Nuestros Ranchos,

Voy estar en Guadalajara en Agosto y quisiera saber cuales son algunas librerias donde podre encontrar buenos libros sobre historia Mexicana y genealogia. Busco por libros nuevos o tambien usudados.

Gracias

Sergio

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Nuestros Ranchos' Members,

I will be in Guadalajara during August and would like to know which bookstores have books on Mexican history and books on genealogy. Looking for new or used/out of print books.

Thanks,

Sergio

Maria Ignacia Alonzo

Maria Ignacia Alonzo was the mother of Andres Alonzo; his father is not named in the documents I've found. Andres married Maria Josefa Teresa de Jesus Sandoval, 8 Jan 1810 (Aguascalientes), and according to the marriage records (marriage certificate and matrimonial investigation) was born about 1789, in Aguascalientes. The matrimonial investigation names only his mother and not his father.

I have not been able to find a baptismal record for Andres.

There is a baptismal record for a Maria Ignacia Alonzo, 23 May 1768, Aguascalientes. Which suggests she could be the mother of Andres, but this is only circumstantial.

I have not found a death or burial record for Maria Ignacia, but she died prior to Andres's marriage in 1810.

Does anyone have information that proves the link, or provides other evidence that Maria Ignacia, baptized in 1768, may be Andres's mother?

George Fulton

Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria Rafaela ROMO

I am researching the above referenced family. They are my maternal (PENA) 3rd GG's. Joseph Andres was born 30 Nov 1771 in Estanzuela, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, MX. They were married 10 Feb 1802 in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, MX. I have discovered six children:

l. Joseph Prudencio, Bap. 21 Nov 1802 Encarnacion de Diaz
2. Maria de la Ascencion = Pablo Gonzales, Bap.(Maria) 28 May 1805 Encarnacion 3. Juan Jose, Bap. 28 Jun 1807 Estanzuela, Aguascalientes
4. Jose Ynes, 03 May 1815 Encarnacion de Diaz
5. Similiano Alonzo, 13 Jan 1818 Encarnacion de Diaz
6. Jose Quirino = Petra de la Paz Bap. (Jose Q.) 11 Jan 1823 Encarnacion de Diaz

Any sharing of infomation regarding this Familia would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, CA