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Can anyone tell me if it is still possible to zoom in on a document page and only print the entry you're interested in?
I used to do it all the time, but don't seem able to anymore.
Thanks for your help.
Alice

La Legaspiada en Nochistlan, ZAC.

Ya por decima vez Los Legaspi se han juntado en Nochistlan, ZAC. para la celebracion de San Sebastian. Esta Legaspiada, reunion familiar ha atraido a compatriotas y paisanos de todo el orbe: Mexico, EEUU, Europa, Asia. El pasado enero nos juntamos mas de 250 personas. Esto nos ha dado oportunidad de encontrar y re-encontrar parientes. Por ejemplo, unas famlias con el nombre con cambios de deletreo se unieron a nosotros. Cada vez mas, mas gente nos busca. El 2015 la celebracion del Papaqui a San Sebastian y reunion familiar sera el 17 de enero. Todos estan invitados. Es una fiesta comunal. Nochistlan esta designado Pueblo Magico, el cual fue fundado como la Primera Guadalajara y principal poblado de La Nueva Galicia. Nuestros estudios genealogicos se han enriquecido en si. Hemos llegado seguir nuestro nombre en Mexico hasta principios del siglo XVII con la posble relacion con Don Miguel Lopez de Legazpi de Zumarraga.

Espero ver a todos que nos puedan visitar.

Digitized historic archive.

I found by accident the website of the Centro de Estudios de Historia de Mexico Carso, owned by Carlos Slim, and it has a large colection of digitized documents and photographs. I'm still browsing through the website, but I have seen there are some collections about Nueva Galicia and the war of independence. The site is:

http://www.cehm.com.mx/Es/archivo_digital/Paginas/Consulta_de_archivos_…

Ayuda en investigacion

Buenas Noches, les agradezco que me hayan aceptado en este grupo, hasta el moemento tengo problemas para encontrar los ancestros de Maria Ignacia Ruiz Esparza , cuyo Padre fue francisco Ruiz Esparza y Madre Eufracia Pedroza, se que el padre de Francisco Fue Pedro Ruiz Esparza y la Madre Dolores Medina, Pero no encontrado sus registros y el nombre de el Sr. Pedro lo encuentro en época anterior, alguien podría por favor ayudarme, atte Carmen Castaneda

SOLICITO INFORMACION

ME GUSTARIA SABER COMO SE TIENE QUE HACER CORRECTANENTE ESTE ESTUDIO, PARA REGISTRARSE, QUE DEBE DE LLEVAR ANOTADA CADA FOTOGRAFIA, CADA HECHO, CADA PERSONAJE, ETC.

AGRADECERE SU ATENTA INFORMACION Y DE ANTEMANO ESTARE AGRADECIDA.

Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society Southern California Chapter

For those of you who are living in Southern California and have been interested in the Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society, we are trying to establish a new chapter.

If you are unfamiliar with NGGS, please visit their new website at http://www.nuevagalicia.org/

In order to gather informational feedback, we have created a survey to help us understand the concerns of those who wish to join. If you are interested, please respond to one of the following surveys (either the English or Spanish version):

NGGS SoCal survey English version: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/FXVZKFG

NGGS SoCal survey Spanish version: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/66WJGHD

Once we gather enough responses, we will try to announce an appropriate day and time for the first meeting (interest permitting).

If you have any questions, feel free to email Rosalinda Ruiz or Erika Rivera at nggssocal@nuevagalicia.org .

Rosalinda & Erika

Cuesta Blanca, Aguascalientes?

I am currently working on my Pompa line out of Calvillo that has always been a mystery. One of those ancestors that suddenly appear out of nowhere. *Alien spaceship ancestors, as I call them* Would anyone know where Cuesta Blanca is? My Prudenciano Pompa came from there. He does have a sister that according to her marriage document states she was from Guanajuato. I have not been able to find neither of their baptisms. Their mother was a Hernandez from Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes. I have traced her line already as it appears I am now related to two Hernandez brothers.

Thanks

Does anyone know about the rancho Las Navajas at Tala, Jalisco?

My ancestor Fernando Javier Rivera y Moncada bought the ranch in the 1700s. I would like to know if anyone knows if there is a cemetery on the property or if that would be the incorrect thing to do? Did people bury all people in churches or cemeteries or did they have private cemeteries?

Paintings of Second Conde and his wife of Hacienda San Mateo on wall in a hotel

If any of you ever go to downtown Ciudad of Zacatecas? And you pass through the hotel, "Meson Del Jobito?" There are two large paintings of the Second Conde and his wife of the Hacienda of San Mateo on the wall near the receiptionist. We have seen it when my woman and me took a short cut through the block by passing through the hotel. When I saw those paintings, I told my woman who they are.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/2niz90p.jpg

Here is the website of Meson Del Jobito Hotel:

http://www.mesondejobito.com.mx/index.php/tour-virtual

De Garibaldo

He estado investigando, desde hace 7 años el àrbol genealogico de el apellido De Garibaldo. He llegado hasta diez generaciones atraz y estoy detenido a causa de que ya no encuentro registros. El ùltimo que tengo es del Matrimonio de Lorenzo De Garibaldo con Catalina Sorita, efectuado en enero de 1660 en el Sagrario Metropolitano de Guadalajara. Hay alguien que me pudiese ayudar?

Is this the same Sebastian Merino b. ~1636 in Aguascalientes?

Hola a todos,

I recently traced my ancestry to Sebastian Merino and Thomasa de la Cruz (Rodriguez?) from Aguascalientes. I descend from them through their daughter Rosa Maria de Arenas who married Juan Salado de Aguilar.
Here is the burial info of my ancestor Rosa Maria de Arenas:

Name: Rosa Maria Arenas
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 29 Aug 1738
Burial Place: Aguas Calientes
Birthplace: Aguas Calientes
Race: Black
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Name: Juan Salado
Father's Name: Sebastian Merino
Mother's Name: Thomasa De La Cruz

Now, at first I thought that this Sebastian Merino was the same Sebastian who was son of Bernabe Merino and Maria Gutierrez, but then I read on his testament that this Sebastian was married three times: first with Juana del Castillo, then to Maria de Jaen and lastly to Nicolasa Ruiz de Esparza. He never mentions his marriage with Thomasa de la Cruz (Rodriguez?).

Here is the link to the testament:
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Merino-11

But then, on the last paragraph of his testament he states that a piece of land should be given to his "hijos naturales" Nicolas Merino and Sebastian de Arenas. His last son made me suspect that he has to be somewhat related to my ancestor Rosa Maria de Arenas.

Then, I found the burial info of Sebastian de Arenas (he has the same parents of Rosa Maria de Arenas). I believe this Sebastian de Arenas is the one on Sebastian Merino's testament.
Name: Sebastian Arenas
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 16 Jan 1748
Burial Place: Aguascalientes
Birthplace: Aguascalientes
Race: Black
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Sebastian Arenas
Mother's Name: Thomasa De La Cruz

Now, this got more confusing because I ended up finding the marriage record and marriage dispensation of Sebastian Merino (de Arenas) and Thomasa Rodriguez, not sure if it is the same Thomasa de la Cruz. They married on 13 Nov 1689 in Aguascalientes. On his dispensation he is "hijo exposito."

Here is la dispensa:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18409-32133-10?cc=1874591&wc…

But then if this was the Sebastian Merino who married three times, then he would also be marrying Nicolasa Ruiz de Esparza during the same time, exactly months after his marriage with Thomasa Rodriguez. Thanks to George Fulton's indexes matrimoniales, I found the index of la informacion of Sebastian Merino and Nocolasa Ruiz de Esparza on 22 Nov 1689 in Aguascalientes. This is really really fast to re-marry, not only that but Sebastian's former spouse as stated in the index is Maria de Jaen, not Thomasa. Unless, this Thomasa Rodriguez is not the same Thomasa de la Cruz and therefore mother of Rosa Maria and Sebastian.

Is anyone familar with Sebastian Merino's family and descendants?

I am really confused, I hope I explained myself good.

Thank you.

Roberto Rosales V

Cristobal Ramirez and Micaela Garcia

Hola Members/Primos , I am a little confused . I have a Micaela Garcia married to Cristobal Ramirez -(marriage date I cant find) with the following children:
1) Maria Yanuaria Garcia born Sept.22,1814 in San Juan de Los Lagos
Bautismos-San Juan de Los Lagos -1809-1816 Image # 349 -padres no conocidos
2) Maria Petra Ramirez Garcia born Oct. 28,1823 in San Miguel el Alto
Bautismos-San Miguel el Alto 1821-1832 Image # 107
3) Felipe de Jesus Garcia Ramirez born Feb. 11,1828 in San Miguel el Alto
Bautismos-San Miguel el Alto 1821-1832 Image # 330
4)Yrineo Garcia Ramirez born July 08, 1832i in San Miguel el Alto
Bautismos-San Miguel el Alto 1821-1832 Image # 670

All state with the exception of one that the Abuelos Paternos-Ygnacio Garcia and Rafaela de La Torre and Rafaela de La Torre- which are the Parents of Micaela Garcia.
The problem is I also have a Micaela Garcia daughter of Ygnacio Garcia and Rafaela de la Torre married to Vicente Reynoso 16, of Sept. 1799 in Guadalajara with children born from the years of 1806 thru 1823.
I am thinking maybe Ygnacio Garcia and Rafaela de La Torre had 2 Micaelas with different first or middle names . Any thoughts ?
Ronnie el Confundido

Need help reading baptismal record

Can someone tell me what the village or town is where M. Buena Haro was born?

Her baptism is listed at: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18104-37688-22?cc=1883377&wc…
This is in Nayarit, in La Yesca church, bautizmo Oct 21, 1894, image 646. Her parents were Antonio Haro and Rosa Romero.
The image is the 2nd one down on the left side.

Thanks,

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Interested in Genealogical Books

I am a member of Nuestros Ranchos and I am interesting in buying the following books… Does any of you know how I could get them or if someone at Nuestros Ranchos would have copies to sell?

1. Los Protocolos de Rodrigo Hernandez Cordero
2. Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia by Mariano González Leal

Thanks so much,
Ivan Gallo
(650) 996-5383
ivan.gallo@icloud.com

Cerro Blanco Mountain (picture) My Great Grandfather Calixto Madera owned

My Great Grandfather (1851? - 1923) owned this whole mountain called, "Cerro Blanco" it is the mountain with the flat surface directly in the middle of the photo. He also owned the flats surrounding at the base of the mountain in the front side directly towards you on the photo. He supposedly sold it to the "Torres family sometime after the revolution. I already know what my Great Grandfather owned. When I went to visit the "Cerro Blanco" with an uncle. We went to the right side of the Cerro Blanco where there is an incline to go up the mountain. We explored the top of the mountain, while my uncle was telling me so many things about my Great Grandfather, what he owned, the talk of the town, etc. Then we walked to towards the left of the mountain until we got to the edge and we had a view of the other mountains off in the distance including the "Cerro De Huistle" mountain. All the time my uncle showing me areas in the Cerro Blanco and telling me so many things about my great grandfather. We walked back towards towards the right side of the mountain and began walking down the incline. At one spot, near the incline there is a tall cylindar stone shaped column standing up with a large bowl like depression on the top of the column. From the inclinde of the mountain we were walking on, we both jumped to the top of the stone column and stood on the bowl like depression which is about 10 feet in diameter. My uncle showed me these weird writings and symbols carved along the edges of the bowl like depression. I could not understand what they were or what was the purpose of that tall stone column. Seems like it was there during ancient times and man made.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/sy6rsp.jpg

I found this document that was written by Calixto Madera (1851? - 1923)in August 4, 1893 about the production of Honey in our town:

http://oi61.tinypic.com/otnnd3.jpg

Opening up the group to Colima and Nayarit descendants

I have been a group member for a couple of years and have enjoyed the
discussion on a number of topics. While I consider myself to be an active
genealogist, I have been limited (with some exceptions) to exploring the
areas of Tamazula de Gordiano and Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco. These Jalisco
connections are my father's side. The other long strand of family comes
from Sinaloa. That work is much like the work of Jalisco--mostly church
records of baptisms and marriages.

My sense is that opening up to the other two states, Colima and Nayarit,
will not produce great numbers of people because most 20th century
immigration to the U.S. has come from the areas of Jalisco, Zacatecas,
Michoacan, Guanajuato, Sonora and other northern states. The coastal
communities of Sinaloa, Colima and Nayarit do not have as many descendants
as the other areas.

The organizers of the site should have the greatest say in this as they do
the bulk of the work. They are the ones who will feel any new work load.
For me, I read the subject matters and decide whether I will follow the
thread of the message or topic. It may be I do not use the site the way it
was intended and I am unaware of the gold that lies beneath the surface.

Hay 'sta mis dos centavos!
Juan Manuel Carrillo

Expanding Research to Nayarit and Colima

Here are my thoughts:

I don't like the idea of advertising the group as focusing on additional states; however, if a conversation topic leads to Nayarit, Colima, or perhaps Durango (there was a unified zone with Zacatecas in the 1600's) as an offshoot of having ancestry from our original focus area, I would not put a stop to it. There is no point in stopping a conversation that might be helpful to researchers.

For example, I found some of my ancestors from Durango listed in Zacatecas notarial records that were listed on Nuestros Ranchos, but I would not suggest we now include Durango in the Nuestros Ranchos forum. At the same time, I would hope that I would not be stopped if I asked others if they had encountered one of my ancestor's names while researching. I think the key here is to remain flexible without expanding the group too much.

Alice