12 de Diciembre 2010

Sera la 5iza reunion de los Preciado Arana

Se llevara a cabo en California si estas interesado
o eres hijo o hija  reconocido (a)o no reconocido(a)
y tienes deseos de conocer a la familia y saludarnos
te esperamos.

Hijos de Lucio Preciado Ramirez y Crescencia
Arana Perez

Ricardo
Consuelo
Miguel
Ramon
Rosa
Olivia
Juan

TODOS ORIGINARIOS DE TECOLOTLAN, JALISCO

Nicolás Ochoa-Garibay, esposo de Juana Ortiz de Zárate.

Quisiera saber si alguien de los compañeros del grupo en tiene información acerca de Nicolás Ochoa Garibay, casado que fuera con Juana Ortiz de Zárate, el 1 de sept de 1669 en Ocotlán, Jal, con quien tuvo por hijos al menos a :
1.- Jacinto, casado que fué el 4 de febrero de 1705 en Tepatitlán con Maria Gómez de Mendoza y González de Hermosillo, hija de Esteban Gómez de Mendoza y Ana María Gónzalez de Hermosillo
2.- María, bautizada el 22 dic 1667 en Ocotlán, de quien no tengo más detalles.
3.-Josefa, casada el 20 de mayo de 1697 en Tepatitlán con José Gonzalez de Hermosillo, hijo de Melchor González de Hemosillo y de Nicolasa Contreras
4.-Juan, Casado que fué el 29 de mayo de 1695 en Ocotlán con Leonor Gonzalez de Hermosillo, hija de Pedro Navarro-Gaytán y Cabrera y de Catalina Gonzalez de Hermosillo
5.-Cecilia, quien fe esposa de Pedro de Velasco desde que casaron en Ocotlán, el 9 de febrero de 1691

Cualquier dato de Nicolás Ochoa o de Juana Ortiz de Zárate, se los agradezco...

Miguel Beltrán.

31st Annual Texas State Hispanic Genealogical & Historical Conference

If the length in the subject line was too long, it is: "31st Annual Texas State Hispanic Genealogical & Historical Conference". The conference is being held at the Hilton Houston Hobby Airport, September 24-26. This is my first such conference to attend and hope there is a good turnout!
Raymond Medrano

Joseph Mária Hurtado de Mendoza y Matiana Moreno

Hola de nuevo a todos, alguien de aquí del foro sabe quienes fueron los padres de Joseph Maria Hurtado de Mendoza y los de Matiana Moreno??

Ellos de casaron en Lagos de Moreno el 12 de agosto de 1777, entre sus hijos tuvieron a Mária Rafaela Hurtado Moreno, quien a su vez se caso en el 23 de noviembre de 1802 también en Lagos de Moreno con Jóse Rafael Sánchez (del cual igualmente desconozco su ascendencia).

A su vez, esta pareja tuvo por hija a Luisa Sánchez Hurtado casado con Juan Pablo González de Hermosillo Martín de Sotomayor el 2 de febrero de 1825 teniendo como hijo a Cenobio González Sánchez.

Agradecería mucho su ayuda

Atte.
Miguel González de Hermosillo Ramírez

New member Intro

Hello everyone, my name is Lisa and I started my research about 3 years ago. I am researching Melendres and Covarrubias from Tlalttenango and Atolinga Zac. My GGrandfather is Genaro Melendres b. 1877 in Rancho Grande and GGrandmother is Raphaela Covarrubias b.abt 1890. They traveled to New Mexico and had my grandfather Gregorio, his brother Ramon and sister Maria. They continued on to San Jose, Az in 1932 where they lived out there life. I have not found anything on Rahpaela regarding baptismal records and such, but do know her parents are Doroteo Covarrubias and Estefana Herrera. Other surnames are Gomes, Escovedo, Montero, Correa, Perez, Magallanes and the list is getting longer. I would like to know anything about them or their life if anyone knows of stories, or possibly a relative. Very anxious and excited to see where this line leaves me at. Would greatly appreciate any help.

Many thanks,

Lisa

different name meaning the same?

to the group:

In my research I am confused about my gmother's name. In her Bap. it reads Teodora. In her church record it reads Maria Dolores. In different bap. records of her gkids it either or, Is Teodora the same as Maria Dolores is my question? Also there is mention about the 117 families sent to los Altos to colonize the area, in the forum posting recently,can one tell me where I could buy books or articles on the subject.

Also what about misspelled names on Familysearch.org, how to correct. Appreciate any info.

Update Correction - Jose Fernando Perez' Spouse

Attn: Deena Ortiz and Charles Clark

Deena and Charles,

I finally have located information on Andrea Andrade Perez. Though Andrea was noted on the 1920 & 1930 Fed Census as being Fernando's spouse, I was lead to believe that Andrea was the nickname for Hilaria... and that Maria Hilaria was Fernando's wife. That is the information that I shared with you both. Hilaria is actually Andrea'a sister.

On Andrea's death certificate that I recently obtained from Westwood CA, she is listed as the spouse of Fernando Perez. I have updated this new found information to my GEDCOM file for Maria Andrea Andrade.

Sorry for the confusion that this error may have caused.

Thank you both for all your help...

Pat Silva Corbera
Tracy CA

Updated Enriquez-Romo & Gutierrez-Gutierrez ancestry

Hello primos y primas,

A special thanks to so many of you who have guided me over the past year! It's because of you that I have been able to see my family tree bloom! I recently obtained my mtDNA results and have discovered my maternal ancestors are Haplogroup H1. I've updated my paternal and maternal ancestry with a focus on my maternal line. This is all so very exciting! Now, I'm looking for my gggggggreat grandmother's parents. My maternal line is at a roadblock with Isabel (Ysabel)de Calderon Orozco who married Diego Delgadillo. Do you have the key to unlock the mystery? Thank you very much!

Hola primos y Primas,

Gracias a todos ustedes que me han guiado en el último año!
Un agradecimiento especial a ustedes que me han guiado durante todo el año pasado! Recientemente he obtenido los resultados de mi mtDNA y descubrí que mis antepasados maternos son haplogrupo H1. He actualizado mi ascendencia paterna y materna con un enfoque en mi línea materna. Todo esto es tan emocionante! Ahora, estoy buscando a los padres de mi abuelita. Mi línea materna es en una barricada con Isabel (Ysabel) de Calderón Orozco, quien se casó con Diego Delgadillo. ¿Tiene la llave para abrir el misterio? Muchas gracias!

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18997

besitos
Rosa

"Archivo de la Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara" Luz Montejano's book

Hola,
Hay alguien por ahi que tenga ese libro a la mano? .
Tengo varios datos que me gustaría consultar en la mitra de Guadalajara,
espero me puedan ayudar.

-Dispensa matrimonial de Abundio Medina Peña y Maria Josefa Michel agosto de
1806
-Alguna información de:
Juan Bautista Castelazo Díaz. Alrededor de 1840-1870
Petra Enciso Ahumada
Juan Enciso Gerardo
-
Muchas Gracias.

Patricia Haro

Alfonsa/Aldonca de Villasenor y Davalos

This is in reply to Daniel Mendez del Camino's post:

I have an Alfonsa Villasenor y Davalos married to Juan Dosal de Lamadrid, Teniente General de la Sierra de Tepeji y Sombrete, Alcalde Mayor de Charcas. Her parents were Diego Lopes de Saavedra and Francisca Fernandez de Hijar- through her materal line she descends from the Conquistador, Juan Fernandez de Hijar. The Fernandez de Hijar family are descendientes varonia del Rey don Jaime de Aragon. Through her paternal line she descends from Isabel de Alvarado, niece of Adelandado Pedro de Alvarado, also a Conquistador. Could this be the same person married a first or second time?

kind regards,

Christopher Barrios de Leon

Oviedo surname in Teúl de González Ortega, Zac. (And links to Campos, Robles, Munos, Vasquez, Correa, Arellano, etc.)

Hello! Over the last year I have been searching for ancestors from my many lines that go into the 1700's... I recently found an ancestor with the surname 'Oviedo' (written "Obiedo" in the IGI many times over; However, I will write it with a 'v')... I've been looking around, but there doesn't seem to be many 'Oviedo' lines in other researchers surname lists... Has anyone heard of this surname, or possibly stumbled upon it in your family research? It's odd to me that it has been in the area for a long time, as many others have, yet it isn't absolutely everywhere!

My last known ancestor (as of yet!) with this surname was Francisco Xavier De Oviedo, who was married to Maria Rosalia De Campos (most likely in the 1760s) in Teúl de González Ortega, Zacatecas. Their daughter, Maria Eusebia De Oviedo married Joaquin De Robles (parents: Juan Maria De Robles & Maria Josefa Gutierres) and had, among other children, Jose Ciriaco Robles Oviedo (b. 17 Jun 1809 in Teúl de González Ortega).

Jose Ciriaco in turn married Desideria Munos and had Maria de la Cruz Robles (and other children mostly circa 1830s)... which brings me down to a more "touchable" generation (Still about 150 years away, haha!): This all comes through my paternal grandmother's paternal grandmother, Nicolaza Vasquez y Robles (Maria de la Cruz's daughter) who married Ramon Correa y Arellano. All of their children (including my grandmother's father, Leopoldo Correa y Vasquez, b.1898) were born at Rancho Los Robles, which I believe is in the outskirts of the town of Huitzila in Teúl de González Ortega (where my grandmother María de Jesús Correa Uribe was born circa 1925 - But I still cannot find her birth record!).

I apologize for the information overload and many run-on sentences! I know my main question is about my Oviedo ancestors, but I thought I'd kill a couple birds with one stone. Maybe someone will see something that catches their eye... Thank You!

Michael D. Castro

Luis Antonio Lozano Romo de Vivar Macias Valadez

I can't find this person's baptism in the images available online. Is there someone that can help or already have info on him?
No encuentro la imagen del bautismo de esta persona. ¿Hay alquien que la puede localizar o proporcionar datos de el y sus ancestros?

Name: Luiz Antonio Lozano Romo
Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Sep 1758
Baptism/Christening Place: EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO
Father's Name: Joseph Luziano Lozano
Mother's Name: Michaela Romo
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60484-3
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
Source Film Number: 299532
Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950

Su mamá es Antonia Michaela Romo de Vivar hija de Miguel Romo de Vivar y Ana Macias Valadez del Sauz de Macias.

Se casó el 25 de noviembre 1789 en Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, México con Margarita Reyes Luévano (Padres : Miguel de los Reyes y Josefa Luévano)
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…

Armando

New member intro

Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Connie and I am starting my work on my family in Lagos de Moreno Jalisco, not sure how to go about this and will appreciate any and all help and advice. my GGGG grandfather Juan De Dios Velasques b. abt 1806 Married Marcela Cervantes b. abt 1806 in Santa Maria De Los Lagos on 30 Aug 1826.
Thank You for any information on where and how to start my search in Mexico.

MTDNA response- Research Digest, Vol 56, Issue 10

Jaime,
Yes, I relieve it was you that sent me an e mail guiding me through the
process.
I guess my reply did not make it to you, but thanks again for your help, I
was able to input the information successfully.

Gilbert Paez

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1. MTDNA entry from GeneTree results to the Sorenson database
(jgonzale@cisco.com)

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:25:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: jgonzale@cisco.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] MTDNA entry from GeneTree results to the
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Hi Gilbert, Did you ever get your answer? I recently got back on Nuestros
Ranchos and started going thru the Forum. I noticed there was no response to
you. I know its been a while since you question. FYI, I had both my y-DNA
and mtDNA done with Genetree. -Jaime

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1863 Assistance with Baptismal interpretation Please, -- Ayuda leyendo Los Abelos Paternos del Bautismo , Por Favor

here is the path to the document in Juarez, Chihuahua, bautismos 1863 Volume 19 page no. 59.
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this is the link to the image

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#w=0&p=waypoint&s=…
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oh the lds pilot site go to Catholic Church Redords (Estado) Chihuahua >> (ciudad) Juarez >>>> ( Iglesia ) Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe ( record date ) >>> 1861-1866, 1872 >>>> ( Image number ) 34 of 85 total images .

ON the right hand side of the page, the last entry for Enero THE BAUTISMO FOR POLICARPIO SERNA JAN 31 1863
HERE IS MY READING PLEASE MAKE ANY SUBMISSION ESPECIALLY THE ABUELA PATERNA

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On 31 ***** Baptized ********** a Poicarpio of 3 days .. ( h.l. means Hijo Legitimo ) the legitimate son of Juan Serna and Jacinta Alvillar . Abulos Pater nos ( pater nal Grandparents ) J. Man Serna and Manuela Monsa***** : (M. means Abuelos Mater nos Maternal Grandarents ) Trindad Avillar and Francisa Fuentes and advertising their obligation and parental duties ( as godparents ) are [ Francisco Montes ] and Refugio *******

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I am helping this person who contacted me via the internet asking for assistance. This is her Original e mail to me and the info she provided me

Hi David,

I dont know if you can help me, but I thought I would give it a try. My gg grandfather is Policarpio Serna born in 1863 not sure where he was born, but was baptized in Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico, and married Nicolasa Garcia. Policarpo's parents are Juan Serna and Jacinta Alvillar. I have searched on Familysearch.org and have not found any records for them, needless to say I am at a road block. Policarpo had two Brothers Santos and Marcial, I could not find anything of them in Mexico either. Census records say they were born in Texas, but I do'nt believe them. I have found
alot of errors on them especially for those who didnt speak english.

I am hoping your family could some how be tied in.

Thank you,

Lisa

MTDNA entry from GeneTree results to the Sorenson database

I received my MTDNA results from GeneTree and I don't know what data to enter in the Sorenson database to look for matches. Can any one give me a hand with this? I would really appreciate it.
My Haplogroup is B2 and the results are as follows.

location 16182 16183 16189 16217 16274 16519 73 263 315.1 334 499
your sequence C C C C A C G G C C A
reference A A T T G T A A -- T G

Thanks
Gilbert

Forum Removal: Fwd: Elsbeth Hlsmann

I have removed this persons membership from access to the forums until
we can sort this out. It appears as if her address was hijacked by a
spammer.

joseph

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corinne miquelot

Busco informacion de las familias Hurtado- Vallejo y Pérez-de Alba SALUDOS DESDE JALOSTOTITLÁN, JALISCO

Que tal? soy Raúl Hurtado Pérez, oriundo de la ciudad de México pero toda mi familia es de Jalostotitlán, Jalisco. Tengo varios años tras la pista de mis antepasados y la verdad es que encontrado algunos dato pero me encantaría saber si alguno de ustedes tiene más información al respecto. Mis familias son Hurtado, Vallejo, pérez y De Alba principalmente.

Entre mis antepasados por parte de los hurtado y vallejo se encuentran Anselmo Hurtado Romo, Petra Gutierrez jimenez, jacinto Hurtado gonzalez, Jose maria pioquinto hurtado, jose pedro de hurtado, dorotea romo jimenez, severiano gutierrez, maria felicitas jimenez robledo, luis jimenez y josefa robledo. además leonardo vallejo casillas y felipa mercado gutierrez, jose carmen mercado reynoso y teresa gutierrez, silverio vallejo jimenez y juliana casillas cruz, felipe vallejo y canuta jimenez, pantaleon casillas santacruz y silveria cruz villalpando, mariano vallejo reynoso y maria dolores ignacia ramirez alvarez, jose manuel vallejo alvarez y dominga reynoso, carlos casillas y antonia santacruz, mariano cruz y jesus villalpando, ignacio bartolo ramirez alvarez y maria guadalupe alvarez, antonio justo vallejo de herrera y maria feliciana alvarez tostado, lucas vallejo coldivar y thomasina de herrera, joseph vallejo martin y sra.coldivar, antonia de vallejo y clara martin. por lo que he escuchado e investigado la rama de los hurtado vienen de San miguel el Alto y los vallejo de el Valle de Guadalupe. la familia hurtado vallejo se dio origen en los ranchos de cerro colorado, monte largo, el potrero del burro, etc, entre Jalos y El valle de guadalupe

Port la rama de los perez y de alba se encuentran bruno perez de alba y juana perez cornejo, reyes perez jimenez y donaciana de alba de rueda, francisco perez y luz jimenez, miguel de rueda y maria gomez, feliciano perez ornelas y maria praxedis cornejo, patricio cornejo y lucia enriquez y epifanio perez y felipa hernandez. por lo que he escuchado e investigado la rama de los perez son de jalos o de teocaltiche y los de alba de san juan de los lagos. la familia perez de Alba se dio origen en los ranchos de la estancia, santa isabel las tortugas, etc, entre Jalos y teocaltiche.

Espero que alguien me pudiera proporcionar informacion al respecto

gracias

Raúl Hurtado Pérez

Saludos a todos los usuarios de Nuestros Ranchos, saludos desde Jalostotitlán, Jalisco

Que tal? soy Raúl Hurtado Pérez, oriundo de la ciudad de México pero toda mi familia es de Jalostotitlán, Jalisco. Tengo varios años tras la pista de mis antepasados y la verdad es que encontrado algunos dato pero me encantaría saber si alguno de ustedes tiene más información al respecto. Mis familias son Hurtado, Vallejo, pérez y De Alba principalmente.

Entre mis antepasados por parte de los hurtado y vallejo se encuentran Anselmo Hurtado Romo, Petra Gutierrez jimenez, jacinto Hurtado gonzalez, Jose maria pioquinto hurtado, jose pedro de hurtado, dorotea romo jimenez, severiano gutierrez, maria felicitas jimenez robledo, luis jimenez y josefa robledo. además leonardo vallejo casillas y felipa mercado gutierrez, jose carmen mercado reynoso y teresa gutierrez, silverio vallejo jimenez y juliana casillas cruz, felipe vallejo y canuta jimenez, pantaleon casillas santacruz y silveria cruz villalpando, mariano vallejo reynoso y maria dolores ignacia ramirez alvarez, jose manuel vallejo alvarez y dominga reynoso, carlos casillas y antonia santacruz, mariano cruz y jesus villalpando, ignacio bartolo ramirez alvarez y maria guadalupe alvarez, antonio justo vallejo de herrera y maria feliciana alvarez tostado, lucas vallejo coldivar y thomasina de herrera, joseph vallejo martin y sra.coldivar, antonia de vallejo y clara martin. por lo que he escuchado e investigado la rama de los hurtado vienen de San miguel el Alto y los vallejo de el Valle de Guadalupe. la familia hurtado vallejo se dio origen en los ranchos de cerro colorado, monte largo, el potrero del burro, etc, entre Jalos y El valle de guadalupe

Port la rama de los perez y de alba se encuentran bruno perez de alba y juana perez cornejo, reyes perez jimenez y donaciana de alba de rueda, francisco perez y luz jimenez, miguel de rueda y maria gomez, feliciano perez ornelas y maria praxedis cornejo, patricio cornejo y lucia enriquez y epifanio perez y felipa hernandez. por lo que he escuchado e investigado la rama de los perez son de jalos o de teocaltiche y los de alba de san juan de los lagos. la familia perez de Alba se dio origen en los ranchos de la estancia, santa isabel las tortugas, etc, entre Jalos y teocaltiche.

Espero que alguien me pudiera proporcionar informacion al respecto

gracias

Raúl Hurtado Pérez