Hi nuestros ranchos,
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Arturo,
I'll be pleased to do as you request/suggest.
Efrain
> [Original Message]
> From: arturoramos
> To:
> Date: 9/3/2007 6:48:20 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Santa Anita, Tlaquepaque
>
>
> Efrain:
>
> Thank you so much for your work in compiling the numbers of these batch
numbers for the parrish of Santa Anita. It appears that this parrish is
now part of the municipality of Tlaquepaque, so given the way our database
is organized, these films and batch numbers should be entered under that
municipality.
>
> Please let us know if you can do that... you should designate them for
the particular parrish (e.g. Baptisms Santa Anita 1871-1875) in the
description. If you are unable to do it, we can find someone else to enter
them.
>
> Thank you again.
in the latest SomosPrimosn
(http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2007/spsep07/spsep07.htm) here is a write up:
*Nuestra Familia Unida
*
Frank Moreno Sifuentes has once again come up with some interesting oral
histories, stories, cuentos, and poems. Please have a listen to a few
"Cuentos de Kiko" from the archives of
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http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com/podcast/oral_history.html#kiko
Stories include . . . Art of Nicknaming, Calcutta 1973, Christmas Kiss,
Destino de Mama Brande, Football Mania, La Jefita, Las Mamas, Letter to
Jefito, Lupe Lemos y El Puerquito (parts 1-5), Ormigas Rojas, Secret
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http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2007/spsep07/spsep07.htm
Hi All . . . The good news and the bad news. . . the struggle for
inclusion goes on. The good news: the _Smithsonian_ will hold a 3-day
symposium on the subject of our contributions back to colonial times.
The bad news: Burns is doing a presentaion and book signing at the
_National Archives_ on September 11th and speaking to the_ Press Club
_on September 19th.
I have a big apology to make to some of your friends. I lost a whole
page of _August requests_ to be added, deleted, or with an email
address change. If your friends and associates comment to you, please
suggest that they contact me again. Thank you.
May you enjoy your Hispanic Heritage Month activities. Let me suggest
that you look at the Table of Contents before going to the issue. It
was difficult to decide where to put some of the information. You will
find the issue packed with resources.
Warm regards, MImi
Content Areas
*United States*
The Spanish Contributions to the Independence of the United States:
Between Reform and Revolution (1763-1848) Smithsonian
USS New York: Ship's motto: "Never Forget" September 11th
Pew Hispanic Center data
Abstract: E Pluribus Unum: Diversity & Community in the 21st Century
World War II Daily: East L.A. Marine: Untold True Story of Guy Gabaldon
New documentary: Dr. Hector P. Garcia MIMI GET NAME FROM WEB
"Garcia Style" by Wanda Garcia on the life of Dr. Hector P. Garcia
San Jose Woman Receives National Recognition
College tour gives Latino students a wider world view
*National Issues*
Latest information on THE WAR and PBS, go to www.DefendTheHonor
Latinos battle for more recognition in war film
Submit questions to Burns for Press Club luncheon, September 19th
Fathers Create Bulletproof Backpacks, Parents Take Defensive Action,
Million Father March - It's About Education
Too many Latino men are living in prison
*
Action Item*
Letter to a PBS station requesting funds
Texas State Capitol Event to Honor Latinos & Latinas
Flap over Burns' 'The War' gives Latino filmmakers a boost
What YOU Can do about THE WAR . .
Prof Seeks Collaborators for Documentary on Vietnam Vets in Guadalupe,
Latinos feted in war film
Sorpresa TV Network Seeks Youthful participants-
Filmmaker looking for Quinceañeras
Mendez v. Westminster School District, U.S. Postage Stamp
State of Washington joins California in honoring Mendez Case
Sept 14, Mendez v. Westminster School District Stamp unveiled
*Celebrating Hispanic Heritage Month*
The Bronze Screen, 100 Years of the Latino Image in American Cinema
Lalo Guerrero: The Original Chicano
Mariachi for Gringos
Hispanics in American's Defense: Latino Blood, American Hearts
Invite a Latino Astronaut to your child's school
*Culture*
The Arts in Latin America 1492-1820, Los Angeles
Cantinflas Lives Up to His Name
Maria Felix Estate Auction Nets $7.3 million
Revolutionary Ideal: Transforming Community thru Oral History
On Speaking Spanish
*Education*
Earning a Texas Education by Rep. Juan M. Garcia III
Ricardo Favela Scholarship Fund
Students teach educators about schools
Rethinking Schools
Secretary of Commerce's Speech to HNIP Interns
Why High-Achieving Hispanic Students Go to Hispanic U:
*Business*
"Information Center New"
Wanted: Latinos to fill federal jobs
Nov 8-11 5th Convocation To Build Latino Wealth & Influence
*Anti-Spanish Legends*
Shared riches bring wealth of baggage
*Military & Law Enforcement Heroes*
Documentary: "The Forgotten Eagles"
Fake Marine Sentenced to Tend Graves
Fake General
Musical Echoes of Chicano Soldiers during WWII
Citizenship by choice: Alfred Rascon
Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients, Part 7
Recommended Websites
*Cuentos*
My Cousins Orlando and Vita Lozano
Nuestra Familia Unida
Letter to Society - Chicano Poem
The Return of Papantzin
*Literature*
Vicente Riva Palacio Defines a Nation: Mexican Independence Day 1871
Introduction by Ted Vincent
"Las Mananitas" from book: Mariachi for Gringos
Poems of the moon by Rafael Jesús González
Beauty of the moon by Mimi Lozano
*
Surname: *Arzamendis
*Patriots of American Revolution*
Smithsonian Symposium September 27-29, 2007
The Spanish Contributions to the Independence of the United States:
Between Reform and Revolution (1763-1848)
Library of Congress Global Gateway:
Links between Spain and the Library of Congress for resources on our
Colonial period archives.
*Orange County,CA
*Sept 14: Mendez Stamp unveiling in Santa Ana
Sept 15 - Oct 15: Westminster City Cable 3 to honor Latino Veterans
Sept 16: Dia de la Familia 1-5 pm, Sigler Park
Sept 18 & 19 or 20: East L.A. Marine: Untold True Story of Guy Gabaldon
Sept 8th Play: "With Empty Pockets Y Una Sonrisa!"
Latin Festival Night, reflects cultural mix
Profile: Jesus Montoya teaches the importance of a college education
Sept 29: Annual Logan Barrio Reunion
Quilts by Hispanic/Latinas win Blue Ribbons
October 5th-6th18th Annual Latino Social Work Network conference
*Los Angeles,CA*
Play: Roll Call, opened August 29th, continuing until September 22
Center for the Study of Political Graphics (CSPG), October 13th
Sept 15 Hispanics in the Civil War
Diversity gave birth to L.A.
Abstract: Policing the Third Border
*California *
Heritage Discovery Center, Madera
Creating New Roots
Dia de Los Muertos Displays
Book: Sons of Guadalupe, Vietnam Era veterans from Guadalupe, CA
*Northwestern US*
Save the date, October events: Old World - New World
Save the date: Oct. 20: BYU Hispanic Family History Conference
*Southwestern US *
Teresa Urrea Mexican Joan of Arc (1875-1906)
CRUCES New play, tragedies migrants experience crossing the border
Las Madres project; a monument for immigrants
On Becoming Mexicanized
THE PORVENIR MASSACRE -- According to Juan Flores
Voces Primeras launches a Production Company
Tucson's annual month long birthday bash, Happy 232nd!
*African-American*
Black Indians: An American Story
Our Pride: The Spirits of Black Japanese in Georgia
Another Side Of Race and Immigration
Discrete Silence Essays (2007), by Arthur Graham
*Indigenous*
Native American U.S. Postal Stamps, block of 12 Stamps
The Six Nations
Bread & Puppet Theater and Onondaga origins of the Iroquois League
Sacred Songs of the Ancient Mexicans
Darrell McCovey
Intro: Navajos and Environmentalists Split on Power Plant
*Sephardic *
Many Sephardic surnames are also Morisco surnames
An Abbreviated List of Jewish Illumineries Of That Period
Toward a Sephardic Haplogroup Profile in the New World
*Texas*
Once a Lost Cause, Dallas Courthouse Has Been Restored as a Museum
Sept 13-15: Border Bandits begins "Hidden History" tour,
Sept 13-16: 28th Annual Texas Hispanic Genealogy/History
Sept 22: Genealogy Conference Plano, Texas
HOGAR Journal
Tejano Heritage Month Activities - September 2007
The Noble Tlascalan
Raquel Martinez Benavides Reedy
Recommendations
*East of Mississippi*
Sept 14: National Museum of Mexican Art 20th Anniversary
Sept 15: Southwest Michigan Hispanic Celebration
Sept 26: A Walk through tour with the artist: Calixto Robles
*East Coast*
Restored Buffalo Bill Billboard on Display
The National Archive Experience
Work, Then Play
OCT. 26: Native Saint: The Amazing Journey of Juan Diego
West Side Story: Michael Farmer & the murder that shocked New York
Rising Voices of America: On the Hill, Latino Interns
*Mexico*
The Saga of the Aztec Eagles, Escuadron201
Valladolid-Morelia, Cuna ideológica de nuestra Independencia de Mexico
El Apellido Zambrano en Nuevo Leon en los siglos XVIII y XIX
La Espalda de Vidaurri
Descendents of Don Domingo Narciso de Allende Ayerdi
*Spain*
Sorpresas
Recommended Websites
*International*
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Seven Wonders
Andean Music is Flourishing Around the World
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*History*
Saving Private Jose: Midwestern Mexican American Men During World War II
*Family History*
10ª Conferencia Anual de Historia Familiar Hispana
Family History Library Catalog-Film/Fiche Search
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Nationwide Local and County Histories to Go Online
*Archaeology*
Million-year-old human tooth found in Spain
Headless Bodies Hold Secrets to Pacific Migration
*Miscellaneous*
Blue Angel
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For those interested in doing research relating to the Pueblo of Santa Anita, Jalisco, here is a listing of 6 Film/Batch numbers not listed in the Films section of Nuestros Ranchos:
Film 0224902/Batch C603041 1759-1767 Santa Anita, Jalisco
0445286/C603042 1767-1794 Santa Anita, Jalisco
0445288/C603044 1818-1832 Santa Anita, Jalisco
0445289/C603045 1822-1838 Santa Anita, Jalisco
0445291/C603047 1853-1878 Santa Anita, Jalisco
0445292/C603048 1871-1875 Santa Anita, Jalisco
Happy hunting !
Efrain Conrique
San Diego, California
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Subject: Books for sale
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:00:03 -0500
From: larry kirkpatrick
*Announcing new book for sale:*
* *
Paso de la Conquista is offering a new book, *_Ancestors and Descendants
of Francisco X. Chavez_,* *_Indian Interpreter/Scout at the Presidio de
Bexar, 1785_*, for sale for $30.00 each plus $3.00 postage.
The book, by Robert Garcia, Jr., is 8½ by 11, soft cover, tape binding.
The book contains numerous extractions and translations of documents
relating to the historical background of the Chavez family. The book
also includes a new, not before printed, genealogy report listing over
600 descendants of Francisco Xavier Chavez, and a relationship chart.
Some ancestors of Francisco Chavez traced include lines to Christopher
Columbus, Vicente de Saldivar, Luis de la Cueva, Juan Ramirez de
Arellano, Diego Hurtado de Mendoza, Gonzalo de Salazar, and Juan Perez
de Onate. Several lines go back to Spain.
In addition, included are genealogy reports linking Chavez's two wives,
Juana Francisca Padron and Maria Micaela Fragoso to their Canary Island
ancestors, Joseph Padron, Martin Lorenzo de Armas, Antonio de los Santos
and Juan Leal Goraz. The 1785 Vial and Chavez Diary of the visit to
the Comanches is also included. This work is published in 2007 and
contains 192 pages including index.
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*Announcing new (revised) book for sale:*
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Paso de la Conquista is offering an updated book, *_Descendants of the
Alferez, Francisco Hernandez_,* *Soldier of the Presidio de Tejas de
Bexar 1718*, for sale for $25.00 each plus $3.00 postage.
The book, by Robert Garcia, Jr., is 8½ by 11, soft cover, tape binding.
The book contains numerous extractions and translations of documents
relating to the historical background and the Hernandez family. The
book contains a new, not before printed, genealogy report listing 1,797
descendants of Francisco Hernandez, one of the first soldiers and
ranchers of Texas. The Mezquia Diary of the Alarcon Expedition into
Texas, 1718 is now included. This second edition is published in 2007
and contains 144 pages including index.
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*Paso de la Conquista Price List*
*September 3, 2007*
*Price
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_With the Makers of San Antonio, Genealogies of The Early Latin, Anglo-_
_American, and German Families_. By Frederick C. Chabot. First printed
in 1937.
Reprinted 2006. Paperbound, 81/2 by 11, 412
pages. $49.00
$3.00
_Tejano Participants in the Texas Revolution of 1835-1836_. By Robert
Garcia,
Jr. 2005. 81/2 by 11, paperbound, 187 pages including
index. $25.00 $2.00
_Ancestors and Descendants of Jose Segundo de los Santos Coy, a Presidial _
_Soldier who Married Maria Luisa Teresa de Rosas_. By Robert Garcia, Jr.
and Yolanda Kirkpatrick. 81/2 by 11, paperbound, over 320
pages. $30.00 $3.00
_Descendants of the Alferez, Francisco Hernandez, Soldier of the Presidio _
_de Tejas de Bexar 1718_, by Robert Garcia, Jr., 81/2 by 11, paperbound.
Second Edition published in 2007. Contains 188 pages including
index. $25.00 $3.00
_The Alamo: Altar of Texas Liberty_. By Frederick C. Chabot. First printed
in 1931. Reprinted 2006. 81/2 by 11, paperbound, 141
pages. $20.00 $2.00
_San Antonio and its Beginnings, 1691 - 1731_ By Frederick C. Chabot.
First printed in 1931. Reprinted 2006. 81/2 by 11, paperbound, 130
pages. $20.00 $2.00
_Notes on the Storming of Bexar in the close of 1835_ By Samuel Augustus
Maverick. First printed 1942. Reprinted 2006. 81/2 by 11, paperbound, 32
pages. $12.00 $2.00
_San Fernando: The Villa Capital of the Province of Texas_ By Frederick C.
Chabot. First printed 1930. Reprinted 2006. 81/2 by 11, paperbound, 31
pages. $12.00 $2.00
_Memoirs_ By Antonio Menchaca. First Published 1937.
Reprinted 2006. 81/2 by 11, paperbound, 30
pages.
$12.00 $2.00
_Ancestors and Descendants of the Francisco Xavier Chavez, Indian
Interpreter _
_and Scout at the Presidio de Bexar 1785_, by Robert Garcia, Jr., 81/2
by 11,
paperbound. Published in 2007. Contains 192 pages including
index. $30.00 $3.00
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Hello,
I hope I am understanding your request to send the following URL and family
reintroduction:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16227
My grandmother:
Dora Walters
b 18 Feb 1923
Alamogordo, NM
My great grandmother:
Antonia Avila
b 17 Jan 1901
Zacatecas, MX
d 30 Oct 1985
Alamogordo, NM
gg grandparents:
Jose Avila
d 19 Mar 1912
Donaciana Avila (Roman)
b 6 Sept 1883
Fresnillo, Zacatecas, MX
d 29 July 1946
ggg grandparents:
Jose Avila's parents:
Doroto Avila
Precilicina Bernal
Donaciana's parents:
Aniseto Roman
Teodora Rodarte
married 12 Feb 1872
El Sagrario or Santa Domingo, Zacatecas, Zacatecas, MX
Thank you and best regards,
Lorraine Artinger
Does anyone have a family line that taps into this one? I am afraid there is not mich info, which is why I came to this site. I hope to find others who have relatives in common and that we can share information. I am not even sure this is the place to post this, but here goes! This is my addition to the database:
My name is John David Robles, and I am the son of J. (for Jose) Jacinto Robles (b. 08/16/1912, Aguascalientes, Ags) and Jane Elizabeth Byles Robles (b. 05/18/1917, Casmalia, CA).
Regarding the boys and girls names, some were named Jose or Maria before their common name, but they were not known by those names, just by their ‘first’ names. The two boys born in Mexico were named Jose and this was followed by the names they were known by to the family – same for the girls, they were all named ‘Maria’ followed by their given name).
My grandparents were Nieves Robles (b. 08/05/1884, Ojo de Agua de Rosales, Ags.) and Panfila Martinez (b.06/01/1889, Hacienda de Los Campos, Ags.).
Nieves Robles father was Marcial Nieves or Marcial Nieves Robles. His mother is unknown. No dates are available for his birth, marriage or death.
Panfila Martinez father was Esteban Martinez, no dates available, and her mother was Juanita, no maiden name known. She left Esteban (or maybe he died 0- I understand he was a very mean indigenous man and tried to drown my grandmother in a washtub once – so Juanita may have left him). Juanita came to the United States before my grandparents came, and she had married a man named Arizmendi, All her children carried the Arizmendi name.
My grandparents came here with their three surviving children during the Mexican Revolution, crossing into the United States on June 7, 1914. My grandfather worked in mines, I don’t know what kind - and they worked their way up gradually, staying in Torreon, Guanajuato for some time. My dad told me that they had to ride on top of train cars because so many people were trying to get out of Mexico. When they arn out of money, they would stop and work for a while, then continue on.
My grandparents had at least two children who were born and died in Mexico, before they came. They were Ma. Mauricia Robles, born September 22, 1905 and Je. Antonio Robles, born June 13, 1910. I have their original birth registrations, all of which are register stamped by the Juzgado del Estado Civil, Aguascalientes. They each have boletin numbers too. The wording on my dad’s certificate is ‘Queda registrada en esta Oficina el nacimiento de , nacido el dia de , Aguascalientes, – El Juez del Estado Civil, ’.
There are several siblings living in the United States, mostly in Santa Paula, California, where the family settled in 1914. There are family members, nieces and nephews of Nieves Robles, living in Puebla, Puebla, but I have no knowledge of their whereabouts and no names except for one, ‘Julia’, and no knowledge of her surname.
This is as much as I have been able to glean from family sources regarding the history of the Robles family of Aguascalientes before immigration into the United States.
John D. Robles
Ventura, CA 93003
Efrain,
The site is actually http://search.labs.familysearch.org (URL may change
someday) not www.familysearch.org It is a new site, which will host all the
digitally published collections of the Family History Dept./FamilySearch. The
site is in testing mode (about 7,000) users at current time.
You should also be aware that the 1930 Mexican census will be indexed soon too.
It will become an available indexing project on
http://www.familysearchindexing.org I hope everyone helps index it once it
becomes available, which should be sooner than later.
Lynn
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I was hoping that no one would ask...lol.
A preliminary survey has been done by a colleague of mine, however, they feel
that before it's published (or let me publish it on my blog) they would like to
clean it up. The survey went a little something like this...The "Datos
Preliminares, Sujetos a Rectificacion del Censo General de Havitantes de 1930
por Municipios," on film #0547084 item 11, was consulted then crossed checked
against the GSU's (Genealogical Society of Utah aka Family History Dept. aka
FamilySearch) collection of the census. Many municipios were found to be missing
(about 300 or just over 10% of all muncipios through out Mexico), and when it
was suggested that the GSU go back and pick up the missing municipios they were
told that we had filmed them all.
With that said the GSU filmed the 1930 census from the National Archives...some
states and/or municipios may have copies of the alleged "lost" records. Also,
nearly 20 years have passed since the census was microfilmed by the GSU, which
is plenty of time for the National Archives to dust off old books and discover
other municipios that may have been misplaced in 1987.
So, the short answer to your question: "what do you mean by lost?" Lost or
misplaced by the National Archives. And, to answer Brady's question: both
Torreon, Coahuila and Tlaltenango (listed as just Sanchez Ramon in the list of
municpios in 1930), Zacatecas are on the preliminary "lost" list.
I hope the explanation wasn't too confusing...
Lynn
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I need help researching a Tomas Xaques(Jaques, Jaquez). He was from Sombrerete , Zacatecas .
He married in 1679 in San Juan del Rio, Durango. So I estimate he was born about 1654.
The baptismal records there begin at 1679 and the matrimonies at 1695 so they are not much use.
Does anyone have any suggestions where else I might be able to look for information?
Thanks,
--
Esther A. Herold
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>
> Sylvia:
>
> If you look in the links section under Geography, then under Digital Map
> Collections, then under Secretaria de Comunicaciones y Transportes you will find
> a very detailed contemporary road map of Zacatecas:
>
> http://dgp.sct.gob.mx/index.php?id=440
>
> If you find Jerez and go south on the main federal road seven kilometers, then
> head east past La Labor, you will find Rancho de los Rios just before La Gavia.
> So basically, it is about 15 kilometers southeast of Jerez.
>
> As to its foundation, I can't help there.
>
I've done several genealogy presentations--one for our local genealogy society and two for our local library. I enjoyed doing them but the best part was showing people HOW to do their own. I had a computer set up and a big screen, then I went to the Familysearch.org. After asking my audience a few preliminary questions, such as, "may I have a volunteer?" I asked that volunteer what state in Mexico his grandmother came from. It was funtastic to see people who REALLY knew very little about their families get a sparkle in their eyes when they saw that they CAN find their roots.
Hello All,
I just had a quick question, for everyone. How many of us, here in the Ranchos group, teach research classes or give genealogy presentations?
And I will be the first to say that, I do (In fact I teach a weekly class, and will be presenting at 2 conferences in September).
thanks,
Jonathan
The Etzatlan, Jalisco portion of the 1930 Mexican Census was lost. I'll try to
come up with a more inclusive list of places that were 'lost.'
Lynn
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Hello everybody,
Although I am 56 years old, I am the "Benjamin member" of Nuestros Ranchos
..com
I am searching the ancestry of my grandfather, Jose Michel Vazquez
(1897-1990), married to Luz Lopez Pelayo (1898-1984). I believe both were
born in Autlan, Jalisco. My findings so far have been very modest. My
grandfather was son of Ricardo Michel Becerra and Guadalupe Vazquez. Ricardo
Michel Becerra's father was Pio Michel (don't know his maternal last name),
married to Gabriela Becerra (don't know her maternal last name). All of the
from Jalisco. Do you know if there are internet sites in the state of
Jalisco where I could search for birth and marriage records of my ancestors
? Or is this something that has to be done at the physical government
premises ?
I was navigating in the "Archivo General de Indias" provided here in
nuestrosranchos.org and found an official document appointing the Spaniard
JUAN MICHEL as "Regidor de Guadalajara, Jalisco. This document was dated in
1561.
If someone is interested, you may visit:
http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/ImageServlet
This site includes: "58 paginas manuscritas detallando la confirmación del
oficio de regidor a Juan Michel".
I wonder if Juan Michel is in any way linked to my family...
Thank you in advance for any tips you can provide me.
Felipe Michel Olmo
Aida,
I too am descended from some Acevedos that used the parish church in Tepetongo that served the communities of Salitrillo, Tinaja, Estancia, Buenavista, Salitral, Vivoras, Sauces, and a few others. I had the film # 0445156 that I transcribed for the time period you stated, and there is a gap in the records from 1780 to 1787. I looked at the index of the batch number for that film, and I didn't find any De La Vega or Vega, Bega or any Toribio or Bernardo Acevedo, Asevedo, Asebedo. Perhaps the records for your ancestors are lost, as they are for many of my ancestors.
My Acevedos were Luis de Acevedo/Maria de Castaneda, parents of Francisco Acevedo born 1723, father to Domingo Acevedo, who was the father of Ma. Juana Rosalia Acevedo born in 1750 in Salitrillo. She was my gggg-grandmother.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA
Yes, Aida,
The reason for suggesting looking at the brothers' original wedding
documents is that, failing to first find the birth records of someone,
marriage documents often include the names of the parents of the bride and
groom, and provide confirmation of the true parentage. Thus, if included,
they would provide the next ladder-step and church/city locations in
pursuit of data about their birth and pedigrees.
Since by your last message you appear to already know this, I am repeating
it only because some of the starting members of this forum often seem to
want to do these searches from the unproductive and frustrating top-down
approach, instead of earliest-to-oldest (children, to parents, to
grandparents, and so on).
So, is there something you think we can help you with? ... and is Pinos
the parish that Tepetongo residents belonged to?
With my best wishes,
Efrain
> [Original Message]
> From: Aida Garralda
> To:
> Date: 8/24/2007 5:25:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Researching Acevedo's and De
LaVegainTepetongo, Zacatecas.
>
> Efrain:
>
> Thank you so much for your info; I do have the marriage records for all
> three brothers, what I am looking is for their baptism or birth records
as
> they may contain the names of their grandparents.
>
> Thanks again,
> Aida Garralda
> garralda@cox.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Efrain Conrique"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Researching Acevedo's and De La
> VegainTepetongo, Zacatecas.
>
>
> > Aida,
> >
> > May I suggest for possible connection/leads the marriage records of the
> > following ...
> >
> > Jose Maria Asevedo with Maria Guadalupe Escovedo, 1799, Pinos, Zacatecas
> > (Family History Library Batch No. M606319)
> > Jose Maria Apolonio Asevedo with Maria Anastacia Hernandez, November 27
> > 1802, Pinos, Zacatecas (Batch No. M606272)
> >
> > Long shots, but could be productive.
> >
> > Efrain
> > San Diego, California
> >
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Aida Garralda
> >> To:
> >> Date: 8/24/2007 1:59:12 PM
> >> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Researching Acevedo's and De La Vega
> > inTepetongo, Zacatecas.
> >>
> >>
> >> My ggggrandfather was named Juan Jose Acevedo or (de Asevedo), he had
> >>
> >> 3 sons, Jose Toribio born @ 1773, Jose Maria born @ 1785, and Bernardo
> > born
> >>
> >> about 1787, I found all 3 marriage records for them but could not find
> > their birth
> >>
> >> records, it appears they were probably all born in Tepetongo,
> >> Zacatecas.
> >>
> >> Juan Jose (their father) was married to Maria Manuela de la Vega.
> >>
> >> If anyone out there has any information that maybe would help me find
out
> > more I
> >>
> >> would be very gratedful.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Aida Garralda
> >>
> >> garralda@cox.net
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Aida,
May I suggest for possible connection/leads the marriage records of the
following ...
Jose Maria Asevedo with Maria Guadalupe Escovedo, 1799, Pinos, Zacatecas
(Family History Library Batch No. M606319)
Jose Maria Apolonio Asevedo with Maria Anastacia Hernandez, November 27
1802, Pinos, Zacatecas (Batch No. M606272)
Long shots, but could be productive.
Efrain
San Diego, California
> [Original Message]
> From: Aida Garralda
> To:
> Date: 8/24/2007 1:59:12 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Researching Acevedo's and De La Vega
inTepetongo, Zacatecas.
>
>
> My ggggrandfather was named Juan Jose Acevedo or (de Asevedo), he had
>
> 3 sons, Jose Toribio born @ 1773, Jose Maria born @ 1785, and Bernardo
born
>
> about 1787, I found all 3 marriage records for them but could not find
their birth
>
> records, it appears they were probably all born in Tepetongo, Zacatecas.
>
> Juan Jose (their father) was married to Maria Manuela de la Vega.
>
> If anyone out there has any information that maybe would help me find out
more I
>
> would be very gratedful.
>
> Thank you,
> Aida Garralda
>
> garralda@cox.net
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Has anyone had any luck getting copies of Mexican Military records from 1920's or 1930's? Where would I write to? My wife's grandmother was married to a Mexican Military officer in the 20s.Thank you Brady
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Padrinos could be anyone who was Catholic and who was deemed to be in good standing with the church, thus they could be siblings. Often times the padrinos were not married to each other but usually were in some way related to the parents of the child who was baptised.
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif
----- Original Message ----
From: mormonboy74
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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:43:04 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Padrinos
This has been a question to me for a while. Although we are Mormon we still carry the tradition of Padrinoship. for instance mine are my grandfather and his 2nd wife. I have a question. can Padrinos be a brother and sister? Im trying to connect my Angela de Oropesa. In a document, it says "fueron sus padrinos Magdaleno Lopes de Oropesa y Angela Lopes de Oropesa. In our Hacienda any people with the same last name is related. Hence the intermarriage. The Oropesas came to our hacienda around 1890. The ones were named Thomas, Gervacio, Magdaleno and Maria Oropesa. They were said to came after my 3rd grt grandmother came named...Angela de Oropesa who married Jose Maria Hernandez de Solis. And had Eulalia de Solis. Who married Estevan Lopez de Duran who had Lorensa Lopez de Solis who married Celso del Camino y de Soto. Who had Antonio Lopez del Camino who married Maria Guadalupe Vasquez de Elizalde, who had my grandfather Antonio II del Camino. Anyway...The
fact is on a relatives b
aptismal
Magdaleno and Angela Oropesa were padrinos, but she cant be married to him because at the same time he was married to Francisca Garcia de Bedoya. So it has led me to believe that Magdaleno and Angela are siblings. Can anyone help? -Daniel Mendez....d. C.
I have a Sebastian de Luna married around 1680 to Josefa Lozano, from Aguascalientes. The only Sebastian de Luna I've found around that time and region is the son of Luis de Luna and Josefa de Haro, or Esquivelm christened in Tlaltenango on 10 February, 1659. Could anyone confirm if he is the one married to Josefa Lozano?
Thank you,
Hector Felix Aizcorbe> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:23:11 -0700> From: annaa_smith@yahoo.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cecilia Lopez and Ortiz de San Pedro> > Cecilia's mothers name was Maria De Esquivel, she appears several times in the baptismal records of the early 1600's, in the priest notes He mentions her as the mother of Cecilia DE Lopez.> > arturoramos wrote: > Anna:> > As you have probably figured out reading 17th Century marriage records from Mexico, it was very common for people to take their maternal last names and in fact sometimes even the last name of a grandparent not shared by either of their parents.> > For example, Cecilia Lopez's husband, Hernando de Haro was the son of Juan de Miramontes and Maria de Haro y Saucedo. I believe that his mother's Saucedo comes from her grandmother who was also Maria de Saucedo and was married to Pedro de Bobadilla.> > Likewise Cecilia Lopez's brothers took their
father'
s surname, i.e. Ortiz de San Pedro, but she took another name, perhaps her mother's?... I don't have her mother's name anywhere... do you? Or perhaps even a grandmother. I have anecdotally found that children were often named for a grandparent and they were given the ENTIRE name, including surname of the grandparent. For girls, this would often imply giving them the surname of their maternal grandmother! > > BTW, what was the date of Luis Luna's wedding?> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> > > > ---------------------------------> Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> h
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This has been a question to me for a while. Although we are Mormon we still carry the tradition of Padrinoship. for instance mine are my grandfather and his 2nd wife. I have a question. can Padrinos be a brother and sister? Im trying to connect my Angela de Oropesa. In a document, it says "fueron sus padrinos Magdaleno Lopes de Oropesa y Angela Lopes de Oropesa. In our Hacienda any people with the same last name is related. Hence the intermarriage. The Oropesas came to our hacienda around 1890. The ones were named Thomas, Gervacio, Magdaleno and Maria Oropesa. They were said to came after my 3rd grt grandmother came named...Angela de Oropesa who married Jose Maria Hernandez de Solis. And had Eulalia de Solis. Who married Estevan Lopez de Duran who had Lorensa Lopez de Solis who married Celso del Camino y de Soto. Who had Antonio Lopez del Camino who married Maria Guadalupe Vasquez de Elizalde, who had my grandfather Antonio II del Camino. Anyway...The fact is on a relatives baptismal Magdaleno and Angela Oropesa were padrinos, but she cant be married to him because at the same time he was married to Francisca Garcia de Bedoya. So it has led me to believe that Magdaleno and Angela are siblings. Can anyone help? -Daniel Mendez....d. C.
is there a map that identifies all the ranchos in the Jalisco area here on file