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Hello everyone , sorry i haven't been on here much anymore. We lost my grandmother to cancer In October and had lots of things going on and didnt do too much genealogical work. Anyhow, I finally downloaded a family tree program and put in 1129 relatives BUT, I've wanted to make it public for all my relatives to see. This particular website wants to charge me money to publish the tree?? Anyone want to recommend anywhere I can publish a family tree for free or even somewhere I can make a family site? Thank you very much, Lorenzo Carrillo.

While catching up with older postings I came across Christopher's query about the above names, which are all in my line. Here's two more children to add to the family of Francisco Xavier CALVILLO and Maria Micaela MASIAS:

1. Joseph Raphael CALBILLO, c. 1761, wife Maria Josepha MERCADO Gamboa.
She might also be VASQUES del MERCADO?

Child: Jose Miguel CALVILLO, bap 11 May 1803 [name taken from old notes, I'm unable to relocate image #, but entry was from Ags Ags Sag. Film is very out of order.]

2. Maria Gertrudis CALBILLO Masias, born c. 1755, spouse Juan VASQUES-MERCADO Lopes-De Nava, aka Juan MERCADO, born c. 1748

Children:
Maria Victoriana Dolores MERCADO (spouse Joseph Lucas RUIZ ESPARZA)
Maria Gabriela MERCADO ( Joseph Vicente RANGEL)
Joseph Manuel Asencio VASQUES-MERCADO Calvillo (Ma. Dorotea CASTAÑEDA)
Maria Josepha MERCADO (bap 8 Feb 1787; Mex CCrec Ags Ags Sag Bau 1785-1788, Image 163)

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An interesting fact about Juan Nepomuceno VASQUES-MERCADO Lopes-De Nava: When he and Ma. Gertrudis CALBILLO were married 15 Feb 1770 (Mex CCRec Ags Ags Sag Mat 1765-1767, Image 99), she was 15, he was 22, and he was already twice a widower.

His first wife, Maria Buenaventura RODRIGUES Contreras, and Juan were married 27 Apr 1767 (Mex CCRec Ags Ags Sag Mat 1765-1767, Image 99).

About three months after her death, Juan married his second wife, Maria Fabiana ESPARZA Alonso, while she was on her deathbed, 8 Apr 1769; she died two days after their marriage. (Mex CCRec Ags Ags Sag Mat 1767-1771, Image 96). About 8 months later he married Ma. Gertrudis CALBILLO.

If anyone learns more about Francisco Xavier CALBILLO I hope they pass it along to our group. I wonder if he might be part of the difficult and elusive MARTINES-CALBILLO family?

Hope someone finds this additional information useful.

Gloria Delgado

Are you stuck? Are you wondering where to start? Well one good place would be to ask your questions on the research@nuestrosranchos.org list. We might not be able to help but we'll try.

If you are just starting out in genealogy then you need to familiarize yourself with your local Family History Center. Your local FHC is part of the LDS church and is an absolute goldmine of information for Mexican Genealogy and other locations around the world. Go to www.familysearch.org to find your closest location with the best hours to fit your schedule: go to the site and click on "Library" and "Family History Centers" to find your location. Give them a call and pay them a visit. Ask questions about how the center works.

If you know your specific location then go to the familysearch.org site and do a "place search." go to the site and click on "Library" and then on "Family History LIbrary Catalog" and then click on "Place Search" [Note if your location doesn't come up in the results maybe it was too small to support a church in earlier times. In cases like that then go to one of the online maps - Expedia.com is one I use - and see if you can find your location. Then slowly start entering in the towns closest to your location in the "Place Search." Keep doing that until you find a location that gives you some results from the "Place Search."

Once you've found a location you should see something like this:

Place
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete

Topics
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete - Census
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete - Church records
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete - Civil registration

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.

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then you would click on the live links for each to familarize yourself with which films are available.

Under "Church records" you'll see something like this with the film numbers you can then order from your local family history center [note: you can only view the films at the FHC as they cannot be removed from the building]:

Topic
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete - Church records

Titles
Registros parroquiales, 1678-1940 / Iglesia Católica. San Juan Bautista (Sombrerete, Zacatecas)

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.

and if you click on this you'll see the following [note: to see it like this you'll need to click on "See Film Notes" at the top. If you see a film that might be when your relatives lived in that area then that would be the one you would order at the Family History Center:

Title
Registros parroquiales, 1678-1940

Authors
Iglesia Católica. San Juan Bautista (Sombrerete, Zacatecas) (Main Author)

Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo parroquial.
Muchos de los registros incluyen índice.
Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriages, marriage petitions, deaths, and other church records from Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Mexico.
Many of the registers include an index.

Subjects
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Spanish

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1966, 1994

Physical
42 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.

Linda,

How does one get in touch with Susana Leniski for information on Miguel
Caldera and Maria Cid? Also, do you know what books Phillip
Wayne Powell has published Miguel Caldera besides The Taming of
America's First Frontier (1548-1597).

I have an ancestress by the name of Maria-Anacleta "Cleta" Caldera from
Tepetongo, Zacatecas.

I have not been able to find information about her parents or where
they came from to San Jose de Arroyo Seco de Abajo in Tepetongo.

Elvira

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Hi everybody,

I have fond out that Juan de Araisa y Medina wrote a will before he died in 1665 in Aguascalientes. Any idea as to how to find it?

Here is the image of the death record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-145636-74?cc=1410092…

Thanks!

Hola a todos:

Acabo de averiguar que Juan de Araisa y Media dejó testamento antes de morir en 1665 en Aguascalientes. Su hijo Hernando de Araisa fue uno de sus albaceas. Alguien sabe si hay forma de encontrar el testamento?

Aqui está la imágen de su defunción:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-145636-74?cc=1410092…

Muchas gracias!

Sergio

Researching Diaz De Leon family of Zacatecas (Tlaltenango,Jerez) for my wife,
Maria Hildelissa Olga Diaz De Leon de Wiser of Palo Alto, Ca. Specifically,
Ysidro Diaz De Leon and wife Apolonia Casas of Tlaltenango. Have some
descendents!
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15141

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I have two dates of birth 1) 1486 and the other 1525? It may possibly be a father and son situation. I have accessed Google, Red de Antepasados, GeneaNet, etc. and have not found any info on them. Would someone let me know if they have anything on them---I would appreciate it. Thank you.

Ann Marie

Buenas Noches:

Primero que nada les agradezco que me hayan permitido pertenecer a este interesante grupo de investigación genealogía de las áreas mas bonitas de nuestro país. Dice mi padre;
      "Zacatécas es la capital de México y la marcha de Zacatécas es el Himno Nacional" 

En fin, mi área de investigación son los apellidos Urzúa,López, Díaz y Martínez, en los pueblos y ranchos de Ciénega de Mata, Jalisco, Ojuelos,Jalisco, Pinos Zacatecas, La Estrella, Pinos Zacatecas, El Puesto, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, Las Papas de Arriba, Jalisco, San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Zacatecas.  

En este momento me encuentro trabajando en lineas anteriores a 1860 padres de Vidal Urzúa cuyo ultimo registro es el casamiento de su Hijo Jesús Urzúa de la Cruz con Petra López Ranguel el Ojuelos, Jalisco  14 de noviembre de 1883.

Agradeceré mucho su consejo...

Estoy a sus ordenes.

Hola Armando and Members ,Back in the 15 of march ,2012 I was inquiring about Jose Munoz de Nava married to Micaela Gomez de Mendoza. I don't remember if I answered you about Jose Munoz de Nava being the son of Francisco Munoz de Nava and Leonor Ramirez de Hermosillo. I found a dispensa film# 168374 -year 1743-1754 page # 88 for Antonio Munoz (son of Jose Munoz de Nava and Micaela Gomez de Mendoza) and Paula Gertrudis Garcia de Hermosillo. Its states that Leonor Ramirez de Hermosillo gave birth/procreated Joseph Munoz de Nava. So far this is the only proof I found.
Ronnie

Finally i found my grandfathers great grandparents, but like i said i am quite stuck here.So Sebastian Munoz Parents are Cipriano Munoz & Maria Munoz and i can no longer go further than that.What was is stopping me on going further is a marriage doc of a Cipriano Munoz and a Maria Asencion Munoz, it mentions that they are from el monte de los duranes but i thought they were from la jabonera?And is that Cipriano Munoz and that Maria Asencionn Munoz the same parents of my Sebastian Munoz.Can anyone give me some tips on what I can do please.How can i prove that my Cipriano Munoz and Maria Munoz the same ones on that marriage doc?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15697-50488-54?cc=1410092&wc…

Hi everyone i was wondering if someone can tell me what the word after hijo lexitimo means it's starts with a (C)

Jose Maria Jauergui 17 Agosto

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15089-4661-12?cc=1410092&wc=…

Abram

Hi everyone,

I was wondering whether anyone could help me in locating information on Juan de Medina and Maria Gaitan from Teocaltiche around 1675. I found a baptism record for a child of theirs in 1678 and 1691, both in Teocaltiche, but, I can't seem to find any marriage info or any other information on them. Any information that anyone might have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much everyone.

Sincerely,
Christopher de Cuellar

Can someone please help me translate this document in enlgish?And i'm also having a hard time reading it.Really appreciate it if someone can help me:)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15187-52931-35?cc=1410092&wc…

Geronimo Ruiz De Salazar Y Gertudis Enriqeuz

Francisco De Pedroza married Juana De La Serda on 1745 in Teocaltiche, jalisco. His father's name is listed as Santiago De Pedroza but mother's name not listed, does anyone have Santigo on on their family tree?
Esteban Pedroza

Hello,

My name is Jesús Pedroza, and I am working on my maternal side of our family tree.

My Grandparents were Jesús María Padilla born in San Juan de los Lagos on September 12, 1913 and Josefina Campos born in Miami, Arizona on March 26, 1917.

My grandfather's parents were Eleuterio Padilla and Jovita Padilla

My grandmother's parents were Miguel Campos and Antonia Campos

And they were all born in or around San Juan de los Lagos. That is all I know.

I hope someone can help me. I'd greatly appreciate it!

Hola,

Mi nombre es Jesús Pedroza, y estoy trabajando en mi lado materno de nuestro árbol genealógico.

Mis abuelos eran María Jesús Padilla nació en San Juan de los Lagos el 12 de septiembre 1913 y Josefina Campos nació en Miami, Arizona el 26 de marzo 1917.

Los padres de mi abuelo eran Eleuterio Padilla y Jovita Padilla

Los padres de mi abuela eran Miguel Campos y Antonia Campos
Y todos ellos nacieron en o cerca de San Juan de los Lagos. Eso es todo lo que sé.

Espero que alguien me puede ayudar. Yo te lo agradecería mucho!

Hello,

My name is Jesús Pedroza, with assistance of a genealogist we have been unable to find our further ancestors past Santiago de Pedroza who died before July 1656, married to Juana Bautista de Alva and were the parents of Marcos de Pedroza, Nicolás de Pedroza, Juan de Pedroza and Leonor de Pedroza.

If anyone has any information or can direct me to any important information, I would greatly appreciate it! Thank you!

Hola,

Mi nombre es Jesús Pedroza, con la asistencia de un genealogista no hemos sido capaces de encontrar a nuestros antepasados ​​más pasados ​​de Santiago de Pedroza que murió antes de julio de 1656, casado con Juana Bautista de Alva y fueron los padres de Marcos de Pedroza, Nicolás de Pedroza, Juan Pedroza y de Leonor de Pedroza.

Si alguien tiene alguna información o me puede dirigir a cualquier información importante, se lo agradeceria mucho! ¡Gracias!

Hello

This source for reading the abbreviations in Spanish Colonial documents was mentioned earlier, but the person who wrote about did not have the link to it. Here it is:

http://www.nuestragenealogia.es/NGEN-Archivos/Documentos/01%20-%20Docum…

So if you are like me, new to this research area, and struggling to make sense of the old texts, this document might be of some help.

Regards
Denise

Joseph,

Raul Longoria's website really is a great genealogy site. I have one line
of de la Garza's that I had traced to the early 1700's in San Luis Potosi,
and fortunately for me, it tied to one of Raul Longoria's de la Garza's
lines. I e-mailed Raul and he was able to point me to the documents I
needed to expand my tree by 5-7 generations. This line connects back to the
early Spanish families of Nuevo Leon.

Maria Cortez

Found this bit of info on one of the older Somos Primos issues:
>
>
>
> Longoria Family in Nueva Espana
> http://www.raullongoria.net/newspain.htm
> The webmaster is Raul Longoria raullongoria@yahoo.com
> Sent by John Inclan
>
> This is an amazing website. There is so much information. It gives the
> overall history and family connections for the first four generation of
> Longoria into Nueva Espana in 1603. The family settled in northern Mexico,
> Zacatecas, Monterrey, Saltillo. If you lines in Northern Mexico, don't miss
> searching on this site. Historical information goes back to the 900s.
>
>
>
> Joseph
>
>

Hi, I am Christie. I have been doing my family genealogy for the last several years. I majority of my family roots are out of Nuevo Leon (Trevino, de la Garza, Montemayor, etc..) if anyone is needing any direction in that area, please feel free to contact me.

My Current project is for an Uncle. His parents never spoke of their families that they had left in Mexico when they came to the states. I had very little to work with. Fortunately, I have found quite a bit on his paternal line thus far.

I am however 'stalled" on JOSE AGUILERA who married ANNA MARIA DE CHAVEZ. I have found 4 records containg their names:

1. Juana Maria Aguilera (baptized 4/22/1738 Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco; died UNKNOWN)

2. Ygnacia Gertrudis Rosalia Aguilera (baptized 2/3/1743 Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco; died UNKNOWN)

3. (Marriage Record) Manuela Aguilera (baptized UNKNOWN; died UNKNOWN) She married Domingo Queseda (born UNKNOWN; died UNKNOWN) on 4/12/1758 Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco; son of Joseph Queseda & Antonia Gutierrez

4. **Juan Joseph Aguilera (baptized UNKNOWN; died UNKNOWN) He married Maria Antonia Esqueda (baptized 7/29/1738 Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco; died 11/29/1769 Teocaltiche, Jalisco) on 9/27/1758 Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco; daughter of Xavier Esqueda & Anna Maria de Carvajal

I have gone thru the Teocaltiche & Aguascalientes Church records. These records are all that I have found (am I over looking??) Is there maybe another Parish I should search in that might contain more records? According to the they were residents of San Marcos.

ANY help will be appreciated!!

Thank You!!

Hello all--

I don't chime in here often with postings, as I am dedicating most of my genealogy time to researching, editing and managing the GuadalajaraDispensas.com blog as I grow my family tree, but I find it much beyond my control not to respond to the recent postings implying piracy of genealogical data (again).

As some of you have experienced--the index project at GuadalajaraDispensas.com is an invaluable tool for anyone conducting family history in many areas of Mexico--useful to the novice and advanced alike.

I started the above-mentioned indexing as a 'personal research project,' and I kept copious notes on my laptop as I viewed hundreds of images at Familysearch.org. Then, an awful thing happened--I lost ALL OF MY NOTES...dozens of hours of work...lost to a computer failure. Yes, my 'personal and private' work was lost forever and I would have to work harder and longer now for the same list of names that I had already compiled.

That experience prompted me to keep my notes 'on the cloud,' so to speak, and so an idea was born. Why not publish my findings on the Internet so I will never lose them again? And a RADICAL THOUGHT entered my mind: Why not share my indices so that others can find their ancestors. My logic was not motivated by altruism, but by a genuine desire to collaborate.

I predicted that if someone else advanced THEIR tree...when they did, they would post their findings at nuestrosranchos.org and share their info...and THAT NEW INFO shared would complete another puzzle for me, or for someone else who would then also collaborate, and thus I would have new info to advance MY TREE. I envisioned a Win-Win-Win scenario all-around. And it has been just so.

Although not a perfectly polished site--the GuadalajaraDispensas.com would have a permanent home online, available to be viewed by ANYONE AND EVERYONE who had Internet access. FOR FREE.

I worked on this project for months--alone. Then, one day, a member of Nuestros Ranchos offered to assist in the indexing work. I never requested volunteers. I never asked anyone to do any indexing on my behalf. Then, a second person came forward...then a third...and then a fourth.

To date, we have had a total of TEN (10) volunteers doing indexing of Dispensa documents for everyone's consumption. How many of your brick walls would still be up if it were not for the generosity of these volunteers?

As some of you may relate, there is a frustration that builds after knowing that so many others before us have already searched through these SAME thousands of documents and have the capacity to share their knowledge--but either don't share, or have published obscure works that nobody has access to due to limited publication. This idea compelled me to compare the differences between the modern researcher versus a researcher twenty or thirty years ago.

Yes, in Mexico twenty or thirty years ago, only some very few people had access to the records most of the World population of Mexican descent now can view easily online. Twenty or thirty years ago, it cost a researcher in Mexico much more time and money to assemble a family tree of only maybe four or five generations than it costs anyone nowadays. I see how this disparity has perhaps fueled a sense of ownership in some older researchers.

Individuals in Mexico who have had the privilege to view and possess original documents and family heirlooms should consider themselves fortunate--but not unparalleled. You see, Technology has evened the score for the rest of us.

I understand how some who are stuck in the old paradigm feel a sense of being robbed, and all I can say is that we are living in the year 2013. Get with the program. You do not own anything and no one is stealing from you, or robbing you of anything. [I am speaking of information on ancestors who lived 100 years ago or more.] Information technology is advancing at such a rapid rate, that in a few years' time, in terms of genealogy, most of the developed World will have access to their 'personal' family tree going back many-many generations--without doing a minute of research themselves. Get with the program or just don’t participate in any forums like NuestrosRanchos or anywhere else on the Internet. You won’t be much missed.

I recall a comment that was posted here by a respected Mexican researcher. He said that (and I am paraphrasing)...there were some genealogists who work without any purpose--these are the ones who assemble projects of general utility for the community as a whole--but that, although meritorious, they 'have no grace.' I believe he was directing that comment at me, as he was responding to a post I wrote dealing with the issue of Genealogy and piracy.

Now let us define 'Grace.' Grace is: elegance or refinement. I am sure most of you will agree that our GuadalajaraDispensas.com volunteers are all the epitome of Grace, in the complete definition of the word when compared to those who hoard their supposedly personal information and heirlooms.

My humble opinion.

-Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com

I just learned about this service:
https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services

-Raquel

Thank you, Joseph, for passing on a very informative website, I spent most of
my afternoon reading it.

Thank you for sharing it with us.

Ann M. Gutierrez

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From: Joseph Puentes
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Sent: Sat, February 2, 2013 10:30:43 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] FW: Somos Primos February 2013 149th Online Issue

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Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 12:07 AM
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Subject: Somos Primos February 2013 149th Online Issue

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Pues que se quede con sus dos baules y sus tres petaquillas ,que nosotros tenemos muchas mas

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From: nacho_cuv@hotmail.com
To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hola! a todos recurro a ustedes recibi este mensaje y estoy en shock no se que pensar menos contestar
Date: Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:36 PM

Managers of Juan Gomez Garcia-´Rubio,
saludos ....quiero hacer saver ....que no mas info...va ha ser aderida a este sitio
ya que hay personas que por apellidarse gomez ...han adoptado a mi fam..como la suya ...no mas... no mas..me hago entender......
yo tengo en mi propiedad 2 baules , 3 petaquillas ..de mi fam..
con actas de fe de bautismos.. matrimonios ..titulos ..titulos de propiedades
biblias de mi fam..puresa de sangre..etc..etc..y todo eso es personal y privado.
..adios... y buena suerte...O.gomez
I am contacting you about this profile: http://www.geni.com/people/Juan-Gomez-Garcia-%C2%B4Rubio/6000000008...

Sincerely,

gomez

Thank you Joseph. It is the Popul since it is in Jalisco. Ropula was an
error on my part. After studying it further it looks like Populo??

Mickey

In a message dated 9/14/2010 7:01:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
makas@nc.rr.com writes:

I went here: http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm and
found a Populo in Puebla and a Popul in Jalisco

Nothing for Ropula

Nothing for Topulo

joseph

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Genealogy)

MMG8938@aol.com wrote:
> Has anyone ever heard of a ranch called the Rancho del Populo or
Rancho del
> Ropula; Rancho del Topulo??? This is in Jalisco...I figure somewhere
> close to Guadalajara/Tonala region. Would really appreciate help on
this
> question.
>
> Mickey

With many stories they can get jumbled through the generations. My father's aunt married into the de Alba family from San Juan, so I have done a little research. I have a Jose Teodoro de Alba baptized 02 Apr 1854 in San Juan whose parents were Gabino & Inez de Alba. Gabino's mother was a Gonzales: Ma Dolores Gonzales. His father was Ramon de Alba, so there still may be some truth to the story. In my research as I told Steve, some stories turn out to be true, and some not so true. :)
Irma Gomez Gtz
N. California

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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:36:57 -0500
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Not the same year or mother's surname but same date and month in San Juan:

name: Jose Teodoro Alba Alba
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Apr 1854
baptism/christening place: SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO
father's name: Gabino Alba
mother's name: Ynes Alba
indexing project (batch) number: C60340-2
system origin: Mexico-ODM
source film number: 220661
reference number:
Citing this Record
"Mexico, Baptisms, 1560-1950," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J9Y9-LPX : accessed 14 Jan 2013),
Jose Teodoro Alba Alba, 02 Apr 1854; citing SAN JUAN DE LOS
LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 220661.

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> bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Steve Compton
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 12:41 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alba family
>
> I'm trying to find more information about the family of my great
grandfather. His name
> was Teodoro Alba. Most of the information we have about his origins come
from stories
> passed down from him to his children, so they should be regarded as more
legend than
> fact. This includes that he was born in or near Guadalajara around 1856 or
1857. His
> father, whose surname was Alba, had stowed away on a ship from Spain to
Mexico. His
> mother's surname was Gonzales and she was of Mayan descent. He had several
siblings,
> but we don't know their names. At some point the father left and returned
to Spain.
> Teodoro joined the Mexican army while still a teenager, deserted and
crossed into Texas
> sometime between 1875 and 1880. There he became an accomplished cowboy. He
> gradually adapted the American spelling of Alby.
>
>
>
> He married Mary Ellen Marks in Bonham, Texas on October 8, 1891. They had
7 children,
> 4 of whom lived. His wife Mary Ellen died shortly after 1910.
> Around 1920, he and his children settled in Bixby, Oklahoma where they
came to own
> several businesses. He was affectionately known to everyone in this small
town as "Dad"
> Alby. His citizenship paper in 1938 describes him as 81 years of age; a
white male of
> medium complexion; blue eyes; grey hair; five feet, three inches in height
and widowed.
> He died in Bixby on December 18, 1943.
>
>
>
> Some in the family believe was actually born in San Juan de los Lagos. I
have found a
> birth record for a Teodoro Alva Terrones born on April 2, 1857 in that
location.
>
>
>
> Any leads would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> scompton

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