International Phone Books: Was- Maria's sugestion for Argentine names

International Phone Books:



http://www.globalyp.com/world.htm

http://www.infobel.com/teldir/





unfortuneately it doesn't let you browse



joseph



zendean wrote:

Dear Maria;
    Thank you ever so much for your suggestion. Could you tell me how to see 
an Italian or German telephone book on the Internet ? I will quickly do what 
you have suggested. I have done 1890 to 1895 so far for the church in 
Argentina. I still have another 1,800 names to extract before I am finished. 
I will go over the names once again to try any new names that I find. I 
didn't recognize them as Hispanic/Spanish names, they appear odd, "Buachasa 
Lorenjasa", "Julijenta Chuebulan" and others that I have never seen before, 
or they appear spelled as I just spelled them or maybe I mistook the letters 
in the name and they are spelled altogether differently. Also, the church 
fathers making the entries use script and it is so hard to read. If they 
would use calligraphy so I could use my book, that would be

Behind the Name URL

I don't know about phone books but check out:
http://www.behindthename.com/ and click on their German and Italian
Names area for some ideas.



joseph



zendean wrote:

Dear Maria;
    Thank you ever so much for your suggestion. Could you tell me how to see 
an Italian or German telephone book on the Internet ? I will quickly do what 
you have suggested. I have done 1890 to 1895 so far for the church in 
Argentina. I still have another 1,800 names to extract before I am finished. 
I will go over the names once again to try any new names that I find. I 
didn't recognize them as Hispanic/Spanish names, they appear odd, "Buachasa 
Lorenjasa", "Julijenta Chuebulan" and others that I have never seen before, 
or they appear spelled as I just spelled them or maybe I mistook the letters 
in the name and they are spelled altogether differently. Also, the church 
fathers making the entries use script and it is so hard to read. If they 
would use calligraphy so I could use my book, that would

Maria's sugestion for Argentine names

Dear Maria;

Thank you ever so much for your suggestion. Could you tell me how to see
an Italian or German telephone book on the Internet ? I will quickly do what
you have suggested. I have done 1890 to 1895 so far for the church in
Argentina. I still have another 1,800 names to extract before I am finished.
I will go over the names once again to try any new names that I find. I
didn't recognize them as Hispanic/Spanish names, they appear odd, "Buachasa
Lorenjasa", "Julijenta Chuebulan" and others that I have never seen before,
or they appear spelled as I just spelled them or maybe I mistook the letters
in the name and they are spelled altogether differently. Also, the church
fathers making the entries use script and it is so hard to read. If they
would use calligraphy so I could use my book, that would be fine or print,
that would be fine. Each new priest has different script writing. Some you
may be familiar with are that some make a "J" and put a line through it and

Argentine names

Jose Luis,

I know that there has been a significant number of Italian and 
German Immigrants in Argentina.  Perhaps that's why the names seem 
so different from those found in other Latin American countries. 
Maybe you could try looking for Italian and German phone books on 
the Internet?  The names could've also been changed by the priest to 
sound more Spanish.  Like the name Lomelin was changed from the 
original Italian surname of Lomellini in Mexico.  Just a thought.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "zendean"  wrote:
> Joseph,
>     Thank you for the kind words about the work I do on 
extraction. Joseph, I have a problem that I hope that you could  
help   with. When I am doing the names on the records I often find 
strange names and spellings. I had a baby name book for naming kids 
and I wonder if there exists such a book for Latino kids. I thought 
that a phone book would help so I got one for a local city that has 
a lot of Hispanic families. There seems to

Teocaltiche Church Records

Dear Group Members:For those of you researching Teocaltiche, Jalisco,
Mexico,  I am viewing a film from the Teocaltiche church records
#0639009, baptisms 1889-1890. I am searching for my maternal
grandmothers' informaton, Juana Fuentes. She married Cresencio Avila,
son of Narciso Avila and Senovia Carrillo, date unknown. If you have
any names during that time line that you want me to look for while I
search, please let me know, I will be happy to do this. Hilda McGuire 



HispanicGivenNames: Was:Somos Primos May 2005/I'm Crippled

well I don't have any understanding of this subject like I'd like to
but here is a book that might have something to say about it. You might
want to do a WorldCat Search of it and do an ILL:


Title : Hispanic first names : a comprehensive
dictionary of 250 years of Mexican-American usage / compiled by Richard
D. Woods.
Author : Woods,
Richard Donovon.
Publisher : Westport, Conn. : Greenwood Press, 1984.
Subject : Names,
Personal
--Mexican
American.


Names,
Personal
--Spanish.

Names,
Personal
--United
States.

Description : xviii, 224 p. ; 25 cm.
Notes : English and Spanish.

Bibliography: p. [215]-224.
Series Title : Bibliographies
and indexes in anthropology, no. 1

ISBN : 0313241937 (lib. bdg.)

BrendeenLongoriaUnsubscription: Was-Somos Primos May 2005 lq]



no I don't think that will be possible. I'm deleting your folder as
well. I think a better option would have been to go "no email" rather
than Unsubscribe yourself but you know best. Come back in the future if
your time opens up, but have your genealogy in hand as i'll need it to
resubscribe you.



thanks,



Joseph Puentes

Owner/Moderator Ranchos Group



BRENDEEN LONGORIA wrote:


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Please cancel my emails.  I haven't had time to do genealogy and
read all the emails.  You can keep my family information and if anyone
finds any connections they can email me directly.  Thank you Brendeen
Longoria

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Please cancel my emails.  I haven't had time to do genealogy and read all the emails.  You can keep my family information and if anyone finds any connections they can email me directly.  Thank you Brendeen Longoria
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Puentes
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:07 PM
Subject: [ranchos] [Fwd: Somos Primos May 2005 lq]
 



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Subject: Somos Primos May 2005 lq
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:25:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: MIMILOZANO@...m
To: MIMILOZANO@...



Somos Primos  May 2005
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2005/spmay05/spmay05.htm


Hi . .   Hope all are enjoying the many Cinco de Mayo and other patriotic events being hosted all over nation.

May 12th is the first of the 2005 Hispanic American events being held at the National Archives.  (US).  The National Archives needs to know that we care about our history. Our history is embedded in the National Archives, but the rich abundance of

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Joseph,
    Thank you for the kind words
about the work I do on extraction. Joseph, I have a problem that I hope that you
could  help   with. When I am doing the names on the records I
often find strange names and spellings. I had a baby name book for naming kids
and I wonder if there exists such a book for Latino kids. I thought that a phone
book would help so I got one for a local city that has a lot of Hispanic
families. There seems to be a limited number of first names and surnames. I need
a better source. For example, I found a name that looked like "Eulalio Chuc" . I
have never seen the surname "Chuc" or "Toco" or "Andurate" Moratalla. I am doing
a church in Argentina and I guess the names are different or I am not that
familiar with "Oligalla Zulipata". See, I am not sure if such names exist or if
I am not reading them right. If I knew or had seen names like that, then I would
recognize them like " Jose", "Juan" or
"Julio".       You are a helpful person and
if

[Fwd: Somos Primos May 2005 lq]





-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Somos Primos May 2005 lq
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:25:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: MIMILOZANO@...
To: MIMILOZANO@...





Somos
Primos  May 2005


http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2005/spmay05/spmay05.htm





Hi . .   Hope all are enjoying the many Cinco de Mayo and other
patriotic events being hosted all over nation.



May 12th is the first of the 2005 Hispanic American events
being held at the National Archives.  (US).  The National Archives
needs to know that we care about our history.
Our history is
embedded in the National Archives, but the rich abundance of materials
that reveal our presence has not been fully gathered and indexed. 



The SHHAR quarterly meeting on May 21st will be a presentation
by UCLA Pprofessor, Dr. Guillermo Hernadez.  His topic, the historical
Corridos of Mexico, folk ballads of the people. 



DECIDED TO INCLUDE ALL THE TITLES

I'm In/Disc #102/Pedigree Resource File

lots of side branches, but some of them are not related as in the wives
of some my relatives. . .If I had the information there on a baptism
record I would record the wives parents names as well.



The way you can check my direct line and the various surnames that
contributed to making me. . .go to Antonio Diaz Puentes (my Dad using
the American style of naming) and click on his parents their parents
their parents their parents etc.



it should look like this Puentes: My Dad



then Puentes Diaz: My Grandparents



then Puentes Gonzalez and Diaz Santa Maria: My Great Grandparents



 then Puentes Varela and Gonzalez Gonzalez and Diaz Torres and Santa
Maria Espinoza: My Great Great Grandparents



then Puentes Torres and Varela Banuelos and Gonzalez ??? and Gonzalez
??? and Diaz Leanos and Torres Marquez and Santa Maria Miranda and

Espinoza Lugo: My Great Great Great Grandparents



and then Puentes Sanchez and Torres Marquez and Varela Sandoval and
Banuelos Sanchez and Gonzalez ??? and

I'm In/Disc #102/Pedigree Resource File

...I'd say that is just the beginning of a gedcom.  It is not unusual to have several thousand on your geedcom & if you get hooked you could easily go much higher than that.  I have barely begun my husbands side (April 2005) and it already has 1200.  Now I won't even mention how many I have on my side cause then you would think I have no life other than genealogy research...smile.  I will state that those that do hang in my Tree, have at least one verifiable document (birth, marriage, death, census, will, land record,etc) for that person.  I am on a quest to obtain a photo of each of them, which I know is impossible but it something I'd like to do so when I finally put it all together in book form it sure will make for a more interesting read.  Hope I haven't scared you but once you get hooked, it's hard to stop.....
 
Smiley


Emilie Garcia wrote:
Joseph,
 
   That was very interesting about your Gedcom.  I don't know anything about those.  I started looking at

I'm In/Disc #102/Pedigree Resource File

Joseph,
 
   That was very interesting about your Gedcom.  I don't know anything about those.  I started looking at the list of all the people on your  Gedcom, and I realized there are 1,610 individuals in there.  Who are all those people?  And this is just on your father's side!!??  Are they all your ancestors---your gggggg-grandparents, their siblings, and in-laws and all their descendants too?
 
    Emilie Garcia
     Port Orchard, WA
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Puentes
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:51 PM
To: LosRanchos
Subject: [ranchos] I'm In/Disc #102/Pedigree Resource File
 


This is my Gedcom and its online. . .so so sooooo cool!

click on the "submission search" link and then click on search and you'll see all the individuals that were on that particular .gedcom

now this motivates me to get my Mom's side updated and submitted. . .it tooks about 3-5 months from the time I sent it in to getting online

wow!

joseph

==================


Individual Record FamilySearch

Off-Topic: Hidalgo (do not reply on list)

do not just click reply to this email in replying to me!
Email me separately so it will not go to the whole group. . .Off-List!
thanks



---------------------



this is an example of how you can email the group with a rogue message
completely off topic.



I have a person who contacted me asking questions about Hidalgo
research. I've about exhausted the little I know and was wondering if
anyone in the group is familiar with Hidalgo? Or if you know someone or
a group that might offer my Hidalgo contact some guidance? Any
direction would be appreciated even if its the name of a paid
genealogist as this info might be of interest to this person.



PLEASE email me with any responses off list as this is way off topic,



joseph

I'm In/Disc #102/Pedigree Resource File



This is my Gedcom and its online. . .so so sooooo cool!



click on the "submission search" link and then click on search and
you'll see all the individuals that were on that particular .gedcom



now this motivates me to get my Mom's side updated and submitted. . .it
tooks about 3-5 months from the time I sent it in to getting online



wow!



joseph



==================


Individual
Record
FamilySearch™
Pedigree Resource File

Justo Puentes     Compact
Disc #102     Pin #157335

Sex: M


Event(s):
Birth:  abt
1749
Place:  Zacatecas, Zacatecas
Death:  UNKNOWN Place: 


Parents:
Father:  Antonio
Puentes
     Disc #102   

[Fwd: Mexico Research Outline [Family Search]]





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Subject: Mexico Research Outline [Family Search]
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:19:04 -0500
From: George Gause
To: 'George Gause'




Family Search: Mexico Research Outline



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color="#000000"> 

color="#000000">SOURCE: Ricardo Balli  BalliR@...

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FIRST MESTIZO.

I believe it took place in 1519, when Cortes first set foot on what 
is now Mexico. At that time there were only rumors about the big city 
of Tenochtitlan. I think Cortes was the third expedition to Mexico, 
because the first two had failed with many casualties. The author of 
the book, Bernal Diaz del Castillo, was actually part of those three 
expeditions, including the battles against the aztecs and the 
conquest of Tenochtitlan.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alberto Duarte  
wrote:
> What year did this take place?
> 
> Alberto.
> --- "Steve G. Apodaca"  wrote:
> > 
> > I just wanted to write something that I found out
> > recently while 
> > reading Historia de la Conquista de la Nueva Espana,
> > by Bernal Diaz 
> > del Castillo. Perhaps many of you know about this
> > story, but anyways, 
> > it is about the first mexican mestizo. It was not,
> > like I used to 
> > believe, from the union of Cortes and la Malinche,
> > but rather of 
> >

First Mestizo

There are a couple more of statues of Gonzalo Guerrero but the 
pictures are very small also.

http://www.undiscoveredmexico.com/rivieramaya/akumal/

http://www.e-local.gob.mx/work/templates/enciclo/qroo/Mpios/23004a.htm

And a painting:

http://www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/espanol/historia/personajes/detall
e.cfm?idpag=4167&idsec=5&idsub=0

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
> The date that Gonzalo Guerrero, father of the first Mestizos, 
arrived in the new world was around the Spring of 1511 on a ship that 
landed on the Yucatan Peninsula, possibly in Cozumel, or Zama or 
Tulum or Ple la Xelha of today, according to the article about 
the "Estatua de Gonzalo Guerrero". The bronze statue is in the city 
of Merida, and shows a Spaniard in full regalia with an Indian squaw 
kneeling at his feet.  The photo is so small, and I tried finding 
another larger photo on the Internet to no avail
> 
> Emilie
>    Port Orchard, WAGet more from

First Mestizo

Compare to other groups, we're fairly new.  But we are
special!

Alberto.
--- Emilie Garcia  wrote:
> The date that Gonzalo Guerrero, father of the first
> Mestizos, arrived in the new world was around the
> Spring of 1511 on a ship that landed on the Yucatan
> Peninsula, possibly in Cozumel, or Zama or Tulum or
> Ple la Xelha of today, according to the article
> about the "Estatua de Gonzalo Guerrero". The bronze
> statue is in the city of Merida, and shows a
> Spaniard in full regalia with an Indian squaw
> kneeling at his feet.  The photo is so small, and I
> tried finding another larger photo on the Internet
> to no avail
> 
> Emilie
>    Port Orchard, WAGet more from the Web.  FREE MSN
> Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
> 


		
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joseph/linking to World Connect: was-Request for Additional FileSp

Well, Joey, Pepe, Don Jose, my boy, I was just trying to give you the respect due a Webmaster, ha, ha.  OK, I will refer to you in future as Joseph.  You are not an old guy, I know; and at 66 I am probably the oldest member of this group.
 
I will send the links to you off-line and then you can see if you can put them on a file of links that point to my trees in World Connect?  Is that what you will do?  It will take me a while to figure out again how to bring up my trees so I can copy and paste the URL.  It always takes me a while whenever I send the link to others, since I am technologically challenged. I used to try and send the trees from the Ancestry.com site that I use to update them, but my sister said she was  blocked from accessing my trees from that site because she is not a subscriber to that site, etc.
 
Hasta Luego,
 
     Emilie
     Port Orchard, WA
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Puentes
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 5:14 PM
Sub

joseph/linking to World Connect: was-Request for Additional File Space

joseph



i'm joseph



not old fuddy duddy Mr. Puentes. . .actually "Don Jose" kind of sounds
appealing. . .



. . .well now that I've got that off my chest  8^)



. . .what would you like to do, learn how to set the link yourself (if
so contact me off list) or would you like for me to point your
genealogy toward World Connect? If the latter supply me with the URL or
URL's and I'll make up a folder for your in the "Links" area.



thanks,



Mr. Puentes (hmmmm. I mean joseph)



ps: now is this the face of an old guy?





Emilie Garcia wrote:


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 I had told Mr. Puentes

JPEG image

Digest Number 475

Google Mail.
I am sending you an invitation to google mail; they give you 1000 mg of space.


There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Archivo de Indias
From: Joseph Puentes
2. Target Area: Was- FIRST MESTIZO.
From: Joseph Puentes
3. Request for Additional File Space
From: Joseph Puentes
4. Delete
From: Joseph Puentes
5. Re: Request for Additional File Space
From: Smiley
6. Re: Delete
From: Smiley
7. Re: FIRST MESTIZO.
From: Alberto Duarte


________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:51:02 -0400
From: Joseph Puentes
Subject: Archivo de Indias

Archivo de
Indias
http://www.ldelpino.com/archivos.html




________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:18:13 -0400
From: Joseph Puentes
Subject

First Mestizo

The date that Gonzalo Guerrero, father of the first Mestizos, arrived in the new world was around the Spring of 1511 on a ship that landed on the Yucatan Peninsula, possibly in Cozumel, or Zama or Tulum or Ple la Xelha of today, according to the article about the "Estatua de Gonzalo Guerrero". The bronze statue is in the city of Merida, and shows a Spaniard in full regalia with an Indian squaw kneeling at his feet.  The photo is so small, and I tried finding another larger photo on the Internet to no avail.
 
Emilie
   Port Orchard, WA




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Request for Additional File Space

Good idea, Deena,
 
I had told Mr. Puentes that I do not have a genealogy program on my computer because it is old and does not have enough memory for one, so I was unable to upload any gedcoms to the Ranchos files.  However, I have many trees on World Connect and I offered to send a link to them.  I would need instructions on how to do that, since I am not all that computer literate.  I got my trees on World Connect by using the online Family Tree program at Ancestry.com.  It is very user friendly for me, plus I can store all my trees outside of my computer at a safe place where they won't get lost and where everyone interested can see them.  I update them there from time to time as I find more information.  I have been contacted by and been able to help others researching the same lines also.
 
    Emilie
     Port Orchard, WA.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Deena Ortiz
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:00 PM
To: ranchos@...m
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Request for Additional File