I created a folder by mistake earlier. Please disregard my earlier information about node 18110. This file was deleted.
I have put some new information into my folder on the De La Torre's. Here is the address:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15147
Maureen Bejar
I have some significant happenings in my family in 1793 with my GGGG
grandparents Justo Puente and Josefa Sanchez being married in Sombrerete
and also my twin GGG grandfathers both named Jose Tadeo Diaz being born
in Sauz de Los Marquez. So awhile back I went to the local Coin store
and had the guy go to the next coin show and purchase me a 1/2 real very
small silver coin dating 1793 for $30. Unfortunately the date is so worn
that you can just tell that it is 1793. So I have had him hunting for a
better coin from that date but his report to me is that that particular
date is hard to come by BUT there are plenty of excellent condition
coins in the period from 1794-1799 in the 8 Real denomination minted in
Mexico.
I have no financial interest in this just though I'd let folks know that
for between $80-$125 range you can get an 8 Real Coin in good shape in
the 1794-1799 time period minted in Mexico. If you have a local coin
dealer you trust have him/her look into it or let me know and I'll put
you in touch with my coin dealer who says he can get them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_dollar
joseph
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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)
I have noticed that some members of the group spell México with a J, ie. Méjico.
For exmaple in Daniel's message from about a year ago he wrote:
Once you reach Manuel's grandfather who ever he may have been you will connecto to all of us in someway, youll go back so far in your genealogy 1500-1600, and given the right line back to the Kings of Spain and princes of Europe, I connect to royalty thanks to my Spanish, Portuguese and German ancestry. Its a good feeling knowing where you come from but the best is for the perservation for future generations. Since you have alteño ancestors, you're full spanish i suppose, until we can get further possibly italian, portugues, french and others who arrived in Méjico. -Daniel
I was just wondering about the politics/tradition/meaning behind the use of such a spelling and would appreciate any comments.
I'm in the "planning" stage of painting a series of my beloved braceros.
I already have several already painted in my mind's eye.
In the 1960s I worked side-by-side with them, listened to their songs of Mexico, sweated as they did, and hurt (as they did) with them.
I know the "meaning of life" because I was one with them.
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ANTONIO LEONICIO CABRAL Pedigree
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Event(s):
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Marriages:
Spouse: ANNA DE SANTIAGO Family
Marriage: 10 FEB 1777 Huejucar, Jalisco, Mexico
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M602985 1771 - 1834 0445146 Film NONE
Sheet: 00
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LEONICIO ANTONIO CABRAL Pedigree
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Christening: 10 JUL 1757 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
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Father: JUAN DE LA CONCEPCION Family
Mother: LORENZA DE LA TRINIDAD
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C602863 1755 - 1768 0443673 Film
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MARIA DE JESUS CABRAL SOLIZ Pedigree
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Spouse: FRANCO. MENDOZA Family
Marriage: 27 MAY 1818 Huejucar, Jalisco, Mexico
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Hello to all!
I just got back from Guadalajara. I was not able to attend the Valle de Guadalupe meeting because my uncle was very ill so I went straight to Guadalajara. Not all was lost. He told me that my GGGG Grandfather, Calisto Samaniego born around 1820, probably in Juchipila, was a priest that left the priesthood to marry/be with Lina Salazar, my GGGG Grandmother. I descend from his son Jesus Samaniego and Cayetana Castaneda. Any idea on how I can get started solving this mystery? I can't find any other info on him/Lina.
Thanks!
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Hola a todos!
Acabo de llegar de Guadalajara. No pude atender la reunion en Valle de Gpe porque mi Tio estaba muy enfermo y tuve que irme directo a Guadalajara... pero no todo esta perdido. El me dijo que mi 4o bisabuelo Calisto Samaniego, nacido alrededor del 1820, probablemente en Juchipila, fue un sacerdote que abandono la iglesia para casarse/estar con Lina Salazar, mi 4a bisabuela. Yo desciendo de su hijo Jesus Samaniego y Cayetana Castaneda. Alguien tiene una idea de como puedo confirmar este misterio? No he podido encontrar mas informacion acerca de el o de Lina.
Gracias de antemano!
Sandra Gómez Mendoza
San Antonio, TX
It happend I didn´t check such post before today! I also descend from Garnica.
Pablo De Los Dolores De Leon (or Cos Y Leon)Aguirre (Ayotlán, Jal. b. 1743)
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.:
C602839 1726 - 1749 0280670
He married María De Jesus Garnica Rizo, daugther to Nicolás Antonio Castro Y Garnica De Leon and Maria Antonia Rizo Vanegas (Banegas)
Thank you Steven, I just read your post and the whole history it contains, I need to read carefully again to understand the lineage trace. If you want I can send you my PAF copy, I am having trouble getting my paf to make a copy or ananthafel to a carpet but I know I can send my whole paf. There is also a gedcom of mine in the site of nuestrosranchos in case you want to check it.
I guess we are cousins in some way, I also have a copy of an old picture of a lady by the name María Garnica who was married to Eufemio Leon Flores, a half brother to my ggfather Nicolas Leon Jaime, born in 1871 in Jesús María, Jal.
I have a full hand of information and still don´t know what to do with it or where to place it because most of all am happy, think first I have to dance. Thank You again.
Leticia Leon Morales
Hi everyone,
We have started indexing for the State of Jalisco, starting with Acatlan de Juarez, specifically Los Pozos. If anyone would like me to look out for names from this location please get back to me. I can only download 5 badges at a time, as I am sure there will be many others doing Jalisco.
-Esther Jordan Lopez
Hola , busco informacion de familias de la torre en tepatitlan, si alguien conose algunas familias de alla, por fabor contactarme,. gracias
To Linda Romero and Enrique De La Torre
I have uploaded my Excel File for De La Torre research. Please see link below:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18110
I create these spreadsheets, then link the families together as I go through each film. As you notice I have not done much research on the De La Torre line, so there are many orphan records. In most cases I have a hard copy of the records listed. If you need one, I will scan it to you. These deal mainly with the De La Torre's in Tepatitlan.
Maureen
I was wondering if anyone who can read Spanish help me out on something?
I am looking at the Informacion Matrimonial films and doing an extraction of my ancestors. I have come across the film 1739 at the Family Search Pilot site and what is listed are not marriages but are list of daughters and their parents....about image 15 starts with Asientos and now I'm at image 43 which appears to list daughters from Lagos. I have never seen anything like this before in all the records I've ever looked at, and it's been too numerous to count.
I hope you can help me solve this mystery.....my research colleague is out of town with no access to the internet.
Thank you
Rose
Fresno
Ok I need help from the group. Can anyone help me find my grandfather
Antonio Cortez Hernandez....born in Matansas Jalisco the year 1909. His parents were Jose Refugio Cortez and Alejandra Hernandez.
I am also looking for my grandmother Ma Manuela Alvarado Ortiz born in 1913 also in Matansas Jalisco. Her parents were Lorenso Alvarado and Francisca Ortiz.
Antonio Cortez Hernandez was married to Ma Manuela Alvardo Ortiz.
I also have one more question. Can anyone give me advice on how to look for my uncle Eusebio Cortez Alvarado born in Matansas Jalisco. He was my fathers only brother and last I heard he lived in Gonzales Tamaulipas or Manuel Tamaulipas. I just need advice on how I can search for him. I have been looking for him for the past 3 years and have had not luck.
Cortes
I am so excited to find this group. Reading the other posts gives me hope. I've run into a dead end at the border for Carlos...
I'm looking for Carlos C. GUTIERREZ from the time he crossed into the USA and earlier. He stated in his naturalization papers (1954) that he immigrated and stayed in the USA continuously from 2 Jul 1926 and crossed at El Paso, Texas "on the El Paso Electric Co." He also stated that he was born 4 Nov 1902 in Union, Jalisco, Mexico.
On the death records for Carlos, it states his parents were Lorenzo GUTIERREZ and Emilia CABILLO.
I would be grateful for suggestions on where to look for Carlos or his parents and family.
Carlos C. GUTIERREZ
Lorenzo GUTIERREZ
Emilia CABILLO
from Judge58@aol.com
Dear TCARA members,
The SAR cordially invites you to participate in our trip to Spain to
honor Spain's assistance during the American Revolutionary War. We're
meeting the King of Spain and conducting a Charter celebration for the
new SAR Society in Spain. We're paying homage to Gen. Bernardo Galvez in
his home town, and at the Malaga Cathedral, where he was successful in
obtaining the money they had saved up to build the south tower of the
cathedral.
Please forward this message to the Bexar County Hispanic Genealogy
Society, the Canary Island Assn, and the Granaderos de Galvez, as I
don't have their respective e-mail addresses.
Details of the trip are as follows:
Please join us for the SAR trip to Spain from May 10 - 20, 2010. Group
airline rates from Washington, DC are available. Stay in outstanding
hotels, and enjoy delicious Spanish food. In Madrid, we are scheduled to
have an audience with King Juan Carlos, who is an SAR member. The tour
includes visits to the Royal Palace, Royal Armory, Army Museum, Navy
Museum, Plaza Mayor, and the incomparable Prado Museum. While in Madrid
we will visit El Escorial, burial site of ancient Spanish Royalty, and
scenic Toledo, where the finest steel swords in the world are made. In
Madrid there will be a reception at the US Embassy, where hopefully we
will visit with the US Ambassador to Spain.
By train and bus we travel to Macharaviaya, the home town of General
Bernardo Galvez for a celebration, followed by a ceremony at the Malaga
Cathedral, where the church donated their fund for the construction of
the South Tower to Gen Galvez. These funds were used for arms and
ammunition to protect the Mississippi River and Gulf Coast from the
British during the Revolutionary War. In Malaga visits are also planned
to Gibralfaro Castle and the Old Quarter.
In Granada we will visit the incomparable Alhambra Palace, where we will
gain insight into the lives of the Moors, who conquered most of Spain
and occupied it for 700 years. On the Costa Del Sol, there will be time
for swimming, shopping, or leisure strolls along the boardwalk. Also
included is a visit to scenic Rhonda. En route we stop to view the
construction of the brig Galveztown.
Consider an extra few days on the post trip extension which will allow
time for visits to historic Gibraltar, and exotic Tangier, Morocco. To
register and insure a place on the tour, send $200.00 per person to
David Eld, Magic Meetings and Incentives, 3901 North Stevens St.,
Alexandria, Virginia, 22133. For additional information contact him at
703-379-8071 or e-mail him at deld@magicglobal.com Final payment due NLT
Feb. 10, 2010.
A $200 deposit per person is required by 9/30/09 for the main trip and
an additional $100 per person for the extension.
We hope that you will join us on this historic event.
Fraternally,
Ed Butler
President General 2009-2010
The Sons of the American Revolution is the leading male lineage society
that perpetuates the ideals, principles and liberties established by the
founding fathers during the American Revolution. As a patriotic,
historical, and educational organization, we seek to maintain and expand
the knowledge and meaning of patriotism, promote respect for our
national symbols, and the value of our American citizenship. Through
these efforts we hope all Americans come to have a better understanding
of their rights and duties as expressed in the US Constitution and the
Bill of Rights. God bless the SAR!
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The National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution
Madrid—Malaga
May 10—20 , 2010
Compatriots,
Please join us for a wonderful 10 day trip to Spain, May 10-20, 2010. We
will visit the Cathedral in Malaga, where the church members donated the
money for the second tower of the church to Gen Bernardo Galvez, for
guns, ammunition, and supplies to fight the English up the Mississippi
and along the Gulf Coast. There will be time for lounging on the beach
along the Costa Del Sol. Savor the scenic side trips in the south of
Spain to the exotic Alhambra Palace near Granada; enjoy a celebration in
the small home town of Gen. Galvez; delight in the magnificent vista
from Rhonda, historic Gibraltar, and an optional day trip to explore
Tangier, Morocco.
In Madrid tour the Royal Palace and Armory, and hopefully have an
audience with SAR member King Juan Carlos. In Madrid we will visit the
incomparable Prado Museum, see El Cid’s huge sword at the Army Museum
and marvel at the ship models in the Naval Museum. There will be time
for a casual stroll through the magnificent Plaza Major, where you can
savor some tapas. Side trips include visits to historic Toledo and
stately Escorial, burial place of many Spanish kings.
An optional tour to Costa del Sol is offered.
Consult your tax advisor about the deductibility of this trip for
members of the SAR and members of the SAR Ladies Auxiliary.
Judge Ed Butler
SAR Spain Trip Coordinator
The itinerary planned for the Spain program is shown below. Please note
changes are possible until the official visits are confirmed.
ITINERARY
Monday, May 10—Depart U.S.A. for Spain.
Tuesday, May 11—Arrive Madrid. Transfer from airport to hotel. Check in
at the InterContinental Hotel. Afternoon at leisure followed by Welcome
Reception in evening.
Calvillo, Aguascalientes church records have me believing that they may be the same person. The names Merced Medina and Merced Macias come up in records naming her as a parent or grandparent. In some records she is called by Medina in another record Macias. I have been unable to clear up the relationship. I only have my suspicions.
Concider these conflicting entries.
Matrimony of Diego Serna and Marcela Lopez , June 11 1829
Diegos parents Juan Manuel Serna and Merced Macias
Diegos' and Marcela childrens entries of Grandparents are as follows
child Grandparents names
YSIDRO b. 03 Apr 1830 Juan Cerna and Merced Macias
JACINTO b. 15 Aug 1831 Juan Cerna and Merced Macias
SOTERA b. 21 Apr 1833 Juan Cerna and Merced Macias
Clemencia b. 22 Nov 1835 Juan Cerna and Merced Medina
Ysabel b. 02 Jul 1837 Juan Cerna and Merced Medina
Juana b. 23 Jun 1839 No entry
Jacinta b. 16 Aug 1841 Juan Cerda and Merced Medina
Siriaca b. 17 Jun 1843 Juan Cerda and Merced Masias
J. Refugio b. 01 Jun 1845 Juan Serda and Merced Medina
Manl. Adrian b. 08 Sep 1847 Juan Serna and Merced Masias
Bruno b. 09 Oct 1849 Juan Serna and Merced Masias
Nasario b. 26 Jul 1852 Juan Manl. Serna and Marcela Lopez , I am thinking this Marcela Lopez is a clarical Error as Marcela Lopes is the Mother not the grandmother.
Jose Manuel Serna and Trinidad Aguilera childrens entries of Grandparents are
child Grandparents
Crecensio b. 29 Dec 1805 Juan Serna and Merced Macias
Anto. Gil b. 01 Sep 1813 Juan Manuel Serda and Maria Merced
Manl. b. 15 Jun 1826 Juan Cerna and Merced Medina
IN the marriage of Casimiro Saucedo and Anastacia de los Dolores Serda m. 03 Feb 1799 . Anastacias's parents are Manuel Serda and Ma. Merced Macias.
In the decendants of Matias Serna and Juana Esparsa
child Grandparents
Jose Anto. b. 04 Aug 1814 Juan Manuel Serda and Merced Medina
Jose Pablo b. 07 Jun 1826 Juan Cerna and Merced Medina
The Serna, Serda , Cerna , Cerda variations dont bother me .. its the confusion of Maria Merced and Maria Medina . I need some clarifying information. Thanks in Advance. my contact info is Mooskies4 at aol dot com
I just wanted to point out, since we have lots of new members and since I have been cleaning up the Links section of the site, that there are recommended bookstores in the Links section. Those stores sell genealogy books relevant to our region. There are also some recommended general Mexican genealogy books on sale through Amazon.com including one by yours truly.
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/bookstores
Queria anunciar, ya que tenemos muchos nuevos miembros y ya que he estado actualizando la seccion de vinculos del sitio, que hay librerias recomendadas en la seccion de vinculos. Esas librerias venden libros de genealogia relevantes para nuestra region. Ademas, hay varios libros recomendados sobre genealogia mexicana de venta a traves de Amazon.com, incluso uno escrito pot su servidor.
I just wanted to point out, since we have lots of new members and since I have been cleaning up the Links section of the site, that there are recommended bookstores in the Links section. Those stores sell genealogy books relevant to our region. There are also some recommended general Mexican genealogy books on sale through Amazon.com including one by yours truly.
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/bookstores
Queria anunciar, ya que tenemos muchos nuevos miembros y ya que he estado actualizando la seccion de vinculos del sitio, que hay librerias recomendadas en la seccion de vinculos. Esas librerias venden libros de genealogia relevantes para nuestra region. Ademas, hay varios libros recomendados sobre genealogia mexicana de venta a traves de Amazon.com, incluso uno escrito pot su servidor.
Hi Nena,
Welcome back to Nuestros Ranchos and to Genealogy research. Maybe you can
join me and Irma when we go to the Salt Lake City Library next year. We
both extended our family trees several generations during our last visit.
It's good to have you back.
Maria Cortez
Sacramento, CA
> From: Maria Uhlenburg <1naturelover@att.net>
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] I'm back.
> Message-ID: <939624.41513.qm@web180316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi everyone,
> My name is Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg,?I took a couple of years off
> from genealogy but I'm back now.? My research started in Los Altos de
> Jalisco, Mexico?and has now gone back?Spain and Italy.? I wanted to say a
> special hello to my cousins Irma Gomez and Maria Cortez.? Genealogy is an
> addiction in itself once you get started.
>
>
I've completed transcribing 0439852 Jerez baptism records for the years 1867-1869. If you would like an attachment please let me know. I'm happy to share.
Linda in Everett
apellidos de la torre, en jalisco, tepa, guadalajara. y poncitlan
I am trying to contact Patricia Burton. Does anyone know of a way to
contact Patrica Burton other than her group subscription address:
canprin@yahoo.com
if so please email me directly at joseph@nuestrosranchos.org with this
information. It is very important that I contact Patricia Burton right away.
joseph
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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)
mis abuelos eran decendientes de Clemente de la torre y Catalina Franco de la cueva
de tepatitlan jalisco, hermano de mi abuelo,ese llamaba cleofas de la torre navarro
The U.S. Premiere of National Geographic's "The Human Family Tree" will air on Sunday August 30th at 9 pm ET/PT on the National Geographic Channel.
It will be narrated by Kevin Bacon and will cover their work in collecting DNA from around the world to map migration flows and map genetic lineages around the world.
As part of the premiere they are offering a discount on DNA testing which they offer through Family Tree DNA:
Special Offer: Test your DNA to find out how your ancient ancestor's journey fits into the human family tree. Go to the link below to learn about the Genographic Project and to purchase your Public Participation Kit. Enter discount code GENHUFA09 at checkout to receive 10% off the retail price. For use at the online store only, valid from today through September 15.
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html
That's great! It's amazing how we find some of our ancestors information.
Good luck and I will keep posting on my findings. I, too, usually stick to
just the microfilms for information.
Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California
Buenas tardes.....
Estoy buscando a familiares de:
FRANCISCO PEREZ GONZALEZ y su esposa PETRONILA GONZALEZ MARTIN DEL CAMPO, quienes se casaron en Cuquio,Jalisco el 29 de Septiembre de 1825.
Busco a sus padres y abuelos, principalmente; pero cualquier dato ayuda.
Ella tuvo un hermano que era Fraile Franciscano. Probablemente, todos eran de Cuquio.
Por otro lado, busco datos de padres y abuelos igualmente de:
JUAN PEÑA y su esposa PETRONILA GUITRON, quienes se casaron el TALPA DE ALLENDE, JAL. el 21 de Noviembre de 1853.
Muchas gracias
Suerte es lo que pasa cuando la preparaciòn encuentra a la oportunidad. Sèneca.
Enrique Nungaray LUTCF
Promotorias 20/284/296