I don't know any living male descendants of Domingo and Rosalia. Since I
descend from a female line I didn't trace the male lines. The best I can do
is the family of Rafael Puentes and Josefa Raigoza. I am attaching a family
Enrique,
The meeting time and place are:
Event Date: Saturday July 29, 2006
Event Time: 11:00 am to 2:00 pm
Place: Raley's Event Center
2400 Sand Creek Road
Brentwood, CA (near Antioch)
Dear Ranchos Members;
This is to announce that I have with Joseph and Arturo's help up-loaded two new files to my Genealogy folder.
See attached link, http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13982
Hi Alicia,
give us just a few more details. As in your research area included in
these files and some of the surnames included in the files.
thanks for your participation and the help you are giving to others in
the group. You are a valuable member, thanks!
joseph
Alicia Carrillo wrote:
>Dear Ranchos Members;
>
>This is to announce that I have with Joseph and Arturo's help up-loaded two new files to my Genealogy folder.
>
>See attached link, http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13982
>
>Atentamente,
>Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
give us just a few more details. As in your research area included in these files and some of the surnames included in the files.
The two files I up-loaded are from the maternal side of my familia, the Olmos, Ruiz, Ruiz de Esparza, Alvares, Muños, Luevano families. To date most of them come from Nochistlan and surrounding rancherias with one branch of Esparza/Luevano coming from Pabellon Rincon de Romos Aguascalientes around 1820.
This is hard loving work that will keep me busy for years to come.
See attached link, http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13982
Atentamente,
Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
Dear Ranchos Members,
I also have with the help of Arturo up-loaded my husband's genealogy GEDCOM file to my Genealogy folder. Looking forward to linking with other Ranchos Members.
Last evening after sharing what I thought was a link with Maria Cortez, she answered my e-mail with "It's a Match." After only 3 days of being a Ranchos member, a new found "cousin." "How Sweet It Is! " Hoping that, that match will also include Alicia's ancestry.
Patricia Silva Corbera
Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Dear Ranchos Members;
This is to announce that I have with Joseph and Arturo's help up-loaded two new files to my Genealogy folder.
See attached link, http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13982
Atentamente,
Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
not so quick. . .
. . .imagine this [can you hear all the other Rancho members saying,
"Here comes Joseph's little speech."] anyway never mind what they are
thinking. Imagine this: 200+ years ago your family and Maria Cortez'
family were really Tight! I mean they were blood relatives tight! I mean
they probably celebrated together and shared meals together and fought
together you know they were family and did all the loving and sometime
not so loving things that family does to each other. But still they were
family and blood family and loved each other like blood family does.
Anyway then along came "Something" I don't know a revolution, war,
migration, famine, any number of things could have happened and your
family and her family became separated. . .have you ever been lost from
another family member, well imagine that feeling on a permanent basis,
how terrible. But low and behold along comes Maria Cortez and then along
comes Pat Silva Corbera and they find each other again with maybe a
little push or help in there somehow from Deena Ortiz (who by the way is
a Nuestros Ranchos member as well). This is magnificient this is
wonderful this is the time for a party a fiesta its time to make a big
pot of menudo (I love menudo) and all the other delicious foods and time
to party down because for 200+ years you all were lost and for all
intents and purposes forgotten to each other but now you are Found. The
blood in you both must be rejoicing!
So with all that excitement I was hoping that the two of you could give
just a few more details of how EXACTLY you are relatives? I mean so it
so we can celebrate with you.
happy days. . . .many many congratulations!!!
joseph
ps: by the way Pat if you haven't already go to the albums and in the
folder with the Sacto meeting you should find a picture of your new prima.
pps: Maria is Pat also related to others in the Sacto group?
Patricia Corbera wrote:
>
> Last evening after sharing what I thought was a link with Maria Cortez, she answered my e-mail with "It's a Match." After only 3 days of being a Ranchos member, a new found "cousin." "How Sweet It Is! " Hoping that, that match will also include Alicia's ancestry.
>
> Patricia Silva Corbera
>
>
>
>
Just to clarify Patricia's message, she uploaded her GEDCOM to the GEDCOM database, so you can search her genealogy files by clicking the GEDCOM menu item at the top of the site.
You can simply enter a name or list individuals by surname by clicking on the "Surnames" menu option. If you want to see individuals only from her tree, you can simply use the pull-down menu and select her tree.
The most common surnames in her tree are as follows (you get a list just like this from the GEDCOM database):
1. Aguirre (13)
2. Perez (11)
3. Gonzalez (7)
4. Sandoval (7)
5. Losano (6)
6. Delgadillo (5)
7. [no surname] (4)
8. Andrade (4)
9. Chavez (4)
10. Rodriguez (4)
11. Velasco (4)
12. Garcia (3)
13. Plasencia (3)
14. Mercado (3)
15. Perez Sotelo (3)
16. Contreras (3)
17. Duran (3)
18. Ximenes (3)
19. Corona (2)
20. Lara (2)
21. Martel (2)
22. Torres (2)
23. Corbera (2)
24. Islas (2)
25. Aguayo (2)
=====================
From: Patricia Corbera
Date: Wed Jun 14 15:28:12 CDT 2006
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New files up-loaded
Dear Ranchos Members,
I also have with the help of Arturo up-loaded my husband's genealogy GEDCOM file to my Genealogy folder. Looking forward to linking with other Ranchos Members.
Last evening after sharing what I thought was a link with Maria Cortez, she answered my e-mail with "It's a Match." After only 3 days of being a Ranchos member, a new found "cousin." "How Sweet It Is! " Hoping that, that match will also include Alicia's ancestry.
Patricia Silva Corbera
Hi Joseph and Fellow Ranchos,
Pretty soon, members are going to be saying... not that Pat person again...;-).
This is what I shared with Maria Cortez after seeing a message that she added to the info e-mail on the Brentwood meeting:
Bernardino Gonzales de Islas m. Mariana Moscoso Sandoval 21 Apr 1631, Nochistlan, this couple is my husband's 8th Great Grandparents. Tino's line/s descends from two of their daughters. Petrona Isles and Mariana Isla Sandobal/Sandoval.
Petrona m. Diego Delgadillo parents of Mariana Delgadillo m. Francisco Flores de Medrano parents of Mariana Flores de Medrano m Nicolas Diaz Montanez parents of Maria Diaz Montanez m. Joseph Gonzalez Losano parents of Juana Josepha Gonzalez m. Nicolas Jose de Sandoval parents of Juan Manuel de Sandoval m. Maria Gertrudis Velasco parents of Maria Rosalia Sandoval m. Jose Norverto Perez Rodriguez parents of Maria Ynes Rodriguez m. Jose Gabriel Perez parents of Jose Victoriano Perez m. Maria Aniseta Aguirre parents of Jose Fernando Perez m. Maria Hilaria Andrade parents of Maria Refugio Perez (my husband's mother)...
This is what Maria wrote back:
We have a match! I descend from Petrona de Islas m. Diego Delgadillo. I have your husband's ancestress Mariana Delgadillo christened 23 Mar 1655 in Nochistlan, Zacatecas in my database. Mariana is the sister of my ancestress, Thomasa Delgadillo. Thomasa married Diego Juarez, they were the parents of Josepha Manuela Juarez. Josepha Manuela m. Nicolas Vazquez. They were the parents of Rosa Maria Vazquez (my 5th great-grandmother). I'll stop here and can run a descendacy report if you are interested and give you more details. I found a lot of my older data in Jose Luis Vazquez's book Genealogia de Nochistlan.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Not too sure at this stage of our research the exact "kinship," Maria shares with my husband, but as soon as we get it all posted, we'll share it with the group.
Here's what PAF has from Maria's 5th ggmother to Tino...
Rosa Maria Vazquez and Florentino Corbera are 2nd cousins 8 times removed. Their common ancestors are Diego Delgadillo and Petrona Islas.
Pat
Joseph Puentes wrote:
not so quick. . .
. . .imagine this [can you hear all the other Rancho members saying,
"Here comes Joseph's little speech."] anyway never mind what they are
thinking. Imagine this: 200+ years ago your family and Maria Cortez'
family were really Tight! I mean they were blood relatives tight! I mean
they probably celebrated together and shared meals together and fought
together you know they were family and did all the loving and sometime
not so loving things that family does to each other. But still they were
family and blood family and loved each other like blood family does.
Anyway then along came "Something" I don't know a revolution, war,
migration, famine, any number of things could have happened and your
family and her family became separated. . .have you ever been lost from
another family member, well imagine that feeling on a permanent basis,
how terrible. But low and behold along comes Maria Cortez and then along
comes Pat Silva Corbera and they find each other again with maybe a
little push or help in there somehow from Deena Ortiz (who by the way is
a Nuestros Ranchos member as well). This is magnificient this is
wonderful this is the time for a party a fiesta its time to make a big
pot of menudo (I love menudo) and all the other delicious foods and time
to party down because for 200+ years you all were lost and for all
intents and purposes forgotten to each other but now you are Found. The
blood in you both must be rejoicing!
So with all that excitement I was hoping that the two of you could give
just a few more details of how EXACTLY you are relatives? I mean so it
so we can celebrate with you.
happy days. . . .many many congratulations!!!
joseph
ps: by the way Pat if you haven't already go to the albums and in the
folder with the Sacto meeting you should find a picture of your new prima.
pps: Maria is Pat also related to others in the Sacto group?
Patricia Corbera wrote:
>
> Last evening after sharing what I thought was a link with Maria Cortez, she answered my e-mail with "It's a Match." After only 3 days of being a Ranchos member, a new found "cousin." "How Sweet It Is! " Hoping that, that match will also include Alicia's ancestry.
>
> Patricia Silva Corbera
>
>
>
>
Enrique,
Are you also new to Nuestros Ranchos, If you are, welcome to this caring group of people who call themselves Genealogists.
I was born in a rancheria just outside of Tlachichila called Los Cardos and have lived in San Jose, Ca since I was 2 years of age. My father and padrino, (dad's brother) came first and worked in Los Gatos for the Novitiate Vineyards, they made the wine for the Catholic Church which was then consecrated for the priests' use in the mass.
Hi Alicia,
Have you had time to read Maria Cortez' e-mail about our match that I forwarded to you last evening?
Pat
Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Enrique,
Are you also new to Nuestros Ranchos, If you are, welcome to this caring group of people who call themselves Genealogists.
I was born in a rancheria just outside of Tlachichila called Los Cardos and have lived in San Jose, Ca since I was 2 years of age. My father and padrino, (dad's brother) came first and worked in Los Gatos for the Novitiate Vineyards, they made the wine for the Catholic Church which was then consecrated for the priests' use in the mass.
Among the family names we have are Avelar, Aguayo, Aguirre, Bargas, Carrillo, De la Cruz, Duran, Esparza, Frias, Garcia, Gomez, Guerrero, Hernandez, Jauregui, Luevano, Macias, Muños, Martinez, Olasava, Olmos, Ortega, Rubalcava, Ruano, Ruiz, Ruiz de Esparza, Sigala & Valades. I say we because both me and my husband are from the same region, he was born in Rancho La Trinidad and I in Los Cardos.
I live in Northern California and belong to the Northern California genealogists, an off shoot of Ranchos. We meet quarterly and the next meeting as noted below will be in Brentwood on July 29th. If you are interested I can ask Maria Cortez, the group facilitator and coordinator to add you to the list.
Here is a copy of the posting she recently sent out to the attendees along with the attachment that has the meeting place and the agenda.
Maria, See Enrique's inquiry below regarding the meeting in Brentwood in July. Enrique, please respond as soon as possible to Maria if you are interested in attending this meeting, her e-mail address is cc'd above. We would be glad to have you as a new member.
Atentamente,
Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
I am very curious about the meeting referenced below. I was born in Nochistlan, I have traced a bulk of my family (Legaspi, Frias, Huerta, Mejia, Jauregui, plus) over the years....This meeting in Brentwood California?
Enrique Legaspi
Hello all,
As our meeting date approaches I need to get a count of those of you who plan to attend our next meeting. We will be meeting at the Raley's event center in Brentwood. The room holds up to 18 people. The time and place are:
Event Date: Saturday July 29, 2006
Event Time: 11:00 am to 2:00 pm
Place: Raley's Event Center
2400 Sand Creek Road
Brentwood, CA (near Antioch)
Please let me know by Friday, June 9th if you plan to attend so that I can ensure we don't exceed the room's capacity.
I need a volunteer to take the minutes at the meeting and volunteers to present items of interest.
I am attaching the first draft of our next agenda. Please review and let me know of any additions or corrections. Thank you.
Maria-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
To post, send email to:
research@nuestrosranchos.org
To change your subscription, log on to:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
Well Look at you girl. Give you a computer with a few names on it, you join a new group and what do you have?
Let's make a match..............Can you hear me screaming with joy in celebration of your newly found connections.
Congratulations.......you are truly an inspiration for us all.
your friend,
Alicia
Hi Alicia,
Have you had time to read Maria Cortez' e-mail about our match that I forwarded to you last evening?
Pat
Dear New Found Friend/s, and hopefully "familia," I wish I could take all the credit, but I can't. I have spent many hours in our local FHC, struggling, viewing film after film with little results. Some film orders dating back to 1996. My on and off again research with my husband's ancestry took a back seat to my own Portuguese ancestry, with his being put on the shelf collecting dust.. But each time I picked it up, I also put it back down. About 4 years ago, I picked it up again. This time someone named Deena Ortiz, responded to a posting that I had placed on one of those online "message boards. " One thing lead to another, with exchanged e-mails, and her sending me a GEDCOM file. I owe her so much! Well, as the story goes, once again the binders went back on the shelf, until three days ago. I still don't know how I came upon NuestrosRanchos website, but I did, and the rest is history. I truly believe that our love ones that no longer walk this earth with us, are
still in our lives guiding our way to new found family.
OK! Alicia you're next...
Pat
Patricia Silva Corbera
Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Well Look at you girl. Give you a computer with a few names on it, you join a new group and what do you have?
Let's make a match..............Can you hear me screaming with joy in celebration of your newly found connections.
Congratulations.......you are truly an inspiration for us all.
your friend,
Alicia
Hi Alicia,
Have you had time to read Maria Cortez' e-mail about our match that I forwarded to you last evening?
Pat
Thank you Alicia. I did as you suggested and it was a big help.
I was at my Family History Center today. It's in Hacienda Heights, in the San Gabriel Valley just east of Los Angeles. I told the head of the library, Kim Austin, about this site and she plans to join us.
Hi Joseph,
Yes, that is me who has studied Ixtlahuacan del Rio, Jalisco records. I
have the Rafael Puentes m. to Josefa Raigoza in my database. Rafael is the
son of Domingo Puentes and Rosalia Diaz. I have not found the names of the
Yes My Puentes married into the Diaz line and were related in various
ways but mostly in Santa Maria de los Angeles and Colotlan. I haven't
connected to this group of either Puentes or Diaz. Maybe we'll have to
ask the group going to SLC to do a look up for us on the 1 May 1782
Cuquio, Jalisco film Matrimonios 1762-1787,1789-1795 - FHL INTL Film [
617582 ] for the parents of Domingo and Rosalia.
thanks,
joseph
ps: you don't happen to know any currently living Puentes or Diaz that
are definitely related to your Domingo or Rosalia do you? If you did we
could do a YDNA check on them with my Puentes and Diaz.
Title
Registros parroquiales, 1663-1962
Authors
Iglesia Católica. San Felipe (Cuquío, Jalisco) (Main Author)
Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo de la parroquia.
Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriage petitions,
marriages, and deaths from Cuquío, Jalisco, Mexico.
Subjects
México, Jalisco, Cuquío - Church records
Format
Manuscript (On Film)
Language
Spanish
Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1963
Physical
135 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.
Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Matrimonios 1762-1787,1789-1795 - FHL INTL Film [ 617582 ]
Maria Cortez wrote:
>Hi Joseph,
>
>Yes, that is me who has studied Ixtlahuacan del Rio, Jalisco records. I
>have the Rafael Puentes m. to Josefa Raigoza in my database. Rafael is the
>son of Domingo Puentes and Rosalia Diaz. I have not found the names of the
>parents for Domingo or Rosalia. I do know that they were married on 1 May
>1782, in Cuquio, Jalisco. Are your Puentes married into the Diaz family
>too? I think that's what made me think we're related, but we haven't made
>the connection. I haven't ordered any film in a while, so I haven't made
>much progress lately.
>
>Maria
>
>
>
>
>>Message: 4
>>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:02:59 -0500
>>From: Joseph Puentes
>>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ixtlahuacan del Rio, Jalisco
>>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>Message-ID: <448DF2A3.1030803@nc.rr.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>
>>Who in the group is studying the Ixtlahuacan del Rio, Jalisco area?
>>Awhile back, quite awhile back I was trying to tie into the Puentes from
>>this area. Is that you Maria Cortez. I was wanting to know the parents
>>of Rafael Puentes who was married to Josefa Raigoza AND of Domingo
>>Puentes who was married to Rosalia Diaz on the 1817 Census for the
>>community called "Changanga."
>>
>>joseph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
For those researching Huejucar and Calvillo, a long time ago I took the following note from "Historia del estado de Aguascalientes" by Agustin R. Gonzalez, Mexico 1881 [my translation]. Unfortunately I can't remember where I read or found the book:
Gloria
Thanks for your reply, being that in the near future I will begin ordering films from both Aguascalientes and Jalpa, this definition of the Valle de Huejucar comes in very handy. Isn't Jalpa now in the jurisdiction of Juchipila and I have always heard it mentioned as El Canyon de Juchipila, the Canyon of Juchipila.
I will do a search to see if I can come up with this book by Agustin Gonzalez.
Thanks,
Alicia
For those researching Huejucar and Calvillo, a long time ago I took the following note from "Historia del estado de Aguascalientes" by Agustin R. Gonzalez, Mexico 1881 [my translation]. Unfortunately I can't remember where I read or found the book:
Valle de Huejucar (Guaxucar, Huajucar), at or near Calvillo, Aguascalientes, was within the original limits of Xalpa (Jalpa) and became a community center for the surrounding haciendas early in the 18th century. pg 43
"CALVILLO. Se inicio su fundacion como consecuencia del auto proveido el 18 de noviembre de 1771, por el senor Canonigo y Doctor don Manuel Colon de Larreaegui gobernador por 'sede vacante' de la Mitra de Guadalajara, que erigio el Curato o parroquia de 'S. Jose de Huajucar' (o "Guajucar') en el Valle del mismo nombre, segregandolo del de Tabasco, Zac., en terrenos que pertenecieron al antiguo rancho o hacienda, cedidos por el prominente vecino don Jose CALVILLO, en cuyo honor tomo su apellido como titulo, a partir de febrero de 1825." pg 22
Does anyone know which particular don Jose CALVILLO this one was? I've never been able to find out. Hope this helps.
Gloria (Calvillo)
For those that are doing research in both areas have you ever had a look
at this film? It is pretty current 1905, but my curiosity makes me want
to see what's on the film. Is El Refugio close to Momax?:
Joseph, I was just reading the exchange between you and Arturo about the El Paso, Texas Border crossing records. In my husband's family "treasure chest of documents," we came across one for his paternal grandmother, Trinidad Serrano, dated Aug 19, 1927. The wonderful thing about this document is that it has a picture of Trinidad. For those list members that have never seen one, in a couple of days I'll scan the one I have, and place it on my "La Casita Corbera webpage." The cost of this alien head-tax was $8.00 representing head-tax assessed by the US Immigration Service Mexican Border District... It's signed by J. H. Lane, Bridge Collecter for the El Paso Electric Co. El Paso, Texas. Pat
Joseph Puentes wrote:
For those that are doing research in both areas have you ever had a look
at this film? It is pretty current 1905, but my curiosity makes me want
to see what's on the film. Is El Refugio close to Momax?:
Title
Registros parroquiales, 1905-1919
Authors
Iglesia Católica (El Refugio, Jalisco) (Main Author)
Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo de la parroquia de Santo Tomás
Apóstol en Momax, Zacatecas.
Contenido: Bautismos, 1905-1919.
El rancho de El Refugio forma parte del municipio de Colotlán.
Parish registers of baptisms from El Refugio (Colotlán), Jalisco, Mexico.
Subjects
México, Jalisco, El Rufugio (Colotlán) - Church records
Format
Manuscript (On Film)
Language
Spanish
Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1962
Physical
1 rollo de microfilme ; 35 mm.
Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Registros parroquiales - VAULT INTL Film [ 444024 ]
© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.
Joseph, I have added the Alien Head-Tax Receipt to my website. It can be viewed at this URL http://www.geocities.com/papagaia2/trinidad.htm
Pat
Patricia Corbera wrote:
Joseph, I was just reading the exchange between you and Arturo about the El Paso, Texas Border crossing records. In my husband's family "treasure chest of documents," we came across one for his paternal grandmother, Trinidad Serrano, dated Aug 19, 1927. The wonderful thing about this document is that it has a picture of Trinidad. For those list members that have never seen one, in a couple of days I'll scan the one I have, and place it on my "La Casita Corbera webpage." The cost of this alien head-tax was $8.00 representing head-tax assessed by the US Immigration Service Mexican Border District... It's signed by J. H. Lane, Bridge Collecter for the El Paso Electric Co. El Paso, Texas. Pat
Joseph Puentes wrote:
For those that are doing research in both areas have you ever had a look
at this film? It is pretty current 1905, but my curiosity makes me want
to see what's on the film. Is El Refugio close to Momax?:
Title
Registros parroquiales, 1905-1919
Authors
Iglesia Católica (El Refugio, Jalisco) (Main Author)
Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo de la parroquia de Santo Tomás
Apóstol en Momax, Zacatecas.
Contenido: Bautismos, 1905-1919.
El rancho de El Refugio forma parte del municipio de Colotlán.
Parish registers of baptisms from El Refugio (Colotlán), Jalisco, Mexico.
Subjects
México, Jalisco, El Rufugio (Colotlán) - Church records
Format
Manuscript (On Film)
Language
Spanish
Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1962
Physical
1 rollo de microfilme ; 35 mm.
Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Registros parroquiales - VAULT INTL Film [ 444024 ]
© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.
this is very interesting information about the Alien Head Tax. I just
sent off an email to the El Paso Electric company asking if they know
where these records might be archived (that is if they weren't destroyed),
joseph
El Paso Electric Main Offices
Toll free: 1-800-592-1634
(915) 543-5711
Mailing Address
El Paso Electric
P.O. Box 982
El Paso, Texas 79960
Customer Service Lines
Texas (915) 543-5970
New Mexico (505) 526-5555
e-mail: customerservices@epelectric.com
Patricia Corbera wrote:
>Joseph, I have added the Alien Head-Tax Receipt to my website. It can be viewed at this URL http://www.geocities.com/papagaia2/trinidad.htm
> Pat
>
>Patricia Corbera wrote:
> Joseph, I was just reading the exchange between you and Arturo about the El Paso, Texas Border crossing records. In my husband's family "treasure chest of documents," we came across one for his paternal grandmother, Trinidad Serrano, dated Aug 19, 1927. The wonderful thing about this document is that it has a picture of Trinidad. For those list members that have never seen one, in a couple of days I'll scan the one I have, and place it on my "La Casita Corbera webpage." The cost of this alien head-tax was $8.00 representing head-tax assessed by the US Immigration Service Mexican Border District... It's signed by J. H. Lane, Bridge Collecter for the El Paso Electric Co. El Paso, Texas. Pat
>
>
That's great, anxious to see what they have to say. Maybe FHC filmed them... Pat
Joseph Puentes wrote: this is very interesting information about the Alien Head Tax. I just
sent off an email to the El Paso Electric company asking if they know
where these records might be archived (that is if they weren't destroyed),
joseph
El Paso Electric Main Offices
Toll free: 1-800-592-1634
(915) 543-5711
Mailing Address
El Paso Electric
P.O. Box 982
El Paso, Texas 79960
Customer Service Lines
Texas (915) 543-5970
New Mexico (505) 526-5555
e-mail: customerservices@epelectric.com
Patricia Corbera wrote:
>Joseph, I have added the Alien Head-Tax Receipt to my website. It can be viewed at this URL http://www.geocities.com/papagaia2/trinidad.htm
> Pat
>
>Patricia Corbera
wrote:
> Joseph, I was just reading the exchange between you and Arturo about the El Paso, Texas Border crossing records. In my husband's family "treasure chest of documents," we came across one for his paternal grandmother, Trinidad Serrano, dated Aug 19, 1927. The wonderful thing about this document is that it has a picture of Trinidad. For those list members that have never seen one, in a couple of days I'll scan the one I have, and place it on my "La Casita Corbera webpage." The cost of this alien head-tax was $8.00 representing head-tax assessed by the US Immigration Service Mexican Border District... It's signed by J. H. Lane, Bridge Collecter for the El Paso Electric Co. El Paso, Texas. Pat
>
>
Who in the group is studying the Ixtlahuacan del Rio, Jalisco area?
Awhile back, quite awhile back I was trying to tie into the Puentes from
this area. Is that you Maria Cortez. I was wanting to know the parents
The first digitized records are now online, according to my sources in Salt Lake City.
They tell me that their original estimate to digitize all the records in their mountain vault would take SEVENTY-FIVE YEARS!
Hi All,
I'm a little late in trying to catch up with what is
going on at Nuestros Ranchos. I just came across this
e-mail sent by Ernie in regards to the digitized
records that are now on-line. How are they accessed?
Will they be available on the Family Search website?
Thank you!
-Esther
Ernie (or ayone else):
Do you have any idea where we can see the digitized records that they have already put online?
The only way that the database can link back to the familysearch website is if
the batch number is entered exactly as it would be in the familysearch site,
so therefore only one batch number can be entered in every entry.
Arturo, would it be possible to show the format that you would like us to use when making this listing?
Pat
Arturo Ramos wrote:
Erlinda:
The only way that the database can link back to the familysearch website is if
the batch number is entered exactly as it would be in the familysearch site,
so therefore only one batch number can be entered in every entry.
I was not aware that there could be multiple batch numbers for the same film.
If there is a way to differentiate what information is in each batch, can you
please enter that as part of the film description.
Thanks for your contributions to the database.
=====================
From: longsjourney
Date: Sun Jun 11 19:12:03 CDT 2006
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Batch #
Joseph, I got confused when I found so many batch numbers for some films in
Jerez Zacatecas, was I supposed to list each individually or is there a way to
put them all on one?
Linda Castanon-Long
Patricia:
If you look in the Films section and find a municipality that has films already listed you will see what the batch descriptions look like... they are usually some description like "Baptisms" or "Marriages" or "Baptisms (Boys)", etc. You will then need to enter the begin date and the end date of the film(s) that the batch covers as well as the batch number and the film number. If you happen to have the film on indefinite loan, you should enter your name in the "Borrower" field otherwise leave this blank.
Here is an example from Arandas:
Baptisms Boys 1803-1818 279530 J602955
Baptisms Girls 1803-1818 279530 K602955
Marriages 1802-1812 279674 M604429
Arturo, thank you. Pat
arturoramos wrote:
Patricia:
If you look in the Films section and find a municipality that has films already listed you will see what the batch descriptions look like... they are usually some description like "Baptisms" or "Marriages" or "Baptisms (Boys)", etc. You will then need to enter the begin date and the end date of the film(s) that the batch covers as well as the batch number and the film number. If you happen to have the film on indefinite loan, you should enter your name in the "Borrower" field otherwise leave this blank.
Here is an example from Arandas:
Baptisms Boys 1803-1818 279530 J602955
Baptisms Girls 1803-1818 279530 K602955
Marriages 1802-1812 279674 M604429
Okay folks who is game for some work for a worthwhile cause???
Arturo has poured his hard work and labor (thanks Arturo) into building
this site and especially great is the "Films" area of the site where you
Hello Joseph,
Could someone explain to me just what the purpose of this Film section
area is for? What does it contain that the library catalog does not?
--
Best regards,
Stuart mailto:stuart-ranchos@comcast.net
The added value of the films section is the ability to search by location and date. By entering batch numbers in familysearch you are able to perform all sorts of interesting wildcard search functions, including simply listing everything that is on the batch. By clicking on the IGI or VRI button next to a film listing, it will automatically take you to the familysearch site and list everything on that batch. At that point you can simply refine the search down by last name, by entering a parent's name, etc. You can leave everything else as a blank or a wildcard.
The library catalog does not list batch numbers so having them available and then directly linked to the search function can be very helpful when doing searches.
There are a couple of postings about the use of wildcards. You can search for "wildcard" and you will find them
Joseph, I got confused when I found so many batch numbers for some films in Jerez Zacatecas, was I supposed to list each individually or is there a way to put them all on one?
Linda Castanon-Long
Just start entering them one at a time. Get your list of batch numbers
and start listing them exactly as you see them listed in the IGI making
sure to supply all the info given in Arturo's database.
thanks for your willingness to do this. Oh and if you have any of the
films on permanent hold list yourself in the database. If you see a film
already entered don't reenter it but you can edit it with your name as
well if you happen to own it. I think there is enough room there to add
another name (not sure).
joseph
ps: if you have any questions ask about this again.
longsjourney wrote:
>Joseph, I got confused when I found so many batch numbers for some films in Jerez Zacatecas, was I supposed to list each individually or is there a way to put them all on one?
>
>Linda Castanon-Long
Maybe I will try this as soon as I finish my Italian class.
Mickey
Bonjourno. . .is that thank? Anyway thanks glad to have all the help we
can get for this. Just a little here and a little there will eventually
add up.
joseph
MMG8938@aol.com wrote:
>Joseph:
>
>Maybe I will try this as soon as I finish my Italian class.
>
>Mickey
lol. not quite. buon giorno is good morning/good day. grazie is thank
you. ummm, that is if you were going for italian.
margot
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Joseph Puentes makas@nc.rr.com
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:49:29 -0500
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Add Batch Numbers to Film Area
Bonjourno. . .is that thank? Anyway thanks glad to have all the help we
can get for this. Just a little here and a little there will eventually
add up.
joseph
MMG8938@aol.com wrote:
>Joseph:
>
>Maybe I will try this as soon as I finish my Italian class.
>
>Mickey
Joseph...
...I think you meant to say "grazie" for "thank you" instead of "Hello" or
"Good Day".....:-) I will probably also get on this bandwagon after I am
back home in Texas and settled.....back into my routine! Let me get over my
jet lag first, ok?
Thanks!
Josie in Beautiful Switzerland......
-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Joseph
Puentes
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 1:49 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Add Batch Numbers to Film Area
Bonjourno. . .is that thank? Anyway thanks glad to have all the help we can
get for this. Just a little here and a little there will eventually add up.
joseph
MMG8938@aol.com wrote:
>Joseph:
>
>Maybe I will try this as soon as I finish my Italian class.
>
>Mickey
thank you. i hope i can help out.
margot
Original Message:
-----------------
From: ylricro ylricro@att.net
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:05:51 -0700 (PDT)
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Hi,
My name is Daniel and I am doing research on my ancestors who were from:
#1-San Juan de Los Lagos, Jalisco (mid 1800s)
#2-Mascota, Jalisco (mid 1800s)
#3-Sombrerete, Zacatecas (early 1800s), familia de Onofre Eulogio Ortiz y
Rojasd5@aol.com wrote:
>Hi,
>My name is Daniel and I am doing research on my ancestors who were from:
> #1-San Juan de Los Lagos, Jalisco (mid 1800s)
>#2-Mascota, Jalisco (mid 1800s)
>#3-Sombrerete, Zacatecas (early 1800s), familia de Onofre Eulogio Ortiz y
>Juana Guerra Carrillo
>
>I have found the records for Mascota and San Juan to be scarce and the
>Sombrerete records for that time period do not show any families with last name
>Ortiz so that the Sombrerete film turned out to be a dead end.
>
Not sure what time period you meant by early 1800's but for the batch
number that covers 1802-1824 I found a few Ortiz'. Have a try in the
Film section under Zacatecas and then under Sombrerete or other
locations listed for some of your other families:
1. JUAN JOSE DAMACIO ORTIS RODRIGUES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 NOV 1802 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
2. JOSE LUIS ORTIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 AUG 1818 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
3. JOSE ESTEBAN ROSA ORTIZ ROSALES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 SEP 1823 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
4. JOSE CASIMIRO DE LA LUZ ORTIZ SALAIZA - International
Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 MAR 1824 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
5. MARIA FRANCA. DE SALES ORTIS NAVARRO - International Genealogical
Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 FEB 1803 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
6. MARIA DOROTEA ORTIS PARRA - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 13 FEB 1803 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
7. MARIA SESARIA GUADALUPE ORTIZ - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 FEB 1803 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
8. MARIA JOSEFA CELEDONIA ORTIZ ONTIBEROZ - International
Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 MAR 1803 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
9. MA. BLAZA FRANCA. ORTIZ CHAVES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 FEB 1823 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
10. MARIA RICARDA BENITA ORTIZ BUENRROSTRO - International
Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 APR 1823 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
and for 1824-1841:
1. CRESENCIO ANASTACIO ORTIZ - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 APR 1840 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
2. TEODORA VICENTA ORTIS RANGEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 APR 1841 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
3. PRICILIANO ARCADIO ORTIZ GALLEGOS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 JAN 1840 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
4. JUANA DOMINGA ORTIZ RUIZ - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 12 MAY 1840 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
5. LINA SIMONA DE LA SOLEDAD ORTIZ ROMERO - International
Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 SEP 1833 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
6. MERSED COSME DAMIAN ORTIS CALDERON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 SEP 1840 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
7. JOSE MANL. BENITO ORTIZ SAUSEDO - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 JUN 1824 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
8. MARIA BACILIA ORTIZ CHAVES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 APR 1825 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
9. MA. CLEOFAS TORIBIA ORTIZ HERNZ. - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 APR 1833 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
10. MARIA SIMONA CARLOS ORTIZ SOTO - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 NOV 1839 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
11. MARIA FELIPA SANTIAGA ORTIS YBARRA - International Genealogical
Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 MAY 1841 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
12. LADISLAO MARCIAL ORTEZ TORRES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 JUN 1839 San Juan Bautista, Sombrerete,
Zacatecas, Mexico
Good to see you corresponding with us.
Rickie
If you ever click on a link that is suppose to go to the website and get
a nasty little message like this:
"ACCESS DENIED"
well that is because you weren't logged in. It is also possible that if
According to the website 70 members are signed up for the Announce list.
So If I'm understanding things correctly 70 of you should receive this.
Helyn and Mickey are you there?
If you receive this email then you are properly subscribed. Helyn resend
The Johnson County Central Resource Library (in Kansas) has a blog
about me that I will share with you. Marge V:) Here's the link!
http://jocolibrary.blogspot.com/2006/05/meet-library-staff-marge-
vallazza.html
Something new about my research? Elusive ancestors hiding in the hills of
Aguas and Zac...The Bobadilla's, Carlos', etc.
Learned a few new tricks from Kitty. Boy, she is great. I have a lot of
work to do before I get to SLC.
I am researching the towns of Calvillo, Tlaltenango, Colotlan, and I have a
question. Sometimes the records state "Huejucar", is this the area? Is this
Calvillo? Or is the whole valley Huejucar. When did the area split
up>....I am thinking that I may be looking in the wrong place for some records.
Could some records from Calvillo be elsewhere? Where were the records sent - to
Guadalajara?
Am I making myself clear?
Mickey
MMG8938@aol.com wrote:
>Hello: This is Mickey Garcia
>
>Something new about my research? Elusive ancestors hiding in the hills of
>Aguas and Zac...The Bobadilla's, Carlos', etc.
>
>Learned a few new tricks from Kitty. Boy, she is great. I have a lot of
>work to do before I get to SLC.
>
>I am researching the towns of Calvillo, Tlaltenango, Colotlan
>
Cool. . .what are the Colotlan Surnames? Maybe you're my Prima.
>, and I have a
>question. Sometimes the records state "Huejucar", is this the area? Is this
>Calvillo? Or is the whole valley Huejucar. When did the area split
>up>....I am thinking that I may be looking in the wrong place for some records.
>Could some records from Calvillo be elsewhere? Where were the records sent - to
>Guadalajara?
>
I can only comment as I don't have answers. I know that it is a bit
confusing about the Valle de Huejucar and the Town of Huejucar.
the Valle de Huejucar is Aguascalientes I believe while the town of
Huejucar is just north of Colotlan and Santa Maria de Los Angeles in
Jalisco.
I need to apologize but I believe that Gloria Delgado (or was it Peggy)
sorry I can't remember, anyway she posted some material on the Parochia
del Valle de Huejucar on the old Ranchos yahoo group that I just
uploaded to the new site. I wanted to put it together but the Word
document is in the "reference material" section
(http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14529) while the jpeg fotos of some
census records of the Ranchos therein are in the Albums
(http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14526)
joseph
>
>Am I making myself clear?
>
>Mickey
>
>
Have I guessed the correct forum for posting this message? I'm not very good at discerning into which forum to post certain inquiries or comments - so I just hope for the best.
Anyway - What genealogy software do you use? How would you evaluate it (i.e., what do you like/dislike about it)?
nc_coleman wrote:
>Have I guessed the correct forum for posting this message? I'm not very good at discerning into which forum to post certain inquiries or comments - so I just hope for the best.
>
I'm not to checked out on the Mac software but with regards to the
different forums:
if it has anything whatsoever to do with genealogy research use the
Research Forum
I think you picked the perfect forum for this message
I would use the announce list if you want to announce something.
in time I think with more messages it will become clear.
sometimes progress involves a bit of discomfort. . .but we'll get there.
joseph
here are the addresses that can be found on the home page:
http://nuestrosranchos.org
general@nuestrosranchos.org
announce@nuestrosranchos.org
research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Anyway - What genealogy software do you use? How would you evaluate it (i.e., what do you like/dislike about it)?
>My only experience with genealogy software has to do with my husband's genealogy/family history. That was years ago, on a Mac - I used "Reunion". But we changed to a PC about 4-5 years ago, and I never got software for the PC (consequently my research slowed to a crawl - with occasional research, but notes all in longhand, and in assorted notebooks).
>NOW, we have a brand new computer - an iMac (very fancy). I will have to investigate the new generation of genealogy software. If you have any tips to share (general use of software; or specific tips) I would be most appreciative.
>Thanks all,
>Natalie
My sister and I only use Macs. My family has just about every Mac on the market.
We gave up on Reunion. I'm currently using MacFamily, a new software program developed in Germany. It has a few bugs, but it is cheap and being upgraded constantly.
MacFamily is the best option in my opinion. You can order it online. Try a google search for MacFamily. You can dowload a free sample then pay for a password for full access.
I personally like the Family Tree Maker 6.0. Its easy to use and I can store pictures and print reports easily. Actually, this is the only one I've used so I guess I have nothing to compare it to....
Peggy
p.s. Glad to be back! This new way of posting messages is kind of strange, and I haven't had time to do any serious research although about a month ago I made some good headway. I've started taking an online Sociology class at the local community college. It's been a long time since I've had to "read chapters" in a text book and it was a little slow at first. Anyway, hope this message posts....
erniealderete@charter.net wrote:
My sister and I only use Macs. My family has just about every Mac on the market.
We gave up on Reunion. I'm currently using MacFamily, a new software program developed in Germany. It has a few bugs, but it is cheap and being upgraded constantly.
MacFamily is the best option in my opinion. You can order it online. Try a google search for MacFamily. You can dowload a free sample then pay for a password for full access.
Family Tree Maker is incompatible with a Mac. She requested software recommendations for her new IMac computer.
Family Tree Maker is only operational with an IBM based PC, not an Apple computer.
good to have you back. . .6.0, hmmm, prima its time for an upgrade. .
.in fact its possible that you might need to upgrade just to get an
upgrade let me ask on the
FTM group. right now they went through 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 2005, and are
currently on v. 2006
joseph
Peggy Delgado wrote:
>I personally like the Family Tree Maker 6.0. Its easy to use and I can store pictures and print reports easily. Actually, this is the only one I've used so I guess I have nothing to compare it to....
> Peggy
>
> p.s. Glad to be back! This new way of posting messages is kind of strange, and I haven't had time to do any serious research although about a month ago I made some good headway. I've started taking an online Sociology class at the local community college. It's been a long time since I've had to "read chapters" in a text book and it was a little slow at first. Anyway, hope this message posts....
>
>erniealderete@charter.net wrote:
> My sister and I only use Macs. My family has just about every Mac on the market.
>
>We gave up on Reunion. I'm currently using MacFamily, a new software program developed in Germany. It has a few bugs, but it is cheap and being upgraded constantly.
>
>MacFamily is the best option in my opinion. You can order it online. Try a google search for MacFamily. You can dowload a free sample then pay for a password for full access.
Hey Joseph!!! I DO have the 2006...how did I come up with 6.0?? See...my brain is fried!
LOL
Joseph Puentes wrote:
good to have you back. . .6.0, hmmm, prima its time for an upgrade. .
.in fact its possible that you might need to upgrade just to get an
upgrade let me ask on the
FTM group. right now they went through 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 2005, and are
currently on v. 2006
joseph
Peggy Delgado wrote:
>I personally like the Family Tree Maker 6.0. Its easy to use and I can store pictures and print reports easily. Actually, this is the only one I've used so I guess I have nothing to compare it to....
> Peggy
>
> p.s. Glad to be back! This new way of posting messages is kind of strange, and I haven't had time to do any serious research although about a month ago I made some good headway. I've started taking an online Sociology class at the local community college. It's been a long time since I've had to "read chapters" in a text book and it was a little slow at first. Anyway, hope this message posts....
>
>erniealderete@charter.net wrote:
> My sister and I only use Macs. My family has just about every Mac on the market.
>
>We gave up on Reunion. I'm currently using MacFamily, a new software program developed in Germany. It has a few bugs, but it is cheap and being upgraded constantly.
>
>MacFamily is the best option in my opinion. You can order it online. Try a google search for MacFamily. You can dowload a free sample then pay for a password for full access.
I recently bought Family Tree maker 2006, it's great.
Also, they have included a 3 month free subscription
to Ancestory.com.
Joseph, thanks for sharing tips in a previous email on
entering information (resources), scanning in pictures
and documents. I recently viewed your updated info in
the files and it was great!!!!
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Saludos a todos,
I am planning a few trips to visit the UTEP special collection dept to see the documents of Cleofas Calleros. This local historian, author became the Mexican Border Representative of the National Catholic Welfare Conference Bureau of Immigration in El Paso in 1926 to 1968. He handled over 1 million immigration cases and from what I have seen of his documents he was a very organized and meticulous Rep. These records were donated to the UTEP Library and have all been sorted by surname and placed in acid free file boxes. Unfortunately the records for letters A-E were destroyed. If you know that your ancestor came thru El Paso e-mail me directly with the names and any pertinent info such as name of state, town of birth, spouse, parents. Remember that women used their maiden name. This info allows me to distinguish from many similar records. I will then get a copy and e-mail them to you. Some of these records have pictures, with these I take a photo and will
I don't know of any Puentes that might have come through during that
time period (mine came through in 1911), but sometimes there are finding
aids for these collections of materials. The next time you go can you
ask if they have a finding aid for this collection? If they do can you
photocopy it for me? Ask if they have other finding aids other than the
one I'm listing next?
I currently have a finding aid for this Film Series: UTEPMF489 Juarez
Cathedral.doc [Note to Mickey: this is the finding aid I was talking to
you about].
[[[[[NOTE TO GROUP: I have this finding aid in .doc format. If anyone is
doing Chihuahua research contact me OFF LIST at makas@nc.rr.com and I'll
email it to you.]]]]]
I hope others in the group that had relatives come through during that
time period take you up on such a generous offer to help.
Does that collection have any kind of index?
thanks,
joseph
Yolanda Bobby Perez wrote:
>Saludos a todos,
> I am planning a few trips to visit the UTEP special collection dept to see the documents of Cleofas Calleros. This local historian, author became the Mexican Border Representative of the National Catholic Welfare Conference Bureau of Immigration in El Paso in 1926 to 1968. He handled over 1 million immigration cases and from what I have seen of his documents he was a very organized and meticulous Rep. These records were donated to the UTEP Library and have all been sorted by surname and placed in acid free file boxes. Unfortunately the records for letters A-E were destroyed. If you know that your ancestor came thru El Paso e-mail me directly with the names and any pertinent info such as name of state, town of birth, spouse, parents. Remember that women used their maiden name. This info allows me to distinguish from many similar records. I will then get a copy and e-mail them to you. Some of these records have pictures, with these I take a photo and will do the
> same. I know that it will be alot of work but I know that I'm fortunate to have these records almost at hand. PLEASE let me know that you are a RANCHOS COUSIN in you subject heading, otherwise I won't open your
> e-mail. I know this will take a while and we will have hits and misses so, please be patient. If you make a request I will assume that you are giving me permission to copy your families documents.
> Adios PRIMOS
> Yolanda Medina Pérez
>
>
Best of luck to you. I just got a dozen letters all at once from the Department of Homeland Security. That return address just about gave me a stroke!
But the letters were in response to Freedom of Information requests I made on my Rodriguez relations who I know came thru El Paso in 1918, fleeing Hidalgo del Parral, Chihuahua which was then suffering the double whamy of the world-wide flu pandemic and the Mexican Revolution. I've seen my great grandpa Jose Rodriguez's passport, with the El Paso stamp in it, but Homeland Security found no record of any kind on him, his wife, or children.
I'm told the El Paso Library is a great source of genealogical records, but when I've called the phone is always dead. I learned that the libary is closed for remodeling. No one has been able to give me a re-opening date.
Supposedly everything is boxed and in storage.
Yolanda/Ernie,
I don't remember knowing that UTEP had such file boxes of border
crossing records...perhaps I'd heard and dismissed it because
my ancestors entered earlier than 1926. UTEP Special Collections
does, however, have a wonderful collection of OLD Mexican books,
and the periodicals has a good collection of Mexican newspapers
and documents. I found my ancestor's request to obtain rights
to a mine in Durango in 1860s or 70s. There are definitely good
documents there - most which I have yet to explore.
Regarding the public library...I can keep my eyes open and let
you know as soon as it opens up again. It looks like they're
almost done with the new development but I don't know how long
it'll take to set it all up.
Take care,
Connie Dominguez
El Paso, TX, USA
Connie & Yolanda: I number of years ago, I was of the understanding that a museum was going to be built in El Paso in honor of those wonderful men, women, and children that crossed from Mexico into the United States in the 1920's. Do you have any information on such a museum?
Gracias, Helyn
New wrote:
Yolanda/Ernie,
I don't remember knowing that UTEP had such file boxes of border
crossing records...perhaps I'd heard and dismissed it because
my ancestors entered earlier than 1926. UTEP Special Collections
does, however, have a wonderful collection of OLD Mexican books,
and the periodicals has a good collection of Mexican newspapers
and documents. I found my ancestor's request to obtain rights
to a mine in Durango in 1860s or 70s. There are definitely good
documents there - most which I have yet to explore.
Regarding the public library...I can keep my eyes open and let
you know as soon as it opens up again. It looks like they're
almost done with the new development but I don't know how long
it'll take to set it all up.
Take care,
Connie Dominguez
El Paso, TX, USA
Now this might not be too much help but awhile back Arturo Ramos posted
this message and it might be appropriate to revive it. I know the next
time I have some research time in DC this is the material I plan to
study. The 1920 Census records for my Puentes family indicates they
crossed in 1911. . .I'm hoping they are on this material. You never know
but maybe this film can be copied and distributed to some of the other
NARA branches in the US.
joseph
[ranchos] [Nuestros Ranchos] El Paso Records Exist!
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:18:10 -0800 (PST)
From: arturoramos2
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com To:
general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org References:
<20060226233008.16478.qmail@web36312.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I just received this letter from one of the archivists at the
National Archives and Records Administration. I will try to go
over sometime and see what I find and will report back...Dear
Mr. Ramos, This is in response to your email message of
February 27, 2006, requesting information relating to border
crossing records into El Paso, TX for 1916. We received your
request on March 1, 2006. The National Archives and Records
Administration has copies of passenger arrival lists (manifests)
and available indexes for most Atlantic and Gulf Coast ports
dating from 1820. The âEURoeAlphabetical Index to Permanent
Manifests into El Paso, 1904-24,âEUR? and the âEURoeAlphabetical
Index to Non-Statistical Admissions into El Paso, TX,
1904-24,âEUR? have not been processed for publication. They remain
on the project list. If you would like to research this film,
however, we can make the microfilm available to you. Please let
us know ahead of time because this accessioned microfilm remains
in the stacks and must be brought to the Central Research Room
and from there delivered to the Microfilm Reading Room. If we
can be of further assistance to you, please write or call
(202)-501-5395.Sincerely,Suzanne A. HarrisOld Military and Civil
RecordsTextual Archives DivisionEnclosures
New wrote:
>Yolanda/Ernie,
>
>I don't remember knowing that UTEP had such file boxes of border
>crossing records...perhaps I'd heard and dismissed it because
>my ancestors entered earlier than 1926. UTEP Special Collections
>does, however, have a wonderful collection of OLD Mexican books,
>and the periodicals has a good collection of Mexican newspapers
>and documents. I found my ancestor's request to obtain rights
>to a mine in Durango in 1860s or 70s. There are definitely good
>documents there - most which I have yet to explore.
>
>Regarding the public library...I can keep my eyes open and let
>you know as soon as it opens up again. It looks like they're
>almost done with the new development but I don't know how long
>it'll take to set it all up.
>
>Take care,
>
>
>
>Connie Dominguez
>El Paso, TX, USA
>
>
>
If you happen to be in Washington, DC June 30-July4
or July 7-11, you might want to take in the
Smithsonian's Folklife Festival on the National Mall.
This is the announcement regarding the Nuestra Musica
natalie coleman wrote:
>If you happen to be in Washington, DC June 30-July4
>or July 7-11, you might want to take in the
>Smithsonian's Folklife Festival on the National Mall.
>This is the announcement regarding the Nuestra Musica
>program. The other programs will be on Alberta, Canada
>and Native American Basketry.
>The Festival website can be found at:
>www.folklife.si.edu
>(This is one of my favorite activities of the summer,
>and I try to volunteer for a few days each year - a
>very rewarding experience.)
>
>(Joseph - is this an appropriate use of this forum?)
>- Natalie
>
Absolutely. . .I wish I was going to have more time when I attend DC on
the 4th for the parade I'll be in so I could attend this. It sound very
interesting.
joseph
>
>Nuestra Música: Latino Chicago is the third of four
>Smithsonian Folklife Festival programs of the
>multi-year Nuestra Música: Music in Latino Culture
>project, an initiative that explores and presents the
>diverse, evolving, and expanding universe of música
>Latina, which often unites and defines the largest
>minority group and fastest growing population in the
>United States. Other project components include the
>Smithsonian Folkways Recordings series
>Tradiciones/Traditions, Latino music sections in the
>Center for Folklife and Cultural Heritage and
>Folkways websites, and multimedia features on the
>recently launched Global Sound website.
>
>The 2006 program will highlight the music and cultural
>expressions of Chicago's diverse Latino communities
>and explore the role they play in shaping contemporary
>society, creating community, and confirming cultural
>identity. Two premier grassroots Latino music groups,
>researched and documented by Smithsonian Folkways
>Recordings, will complement the Chicago artists and
>reference the wider panorama of musical life in Latino
>USA.
>
>Musicians and dancers will engage the public in a
>variety of settings, including demonstrations,
>workshops, narrative sessions, and concerts that
>suggest a variety of community music events. The
>"coffee house" setting of La Peña, first introduced in
>the 2004 Festival program, will feature
>once-in-a-lifetime opportunities to hear musical
>exchanges between musicians from Chicago and recorded
>Folkways artists from other parts of the country.
>Mural and graphic artists will complement musicians
>and dancers by evoking the visual imagery of Chicago's
>Latino neighborhoods. Additional workshops will
>highlight Chicago's Latino radio traditions, foodways,
>and artisans whose crafts are related to music and
>dance.
>
>This program, produced in collaboration with Chicago's
>renowned Old Town School of Folk Music, complements
>the 10th anniversary of the School's Latino weekly
>musical event La Peña. California-based bilingual
>radio station, Radio Bilingüe, will continue to
>collaborate with the project and broadcast live from
>the Festival.
>
>
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According to the website 77 members are signed up for the General list.
So If I'm understanding things correctly 77 of you should receive this.
This email distribution list should be used for things of General
Champurrado (Chocolate-flavored atole)
I had no idea what Champurrado was before this message.. I had it for the first in Tapalpa Jalisco, you're right, it's an acquired taste... I couldn't get paste the texture. I also have to admit I didn't recognize most things I ate on this trip to Jalisco, Zacatecas and Colima! I discovered my family didn't cook anything like the ancestors did, we had Americanized almost everything..
Linda in Everette
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My grandmother used to make this and regular atole, but I never liked
it--EVER--I wanted to, to please her by consuming her delicious food
but yuck!!! I just couldn't drink it. My grandmother died 50 years
ago this month. How I wish I could really talk with her now about her
girlhood and HER grandmother. Marge:)
On Jun 8, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
>
> Champurrado (Chocolate-flavored atole)
>
> I had no idea what Champurrado was before this message.. I had it for
> the first in Tapalpa Jalisco, you're right, it's an acquired taste...
> I couldn't get paste the texture. I also have to admit I didn't
> recognize most things I ate on this trip to Jalisco, Zacatecas and
> Colima! I discovered my family didn't cook anything like the
> ancestors did, we had Americanized almost everything..
> Linda in Everette
>
>
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I just returned from our 31st Castanon Family Reunion in Stkn Ca. and had a family member ask if I had any information for her husbands family originally from Aguascalientes.. I found some information on Familysearch and am wondering if anyone in the group is working this Andrade line? Luciano Andrade and Antonia Montes were married in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes on Feb. 18 1835. Their son Pascual Andrade, wife Maria Augustina Lopez, married May 23 1859 are the parents of Luis Andrade June 1874, wife, Angela Mendez who are the parents of my relative Luis Andrade from Ca. I was amazed I could find this much online and am praying someone in the group has other information.
According to the website 76 members are signed up for the Research list.
So If I'm understanding things correctly 76 of you should receive this.
This email distribution list should be used for things of Research
The Texas Connection to the America Revolution Association is going to
be sending a group to Washington, D.C. for the 4th of July. At this
point it is very possible that I'll be driving the float. why don't all
I did get a response back from Joseph and it looks like the information for
the bishphoric of Guadalajara is filmed by the LDS.
I suppose one day I may decide to take a look at it and see what is in there.
Alicia's Genealogy: New files up-loaded