Nuestros Ranchos Site

I just wanted to let everyone know, that Ancestry now has the "Border Crossings: From Mexico to U.S., 1903-1957" online now.

Jonathan

Thank you! As I have completed some 40 years and some 1700 ancestors and
descendents of my own line, i am attempting to asssist her in her line. Ysidro was
married three times, Apolonia was 3rd wife, they had three children, Antonio,
born Tlaltenango 1848, Franciso, and Maria. Antonio, my wifes father went to
Jerez then to Mazatlan and became a large land owner (Tobacco, Chocolates.
brewery etc.) Again, thanks and I will send for the film. We reside Palo Alto, Ca

Gracias, Clemente

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Im requesting a marriage look up for anyone that is going to Salt Lake anytime soon. I have a better record that doesnt require trial and error for the baptisms in my Cienega de Mata. Here it is...

Nicolas Diaz de Tiscareno
Married April 5, 1731
Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico
Maria Dionicia de la Pedrosa
I only know the bride's parents...Thanks to Bill FIgueroa!
Antonio de la Pedrosa
Rosa Maria Valades

I would appreciate if someone could take the time to read this record in the microfilm at the SLC Library, If anyone is going there anytime soon. If you ever need help with anything I will glady be of assistence.
-Daniel Mendez del Camino

Dear Maureen,

Have you ever been there? It is soo beautiful. It is also one of the few
places where Native Americans abound...El Valle is about 15 minutes from
Tangancicuaro...and the border between El Valle and Etucuaro is virtually
non-existent. Etucuaro is obviously indigenous, while El Valle is obviously not, and
they have rivalry issues. Bordering El Valle are also two small towns called
San Antonio and Gomez Farias. If you are interested...I can send you some
pictures. El Valle de Guadalupe has an internet site, with some interesting
verbal history that was recorded and some neat pictures.

Wow....You are absolutely right about those family names...very prevalent in
El Valle. Here's what I was able to get from my husband's great aunt, who
by the way is in her mid 80's and is a nun in Jacona, Michoacan where I took a
picture of when it was founded (1520's).

As you can see, there are several Rochas....one through my mother-in-law
side and again through my father'in-law's side. According oral tradition...the
Duartes and Rochas were very prominent...having obtained most of their money
from bootlegging (you can imagine this information did not come from my
in-laws (lol)...rather, it came from other older men.... I can get some
information from my mother-in-law about her Rocha side of the family.....

It is believed that Pedro Ortiz was born in San Antonio, according to my
deceased father-in-law. But newer information revealed that he was born off in
a small ranch.

Juan Duarte who married Maria Rocha....one of their children's names was:
Ramon Duarte who married Amada Valdez (Amada's mom's name was
Socorro)...they had the following:
Faustino
Julio
Cipriano
Francisco
Empidia Duarte Valdez married Pedro Ortiz (my H's ggrandfather)
there was a previous marriage--name nunknow
Raul Ortiz Duarte (born in 1926) married to Maria Madrigal Rocha
Javier Ortiz Madrigal (my H)
Jesus
Jose Guadalupe who married Rutila Cardenas
Ester
Jose Guadalupe
Herminia (the nun)
Efrain
Adelina Duarte

No rush...take your time...
Esperanza

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Films are being digitally recorded by the LDS library, but at this time
very few if any are available for the areas we research in Jalisco,
Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes.

At this time you can't access the actual films online but have to order
and view the films at your local family history center.

The film section gives you the ability to _get an idea_ of what is on
each film listed if there is an associated batch number. So if you see a
film and there is an IGI or VRI next to the film number you can click on
it and it will show you all the information that someone painstakingly
transcribed off each film and made available. If you put a surname or
given name and a surname in you will be able to narrow the results.
[NOTE: This information is subject to error as many times the
information is transcribed by people that are not actually doing
research from this area or possibly even fluent in the Spanish
Language]. Any information you find here should be used only as a guide.
You find the info and then you order the film. Use the dates from the
IGI/VRI to tell you where to go the actual film so you can CONFIRM FOR
YOURSELF that the information is accurate.

Ask more questions if anything is unclear. Who knows but someone might
step forward and do a nice tutorial on Batch Searching similar to the
one Maria Cortez did on "PAF Instructions for creating reports in Rich
Text Format (.rtf)" which can be found in the files:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15482

joseph

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Daniel,

I belive the compounded surname "Diaz de Tiscareño" began in 1659, when
Baltazar Diaz married Beatriz de Tiscareño. I don't know who Baltazar's
parents were, but Beatriz's parents were Luis Tiscareño de Molina and
Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza. Beatriz was a grandaughter of Lope Ruiz de Esparza
and Ana Francisca Gabai de Moctezuma.

I know that Baltazar Dias and Beatriz de Tiscareño had a son named Joseph
Diaz de Tiscareño, but I have not been able to find any of his siblings.
However, there was a Francisco Diaz de Tiscareño who married Juana de
Tiscareño Aguilera in 1720. Francisco is probably a close descendant of
Baltazar and Beatriz (maybe a son or grandson) but I don't know for sure.
Francisco and Juana had a number of children born between 1720 and 1738.
They carried the surname Díaz de Tiscareño for obvious reasons. In the
first place, their father's surname was Diaz de Tiscareño, and in the
second, their mother's surname was Tiscareño Aguilera. They may have been
cousins or close relatives. This is not my line, so I really haven't done
any serious research on these families. I'm connected to Luis Tiscareño de
Molina and Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza through their daughter Maria, Beatriz's
older sister who married Capt. Juan Romo de Vivar.

I believe that most people with the surname Tiscareño who lived in
Aguascalientes in the 17th and 18th centuries are descendants of Luis
Tiscareño de Molina and Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza. Bear in mind that some
servants and slaves were also given the priviledge to carry their master's
surname, so you'll find some who are really not their descendants. Luis
Tiscareño de Molina and Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza had many slaves and indian
servants, but if they are listed as "españoles" they probably are their
legitimate descendants.

I did find an IGI record for Nicolás Díaz de Tiscareño, who married María
Dionicia de Pedroza on 05 Apr 1731 in Santa María de los Lagos, Lagos de
Moreno, Jalisco. They had a son Nicolás Miguel Diaz de Pedroza, baptized 23
January 1734 at Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos, Jalisco. Just like you, I don't
know who the parents of Nicolas Diaz de Tiscareño were.

I noticed that Connie Dominguez promised to look into this matter over the
weekend. I know she spent a lot of time researching the Tiscareños a few
years ago. She can probably be of great help to you to find your link to
Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Francisca Gabai.

This is all for now, Daniel. Hope you find your connection soon. I'll let
you know if I find anything else that may be of interest to you.

Regards,

Bill Figueroa

r family. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Mendez"
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: Diaz de Tiscareno

> Hello Bill! Thanks for letting me know you saved me about $6.25! and I
> could use that for a film that is more helpful in my present research!
> Forgive but I kinda did not use Don Nicolas' name name i just used his
> short name, which i know i shouldnt in this case. THis is the record im
> trying to prove. The only reason he used Diaz de Tiscareno was because his
> maternal grandmother's surname was i guess more important? She was Diaz,
> theres no other explanation for this Diaz de Tiscareno merge. I think she
> was also a Tiscareno. Margie Esparza is the one who has helped with this
> line and she says this record is no doubt my Nicolas. But the thing we
> have been able to find a marriage for Nicolas and Dona Deonicia de la
> Pedroza. So i still might have luck in Ojuelos, Jalisco as 5 of there
> kids were born in Ojuelos but baptized in Cienega de MAta, Jalisco. I have
> been told these two municipios are now presently joined as Cienega de
> Ojuelos. Originally they were broken up in two as Ojuelos de Jalisco,
> Jalisco, Mexico and Cienega de Mata, Jalisco, Mexico. For awhile I got
> confused until I found his kids on IGI. I just hope their grandparents are
> there. Have you done research here? This is my first line in focus and
> determination to connect and prove. If this is in fact him then I can
> connect the rest with Margie Esparza. I will connect to Lope Ruiz de
> Esparza and EMperor Moctezuma through this line. Im just crossing my
> fingers its him. Thanks for all your help in the past Bill! your a
> lifesaver. -Primo Daniel Mendez del Camino
>
> IGI Individual Record FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v5.0
> Mexico
> Search Results | Download
>
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>
>
> NICOLAS TISCARENO AGUILERA Pedigree
> Male
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> Event(s):
> Birth:
> Christening: 02 MAR 1706 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
>
> Death:
> Burial:
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> Parents:
> Father: DIEGO DE TISCARENO Family
> Mother: LUISA DE AGUILERA
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> Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the
> submitter's name and address and may include source information. The
> address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the
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> Source Information:
> Batch Number: 7513438
> Sheet: 10
> Source Call No.: 0884503 Type: Film
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Is anyone going to Salt Lake anytime soon? I will be starting school so wont have as much time to do research as I do in summer or vacations. I would appreaciate if someone is going that they could look up somethings. I need someone to look at Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1724-1747 - FHL INTL Film [ 640150 ]
in Cienega de Mata, Jalisco, Mexico. I trying verify my Diaz de Tiscareno line. If these records contain the grandparents im looking for then I can connect to Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Moctezuma II. I have the rest from 1500-1705, I just need someone to verify it for me. Here are my records that someone can use to find the children and verify the grandparents. I need a verification for at least one of them that the parents of Nicolas de Tiscareno (b. 1705) are in fact Diego de Tiscareno and Luisa de Aguilera. I would be eternally grateful to this person because it would be my first line back to Spain. If anyone ever needs help with anything, I will be at your service. You can use this to hopefully at least one will have the grandparents. And if possible at least scan one copy that contain the grandparents. Hopefully someone is going soon! -Daniel Mendez del Camino

Diaz de Tiscareno Family (Only the Baptized in Cienega de Mata)
Father: Nicolas (Diaz) de Tiscareno Mother: D(L)eonicia de la Pedrosa
Nicolas Miguel 23 Jan 1734 Cienega de Mata
Phelipe Xil 10 Jun 1736 Cienega de Mata
Jose Manuel Pheliciano 24 Jun 1732 Cienega de Mata
Joseph Maria del Ascencion 25 Oct 1744 Cienega de Mata
Gertrudis 29 Apr 1742 Cienega de Mata

Does anyone know if all the baptims are required to include the pat. and mat. grandparent's names? Or did it just depend on the preist. Ive only seen 1800's baptisms and always include parents, pat. and mat. grandparents and padrinos. But since Im trying to connect my Diaz de Tiscareno line back to Lope Ruiz de Esparza, im going to order the necessary baptisms records for Nicolas Diaz de Tiscareno's children some in Cienega de MAta, Jalisco, and some in Aguas. Aguas. He was born around 1705 in Aguas. Thanks to Margie Esparza I have a possible link to Lope from Nicolas Diaz de Tiscareno, but I need to prove it first. Thats why im hoping the baptisms include the grandparents' names as well. -Daniel Mendez del cAmino

I have a request for a film look-up. We are looking for the baptism record of Magdalena LOPEZ Rodrigues born 22 Jul 1901. Mascota, Jalisco. Her SSDI shows 1901, but the vital records for Calif death records shows the birthdate as 22 Jul 1898. So if someone has Bapt. film # 1156173 for Mascota, Jal, I would appreciate a look-up. We don't know the parents names and just found out her mother's maiden name is Rodrigues. I noticed the Ranchos film database has 3 films from Mascota and I am hoping maybe our listing is not up to date.
Magdalena's siblings Alfonzo and Petra were born in Mazatlan, Sin. If anyone is researching that area, please contact me on the side. kcortez@starstream.net
Thanks
Kitty Cortez
Rocklin, CA

I have just returned from a trip to Guadalajara, and a small ranch known as
Nopalitos (near Arandas), as well as Zamora and surrounding villages.

I got some great pictures of refurbished hacienda (pictures will follow) for
the ranch...this family's surname is Hernandez....

While in Michoacan, I got some great information from a great aunt (on my
husband's side of the family), but when I tried looking up the information at
family search, I realized that the pueblo was not founded until the late 1800's
or early 1900's...and although this great aunt testified that the family
members were all born in El Valle de Guadalupe, Michoacan(going back to at least
the mid 1800's)....none of the names given were associated with the
village...but some seem to be associated with Tangancicuaro...which is where
currently most of the residents conduct their legal affairs. Can anybody help me with
this?

In the meantime, I ate at Garibaldi's...famous for Carne en su Jugo. My
sister gave me the recipe...and with a bit of this and that....I was able to
successfully ALMOST duplicate it....here it goes....

It is a bit time consuming, with all the chopping and frying...but well
worth it....Skip down to the English version.

Acabo de llegar de Guadalajara, y me enamore de este platillo. Mi hermana
me habia dicho como preparar este platillo, pero cuando llegue a E.U., se me
habia olvidado.

Para los que viven in E.U.:, compre carne (sirloin) y yo lo corte muy fino,
un pedazo de jamon (los que venden para desaynar) cortando en cuadritos, y
medio paquete de tocino (grueso) que tambien corte en pedasitos.

No pude encontrar tomatillo, pero compre dos botes de salsa de tomatillo,
use chiles (hungarian), y tampoco pude encontrar esas sebollas...asi es que
corte una sebolla, y lo frei junto con los chiles.

Sigue la receta, segun como Gaby indico....salio todo requisimo. Gracias
Gaby....

For those of you interested in duplicating this recipe, you will need the
following ingredients:
sirloin (the one balled up): I cut it very thinly.
1/2 of a package of thick bacon (cut in squares)
1 slice of breakfast ham (cut in squares)
2 small cans of tomatillo sauce
4 hungarian peppers(diced)
1 onion (sliced)
One pot of pinto beans (cooked by you) - NOT REFRIED.
Cilantro
Onions
Lime (optional)
Tortillas (corn) soft or fried

Cook all bacon in a frying pan, rendering its fat - place to the side. In
the same fat, cook your breakfast ham - place to the side. Strain some of the
fat, and place your hungarian peppers and onions - place to the side. Then
place some of the bacon fat in a dutch oven pot, and saute the sirloin. When
sirloin is done, add all ingredients placed on the side, add water to cover
and a bit of worshester sauce as well as beef boullion. Cover and let it
simmer for about 1 hour.

In the meantime, chop onions and cilantro.

When ready, serve a spoonfull of beans with some of the juice and the beef
stew, with some of the juice...garnish with onions, cilantro...serve with lime
and tortillas.

This recipe is VERY CLOSE to Garibaldi's recipe from Guadalajara.

Esperanza from Chicagoland area

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I just posted my updated files on Rootsweb and need to warn anyone using them to know they are compromised. I merged FTM from my two different computers after I got a virus last year. It not only eliminated some records it merged families and gave spouses to the wrong people in the wrong states in Mexico. The only way I have of finding and making corrections if is someone contacts me about finding an error in a record, then I can correct it. I have over 40,000 names so it's impossible for me to find them all even though I am trying very hard to fix the problem without just starting over.

I guess this is also a good warning about not only finding records online but doing your own research to verify the information. To get into my records the easiest way is for the Zacatecas records is my grandfather, Epitacio Castanon, dob 1894 and for my Jalisco records my mother, Dolores Gutierrez, dob 1924.

I apologize for any problems I may have caused others but would appreciate any imput. The lesson is to back up files and don't merge when you don't know what you're doing....

Linda in B.C.

busco a mi padre,se llama vive en estados unidos hace mas de 10 anos que
no sabemos de el,lo ultimo que supe es que vivia en arizona,por favor si
alguin lo conose pueden comunicarse conmigo a mi mail
(justdaya1129@YAHOO.COM) MUCHAS GRACIAS

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Does anyone descend from this line? I need some help. I have done research about the this family extensivley? And have come to a conclusion that this surname was created when Antonio Dias de la Loma married Luis Tiscareno de Molina y Ruis de Esparza. Does anyone about this stuff? I do have Antonio del Pascual y Dias de la Loma's baptism record. He was baptized Antonio del Pascual y Dias de la Loma on February 10, 1645 ( I have the film #) in Villalba De La Loma, Valladolid, Spain, (thats prob where his mother got the Dias de la Loma surname, from the city name? His parents are Antonio DEL PASCUAL, yes, PASCUAL is the surname. and his mother Maria Dias de la Loma, for some reason when he arrived in Mexico prob. around 1670 or so becuase he was married in 1674 to Luisa Tiscareno de Molina y Ruis de Esparza in Aguascalientes (Luisa's mother is Lorenza Ruis de Esparza y Navarro de Gabay b. ca. 1600. All the Tiscareno must be related because we do know tha Luis Tiscareno de Molina y Marques brought to Mexico from Triana, Seville, Castilla-La Mancha, Spain around 1620. He was married to Lorenza de Esparza on May 16, 1623 in Aguas. This is my fathers line and would like to know more about it: Here is the list:

Daniel Alejandro Mendez del Camino b. 2 Jun 1992 in San Jose, California, United States
Jose Gabriel Mendez Cortez b. 24 Mar 1956 in Tamazula de Gordiano, Jalisco
Martin Mendez Serrano b. Feb 1917 in Tamazula de Gordiano, Jalisco
Lucia Serrano Rubio b. ca. 1889 in Tamazula de Gordiano, Jalisco
Maria Daria Atilana del Refugio Rubio Aceves b. Oct 1856 in Zapotiltic, Jalisco
Jose Antonio Rubio Diaz b.ca. 1814 in Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco
Maria Guadalupe Dias de Tiscareno y Gutierres b.ca. 1790 in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco
Joseph Joachin Dias de Tiscareno y de Ruvio b.ca. 1770 in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco
Nicolas Miguel Dias de Tiscareno y de la Pedrosa b. Jan 1734 in Ojuelos, Jalisco (baptz. in Cienega de Mata
Nicolas Dias de Tiscareno b. ca. 1705 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes
MISSING GENERATION (BUT I THINK THAT GRANPARENTS ARE ANTONIO DIAS DE LA LOMA AND LUISA DE TISCARENO, I WILL ORDER THE FILM FOR THE CHILDREN AND FIND THE GRANDPARENTS!)
Luisa Tiscareno de Molina y Ruis de Esparza b. ca. 1650 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes
Lorenza Ruis de Esparza b. ca. 1610 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes
Lope Ruiz de Esparza b.ca. 1569 en Ciudad Esparza, Pamplona, Navarre, Spain

Thanks, hopefully theres someone out there that shares the same family! -Daniel Mendez del Camino

The National Archives site provides a lot of background information - the why and how - of the border crossing records. See that information at this site:

http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/immigration/border-mexico.html

This will provide valuable insight into why, how, and what information was gathered. Parts 2,3, & 5 are particularly informative.

Since my family crossed into US in 1916, I am waiting for the border records from El Paso, 1905-1927 (non-statistical): A3406, comprised of 119 rolls. Also want to see A3412, statistical, comprised of 96 rolls.

The filming is scheduled to be completed by next spring or summer, I think (2008).

Natalie

Does anybody know how to obtain copies of land grants given to the Espanoles in Mexico? I know I descend from several HAcendados from old Mexico, but im most interested in the land grant made on Feb 17, 1899 in Huanusco, Zacatecas. They have an original copy at the Hacienda de la Luz where my moms side of the family owned. The Camino family. My 3rd great grandfather Mariano Camino b. 1853 owned HAcienda de la Luz from 1899 to his death in 1915. Then his son (my 2 great grand uncle) suceeded him as the next Hacendado his name was Manuel Camino (b. 1878). He only had the hacienda for two years. (1915-1917). In 1917 is when my grandfather says the Mexican gov't abolished all the HAcendados, Haciendas, and made all the land under the control of the govt. Prior to 1917 the Haciendas were "self" governed by representation of the HAcendado on behalf of the gov't. I would also like to obtain other land grants for other haciendad their family owned. Hacienda La Labor en Calvillo, Ags. I was thinking it might be in the Archivo General de la Nacion, but not sure where to look. Only one child of Mariano was actually born on the hacienda which was Amilia Camino (b. 1899) when the hacienda was officially established. Does anyone have any advice? Thanks a lot. Any help is appreciated. -Daniel Mendez del Camino

Hola al grupo ,

No se si tu tienes información de la ciudad de origen del Capitan Alvaro Carrillo segun el historiador Ignacio Davila Garibi decia que era de Sevilla, España, un amigo mio el Arq. Jose Francisco Garza Carrillo l no ha podiodo pasar mas alla del Capitan Alvaro Carrillo, lo ha buscado en pasajeros a indias y otros documentos y nada, El capitan Alvaro Carrillo se casó con María Alvarez, hija del Capitan Lorenzo Alvarez y de Agustina de Viera y estos se velaron en Lagos de Moreno el 4 de marzo de 1585. Gracias Welester
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Who if anyone is doing Godoy/Godoi research either in Tlaltenango or
Tepechitlan? Possibly from a rancho called Rancho las Lunas?

I have a cousin who is doing this research and wanted to see if he has
cousins in the group.

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Joseph, et al:

I am sorry that I never got around to going to look at these records. I know that a number of you had requested that I look up records for you. I believe that my grandfather is in these records as well.

Are you going to come up to DC and look through these Joseph? If so when? Perhaps I can join you. Anyone else who wants records looked up please let us know.

Joseph, we will have to contact the librarian listed in the message and let her know when we will be there as they will have to take the film out of a vault or something as it is not in the regular film drawers.

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From: Joseph Puentes
Date: Fri Jun 09 01:43:53 CDT 2006
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] El Paso, Texas Border crossing records

Now this might not be too much help but awhile back Arturo Ramos posted this message and it might be appropriate to revive it. I know the next time I have some research time in DC this is the material I plan to study. The 1920 Census records for my Puentes family indicates they crossed in 1911. . .I'm hoping they are on this material. You never know but maybe this film can be copied and distributed to some of the other NARA branches in the US.

joseph

Alice,

I finally found the page I used to register. I hope the link below works on your end. If it doesn't, it could be that they are overwhelmed with requests to register and can't handle them all. They tried to limit the number of users so they can effectively handle the feedback and work out the kinks in the pilot, so they might be blocking further requests for registration.

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/web/register

Emilie

Has anyone ever seen an example of a padrino for a marriage or baptism
that wore the same surname of either the parents or the couple being
married that WASN'T a relative?

Example. A person wears the name of Garcia and he marries someone and in
the record it lists that the padrinos were Juan Garcia and Manuela Lopez.

Has anyone ever seen an example in the records from 1800's (not modern
times) where that padrino surnamed "Garcia" was proven to NOT BE a relative?

NOTE: I know that the padrinos were not always relatives but I'm
wondering if there are examples of padrinos with the same surname of one
of the people involved have been proven to NOT BE relatives.

joseph

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Subject: SOMOS PRIMOS July 2007 Table of Contents lq3
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:09:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: MIMILOZANO@aol.com
To: MIMILOZANO@aol.com

Click here: Somos Primos: Dedicated to Hispanic Heritage and Diversity
Issues
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2007/spjul07/spjul07.htm

Dear pimos and friends:

Hope you all have a safe and fun July 4th. Remember our ancestors
helped bring about the victory!! For the 3rd year Hector Diaz will be
participating as part of the National Archives festivities in
Washington, D.C..

It is exciting to see the increasing of heritage activities across the
nations, which are including and recognizing the Hispanic/Latino
historical presence.

For example, new volunteer (we all are!) Somos Primos staff member,
Rafael Ojeda is moving two projects forward: identifying all the
Hispanic Purple Heart recipients, and the forming of a Spanish colonial
unit of reenactors in the state of Washington.

However, much understanding is still needed. Just this morning my
husband showed me an article in the latest U.S. News and World Report,
July 2/July 9, page 45: "Before 1848, Calfironia was just the sleepy
northern frontier of Mexico. The popultion consisted of at least
300,000 native Indians and _only 700 foreigners, *most of whom were
Americans*."_ No mention of the Spanish/Mexican presence.

I hope you will all be on the look-out for examples of */racism by
omission/ *in your area, and share with Somos Primos readers.

Warm regards, Mimi

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A medal, a debt, both of honor
Defend the Honor Update
Copy of letter from Major General Montano to Tom Brokaw
Interested third party: "Mexican Stand-off " . . of sorts
Air Show in Reading, Pennsylvania
Hispanic military museum is planned for San Antonio
Free Ramos and Compean

NATIONAL ISSUES
American Only by Wanda Garcia, daughter of Dr. Hector P. Garcia
1936, US Bureau reclassifies Mexicans as "White"
Hernandez vs. Texas: 1954 Groundbreaking case for Latinos
Immigration Reform: A Glance at History by Dionicio Morales
The History of Barrios Unidos, Healing Violence in the Community
Latinos Nix Violence
Increased Immigration Lowers Crime Rate: "Latino paradox"
Third-Generation Latinos Detached from both Past and Present

RESOURCES FOR CELEBRATING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH
Websites
Annenberg Media
Hispanic Heritage National Parks
Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo - A Voyage of Discovery
Heritage Discovery Center

EDUCATION
Hispanic Students Hungry for College
Evaluating Instructional Materials for Social Content
Minority Population Tops 100 Million
Book: Journey to Latino Political Representation by John P. Schmal
Book: 500 Years of Chicana Women's History
Book: I was a Really Good Mom Before I had Kids
Book: The Power of Poetry

BILINGUAL EDUCATION
Book: Power of Parents: Bicultural Parent Involvement in Public Schools
Latino Education: Beyond The Millenium by Manuel Hernandez-Carmona

CULTURE
Loteria in San Juan, Texas
Luis Rodriguez and Tia Chucha - Casting A Giant Shadow
For the Record: 2007 ALMA AWARD WINNERS
Farid De la Ossa
Mosto & Rojas Arte
La Raza Galeria Posada
Angel Cabrera Defeats Tiger to Win U.S. Open
At home in the booth
Book: Playing America's Game: Baseball, Latinos, and the Color Line

BUSINESS
Luis Ruiz 1918-2007, Co-founder of Ruiz Foods

ANTI-SPANISH LEGENDS
Upside down American flag
Why would the English use a Spaniard to set their behavior?
Juan Gines de Sepulveda, the ''Father of Modern Racism''?
Latino Fear and Loathing by Linda Chavez
Erased from history by Ruben Navarrette Jr.
Yonkers father questions anti-immigrant cartoons used in school

MILITARY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT HEROES
Family Reunification, Filipino Veterans
Puerto Rican Veterans
Purple Heart Project
Homeless Veterans
Mexican fighter squadron to be honored with marker
Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients, Part 5 by Tony Santiago
Puerto Ricans in World War II by Tony Santiago

CUENTOS
My Dad, Catalino Lozano by Mimi Lozano
Understanding Our Heritage By Anita Rivas Medellin
Carmen Salazar by Elisa Oniel

LITERATURE
Zorro: Hero of Hispanic America
Poetry by Rafael Jesús González

SURNAME: SERNA

PATRIOTS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
Arizona Spanish Colonial Blue Coats
Nuestra Familia Unida: Texas Connection to the American Revolution
Spain's Involvement in the American Revolutionary War
Lorenzo and the Turncoat, winner 2006 Arizona Authors Literary Award
The Descendents of Colonel Gilbert Antonie de Saint Maxent

ORANGE COUNTY, CA
SHHAR Quarterly meeting, August 25, Dr. Vicki Ruiz
Latino Advocates for Education Seeking to contact Korean Veterans
Residents of the Cypress Barrio in Orange reunite to remember
"Arte LatinoAmericano: From the Figurative to the Fragmented"

LOS ANGELES, CA
Tamale Museum to open in 2008
Tamale Festival, November 9, 10, 11
Malibu Grandmothers Gathering
Fire Damages 82-Year-Old East L.A. High School

CALIFORNIA
"Roll Call" A Latino play by film producer and writer Alfredo Lugo
San Joaquin Valley Latino Population
Family Photographs of Everyday San Francisco Online
Mexico Aviation History, San Diego Museum
July 29th: 3rd Farias-Talamantes-Reunion dinner
Juana Briones de Miranda home, California Registered Historical
Landmark, No. 524 plaque
Los Californianos Alert: Castro Adobe Brick Making
Years of searching lead to pioneer's grave site
"Will the Real Founder of San Diego Please Stand Up"
The San Gabriel Mission Matrimonial Investigation Records

NORTHWEST UNITED STATES
Fort Nunez Goana
Invitation to join this Re-enactor Group of the Spanish Bluecoats
Colonial Era.
Alaska Natives and ACLU Sue Over Voting Rights Violations in Bethel
Developer proposes Latino market

SOUTHWESTERN UNITED STATES
Denise Chavez
Joseph Sanchez

AFRICAN-AMERICAN
The Human Race Machine
A Rising Voice: Afro-Latin Americans
Black Denial
Letters to the Miami Herald
Black Indians Questionnaire

INDIGENOUS
US Border barrier 'desecrated burial sites
Origin ancestral de los Pueblos Amerindios
"Cuauhtemoc"
Missing from the Circle
The End of the Hollywood Trail
Hayword Lakota Couple Fosters Family of More than 20
Tiny Sonoma County Reservation Makes list of Endangered Sites
Tribe's buildings on list of Endangered Sites

TEXAS
Alamo Plaza - A Star is Born and TCARA
Abel Vidaurri Sr. Memorial Arena Ceremony at the Garcia Ranch
Texas State Conference Information
Los Bexarenos July 7,
Warren Stricker: Genealogical Holdings at DRT Alamo Library
With All Arms
El Diario Newspaper
Tejanos in Action: The Battle of Medina
A Tejano Son of Texas in Brownsville
Events at Presidio San Saba
Robert Rrunyon Photographic Collection
Old Spanish Trail

EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI
Honoring:
Antonio Salazar
Raul Aguilera

EAST COAST
Cemi Underground
July 4th: Patriotism, Sacrifice, Freedom
Colonial Reenactments on the East Coast
Babies and Bicycles - The Conversion of a Long Island Town
San Juan Del Puerto, La Florida

MEXICO
Cuilapan, Oaxaca
Dr. Don Luis Maeda Villalobos, La Region Lagimera
Translation of Dr. Don Maeda's article by Mercy Bautista Olvera
Notas de interés sobre historia, patrimonio histórico, usos (y abusos)
Descendents of Jose Froylan de Mier
The Descendents of Don Nicolas de Cardenas Pinillas

CARIBBEAN/CUBA
The art of Migdalia Cabán
El uso de los soldados puertorriqueños en la segunda guerra mundial
Voz del Centro - Puerto Rican Cultural Website

SPAIN
Spain's Tall Ships Built by Spain
History on Spain time line since 1372
Man of Honor
Cáceres, Extremadura, Spain
Polynesians beat Spaniards to South America

INTERNATIONAL
Trephinated Skulls
Captain Alexandro Malaspina
Uncontacted Tribe Emerges from Amazon Forest
Book: Children of Cain -Violence and the Violent in Latin America
My Heritage
Gaunches Canary Island DNA

FAMILY HISTORY
Beautiful Family Tree Display
Academic Libraries Internet Subject Directories
Free utility programs are a must have to do genealogy.....

ARCHAEOLOGY
Yes, a Bonaparte feasted here
Spain sues over shipwreck bonanza

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I have been able to access Zacatecas, but it doesn't appear that Tlaltenango
is on the census data....

I haven't been able to access Tangacicuaro, Michoacan either (sigh).

But I've found some great data from Coahuila....verified the legacy of the
"teacher" story with my great aunt.

Did anyone else have this problem?

Esperanza

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Below is a message I found on the webmaster's blog about problems with registration. Maybe this will help you.

Linda:

Also, I was unable to see all that was on their drop-down menus due to the resolution on my computer. I have the lower resolution of 800 x 600 so the fonts and screen image appear larger due to my bad eyesight so I see only a part of the screen. Currently the pilot program is set to be viewed full screen at 1024 x 768 which would make everything look smaller on my computer, but the drop-down menus could be seen in their entirety.

Also, I was unable to exit out of the drop-downs because they have the OK and Cancel at the bottom and I was unable to drag the menu up high enough to see that, so I had to exit out of the whole thing to get rid of it. Maybe that is why I couldn't see Zacatecas on the census list--it was too far down out of view, since I never saw Zacatecas on the list. I'm glad that not all the images are as poor as the one for Pabellon that I saw. They said they would work on those problems of resolution and moving the OK and Cancel up to the top of the menu; feedback to me was quick.

Emilie
1.. Bill Mangum Says:
June 26th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
The new name is "Record Search". To Register you must follow the link to Record Search. Then you must select "Register to use Record Search". The window that comes up may be blocked by a pop-up blocker and you will have to accept pop-ups from this site to proceed.

After completing the registration it can be up to a working day before you are activated and receive a welcome e-mail notifying you that you can now use "Record Search".

There is a good write up that was posted today by Dear Myrtle that provides some pointers on using the system - http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2007/06/browse-unindexed-microfilm-online-to….
Hope this helps

I was wondering if anyone knows how I can contact Deena Ortiz? Does about an ancestor in Nochistlan. Does anyone have her email? Thanks. -Daniel Mendez del Camino

Hi, Maureen:

I asked my local library and they do not get the ancestry.com site, so I was
disappointed. Thank-you for telling us how you managed to make the images
on the border crossing records print out larger!

Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California