Nuestros Ranchos Site

I am hoping the subject line is NOT alarming - I just wasn't quite sure how title my query.
Anyway ... I was @ my local FHC on Tues./Jan 9 to view a film I had ordered before the holidays.
On the box was a sticker message that I don't recall ever seeing before (see below):
"WARNING!
By contract between the Genealogical Society of Utah (GSU) and the owner(s) of some or all of the included records, this microfilm may not be
SOLD, DUPLICATED, EXTRACTED, or INDEXED
except under limited circumstances.
For further information contact FAMILY HISTORY CENTER SUPPORT, SLC, Utah
VIOLATION OF SUCH RESTRICTION(S) MAY RESULT IN CIVIL OR CRIMINAL LIABILITY!"

Note: I looked at some of the other film boxes in the drawers, and not all of them had this notice.
So - does anyone know about this "Warning"? I did not make an inquiry about this while at the FHC.

Thanks for any enlightenment you can provide.

Natalie in Virginia
Researching: CASTRO, GARCIA, DUENAS, DURAN, and others in the Valparaiso District, Sain Alto, and Sombrerete of ZACATECAS

Does anyone else have lineage in Huanusco, Zacatecas?

I am Daniel. I am from the Mormon Church, the sticker isn't all that big of a deal. The reson why people haven't seen the sticker on the films in the drawers is because those films in the drawers were ordered before the year 2000. Before the year 2000 patrons were able to take the films to ther FHCs if they wished there wasn't a strict policy as there is now. But something happened that I cant remeber because I was about 8 years old, but in 2000 the Counci from the Church made an act of 2000 which stated "From this day forward Microfilms should stay in the FHC it was orderd from and cant be moved elsewhere. Something like that. So the sticker was added to all new films coming in 2000. The sticker is just saying if you take it, destroy it, sell it, or anything else without the approval of the LDS Genealogy Society's APPPROVAL than you can be fined or even accused of criminal actions. Beause in reality coping microfilm isn't the $5 or $6 you pay it much more. My estimation is about $15 to copy one microfilm and the church pays at the willing of their expense and if people take the church is just wasting their. They want anyone being able to work on their genealogy. I hope this helps. -Daniel A. Mendez del Camino :)

Juanita,
Sorry to delay with this reply. The Rancho San Mateo to which I refer is in the Valparaiso District. The City of Valparaiso lies 90 KM south-west of Fresnillo (it is due-west of the city of Zacatecas, but there is no direct highway between Zacatecas and Valparaiso). I believe the RANCHO SAN MATEO is about 15-18 KM north-east of Valparaiso (my best estimate from the map I am looking at; it is an older map - 10 yrs+ ).
I hope this is helpful. In what district is your San Matias?

Natalie

Hello Ranchos members:

I created a document with instructions on creating Rich Text Format (.rtf) files from PAF reports. I put it in the Reference Materials folder.

If something isn't clear, please give me your feedback and I will try to make the instructions clearer.

Maria Cortez

Now - it just occured to me that when she dies (which I don't expect to
happen soon), I WILL BECOME the family elder, as I am the eldest of the
family of my generation - kind of a scary thought.
SO - are any of YOU the FAMILY ELDER? How do you feel about that role? I
guess I better get cracking on my research.

Just my 2 centavos.

Natalie

Natalie,
You bring up a very important question. I'm probably towards
the younger end of my paternal generation, and somewhere in the middle
on my maternal line, so am far from being an elder. Our little subgroup
here in N. Calif. have discussed this. When I get a chance, I do send
vital copies of birth, marriage, death records to some relatives that
are interested--nothing complete though. Actually I did send a complete
copy of my paternal line to my uncle in Mexico who is very interested,
but he is in his 80's. Hopefully if something happens to him, the info
won't get tossed. His children are not interested either, but he does
have the habit of showing what I send him to others in the family. Some
have told me to send them a copy of my finished product. When is a
genealogist finished!?! :)
Since I'm about 8 years away from retirement, and have two
relatively young children (11 & 14), I feel very overwhelmed by the task
at hand. My 14 year old has already told me that she won't carry on my
research. :( My 11 yr old says he will, but most 11 yr olds will say
anything to make their mother happy. Knowing that I am not immortal,
and that death can come at anytime, I always try to keep my files backed
up in several places. Our subgroup whom I'm connected to also share all
that we have in common, so I feel that I've covered many bases. My
advice is share, share, share. Someone down the line will always catch
the bug, and carry on, so keep these records available to them.
Thanks for bringing this up,
Irma Gomez Gtz de Lucero
N. Calif.

Hello Maureen,

While researching microfilm for San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, I have
come across records from a Ranch called Ojo de Agua located in the
municipio of San Juan de los Lagos. I don't think that I have any
direct family from there, and being that I don't have any direct
Jaureguis in my family lines, I probably have not jotted down anything.
It wouldn't hurt to check out San Juan records.

Good luck.
Irma Gomez Gtz de Lucero
Northern Calif.

Message: 7
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 17:12:28 -0500
From: Joseph Puentes
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Origin of Catarina Jauregui
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Message-ID: <4599874C.1010507@nc.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

There is an Ojo de Agua in the Santa Maria de Los Angeles area of
Jalisco but not so sure it doesn't show up in the Colotlan records. . .I
can't remember which of these two it was that the actual records showed
up in.

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

Maureen Bejar wrote:
> Dear Emilie:
> Do you have any information on where I might find records for Ojo
> de Agua in Jalisco? Catarina would have been born between 1876 and
> 1877. The LDS has Oje de Agua for Chiapas, but nothing for Jalisco.
> I might try the Jalisco civil records for that time though. Any other

> leads would be wonderful. Thanks
>
> Maureen
>

Maureen Bejar wrote:
> Dear Emilie:
> Do you have any information on where I might find records for
Ojo de Agua in Jalisco? Catarina would have been born between 1876 and
1877. The LDS has Oje de Agua for Chiapas, but nothing for Jalisco. I
might try the Jalisco civil records for that time though. Any other
leads would be wonderful. Thanks
>
> Maureen
>

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Nuestros Ranchos] Yaqui Tribe]
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:30:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary Felix
To: Joseph Puentes

Hi Joseph,
there is no way to tell definitively. It is most likely Yaqui would be
similar to the Native Americans of the southwestern
United States. That would be more likely mtdna B and maybe C3 for ydna.
Although anything is possible.
Matches to this area (Sonora) would help in this regard.

Least likely would be mtdna D.

Gary

*/Joseph Puentes /* wrote:

Gary How do I go about explaining this?

joseph

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Yaqui Tribe
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:33:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Maureen Bejar
Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
References: <481420.74952.qm@web55209.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Dear Linda: I have been looking all over for something on a Yakhi tribe, but I think I was given an
incorrect spelling! Your posting with Yaqui maybe the right
spelling. Per my mom-in-law, Catarina Jauregui may have been part Yaqui. Can you give me any
information on this? If I can convince one of the family member to submit to a DNA test, what
haplogroup would show as Yaqui? Thanks for any help.
Maureen

Alicia Carrillo (alliecar@pacbell.net) has sent you a news article.
(Email address has not been verified.)
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Personal message:

This is a very interesting new theory that I had not heard of before.

Alicia

Theory for mass deaths roils Mexico - Yahoo! News

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070107/ap_on_sc/mexico_ancient_plague

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Yahoo! News
http://news.yahoo.com/

Hello Patricia -
I have been to Ayo El Chico also about 4 years ago when my husband and I took my mother there for the first time. In fact she was the first in her family to ever visit Ayo El Chico. We videotaped and photographed the whole event which I would like to turn into a documentary some day. I've been to Ayo El Chico twice. We made fast friends with the notary at the local church called La Nuestra Senora de la Soledad. Every time we have visited we made a donation to the church and brought some nice candys for the notary. They know me pretty well at the church now as I corresponded with a nice notary named Josefina who always did some research for me. On my last trip they allowed me to use my scanner to copy some records. I was very careful handling these very old parish records. You probably know more about the history of Ayo El Chico than I do and would very much like any info. that you might have on this area.

These are the names that I found per my Duenas line:
Found these on Batch No: M604479 Source Call No: 0280789
Jose Casimiro Duenas Christened: Mar 11, 1809, San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mexico
Parents are:
Juan de los Santos Duenas & Maria Antonia Abad de Jesus Damiana Olmos married Feb. 23, 1784 San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mexico
Children of Juan and Maria Antonia are:
Maria Jacinta Duenas born 1816 in La Agua Caliente, Jal. Mex., marries Juan Pablo Navarro on Feb. 19, 1835 in San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Maria Ynes Duenas born 1815 (don't know local yet), marries Mateo Aguilar on Feb. 12, 1840, San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Gregoria Duenas born 1800 (don't know local yet), marries Jose Senon Rodrigues on Feb. 8, 1815, San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Jose Maria Duenas born 1795 (don't know local yet), marries Juana Gertrudis Camargo on April 19, 1815, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Jose Perfecto Duenas (no birth year or local yet), marries Antonia Gutierres on July 26, 1815, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Nasaria Duenas born 1802 (don't know year or local yet), marries Jose Rosalino Camargo on Oct. 30, 1822, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Check out batch M604481 where a line of Duenas can be found in Santa Rita. Perhaps there is a connection?? I didn't search for any offspring yet for any of these Duenas as I am still trying to trace the direct Luna line.
Let me know if I can provide more info.
Yolanda

----- Original Message ----
From: patricia burton
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:22:36 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Casimiro DUENAS

Dear Yolanda--

I just read your information and found it very
exciting. My husband and I returned from almost 3
weeks vacation in Jalisco, Mexico on Thursday. We
spent 2 days in Guadalajara before going out to the
countryside.

Most of my research for my husband who is a GODINEZ
Garcia has been in the ranchos of Atotonilco el Alto,
which is the municipio right next to the Municipio of
Ayotlan. In the past, it was called Ayo el Chico.
The majority of the time we spent renovating the
family home which is located in Santa Rita, Ayotlan,
Jalisco. While at the Guadalajara airport, I bought a
map of Jalisco and to my dismay found it did not show
Santa Rita, a small town of about 5,000 people. It
did show other nearby places and some of those are
even smaller than Santa Rita.

I have one Casimiro DUENAS for whom I am looking. He
is listed as the father of Jose Refugio DUENAS. He
was not married to the mother of Jose Refugio. She
was listed as Rafaela LUQUE. The information on the
parents of this illigitimate child comes from the
marriage record of Jose Refugio DUENAS and his wife,
Bernardina del Refugio CHOLICO. They wed in
Atotonilco el Alto on 26 April 1882. Most of the
time, it seems that she used the name of Refugio
CHOLICO and her birthdate was 20 May 1862 in
Salitrillo, Atotonilco el Alto, Jalisco, Mexico.
Other inportant family names on the tree of Bernardina
del Refugio are SEPULVEDA and MONTANO.

I have been looking for Calixta DUENAS born about 1857
in Valle, , Jalisco for almost 30 years. She was the
daughter of Anastacio DUENAS and Vicenta LOMELIN.
Except for Calixta's marriage to Fermin GUTIERREZ on
10 Feb 1876 in Atotonilco el Alto, Jalisco, I have not
been able to go any further back, only forward.
Apparently she was an orphan and I have not been able
to find birth, marriage, nor death information on her
parents.

If you have any further information on DUENAS lines in
the Ayo el Chico or Atotonilco el Alto areas, I would
like to hear about it.

I work at a Family History Center each week and I will
take your names along for those of the Ayo el Chico
area. I have a number of films on indefinte loan and
some cover the earlier years. I also have the 1930
Census of Ayo el Chico, which is a very good starting
point for researching. I will see if I can add
anything to what you have listed which seems to be
excellent.

I wish you well and hope to hear from you soon.

Patricia Diane Godinez AKA Patricia Burton
San Diego, Ca.

PS The GUTIERREZ names I have researched are from
Nochistlan, Zacatecas.

--- Yolanda Ochoa wrote:

> Hello Joseph,
> Here is my maternal family history per the group's
> request:
> 1)
>
> My grandparents:
> Petra Zuniga Luna:
> B: May 23, 1902, Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico, D:
> Sept. 14, 1991, Los Angeles, California
> Lorenzo Cisneros Gutierrez:
> B: Aug. 10, 1895, Sierra Mojada, Coahuila Mexico, D:
> Sept. 22, 1975
> Marriage date: July 22, 1919, Los Angeles,
> California
> 2) My great grandparents:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Francisco Duenas Luna
>
> B: Oct. 4, 1881 Ayo El Chico, Jalisco, Mexico,
>
> D :Feb. 8, 1958 in Imperial Valley, Calif.
>
>
>
>
> Mercedes Gutierrez Zuniga:
> B: Sept. 24, 1878 in Ayo El Chico, Jalisco,
> Mexico
>
>
> D: May 22,1966, Imperial Valley, Calif.
>
> 3) Both sets of great great grandparents:
>
>
> Felix Alvarez Zuniga
> & Victoria Gonzales Gutierrez
>
>
> Married
> June 2, 1875 in Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Esteban Diosdado Luna & Maria Del Refugio Duenas
>
>
> Married
> Feb. 11, 1863 in Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
>
> 4) Both sets of great great great grandparents:
>
>
> Jose Eligio Luna B: 1809 Agua Caliente, Chihuahua,
> Mexico
>
> Maria Guadalupe De Jesus Diosdado B: 1817 Ayo El
> Chico
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Married June 15, 1836, Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jose Casimiro Duenas B: 1809 Ayo El Chico & Maria
> Gertrudis Rodriguez B:?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Married February 11, 1834, Atotonilco el Alto
> Jalisco,Mexico
>
>
>
>
>
> Francisco
> Bernardo Zuniga & Luisa Sanchez Alvarez
>
>
>
>
> Married Feb. 8, 1834 in Ayo El Chico,
> Jalisco Mexico
>
>
>
>
> Pioquinto Gutierrez & Maria
> Carmen Gonzales
>
>
>
>
> Married Jan. 7, 1844 Ayo El Chico, Jalisco, Mexico
>
>
>
> 5) Great great great great grandparents
>
>
>
>
> Jose Antonio Luna & Josefa
> Navarro
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Marriage date 1818?
> Jose Justo De
> Diosdado & Maria Rosalia de Jesus Camargo Ramires
> Married May 11, 1812, Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
>
>
>
> Jose de los
> Santos Duenas & Maria Antonia Abad de Jesus Damiana
> Olmos
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Married Feb, 13, 1784 Ayo El Chico, Jalisco, Mexico
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jose Anastascio Bernardo Zuniga & Gertrudis Quintero
> Avino
>
>
>
> Married
> June 14, 1802 in Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jose Alvarez
> & Maria Josefa Sanchez
>
>
>
>
>
> Married June 11, 1793, Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Santos Gutierrez
> & Clara Mendes marriage date unknown
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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=== message truncated ===

Yolanda,

How wonderful that you were able to go to Ayo el Chico (Ayotlan?) and actually be allowed to handle original documents, etc. You must possess excellent powers of persuasion.

My husband has some ancestors from Ayo El Chico, circa early 1730s. Their surnames are Villalobos, Morones, and Peres.

We would love to see your film and photos, to see what the place looks like, etc. Maybe you can help me down the road in getting some records.

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---

Joseph,

I think you are about to open a big can of frijoles(beans) with talk of opening it up to other states. Once those beans are out you won't know what to do with them and you will again be muy cansado!!! and none of us want that. What will happen is someone will say, pues mira nomas /look here, if he let Nayarit in maybe he can consider Chihuahua or Guanajuato.
We would all like to expand further but as you said before, there are other groups where we can do that. Ya Basta Jose, no mas estados !!! That's my vote and I'm sticking to my frijoles, or was that guns. Nothing against Nayarit mind you............but we can still include other states in our discussions as they weave in and out of Jal, Aguas and Zac, enough said, Ya callate Alicia antes de que metas la pata en el bote de frijoles.

Adios

----- Original Message ----
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org; Bill Figueroa
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2007 3:20:00 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nayarit: was: Trip to Jalisco, Aguascalientes and Zacatecas

Not boring at all in fact very very interesting. . .I envy the richness
of the details you have in your genealogy. I have dates and not nearly
so far back. thank you for sharing.

talking about Guatemala. . .one of your countrymen, Guillermo Castañeda
Lee did a podcast for the http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com podcast
project. Have a listen: http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/genealogy/other.html

thanks for sharing and who knows but we might need to open the door a
bit wider to include Tepic or would it be all of Nayarit? No my history
is lacking terribly in some areas. maybe we can have you send in more
material that would support the resolution to open the group to consider
Tepic (Nayarit). I've never been opposed to hearing a good argument and
the evidence to support it. Since this message really falls into the
category of research in our area of research I'm moving it over to the
research@nuestrosranchos.org list

Message for Helyn...Anna is aware of your request. We
will respond asap.

Message for Bill Figueroa,
In respond to your request please reference announce
Digest, Vol 7, Issue 13, dated Sat. 26 Aug 2006. Our
adventure begins from Guadalajara, and will follow the
route proposed by Alicia Carrillo in August 2006. I
will gather data, photos, books, hotels rates,
distance, fares-bus and cabs, best routes, etc....
Genealogical references, Municipal records. I will
indeed look into your request.

Jose Munoz

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On Jan 1, 2007, at 6:25 PM, research-
request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:

>
> Tony, what haplogroup are you? My Uncle Louis Gutierrez is
> Haplogroup N and the thinking is that he's Native American since a
> sub-group Haplogroup N3 found in Seville Spain is thought to be
> from Moctezuma's retinue who were there, otherwise Haplogroup N is
> found in Siberia, Finland and Russia today.. I've noticed
> Indeginous males are usually HaplogroupQ or Q1.. and Indeginous
> woman are Haplogroups A, B, C or D.. My mtdna came back Haplogroup
> A. which would be Nahua in Mexico, Lakota, Zuni, Navajo and others
> in the states and Haida in Canada and Eleut in Alaska, first group
> A traceable to Siberia. Have you submitted your results to Gary
> Felix's dna site?
> Linda in Everett
>

My father was born in Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco and is
Haplogroup J2b1b (old J2e2). His father and grandfather were born in
the Guadalajara area. Are there any other members with this
Haplogroup? I'm hoping someone else from this area tests and I can
find some relatives.

Linda Romero

Dear Group--

I have a file in the members genealogy area and this
URL is enclosed:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15338

My husband and I just returned from a trip to the
municipios of Atotonilco el Alto and Ayotlan, Jalisco.
Besides visiting with relatives, mostly on the Garcia
side and asking for their information, we stopped in
at the small town of Margaritas. We wanted to get the
birth and death records of my husband's eldest sister
born in September 1949.

The clerk took the information I had written down,
used her computer to find the exact books, made a copy
of the information from the books, cut the two copies
to be glued onto the official acts, made new copies to
be given to us and charged 45 pesos for each one. The
process was quick and reliable. We wanted to give her
a small monetary gift but she refused. Next time we
will take along something sweet to eat, to express our
thankfulness.

Hope this takes care of my requirement to be a part of
the group before the cutoff date of 31 Jan 2007. I
will be sending in additional information for the
files, as I learn more about the process.

Sincerely,
Patricia Diane Godinez AKA Patricia Burton

A few days before Christmas my aunt (age 80 yrs - but she thinks I don't know how old she is) had a mild stroke. Fortunately the rescue units arrived promptly and she received immediate care. She is currently in a rehabilitation center receiving various therapies. My aunt is the last of her generation - she is my late father's youngest sister. Unlike my father, she did not have a deep interest or curiosity regarding family history, though she has shared some of her memories with me when I have made inquiries - however, I don't always remember to phrase questions "properly", that is, to ilicit an informative response.
Now - it just occured to me that when she dies (which I don't expect to happen soon), I WILL BECOME the family elder, as I am the eldest of the family of my generation - kind of a scary thought.
SO - are any of YOU the FAMILY ELDER? How do you feel about that role? I guess I better get cracking on my research.

Just my 2 centavos.

Natalie

----- Original Message ----
From: jose munoz
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2007 1:43:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] TRIP

Anna and I are going on the Trip within the week.

Our trip will include Tlaltenango. Tepechitlan,
Teolcalteche, Juarez, Rincon de Romos. Jalisco, Los
Altos, Teul, Florencio, Zacatecas, and Aquas
Calientes, and other pueblos.. I plan to follow the
route initially submitted in July or August of last
year.
Jose,

Needles to say I am jealous and at the same time grateful that you are doing this for the Ranchos Group. I still don't know if I will be able to take this trip in summer of 2007 but I appreciate that you are doing the legwork in preparation for those who might wish to take this trip as a group this summer.

Hopefully you can scout the hotels in the different cities and we look forward to any other details and tips you can pick up in anticipation of this summer's tour.

For those who don't know about this trip, we had imagined early in 2006 a Nuestros Ranchos Group dream trip in the summer of 2007 to our target research areas of Mexico and at the time it seemed so far away. Well now it's almost here and things have changed drastically in my life to the point that I don't know if I will be able to take this trip, but Jose Muñoz and his wife Anna have agreed to help with some of the mapping and logistics of this trip and are soon to be on their way to scout the roads, hotels and eateries and anything else they can glean from their road trip. Jose and Anna, have a safe trip and we look forward to hearing from you upon your return.

Good luck and happy tripping,
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif

The last ten days of December were crazy-busy around here - what with trying to get ready for our Christmas celebrations, shopping, going to grandkids programs, baking, shopping, getting ready for houseguests (daughter, SIL, 2 beautiful grand-daughters, ages 3-1/2 and 1-1/2), did I mention shopping... anyway - I wasn't taking time to read the Ranchos messages. So today - I finally took time (about the last 3-1/2 hours) to read all of the messages - what wonderful and inspiring messages. As I read some of the messages pertaining to travel, I was wondering how the plans for the RANCHOS RESEARCH trip were progressing - is that still a go? I know I can't participate this year - too many commitments for 2007 already - but I sure would like to hear about what's in the works.
As for me - I just called the local FHC, and films I ordered in mid-Nov are finally in - so I hope to view them soon. FYI - I have the following films: # 1164728 (Reg. Parroquiales, la Purisima, Valparaiso, Zac., Bautismos, 1870-1876); and #1164741 (same location, Informacion Matrimonial, 1878-1892). It has been quite a while since I have looked at films - and I wonder if you have some tips to share about the BEST way to RECORD INFORMATION from the films, and the BEST way to COMPILE the information. Please share your RESEARCH ideas/methods that work - I am always looking for ways to work smarter (not harder). Y'all take care - may you experience many blessings this year.

Natalie Castro Coleman
Researching: CASTRO, DUENAS, DURAN, GARCIA, LOPEZ, MARTINEZ in El Astillero, San Miguel, and San Mateo (Valparaiso Dist., Zacatecas); and Sain Alto and Sombrerete, Zacatecas

The online source for his genealogy going possibly back 500B.C. is on www.onegreatfamily.com, If you have subscribed for one great family (abt $15 a month) I encourage you to look for Diego. -Daniel A. Mendez del Camino

...Howdy all you LERMA researchers from Zacatecas. I just wanted you to know that I came across an article about a Solomon LERMA, in our archives in Oklahoma City, OK. I thought about all of ya, so I am including the article here. Heck, I wished at this time I could add this fine young man to my ancestors. Hopefully (I know it is a HUGE chance) one of you might have him in your database. BIF...I have added several obits to the rootsweb.com, Jalisco, Aquascalientes & Zacatecas boards. I wasn't for sure whether I should add them here or not. Okay, back to Solomon:

Oklahoma City, OK, newspaper archives dated:
12-23-1923
p.1

Mexican Youth Proves He Could Stand Great Test
Headboard Erected by Col. Sam Robertson Tells
Story of Marvelous Bravery of Fifteen-Year-Old Boy

EDITOR'S NOTE-The following story will interest Oklahoma City
overseas men who knew Colonel Sam Robertson. This little document
is one of these poignant human stories which grip the heart. It is
from The Brownsville, Texas, Herald, and was passed on by
General Roy Hoffman.

In the American National cemetery at Romange, France, lies the
body of Solomon Lerma, a Mexican boy, a native of the state of
Zacatecas, a derelict from the Villista army, which attacked Matamoros,
a hero who risked his life to save that of an American friend, and
who died in February, 1918, in a hospital in France after being
twice wounded and gassed. He was 15 years of age at the time of
his death.
Major M.T. Todd, now medical officer at Fort Brown, was assigned
to receive the bodies of American soldiers as they were being con-
centrated for burial in the American National cemeteries in France.
All marks of identification were brought to him by the details which
were removing the bodies from their temporary burial places on the
battle line, and one day his attention was called to a headboard
which was brought in with the body of a mere boy. The inscription
on the headboard read as follows:

HERE LIES
SOLOMON LERMA
MASCOT E Co. 28th U.S. INF.
15 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME
DEATH ABOUT FEB., 1918. A
NATIVE OF THE STATE OF
ZACATECAS, MEXICO, BUT A
CITIZEN OF SAN BENITO,
TEXAS. HE WAS ADOPTED BY
E CO. 26TH U.S. INF.
AFTER THE FIGHT NEAR
RANCH ANAQUITAS, TEXAS,
SEPT. 1915.
THIS SLAB ERECTED BY HIS
OLD COMPADRE LT. COL. SAM
ROBERTSON, C OF E US ARMY
WHO OWES HIS LIFE TO THIS
BOY. NO GAMER PERSON
EVER LIVED.
ADIOS MUCHACHO MIO.

This inscription was so peculiar that Major Todd took a photograph
of the headboard, and intended when he returned to the United States
to find Colonel Robertson and present the photograph to him. He did
not have the time to do this immediately upon his return, and after
being assigned to Fort Brown learned that Colonel Robertson was
now sheriff of Cameron county.

SOLOMON LERMA, whose headboard was inscribed by Colonel Robertson
while the American troops were engaged in the fiercest fighting of the
world war, was a derelict from the army of General Banco which attacked
Matamoros in 1914. He had accompanied the army from the state of
Zacatecas and while fighting was on near Matamoros, the lad, the less
than 12 years of age, got across the Rio Grande, and finally found
shelter with a Mexican family near Rancho Anaquitas, occupying his time
by herding a flock of goats in the chaparral.
In 1915 Colonel Robertson was building a highway through the
brush from the Browne tract to Buena Vista club house on Laguna Madre,
and he and the boy became fast friends. On September 15, while
Colonel Robertson was driving along the road to the club house
several Mexican bandits opened fire on him, and he was forced to
leave his car and take to the brush. He found a safe haven in a
clump of ebony trees, and opened fire on the bandits, who were eveidently
bent on looting the car. The fight started about 3 o'clock and some
time later the colonel heard someone creeping through the brush and
turned to find Solomon Lerma, who had heard the firing and came to
learn of the cause. The colonel's supply of cartridges was running
low, and Solomon crept to the car, brought back a large supply, and
while the colonel's fire kept the bandits under cover he again went
to the car and brought a canteen of water.
From 3 o'clock until after dark the colonel held the bandits at bay.
Shortly after dark a detachment from E Company, 26th Infantry, which
was then stationed at Harlingen and San Benito, and a number of
cowboys from Buena Vista ranch, accompanied by Deputy United States
Marshal Harold Jefferds, arrived on the scene and the bandits were
driven off.
The members of E Company adopted the Mexican waif on the spot,
taking him to Harlingen, where he remained, a permanent fixture in
the camp, until the 26th, Colonel Bullard's famous regiment, was
ordered to France, shortly after the United States entered the conflict.
No American regiment saw harder fighting than the 26th Infantry.
It was one of the first American organizations to enter the trenches,
and its record is replete with invidual and organized acts of heroism
which have never been equalled. Through all the fighting in which the
regiment engaged, Solomon Lerma took a part which won the respect
and friendship of his older comrades. He was the special protege
of Captain Kilbourn of E Company, who since the war has been promoted
to colonel, and was formerly inspection officer for the Eighth Corps
area with headquarters at San Antonio, but is now stationed at Fort
Benning, Ga.
Twice during the fight in which E Company engaged, Solomon Lerma,
was wounded, and later was badly gassed. After his recovery Captain
Kilbourn, who had also been injured, placed the boy in charge of
the mess sergeant of the company, Joe Hoeflin, now jailor at the
Cameron county jail. The boy never fully recovered from the effects
of the gassing, and contracted pneumonia, dying in a hospital in the
Arrencourt sector. Colonel Robertson was building a railroad in
that sector at the time, and learning of the death of his old
"compadre" prepared the headboard which marked his grave.
"No gamer person ever lived," was the comment of Colonel Robertson.
"Solomon proved that when he crept to my automobile to secure
cartridges when I was holding off the bandits, and he proved it
times without number in France. There was not a member of old
E Company who did not shed a tear when he learned that Solomon Lerma
had 'gone west.' I am certainly glad to learn that the body of
the little Mexican hero has been buried in the American National
cemetery in France, and I doubt if there is one in the cemetery who
was more loyal to the Stars and Stripes, or who was more loyal to
his friends than Solomon Lerma."

As per Bill Figueroa's thought I did a key word search at www.familysearch.org and came up with this list of Padrones for our area of research:

Title search by keyword
padrones Mexico

Informaciones matrimoniales y negocios diversos, 1647-1808 Iglesia Católica. Arquidiócesis de Morelia (México)

Padrones, 1741-1831 Iglesia Católica. Arquidiócesis de Morelia (México)

Padrones, 1639-1875 Iglesia Católica. Diócesis de Guadalajara (México)

Registros parroquiales, 1632-1979 Iglesia Católica. San Diego (Huejuquilla el Alto, Jalisco)

Registros parroquiales, 1660-1960 Iglesia Católica. San Francisco de Asís (Zacoalco de Torres, Jalisco)

Registros parroquiales, 1624-1980 Iglesia Católica. San Gregorio Magno (Mazapil, Zacatecas)

Padrones, 1754-1887 Iglesia Católica (Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas)

Registros parroquiales, 1778-1959 Iglesia Católica. San Miguel (Yahualica, Jalisco)

Padrones, 1754-1866 Iglesia Católica. San Sebastián Mártir (San Sebastián del Oeste, Jalisco)

Padrones, 1841 Iglesia Católica (Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas)

Registros parroquiales, 1726-1979 Iglesia Católica. Nuestra Señora del Rosario (Totatiche, Jalisco)

Registros parroquiales, 1814-1977 Iglesia Católica. Santiago Apóstol (Moyahua, Zacatecas)

Documentos eclesiásticos, 1772-1784 Iglesia Católica. Arzobispado de Guadalajara (México)

Registros parroquiales, 1627-1959 Iglesia Católica (Nochistlán, Zacatecas)

Registros parroquiales, 1705-1948 Iglesia Católica. Nuestra Señora de Belén (Asientos, Aguascalientes)

Registros parroquiales, 1666-1957 Iglesia Católica. San Francisco de Asís (Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco)

Registros parroquiales, 1651-1959 Iglesia Católica. Santuario de Guadalupe (Sayula, Jalisco)

Censo, 1856-1885 Magdalena (Jalisco). Registro Civil

Registros parroquiales, 1859-1969 Iglesia Católica. Santiago (Chimaltitán, Jalisco)

Registros parroquiales, 1739-1978 Iglesia Católica. San José (Bolaños, Jalisco)

Registros parroquiales, 1778-1951 Iglesia Católica. San Miguel (Yahualica, Jalisco)

Padrones, 1764-1798 Iglesia Católica. Nuestra Señora de la Asunción (Jalostotitlán, Jalisco)

Padrones, 1807-1922 Iglesia Católica (Pánuco, Zacatecas)

Documentos eclesiásticos, 1865-1878,1920 Iglesia Católica. San José de Analco (Guadalajara, Jalisco)

Documentos eclesiásticos, 1931 Iglesia Católica. Resurrección (Degollado, Jalisco)

Padrones, 1881 Iglesia Católica. San Miguel (Cocula, Jalisco)

Registros parroquiales, 1814-1955 Iglesia Católica. La Santísima Trinidad (Villa Hidalgo, Jalisco)

Documentos eclesiásticos, 1803 Iglesia Católica. San Sebastián (Techaluta, Jalisco)

Documentos eclesiásticos, 1810,1874 Iglesia Católica. Santa María de los Lagos (Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco)

Padrones, 1836 Iglesia Católica (Talpa de Allende, Jalisco)

Has anyone had a look at this film? I ordered it a couple of years ago and found it confusing. Then again I had just started my research and most things were confusing. If anyone has ordered it and found it of value I would appreciate your comments on this film.

thanks,

joseph

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Title
Indice de padrones de México

Authors
Archivo General de la Nación (Distrito Federal, México) (Added Author)

Notes
Fotocopia del manuscrito en el Archivo General de la Nación de México.
Index for v. 1-108 of the Mexican census records at the Archivo General de la Nación in Mexico.
Indice de los v. 1-108 del Ramo de Padrones en el Archivo General de la Nación en México. El índice de padrones está dividido en distritos. Los distritos que están juntos no siempre se encuentran en el mismo estado. Se listan todos los lugares bajo el distrito. La información lo dirige al volumen y la página en que se encuentra el lugar que usted busca. El índice no indica el año del padrón. El registro de los vols. 1-108 del Ramo de Padrones que cubren los años 1752-1865, están microfilmados y catalogados en un registro separado bajo el título Padrones de México.

Subjects
México - Census - Indexes

Copies
Call Number - Location
972 X22m - FHL INTL Large Q Book - Available

Format
Manuscript (With Film)

Language
Spanish

Publication
[S.l. : s.n.], [197-?]

Physical
119 (i.e. 228) hojas

Subject Class
972 X22

References
(Indexes) Padrones de México

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
También en microfilme: Salt Lake City : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1978. en 1 carrete de microfilme ; 35 mm. - FHL INTL Film [ 1149544 Item 4 ]
Otro microfilme: Salt Lake City : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1990. en 1 carrete de microfilme ; 35 mm. - FHL INTL Film [ 1224506 Item 1 ]

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.

NOTAS SUELTAS DE LA CRONOLOGÍA FAMILIAR DE LOS
ROMO DE VIVAR-RANGEL EN LA NUEVA ESPAÑA

Felipe Reyes Romo

1583 / Se otorga en la Cd. De México un poder de Juan Rangel a Marcos de
Biesma.

1584 / Merced de la Real Audiencia, año de 1584, a Juan Rangel Peguero de
un sitio de estancia para ganado menor en términos de Pachuca, cerca de los
de Tilquautla, con la posesión que tomó, y la información que dio doña
Francisca Velázquez de Salazar de como le pertenecía a ella y a sus hijos.

1584 / Merced de tierras en favor de Juan Rangel Pegueros compartiendo la
con Rodrigo Yáñez

1589 / Diego Romo de Vivar nace el 12 de marzo en Rielves Toledo, España.
Muere en Santa Maria del Río Florido, Chihuahua, México. Fue bautizado en la
parroquia de Rielves, España el 12 de marzo
1589; sus padres fueron Diego Romo y Catalina Pérez. Su esposa fue María
Rangel Peguero. Nota de Connie Domíngez “1608 / I've never seen an exact DOB
on Diego Romo de Vivar. All I've seen is a birth year, 1608. But your date
is probably more accurate. Maybe him, or his father”.

1601 / En 1601 don Pedro Matheos de Ortega recibió algunas mercedes por las
haciendas de Las Chinampas, Las Peñuelas y Villa de San Felipe, Las
Peñuelas y El Pabellón. La otra, la de los Rincón procedentes de la capital
del reino, aparece cuando don Francisco Rincón se casó con doña María de
Ortega, hija de don Pedro Matheos. De esta unión nacieron dos varones: Pedro
y Agustín. Uno se consagró a la Iglesia: entró en 1620 al convento de los
mercedarios como novicio, aunque después abandonó el claustro y entró al
clero secular. El otro, Agustín, se consagró al gobierno: fue alcalde mayor
de Aguascalientes y después corregidor de Zacatecas, y aunque se casó con
doña Leonor Caballero, no dejó descendencia. Aquí se habría acabado la
familia Rincón de Ortega, si no hubiera sido porque tenían un medio hermano
de padre, don Juan Rincón de Vivar, a quien tocó la herencia de sus dos
medios hermanos. El abuelo don Pedro Matheos de Ortega empezó a acumular
mercedes de tierras: el 20 de febrero de 1601 recibió una merced en las
Peñuelas, tres días después recibió otra en la Cañada de las Chinampas .
Pasados cuatro años obtuvo permiso de regar sus labores de trigo, construir
un molino de pan y fabricar un ingenio de beneficio de sacar plata en el
puesto de Chinampas.

1612 / Nace en España Maria Rangel esposa de Diego Romo de Vivar.

1624? / Matrimonio de los Romo-Rangel y migración a la Nueva España al menos
por tres razones: i) el paso del Mayorazgo de los Rincón Gallardo a manos
de Juan Rincón de Vivar “primo de Diego Romo de Vivar”; ii) las mercedes de
tierras concedidas en la Nueva España a Juan Rangel Peguero y: iii) la
importancia de los descubrimientos mineros en San José del Parral así como
el nombramiento de Alferez Real concedido a Juan Rangel de Viezma (¿tío o
padre de los Rangel-Peguero?)en la Nueva Vizcaya.

1625/ Nace Joseph Romo de Vivar Rangel en la villa de San Felipe. Batch
No.: J608891, Source call , 0644362. Se trata del fundador de Alamos,
Sonora y las ramas familiares de los Romo de Vivar en el Occidente de
México. De acuerdo con este dato son nueve, y no ocho, los hijos de la
familia seminal de los Romo de Vivar- Rangel.

1626 / 13 March 1626. Beatriz - hija de Juan Cipatl (chiputu?, cipata?) y
de Francisca. Mexicanos criados de Diego Romo de Vivar en la Hacienda de
las Chinampas), fueron padrinos Diego Romo y Ma. Rangel su mujer.

1626- 1656 / Diego Romo de Vivar y María Rangel se trasladan al Real de San
José del Parral. Mariano Gonzalez Leal dice que Diego Romo de Vivar obtuvo
el grado de Capitán y que vivió en el Norte de México y fue en su momento
"Teniente de Gobernador de San José de Parral". Después se desplazó hacia
la parte central de México para ser "administrador de haciendas del Ovejas
en el Bajío", según el Estudio Historico-Genealógico sobre la Familia
Guerra, (Guanajuato: n.p., 1982), p. 121-122. Por estos años casi no hay
actividad de esta familia en Aguascalientes. Sin embargo, parece que Maria
Rangel alternó sus estancias entre la Villa de Aguascalientes y Parral
criando su familia. De hecho, de acuerdo con información de Connie
Domínguez, “la mayoría de sus hijos (Maria, Diego, Juan, Isabel, Antonia,
Pedro, Geronimo y Francisco) se casaron fuera de Aguascalientes, pero luego
regresaron con sus familias. Los únicos matrimonios que se registran son
los dobles casamientos tanto de Juan como de Pedro in 1658, y el de
Francisco en 1668”.

1629 / Como consecuencia de la bonanza resultante del descubrimiento de las
minas de San José del Parral, se incrementó la presencia de españoles, Se
dice que el primero en hacer la minería fue Juan Rangel de Biesma, quien
encontró plata en el cerro de la prieta: se afirma que nació en la ciudad
llamada Parral, en España por lo cual él, en honor a su padre, le dio el
mismo nombre que su ciudad natal.

1629 / Diego Romo de Vivar se convierte en minero, soldado y explorados en
la región de Parral. Soldado por que obtuvo el grado de capitán y
Gobernador del real, ya que se requería una contención permanente de las
tribus apaches, comanches, tarahumaras, tobosos, pimas, guarojíos,
tepehuanes, pimas, ópatas, conchos, julimes, tapacolmes, tubaris, guazaparis
y chínipas. Los más belicosos fueron los tobosos, apaches, comanches y
tarahumaras, quienes se opusieron a la ocupación de sus territorios por
parte de los colonizadores españoles. Con el hallazgo de minas en San José
del Parral, en 1629, la población se convirtió en la más importante del
norte de la Nueva Vizcaya. En sus orígenes la provincia de la Nueva Vizcaya
tuvo como su capital a la Villa de Guadiana,

1631 / El Real de Minas de San José del Parral, actual Hidalgo del Parral,
Chihuahua, fue fundado oficialmente en julio de 1631 por el alférez real
Juan Rangel de Biesma,

1631/ Diego Romo de Vivar y los Rangel Peguero y Rangel de Biesma aparecen
como mineros en la lista de pobladores de Parral que se encuentra consignado
en un documento del Archivo General de Indias de Sevilla (en la sección
Patronato Real). Se puede encontrar también en la obra titulada: El nuevo
descubrimiento de San José del Parral (México, UNAM, Instituto de
Investigaciones Históricas, 1988, p. 299-233),

1633 / En el antiguo pueblo de Chora (después denominado “Rincón de
Romos”), se habita con una agrupación indígena compuesta por chichimecas,
cuachichiles y yaquis provenientes del norte

1634 / Nace (en ¿Parral?) José Pedro Romo de Vivar Rangel

1639 / La Real Audiencia de Guadalajara autorizó la creación de una villa, a
la que durante mucho tiempo se le conoció por el nombre de Chora.

1639/ Las crónicas regionales dicen que “En 1639, es habitada la Hacienda
llamada Rincón de Ortega, denominación dada por su propietario el Cura Pedro
Rincón de Ortega.

1640 / El rey de España, Felipe IV, otorgó al Real de minas de San José del
Parral, el título de “Capital del Mundo de la Plata”.

1642/ El gobernador de nueva Vizcaya, don Luis de Valdéz, funda la
alhóndiga de San Joseph del Parral, como centro de acopio de alimentos y
armas.

1647/ Uno de los primeros descubrimientos de sal al norte de Chuihuahua,
hoy “Villa Ahumada”, data de 1647, cuando se realizó la denuncia de las
“Salinas de la Unión”, por Diego Romo de Vivar que incursionaba como
explorador. Dos años después las poseyó Lorenzo Moreno, quien les llamó
Salinas de Santa Cruz de Mayo y, posteriormente, las explotó Francisco
Correa de Aguilar.

1648 / Nace (¿en Parral?) Jerónimo Romo de Vivar

1649/ Diego Guajardo Fajardo, fijó su residencia en esta misma población y
construyó la Casona Real del Gobierno provincial en 1649, convirtiendo de
hecho a San José del Parral, en la capital del Reino de la Nueva Vizcaya por
más de noventa años.

1650/ Las crónicas de colonización del Occidente de México afirman que el
primer Europeo que apareció en lo que hoy son las poblaciones de Álamos y
Nogales, Sonora, fue Joseph Romo de Vivar

1652 / El cura Rincón de Ortega, al morir su hermano Agustín, tomó para sí
toda la responsabilidad. Pidió prestado para continuar la construcción de un
convento franciscano en la Villa de Aguascalientes y separó parte de sus
bienes para la obra . Para 1652 sus propiedades deben de haber sido ya
considerables, porque en este año don Pedro fue cura beneficiado de
Aguascalientes, desde 1650 hasta su muerte. Agustín se comprometió a pagar
800 pesos por año, del diezmo de sus haciendas.

1655 / Comienzan a regresar de Norte algunos de los Romo de Vivar- Rangel,
al parecer sin fortuna. Pedro ostenta el título de Capitán.

1655 / Se casa Diego Romo de Vivar Rangel con María Luisa de los Reyes

1656/ Reaparece la familia Romo de Vivar completa en Aguascalientes,
Diego y Maria bautizan a su nieto Nicolás, hijo de Diego Romo de Vivar y
Luisa de los Ángeles de los Reyes

1658/ El 26 de marzo, don Juan Rincón de Vivar vende fiado a “los hermanos
Juan y Pedro, Romo de Vivar, el Rincón “ o “Villa de Chora” que formaban
parte del mayorazgo de su propiedad, en 3000 pesos a censo. De acuerdo al
testamento otorgado por Pedro Romo de Vivar Rangel, el 13 de Febrero de
1692, fueron ellos y no su padre, como lo afirman las crónicas locales,
quienes adquirieron en sociedad las tres caballerías de tierra de lo que
antiguamente fue “Chora”

1658 / Se casa Juan Romo de Vivar Rangel con María de Tiscareño, en las
Villa de Aguascalientes

1658/ Se casa Juan Romo de Vivar Rangel con María de Garibay, en las Villa
de Aguascalientes

1658 / Se casa José Pedro Romo de Vivar Rangel con Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza ,
en las Villa de Aguascalientes

1660 / La Real Audiencia de la Nueva Galicia convoca a los pobladores del
territorio a defender las costas del Nayarit “en contra de los ataques de
los piratas”. Diego Romo de Vivar participa con gente, caballos y armas.

1659 / Muere Maria Rangel Pegueros el 9 de Junio. Se sepulta en
Aguascalientes

1662 / Se casa Jerónimo Romo de Vivar Rangel con Margarita Tiscareño, en
las Villa de Aguascalientes

1666 / don Pedro Rincón de Ortega fallece el 10 de enero en su hacienda de
"Las Peñuelas". A la muerte de don Pedro, se hizo cargo de los bienes su
hermano, el Capitán don Juan Rincón de Vivar, quien en su matrimonio con
doña Catarina Pérez de Aguirre, tuvieron por hija única a doña, a quien
correspondería la fabulosa herencia de su tío.

1670 / Es nombrado Alcalde Mayor de la Jurisdicción de Aguascalientes Don
Juan Romo de Vivar

1680 / El primer criador de ganados en el Rancho de Santa Cruz Valley, se
estableció en 1680, por iniciativa de José Romo de Vivar, cerca de San
Lázaro en lo que ahora es el estado mexicano de Sonora

1680-90 José Romo de Vivar fue también ganadero y minero en el sur de las
montañas Huachuca en el Occidente de la Nueva España y podría ser el primer
español en realizar esta actividad en lo que hoy es Arizona.

1691 / Diego Romo de Vivar (Pérez o Rangel¿)muere el 19 de Diciembre

1691 / Muere Juan Romo de Vivar Rangel (1642)

1692/ Muere Isabel Romo de Vivar Rangel (1638)

1693 / Se emite el “Informe sobre Sonora.” Febrero 6 de 1693: Joseph Romo
de Vivar, Pedro García de Almazán, Pedro de Peralta y Francisco Mendoza..

Notas complementarias:

La lista de pobladores de Parral en 1633. Se encuentra en un documento del
Archivo General de Indias de Sevilla, en la sección Patronato Real, fue
publicada por Guillermo Porras Muñoz en: El nuevo descubrimiento de San José
del Parral (México, UNAM, Instituto de Investigaciones Históricas, 1988, p.
299-233):

Peter Gerhard described early Aguascalientes history in "The North Frontier of New Spain." On Oct. 22, 1575, La Villa de Aguascalientes was created by decree and affiliated with nearby Santa Maria de los Lagos (now Lagos de Moreno). The first notice of a parish at Asunción was circa 1605, but chaplains served various presidios before that. Bernal Sánchez spoke of a priest at the Villa in 1601, but as we all know, the marriages and baptisms we now have access to only begin in 1616.

It is believed that the Chichimecs at contact numbered about 8,500 (this would have been Guachichiles, Zacatecas and probably some Caxcanes). Gerhard writes that "the period 1561-1589 was one of retrenchment when some haciendas were abandoned." Aguascalientes was founded in 1575 but was reduced to only two vecinos and 16 soldados in 1582-1585. After that, the war subsided and hostilities withdrew north, with the last Indian attack taking place in 1593.

Gerhard notes that "Peace brought a tide of Spanish settlers beginning in the 1590s, mostly cattlemen and farmers, together with Indian (mainly Náhuatl-speaking) and Negro retainers." The Villa became "inhabited by powerful hacendados who monopolized land and water."

Gaspar de la Fuente claims that in 1610, he found 24 or 25 Spanish vecinos, about 50 families of mestizos, over 100 mulatos, 20 Negro slaves and only 10 Indians in La Villa. He explained that "most of these people worked on neighboring haciendas."

Gerhard writes, "By 1681 various haciendas [of Aguascalientes] had chapels and resident clergy." The 1760 Parish census showed 640 Indians and 5,386 non-Indian families for a total of 20,411 "personas de comunión y confesión" - not including Ciénega de Mata. Including infants this may have represented 34,000 persons.

The 1770 census gave a total of 28,074.

The 1790 census gives: 25,715 people, made up of:

1. 10,004 Spaniards
2. 8,617 Indians
3. 3,357 Mulattoes
4. 3,737 Others

Source: Peter Gerhard, "The North Frontier of New Spain" (Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press).

John Schmal

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Los expedientes de la Familia Luevano (Luebana)

In the Village of Aguascalientes on the 12th of January 1777, having proceeded with the marriage banns as mandated by the Holy Council of Trent, in the Parish Church, on three holy days, in solemn mass, I read the banns on the 22nd, 25th, and 26th of December of the preceding year, and having found no impediments to marriage resulting, I, Father José Joachim Medina, with license from Father Antonio Flores...I married... Alejo de Luebana, Spanish, originally from and a resident of this jurisdiction in the Rancho Grande, legitimate son of José Luebana and Tomasa Carrion (both deceased),
with María de Jesus Gil, Spanish, originally from Jalostotitlan, and for a short time, a resident of this jurisdiction in the Hacienda de Juan del Mesquital, legitimate daughter of Francisco Gil and Petra Cassilas...

In the Village of Aguascalientes, on the 9th of the month of September in 1812, having proceeded with the marriage preparations, as is right, and having read the marriage banns as required by the Holy Council of Trent in the Parish Church on three Holy days in solemn Mass, on the 23rd, 24th, and 28th of the past month of August, and having found no impediments to marriage resulting, I, Father Juan Muños, with license from Father José Francisco... married Estanislao Luebana, Spanish (espl), originally from and a resident of Benadero, legitimate son of Alejo Luevana and Jesus Gil (deceased)... with María Salome Gomes, Spanish, originally from and a resident of this jurisdiction in Cienega de Cardona, legitimate daughter of Cipriano Gomes and María Manuela Macias....

In the Parish Church of the Congregation of Trinity, on the 10th day of the month of March of the year 1816, I, the proper priest of this place, Father José Bernardino de Palos, baptized solemnly and poured Holy Oil and Sacred Chrism on a little Spanish boy, born two days earlier at Cienega de Cardona, whom I gave the name José Pavlo, legitimate son of Estanislao Luevano and of Salome Gomes. Paternal grandparents: Alejo Luevano and María de Jesus Gil. Maternal grandparents: Cipriano Gomes and Manuela Masias....

In this Parish church of Pasa de Sotos on May 3, 1844, I, Father Antonio Cabral, priest, married and blessed within the church Pablo Luebana, celibate, 24 years of age, originally from and a resident of... and legitimate son of Estanislao Luebano and Salome Gomes with Manuela Serna, celibate, 18 years of age, originally from and a resident of the same Rancho, legitimate daughter of Leocadia Serna and Ramona Diaz (deceased)...

In the Parish of La Santísima Trinidad de Sotos, on the 27th of May of 1874, I, Father Pablo Marin, proper priest of this place, married and blessed in the face of the church Tiburcio Luevana, single, 25 years of age, originally from and a resident of this place, legitimate son of Pablo Luevano, deceased, and of Manuela Serna, who is living....
with Manuela Martinez, celibate, 16 years of age, originally from and a resident of this place, legitimate daughter of Timoteo Martinez, who is living, and of Fermina Rubalcaba, deceased, and having read the marriage banns on three holy days in solemn Mass on the 19th, 26th of April and the 3rd of May after which no impediments to marriage resulted and instruction in Christian doctrine was received...

In the Parish of Paso de Sotos on the 29th of September of 1885, I, Father Estevan Agredano... baptized solemnly and poured Holy Oil and Sacred Chrism on Juana, who was born on the 27th day at seven in the morning in this place, legitimate daughter of Tiburcio Luevano and Manuela Martinez. Paternal grandparents: Pablo Luevano and Manuela Serna. Maternal grandparents: Timoteo Martinez and Fermina Rubalcaba. Godparents: Paulin Diaz and Epifania Aguallo, whom I advised of their spiritual and parental obligation. In witness thereof, I signed it.

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