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[Fwd: COLOTLAN EN LA RED: No se lo pierdan!]

I'm trying to find out if there will be a web cast of this program. .
.otherwise some of you  that have shortwave radios might want to try to
find this



joseph



-------- Original Message --------

Subject: COLOTLAN EN LA RED: No se lo pierdan!
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:59:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Luis Pinedo
To: Colotlense




Colotlenses,
 
Este viernes 20 de mayo se transmitirá en red a todo Jalisco desde Radio Universidad de Colotlán el Programa Especial sobre nuestra historia, cultura, turismo ecológico y personajes de Colotlán, de 10:00 a 12:00 horas.
 
La conducción de este programa estará a cargo de Alonso Torres, quien tendrá como invitados especiales a los siguientes personajes: el Profesor Felipe Valdez Pacheco quien narrará algunas anécdotas sobre la historia y personajes de Colotlán; Lucy Vázquez que nos hablará sobre la historia de la famosa

Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo; Maria; Steven


I followed your instructions and received the following error message:





Folder Error Message!

The File You Are Looking For Is Inaccessible. 

 

 ------------------------------------
Richard A Flores
Sacramento/Santa Rosa
916-442-3369
-------------------------------------

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes
To: LosRanchos
Sent: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:28:32 -0500
Subject: [ranchos] Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo; Maria; Steven


albertodua, angelrcervantes, mistyriver123, quijote1945, readysetgo95814, sgapodaca  

Will the above members please try to access my personal briefcase to see if that will be a good place to store additional Files in the future.

You need to go to "Links" then to "Genealogies" then to Click on "AntonioPuenteAnnaPlacencia" and then see if you can access both either one of the files in my briefcase. If you all can then I might have found a solution to our storage file problem. . .at least it will give us an additional 30 mb which is more than we have now.

thanks,




Yahoo! Groups Links


How to Submit Genealogies

Well I prefer Genealogy reports but if you really want you can do
charts. Put them in .rtf or .doc format for genealogy reports or .pdf
for charts.



what genealogy program are you using? Send them to me and I'll make up
a folder for you in the Files area and only group members will have
access to them.



let me know if you need help with this,



joseph



craigtwatson@... wrote:

how do i submit my charts?
 

family="SCRIPT" ptsize="18">Irene Garrett Watson

Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo; Maria; Steven



albertodua, angelrcervantes, mistyriver123, quijote1945,
readysetgo95814, sgapodaca  



Will the above members please try to access my personal briefcase to
see if that will be a good place to store additional Files in the
future.



You need to go to "Links" then to "Genealogies" then to Click on "
class="title">
href="http://f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/makas_nc/lst?.dir=/Genealogies&.src="">AntonioPuenteAnnaPlacencia
"
and then see if you can access both either one of the files in my
briefcase. If you all can then I might have found a solution to our
storage file problem. . .at least it will give us an additional 30 mb
which is more than we have now.



thanks,

Arturo'sMiscFiles: was-Anybody Lost? Perdido?

Arturo I would ordinarily say yes as your work might help someone else,
but we are at 80% capacity in the Files area and I want to reserve that
for the new members who I am expecting to submit their genealogies in
the near future.



thanks for the offer though and if we figure out how to get past this
storage problem I'll let you know so you can post this work.



joseph





Arturo ROMERO wrote:



Joseph,
 
 
         I have files of families that I as of yet can not make
a connection to my own family. Would you be interested in posting these
as misc files? Let me know what you think.
 
 
 
Regards
 
Arturo Romero

Joseph Puentes wrote:



Is there anyone in the group that is just starting off in their

genealogy search and feeling kind of lost? Are you not sure how to

proceed? Are you in need of some ideas of where to and what to search?

This group is not only for the advanced and midlevel researcher but
also

and especially for the beginner

Arturo'sMiscFiles: was-Anybody Lost? Perdido?

Joseph,
 
             I understand your reasoning on the matter and agree with you. I will make a list of the surnames and email them to the group, and if any member wishs I can send them what I have
on the surname.
 
 
Regards
 
 
 
Arturo Romero.
Joseph Puentes wrote:

Arturo I would ordinarily say yes as your work might help someone else, but we are at 80% capacity in the Files area and I want to reserve that for the new members who I am expecting to submit their genealogies in the near future.

thanks for the offer though and if we figure out how to get past this storage problem I'll let you know so you can post this work.

joseph


Arturo ROMERO wrote:


Joseph,
 
 
         I have files of families that I as of yet can not make a connection to my own family. Would you be interested in posting these as misc files? Let me know what you think.
 
 
 
Regards
 
Arturo Romero
Joseph Puentes wrote:


Is there anyone in the group that is just starting off in their
genealogy

Telephone Oral History

Oh wow Emilie,


That is just terrible. But then I make myself wonder what if someone out of
the blue had called me and said this to me before I ever started doing my
geneology thing.


Plus a lot of us are not here legally, you know what I mean? So we just want
to keep a low profile. Of course their could be other reasons as well.


But anyways I will be praying you get a break through.



              ~~glo~~






From: "Emilie Garcia" 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: 
Subject: [ranchos] Telephone Oral History
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:38:37 -0700

Yes, Joseph, I too have had, if not hostile, then indifferent and evasive
reactions to my inquiries of distant cousins even here in the US. My sister
still lives in Silicon Valley where we were raised, and she found a second
cousin in the phone book that also lives in San Jose. He admitted being
related (his father and our father were first cousins), but when she asked
for a

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Telephone Oral History

Yes, Joseph, I too have had, if not hostile, then indifferent and evasive reactions to my inquiries of distant cousins even here in the US.  My sister still lives in Silicon Valley where we were raised, and she found a second cousin in the phone book that also lives in San Jose.  He admitted being related (his father and our father were first cousins), but when she asked for a meeting, he kept putting her off saying he didn't know anything about family trees, etc.  Our father and his father are long gone. He said his mother might have some pictures.  When my sister called the mother, she denied having any pictures or documents (which is hard to believe).  My sister has been calling his mother, and she keeps putting off meeting with her.  My sister tried calling the cousin again, and he had changed his phone number!  Talk about being wary and suspicious!
 
Since we are female, have no brothers, and my father had no brothers, my sister and I have been looking for male Olague relatives in

Telephone Oral History Script





Steve G. Apodaca wrote:

Perhaps, the best I may recommend is taking an interpreter, maybe a 
relative or a friend who speaks spanish, with you. Something  that I 
want to add about the phone calls, well, I don't know if this applies 
to all ranchos in Jalisco, but I believe that in some small pueblos 
people may be suspicious about giving information to a stranger on 
the phone. Joseph, can you tell us if you have had people reluctant 
or even hostile while asking for their ancestors' info?

Yes to both. Some are reluctant and some have been hostile, but those
are the minority in my experience. Maybe it has to do with my approach
or I don't know but most have been friendly. I can't judge whats in
their heart and as the majority I've spoken with have turned out not to
be relatives as far as I can determine it might mean that their refusal
to investigate in depth is truely a reaction as you've described. But
as has been mentioned in another message you need to really give a lot

Telephone Oral History Script

Perhaps, the best I may recommend is taking an interpreter, maybe a 
relative or a friend who speaks spanish, with you. Something  that I 
want to add about the phone calls, well, I don't know if this applies 
to all ranchos in Jalisco, but I believe that in some small pueblos 
people may be suspicious about giving information to a stranger on 
the phone. Joseph, can you tell us if you have had people reluctant 
or even hostile while asking for their ancestors' info? The idea of 
calling people is acceptable, but I would rather go to the pueblo and 
talk to the posible primos in person. Well that is my opinion based 
on my own experience. I grew up in Zacoalco and noticed that 
Jaliscienses (or jalisquillos as we are sometimes called), are at 
first a little bit suspicious of foreigners but as we get to know 
them, we are friendly to everyone. Some americans and italians living 
in the area visit my parents' restaurant every once in a while and 
even though my dad does not speak any

Telephone Oral History Script

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What can be done about those that don't speak the language?  I am
such a person.  It will be difficult to research the family by making calls
etc.  Even if I visited the parish where my greatgrandfather attended, I
wouldn't be able to ask to see burial records, grave records, christenings'
etc.

 


PTSIZE="18">Irene Garrett Watson

Telephone Oral History Script

Very good!  In fact, I'm going to use it.

Alberto.
--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> well, speaking spanish is a must. I didn't say
> speaking fluently but 
> near fluency is a must.
> 
> =============================
> 
> I just tell whoever answers that My name is Joseph
> Puentes and that I'm 
> calling all the Puente and Puentes' in the phone
> book to see if maybe we 
> are distantly related. I go on to say I'm a
> genealogist and have traced 
> the family back to 1730. Tracing my family history
> gives me great 
> enjoyment and I would be glad to share that
> information if i can make a 
> connection between our families. I tell them I think
> we're related 
> because most of the Puentes from [that area] are
> related one way or 
> another.
> 
> if the person answering is young then I ask if maybe
> their parents or 
> grandparents are available to speak with. I also
> make sure to ask if 
> anyone in the family is interested in remembering
> the history of the 
> family

Anybody Lost? Perdido?


Joseph,
 
 
         I have files of families that I as of yet can not make a connection to my own family. Would you be interested in posting these as misc files? Let me know what you think.
 
 
 
Regards
 
Arturo Romero
Joseph Puentes wrote:


Is there anyone in the group that is just starting off in their
genealogy search and feeling kind of lost? Are you not sure how to
proceed? Are you in need of some ideas of where to and what to search?
This group is not only for the advanced and midlevel researcher but also
and especially for the beginner. Remember the only requirements for the
group are to do your own research and submit your genealogy. So being a
beginner and serious fits that description and you need to ask your
questions and get started. There are some very talented people in this
group and if you ask your questions I will learn along with you as they
answer.

joseph

===============

Hay alguien en el grupo que es nuevo a la genealogia. . .alguien que se
siente poco

Anybody Lost? Perdido?


Is there anyone in the group that is just starting off in their
genealogy search and feeling kind of lost? Are you not sure how to
proceed? Are you in need of some ideas of where to and what to search?
This group is not only for the advanced and midlevel researcher but also
and especially for the beginner. Remember the only requirements for the
group are to do your own research and submit your genealogy. So being a
beginner and serious fits that description and you need to ask your
questions and get started. There are some very talented people in this
group and if you ask your questions I will learn along with you as they
answer.


joseph

===============

Hay alguien en el grupo que es nuevo a la genealogia. . .alguien que se
siente poco perdido en la buscadera? Si necesitas ideas de que or donde
hacer su investigacion mandanos sus preguntas. Este grupo no es nomas
para los Mas Mejores y los Medianos de genealogistas pero tambien quiero
decir especialmente para los que

Database: Who's Who

Thanks to everyone who entered their information.  I think it will 
become very benificial to all of us.

What I think is good about the database is that when you open it up, 
you are given that "Search This Table" input box.  If you type in a 
surname or a location, it lists out all the people searching that 
surname and or location.  A very useful feature, be sure to try it.

The fields in the table are:
Name
Email Address    {optional}
Research Surnames    {Surnames you are researching.}
Research Location    {Cities, Towns, Ranchos that your ancestors are 
from.}
My Location    {Your current location - optional}

So once you are on the database page you just select the 'Add Record' 
link.  Enter your information.  Then select the 'Add Record' button.  
You should then be able to see your record in the table.  The edit 
link will allow you to modify your record at any time.

That should do it...

Thanks,
Angie

P.S.  Isn't it kind of convenient that my record shows up first.  I, 
of

Telephone Oral History Script

cool, thanks Victor your help with this is fabulous. Now if we got a
few others to to send in suggested "Scripts" maybe we could end up with
a longer conversation at our hands.



thanks again Victor,



joseph



Victor Villarreal wrote:

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
  
(Start of message truncated)

Bear in mind that my spanish is "shaky." There are others in the 
    
group 
  
whose spanish is much more fluent. How about some of you taking 
    
what I 
  
said and cleaning up the Spanish. give us a more "refined" way of 
    
saying 
  
what I said. Show us how to say the same thing without broadcasting 
    
to 
  
the world. . .I'm not a native speaker of Spanish ANYMORE!


    
Spanish is my native tongue and, as you know, I live in México, José, 
so I took your suggestion and revised your script.  Hope it helps!

Here it is:

Buenos(as) (días | tardes | noches), me llamo José

Telephone Oral History Script

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> (Start of message truncated)
>
> Bear in mind that my spanish is "shaky." There are others in the 
group 
> whose spanish is much more fluent. How about some of you taking 
what I 
> said and cleaning up the Spanish. give us a more "refined" way of 
saying 
> what I said. Show us how to say the same thing without broadcasting 
to 
> the world. . .I'm not a native speaker of Spanish ANYMORE!
> 
> 

Spanish is my native tongue and, as you know, I live in México, José, 
so I took your suggestion and revised your script.  Hope it helps!

Here it is:

Buenos(as) (días | tardes | noches), me llamo José Puentes y le hablo 
desde (your place).  
Yo me dedico a la genealogía y he investigado el origen del apellido 
Puentes hasta el año de 1730 en Jalisco (y/o Zacatecas).  Encontré su 
número de teléfono en el directorio en la lista de los Puente(s).  
¿Podría hablar con el Señor o la Señora Puentes, por favor?

(Hopefully

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