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Hello all, just started looking a little further into my grandmother's (father's side) Luna line and have already run into a little snag. I thought I would throw it out there in case anyone recognizes something.

My grandmother was named Juana Magallanez Luna (1/6/1904 – March 1983) with the follwing info:

According to original Civil documents she was from Moyahua De Estrada, Zacatecas, was born on January 6, 1904. Per the same original civil documents, her mother was Albina Magallanez and was 35
years of age around her birth which means she was born around 1865. Juana's father was C. Florencio Luna (age 36 around 1864). Same records also show Florencio Luna’s parents to be Domingo Luna & Julia Avila. Records show parents of Albina Magallanez to be Guillermo Magallanez & Maria Trinidad Benavides. Now when I search throught the LDS system, under vital records (Batch #M643958, Film #1162574), I come up with a Florentino Luna (born 1861) who was married to a Alvina Magallanes
on April 27, 1881 in Moyahua, Zacatecas, Mexico. The records states that Alvina Magallanes was 15 years old when married which would put her DOB at around 1864, around the same time as the original civil document I cited. The LDS records state that Florentino Luna’s parent were Domingo Luna & Juana Garcia. On the original civil document cited above, Florencio’s parents were listed as Domingo Luna & Julia Avila, not Juana Garcia. Also, the parents of Alvina Magallanes are listed as Sesario Magallanes and Trinidad Benavides. ON the original Civil document, the father is listed as Guillermo Magallanez not Sesario Magallanes, yet the mother is listed the same as Trinidad Benavides. I think it would be too much of a coincidence if this was a different Florencio Luna and Alvina Magallanes. However, Alvina's father does not match up and Florencio's mother does not match up. Could not find anything else. I have records at the Family History Center on order, but I thought I would throw it out there and give it a shot.

Thanks for the de la Torre info. I have been so stuck on them.

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Yes, I have found such varying descriptions of race in baptisms in my research. One family had several children, and I was amazed that each child was listed with a race different from his parents. In this family I found "espanol", "yndio", "mestizo", and "mulato". A rainbow family.

I guess the priests did look at the complexion of the child, although I thought all newborns looked the same (reddish) and didn't take on color until they were older.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

My ancestors have been traced to this area of Jalisco. So far I have Miguel Mora born in La Barca in 1882-1963. His father was Jose Miguel Mora born in 1855 in Jamay, Jalisco. His father was Jose Maria Mora born about 1831 in Ocotlan. My line descends back to Antonio Mora born 7-30-1806 in Ocotlan. Finally I have reached a roadblock with the Rafael Mora and Gertrudis Vaca marriage about 1800. Is their anybody that is related to this Mora family or that might have some possible information. I know that this family was in Jalisco for many years.

I am submitting the following for whatever input/help the group can offer. All from Jerez.

Joseph Phelipe de Jesus Gonzales Gallegos, Christening 19 Feb 1764 Jerez, Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas Mex, father Fernando Gonzales, mother Barbara Sebastiana Gallegos, Source Batch No C600803, Source Call No 0439846

I need his brother Juan Jose Faustino Gonzales

Bernardo Ygnacio Gonzales married Juana Micaela Muro about 1743, children: (1)Maria Caatharina Gonzalez del Muro, christening 11 May 1743, father Bernardo Gonzalez, mother Juana del Muro FHL Film 439844 (2)Anna Basilia Laurencia Gonzalez Muro, christening 07 Jul 1748, father Bernardo Gonzalez, mother Juana Michaela Muro, batch C600802. Source call no 0439845

I need Bernardo's info and his parents Juan Gonzales and Josefa Gonzalez Quero

Roque de La Torre married Juana del Torre. Their children (1)Nicolasa de la Torre Gonzales, christening 24 Mar 1694, father Roque de La Torre and mother Juana de La Torre, FHL film 439844 (2)Ysabel De La Torre Gonzales, christening 27 Dec 1696, father Roque de la Torre, mother Juana Gonzalez, FHL film 439844 (3) Roque Xasinto De La Torre De La Torre, christening 8 Sep 1698, father Roque de la Torre, Mother Juana de la Torre, FHL film 439844

Children of Manuel de la Torre (1)Juana de la Torre de Aro, christening 17 Apr 1688, father Manuel de La Torre, mother Josepha de Aro, FHL film 439844, unable to locate batch C600801 on FamilySearch.org (2) Jasinto DeLaTorre Gonzales, christening 15 May 1686, father Manuel de la Torre, mother Josepha Gonzales, FHL film 439844

The last find was Maria Antonia Gonsales de Guero, christening 20 Jul 1648, father Gabriel Gonsales, mother Mariana de Guero (should have been spelled Quero) FHL film 439844. Sstill have plenty of missing info.

Thanks - Anita

My Aguinaga family crossed at El Paso, Texas on 12 July 1918. My
grandmother Ysabel Rodriquez, my uncle Juan Aguinaga , age five, and
Great-grandfather, Juan Guerra Aguinaga, his wife Maria Cruz Ortiz Bonilla
also accompanied them. My grandfather Leonardo Aguinaga had been crossing
the border and working ( since 1910) met them there. At this time he
worked for the Southern Pacific Railroad between Deming, Nm, Duncan and
Clifton Az maintaining the rails. After 3 years of working on the rails
they settled in Calexico, California (1920). Leonardo an Ysabel later had
six other children, one being my own father Salvador Aguinaga. My father and
mother had 9 Kids. I am the oldest. My research of my family has taken me
to Jalisco. Most church records come from Senor San Jose Church records.
Today in Matanzas, Jalisco and several towns in Lagos de Moreno I believe
have lots of Aguinagas. In my research of Matanzas I have found really two
types of Aguinagas. Several years ago I started DNA testing some family
members and found out that there are two different DNAs, one is Native
Indian (which I am) and the other which is European. My best guess is that
my Indian ancestor assumed the name of Aguinaga when and if they worked on
the ranch or farm of the Aguinaga. My research will continue on the Aguinaga
Families and their branches and any Indian history in the area. I plan to
visit Matanzas, Jalisco and the area in November 2009. Tom Solorio
Aguinaga

Hello Everyone,

I am looking for the parents or any info on Diego Diaz Montanez de Sandi and Juana Josepha Albares Tostado, who were married Jan 13, 1737 in Nochistlan.
I found in the LDS files a Juana Maria Alvares Tostado born 1721 Jalostotitlan, parents: Lucas Alvarez Tostado and Apolonia Fernandez Cordero. But I am not certain if it is the Juana I am looking for.

Thank you.
Sofia

I am grateful for the information I have gotten from the group. Thanks to Member Sally for giving me info to carry my line forward. The following is provided for any comments, suggestions, corrections, leads etc.
Maria Gonzales, b 24 May 1885, pob Zacastecas, Zac, mn Nestora Rodriguez, fn Marcelo Gonzalez
Marcelo Gonzalez, b Abt 1885, mn Maria de Jesus Banuelos (born about 1837 in Rancho de la Macita, Zac), fn Juan Jose Jesus Gonzalez
Juan Jose Jesus Gonzalez, b abt 08 Feb 1833, pob Tepetango Zac, mn Maria Vicenta Carlos (b abt 01 Feb 1795 pob Tepetongo, Zac), fn Juan Nepomuceno Gonzalez
Juan Nepomuceno Gonzalez, b abt 30 Aug 1793, pob Tepetongo, mn Maria G Salinas, fn Juan Jose Faustino Gonzalez
Juan Jose Faustino Gonzalez, b abt 23 Feb 1766 in Jerez de Garcia Salinas Zac, mn Barbara Severiana Gallegos, b abt 1743, fn Fernando Gonzalez
Fernando Gonzalez, b abt 1743, mn Juana M Muro, fn Bernardo Ygnacio Gonzalez
Bernardo Ygnacio Gonzalez, mn Juana Roblez, fn Juan Gonzalez
Juan Gonzalez, mn Josefa G Quero

Back to Barbara Severiana Gallegos, mn Nicolasa de la Torre Gonzalez, b abt 24 Mar 1693/94 in Jerez de Garcia Salinas, fn Francisco Gallegos
Nicolasa de la Torre Gonzalez, fn Roque de la Torre, mn Juana del Torre
Juana del Torre, fn Manuel d la Torre, mn Josefa G Quero (Josefa Gonzales Aro Quero)
Josefa G Quero, mn Mariana Quero, Fn Gabriel G Aro
Gabriel G Aro, Mn Catalina Aro

According to oral family history, Maria Gonzalez’ first marriage was to a Dr Juan Brena who was a multimillionaire. He had a plantation behind the Capitol of Mexico where he raised gum trees. These lands were confiscated during the Mexican Revolution. Dr. Brena died in Mexico about 1918. He left his son, Marcelo Gonzalez, from his second marriage to Maria, a substantial inheritance including 52 vecindades in Zacatecas.

Marcelo Gonzalez at one time lived at Callejon del Indio Triste No. 59 and at one time worked at radio station XE2DJ, a picture which I have not figured out how to post.
Again according to oral history, Maria lived a life of luxury while married to Dr. Brena. She lived in a 3 story mansion in Mexico City which was located behind the Cathedral on Calle del Reloj and was in front of the Treatro Alarcon.

The following paragraph is found in “Barrios de Zacatecas” author Fidencio Berumen: “Esta casa del magnanimo espanol, es la que antano occupara la Jefatura de la Zona Militar, en la calle que leva el nombre de Juan de Tolosa, casa que fuera propiedad ultimamente de la testamentaria del Dr Brena, y en la actualidad de la familia Kuri Brena”

Is there a connection between these two mansions? I am not even sure that Dr Brena was of the Kuri Brena family. With these facts, can anyone fill in blanks and offer any corrections to my information. Oral history came from Maria’s nephew and I have not found any documents to verify this info.

Thanks - Anita

My great-grandfather's grandfather Jose Lorenso Santoyo (born abt. 1775) was son of Joseph (Manuel?) Santoyo and Maria Josefa Diaz (de Leon?). I have not been able to find Jose Lorenso's birth certificate, but in his marriage (11 may 1808, San Jose de Ojuelos, Jal) to Maria Josefa Masias the parents of both are listed. In a search of Jose Lorenso's siblings I found the following individuals whom I believe, by the names of the parents, the timeline (1770-1802) and the places (all localities linked to Cienega de Mata & Ojuelos), to be siblings.
1. Juan Joseph Santoyo Dias. baptized 17 May 1772, Senor San Jose, Ojuelos. Son of Joseph Santoyo and Maria Josefa Dias. Batch C602501 film 0639958. 2. Jose Alberto Santoyo Dias. baptized 22 Jun 1785, Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. Son of Jose Manuel Santoyo&Maria Josefa Dias. batch number C607042 film 640153.
In addition there are seven marriages all in microfilm M602326 0641016. 3. Maria Paulina Santollo, Born in Letras. Daughter of Josse Manuel Santollo & Maria Josefa Dias. M. Ramon Martines Soto Mallor, 28 Nov 1787, Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos M602326 0641016.
4. Maria Jossefa Santollo. Daughter of Josse Manuel Santollo & Maria Jossefa Dias de Leon. M. Josse de Santiago de la Rosa. 9 Oct 1788. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. M602326 0641016.
5. Jose Antonio Santoyo. b. Puesto de Letras. Son of Jose Santoyo and Maria Josefa Diaz. M. Gertrudis de Lira. 10 May 1794. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos.
M602326 0641016.
6. Maria Josefa Santollo. b. in San Miguel. Daughter of Jose Manuel Santollo & Maria Josefa Dias. M. (2nd marriage?) to Jose Desiderio Campos. 6 May 1795. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos.
7. Maria Anastacia Santoyo. b. San Miguel. daughter of Jose Santoyo & Maria Josefa Diaz. M. to Jose Luciano Campos Lopez. 3 Feb 1796. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. M602326 0641016.
8. Jose Policarpo Santoyo. b. Ombligo. Son of Jose Manuel Santoyo & Maria Josefa Dias. m. to Maria Del Refugio Aranda. 19 Sept 1802. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. M602326 0641016.
9. Maria Rafaela Santollo, B. San Miguel del Duraznillo. Daughter of Jose Santollo and Maria Josefa Diaz. M. to Jose Francisco de Lira. 24 Nov 1802, Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos M602326 0641016.
I would expect that the records 1&2 (christening) would be the most useful. Hopefully the names of the grandparents are listed helping confirm all these individuals as the same family. The name Jose (Joseph or Josse) Manuel in combination with Santoyo (Santollo) with Maria Josefa Dias (or Diaz) or Dias de Leon, indicates that there is a good chance that is the case. Does anyone has any of these films on loan, particularly the christenings to solve this question? It would be a great help.
Thanks, Jaime

No, what I saw was film numbers for the church in Moyahua dating from 1814 to the 1600's.  If we could get a hold of those films we would be able to extend our lines.   I believe that is why we are not able to find records on Silverio Reynoso.  He and many other family members would be on those films.
Irene

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From: Claudia_Reynoso
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Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:26:34 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Irene Sewwt (otra prima)

Thanks Irene for the note.  I searched on somosprimos and found this below, is it what you are talking about???

635. MARIANA15 DE PADILLA-DAVILA-Y-MEDINA (SANCHO15 DE PADILLA-DAVILA, MARIANA14 DE FIGUEROA, MARIANA13 BANUELOS, DIEGO12 TREMINO-DE-VELASCO, BERNARDINO11 FERNANDEZ-DE-VELASCO, FRANCISCO10, BEATRIZ9 MANRIQUE-DE-LARA-Y-CASTILLA, PEDRO8 MANRIQUE-DE-LARA, JUANA7 DE MENDOZA, PEDRO6 GONZALEZ-DE-MENDOZA, GONZALO5 HURTADO-DE-MENDOZA, DIEGO4, DIEGO3, DIEGO2 LOPEZ-DE-MENDOZA, LOPO1 GONZALEZ-DE-MENDOZA) She married FRANCISCO DE REYNOSO. He was born in Peru.

Children of MARIANA DE PADILLA-DAVILA-Y-MEDINA and FRANCISCO DE REYNOSO are:

i. FRANCISCO16 REYNOSO-PADILLA, b. Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico; m. JOSEFA DE RENTERIA-Y-VALDEZ.

ii. JUAN REYNOSO-PADILLA, b. 1632, Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.

iii. DIEGO REYNOSO-PADILLA, b. 05 Jan 1633/34, Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico; m. (1) MARIA LOPEZ-DE-LARA-Y-PADILLA; m. (2) MARGARITA RENTERIA.

iv. JOSEPH REYNOSO-PADILLA, b. 12 Feb 1637/38, Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico; m. MARIA DE OROZCO-Y-VALDEZ.

v. ANTONIO REYNOSO-PADILLA, b. 26 May 1639, Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.

Greetings!

My name is Ron Schuler and I am primarily researching the following surnames and locations:

MARQUEZ ● VALDES ● GOMEZ ● DE LA TORRE

JEREZ, ZACATECAS; “LOS CUERVOS”

Marquez - Gomez Lines

My Maternal GG-Grandfather was named Francisco Marquez. He was married to Aleja Gomez, who died before December 1899. They had at least four children:

* Petronilo Marquez, b. May 31, 1859, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico; d. February 09, 1943, Los Angeles, California.
* Juana Marquez, b. July 05, 1868, Los Cuervos, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico; m. Jose Ines Rivera, November 29, 1899, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico; b. Abt. 1874.
* Maria Rufina Marquez, b. July 25, 1869, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico.
* Tomas Marquez, b. March 12, 1871, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico.

According to family tradition, my G-Grandfather, Petronilo Marquez, was a wealthy landowner and distiller in Jerez who was forced from his land during the Mexican Revolution. He married Higinia Valdes (see below), and they had the following children:

* Aurelia Marquez, b. April 14, 1899; d. October 14, 1977; m. Jesus Beruman; b. February 05, 1889; d. May 31, 1960.
* Alfonso Marquez, b. February 23, 1901, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico; d. June 12, 1968, Los Angeles, California.
* Fernando “Joe” Marquez, b. May 30, 1904, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico; d. February 12, 1999, La Habra, California.
* Luis Marquez, b. August 25, 1910, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico; d. May 09, 1978, Industry, California; m. (1) Gloria ?; m. (2) Doris A. Rivera.
* Dolores “Lola” Marquez, b. March 29, 1912; d. August 05, 2003, La Mirada, California.

Petronilo and his family emigrated to the Los Angeles area in 1916.

Valdes - De La Torre Lines

My G-Grandmother Higinia Valdes (b. January 11, 1879, Mexico; d. August 16, 1963, Los Angeles, California) was the daughter of Jose Maria Valdes and his wife Tomasa De La Torre, my GG-Grandparents. Jose Maria and Tomasa had at least one other child, Amalia, b. July 29, 1886, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico. Family tradition holds that the 1950s-era Mexican film actress Martha Valdes is related to our Valdes line.

I have more information regarding the descendants of Petronilo Marquez and Higinia Valdes, but I have a lot of work to do with respect to my GG-Grandparents’ generation and their ancestors. I would to hear about potential connections to my GG-Grandparents.

I look forward to hearing from and trading info with anyone researching these lines.

Thanks in advance,

Ron Schuler

I'm researching my sister-in-laws family, a tree is in the files area under
Eric Edgar.

Martin *de la O* b. 1898 in *Colotlan*

Lasaro *de la O* b. 17 Dec 1906, *Colotlan*

Agustin *de la O* b. 30 Sep 1911. *Colotlan*

all immigrated to California between 1920 and 1930.

The parents: Cipriano Gaeta* de la O* b.3 Oct 1876 in *Boquilla, Jalisco*

Francisca *Carillo Carillo* b. abt 1884 *Colotlan.*

Does this relate to other *de la O* families I've seen mentioned on this
site ? I haven't found any info in the files.

The most distant relative found is Bernardino *de la O* b. abt 1804 ,
*Tlatenango,
Zacatecas.*
married in *Colotlan* on 28 Nov 1829 to
Maria Ysabel *Alvares
Miramontes* b. 17 Jul 1811 in *Momax, Zacatecas*
**
both died in* Boquilla.*
**
I'm assuming that the Boquilla mentioned is La Boquilla Zaragoza, a few
miles to the north east of Colotlan. There is a reference in an article
about nearby town *Totatiche* of a hacienda owned by a* **de la O* family.
Anyone with knowledge of this area?

Eric Edgar

Daniel,

I just checked FamilySearch.org and it is not updated. It has a new look, but I am not finding in the IGI what I am finding in the Pilot Site (see link below).

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0

This pilot site is so great. I am finding ancestors I have been looking for for years that were never indexed in the IGI. I also am finding many ancestors who came from Mexico and settled in the Lower El Paso Valley and Mesilla Valley 100 years ago (in the Texas Death records). Every day that I check this site, I find they have uploaded more and more baptism records and census info.

Another site that is great for those of us whose ancestors settled in the southwest in the late 1800s and early 20th century is GenealogyBank.com. They have historical newspapers from the Southwest, and I found an article about the assassination of my great-grandfather in 1900. I had only heard the story from my mother and her siblings, but they didn't know the details. He was a wealthy rancher in the Mesilla Valley, and the story appeared in papers as far as the Kansas City Star.

My housework and yardwork have gone to pot, I spend so much time browsing the Pilot Site. I also signed up as a volunteer and downloaded the program to do indexing for them, but I can't figure out how to contact them to give me a project to work on.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Hello All, the familysearch website the one we know

as www.familysearch.org has been redone with new changes!

It is different now, in a matter of years it will contain all genealogical microfilm records
but for now it is updated.

-Daniel

Hola Claudia ,how are you ? Well I hope . I descend from the Reynoso line of Jalisco. There were 2 brothers Francisco and Diego Reynoso whose parents were Francisco Reynoso (born In Peru ) and Mariana Padilla Davilla (Culiacan and related to all Padillas in the Area) . The 2 brothers married 2 sisters Josefa and Margarita Renteria. Francisco married Josefa (1659)in Guadalajara and Diego married Margarita in(1680) Juchipila ,Zacatecas. So in a nut shell Francisco stayed in Jalisco and Diego in Zacatecas.What are your thoughts ?
Ronnie Pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco
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Hello Everyone,

I wanted to ask if anyone has a copy of the film for Nuestra Señora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche,
Batch # M602488 film #0639756.
I've been waiting for the film for months.
I'm trying to discover the parents of Francisco Muñoz de Nava and Juana Rosalia Diaz de Zandi, who were married the 5th of Febuary 1758.
I would appreciate any help.

Thank you.
Sofia

Hello all

Has anyone come across a site for the ship passenger lists for Mexico.
There must have been a least two ports where ships coming from Spain
would have arrived, Tampico and Veracruz. Where would they have kept
such records from about 1750 to mid 1800. I'm searching for my SAAVEDRA
line that ends up in Mapimi, Durango, but don't know where to look
next. Would the ships traveled directly to Mexico or would they have
made other stops along the way. Where would the ships leaving Spain
depart from amd is there access to those records. It is possible that
they might have traveled under the BALTAZAR OR SAAVEDRA name, since we
have seen documents where they interchange the last names ?????
Any help or guidance would be appreciated!

Yolanda Medina Perez
El Paso, Texas

Hi Daniel and everyone,

Taking a moment to reply to Daniel concerning my maiden last name, de la O. This is my father's paternal last name and I have located an aunt who is doing research on the de la O Ortiz branch of the family. I'm extremely busy right now. My seven siblings and I are getting together in El Paso, Texas on August 1st to celebrate our Mom's 80th birthday. I was appointed the job of writing Mom's story and my husband is putting together a genealogical tree. We also collected as many pictures as possible to share with the family. As you can imagine this has become quite an undertaking. This project has taken over our lives for the past few months. Hopefully when we return from Texas in August, we'll to participate more fully in the information exchange for Nuestros Ranchos. We traveled to Mexico in April to meet aunts and uncles and they gave us so much valuable information that I definitely recommend that anyone doing genealogical research should travel to their
"motherland" and try to meet as many people as possible. My husband and I have been bitten by the genealogical bug. Finding new people just pushes us to find more. Next year, God willing, we'll be traveling to Zacatecas. In the meantime we will continue to send for films from LDS and I will post the film number and what it covers in case anyone is interested. We look forward to becoming more active in the near future.

Raquel de la o de Livingston

Hello Everyone,

I just found this info and I thought I would put it in case it helps anyone:

Hola A Todos,

Acabo de encontrar esta informacion que pense que podia ayudar a algien en su buscada:

Sofia

Partidas de Bautismos y Defunciones de Españoles
del Primer Libro de Xalostotitlan y
Matrimonios y Defunciones de Tepatitlan, Jalisco
Siglo XVII
Paleografiado por Gullermo Padilla Origel
guillermopadillao@prodigy.net.mx
Leon, GTO, Julio de 2
BAUTISMOS de XALOSTOTITLAN

29 de Diciembre de 1698
Bernardo, esp. h.l. de Domingo Cornrejo y G. de Hermosillo, fueron sus padrinos, Don Cristóbal de Padilla y Doña Josefa de Valdes.
10 de Enero de 1699
Josepha, esp., h.l. de Estéban Iñiguez y de Isabel Cárdenas, fueron sus padrinos, Nicolás de Cárdenas y Constanza Rodríguez.
10 de Febrero de 1699
Joseph Cayetano, esp. h.l. de Isidro Gutiérrez de Mendoza y de Rosa Enríquez del Castillo, fueron sus padrinos Juan Gutiérrez Lozano y Aldonza Galván de Rojas.
1 de Marzo de 1699
Francisca, esp. h.l. de Juan López y Lucía de Mendoza, fueron sus pardrinos, Bernardo Gómez y Doña María de Estrada.
4 de Marzo de 1699
María de la Candelaria, esp., h.l. de Diego Rodríguez e Isabel de Sepúlveda, fueron sus padrinos, Fernando Gómez y Maria de Estrada.
9 de Marzo de 1699
Josepha María, esp. h.l. de Don Juan de Padilla y Dona Gertrudis de Nava, fueron sus padrinos, El Capitan, Joseph Gonzalez y Doña Petronilla de Orozco y Mendoza.
24 de Marzo de 1699
Nicolasa, esp., h.l. de Diego Galán Gallardo y Dona Beatriz de Aceves, fueron sus padrinos Don Alonso de Aguirre y Doña Mariana de Alcala.
24 de Marzo de 1699
Josepha, esp., h.l. de Antonio Cornejo y de Maria de Mendoza, fueron sus padrinos, Sebastián Macias y Petronila Muñoz de Nava.
15 de Abril de 1699
María Isidora, esp., h.l. de Don Lazaro Martin del Campo y de Doña Catalina Gonzalez de Hermosillo, fueron sus padrinos el Cap. Joseph Pérez, de esta feligresia.
15 de Abril de 1699
María Clara, esp, h.l. de Joseph Perez Franco y de Lorenza Gutierrez de Hermosillo, fueron sus padrinos., el Cap. Alonso Gomez de Aguirre y Doña Mariana de Alcala, su mujer.
26 de Abril de 1699
Joseph Manuel, esp. h.l. de Gregorio de Figueroa y de Maria Martín de Alarcón, fue su padrinos, el Cap. Carlos Francisco de Vallarta.
28 de Abril de 1699
Bernardo Hermenegildo, esp., h.l. de Bernardo Hermández y de Rosa María González, fueron sus padrinos, Alonso Hernández de Rueda y Catalina Ramírez, su mujer.
4 de Mayo de 1699
Beatriz, esp., h.l. de Don Bernardo de Santillán y de Paula Hernández de Rueda, fueron sus padrinos, Joseph Hernández de Rueda, de esta jur.
6 de Mayo de 1699
Gertrudis Efigenia, esp. h.l. de Don Juan de Ledesma y de (no se lee este tronzo), fueron sus padrinos Don Juan Antonio Franco y Doña Isabel Gutierrez.
6 de Mayo de 1699
Manuel, esp. h.l. de Don Juan de Dkios Ximénez y de Francisca Gutierrez, fueron sus padrinos, Cristobal Gutierrez y María de Láris, Su mujer.
10 de Mayo de 1699
Emerenciana, esp. h.l. de Jerónimo González y de Matiana de Torres, fueron sus padrinos, Luis de Hermosillo y Ana González de Hermosillo.
18 de Mayo de 1699
Marcos, esp. h.l. de Pedro Sanchez y de Gertrudis López, fueron sus padrinos, el Cap., Miguel Gutiérrez de Hermosillo y Doña Lorenza González de Hermosillo.
30 de Junio de 1699
Sebastiana Josefa, esp. h.l. de Cristobal Franco y de Francisca de Lomelí, fueron sus padrinos, Nicolás Franco y María Pérez.
14 de Agosto de 1699
Francisco Ventura, esp. h.l. de Francisco Segura y de Angela Flores, fueron sus padrinos, Francisco Cornejo y Juana de Olivares.
10 de Septiembre de 1699
Joseph Fermín, esp., h.l. de Diego Vargas y de María de Hermosillo, fueron sus padrinos, Pedro de Vargas y Lenor de Hermosillo.
11 de Septiembre de 1699
Juan, esp., j.l. de Juan de Carvajal y de María de Arevalo, fue su madrina Doña Francisca de Ayala.
21 de Septiembre de 1699
Luis, esp., h.l. de Joseph Guitiérrez Coronado y Mariana de Mendoza y de Hermosillo, fueron sus padrinos, Pedro de Andrada y Josefa de Medoza y Hermosillo.
23 de Septiembre de 1699
María, esp., h.l. de Don Jeronimo de Villaseñor y de Ana Muñoz, fueron sus padrinos, Francisco Muñoz de Hermosillo y Francisca Gutierrez.
9 de Octubre de 1699
Salvador, esp. h.l. de Nicolás de Loza y Antonia de la Barrera, fueron sus padrinos, Salvador de la Cueva y Antonia de la Barrera.
12 de Octubre de 1699
Petrona, esp. h.l. de Juan Munoz de Barba y de Mariana de Padilla, fueron sus padrinos, Don Cristóbal de Padilla y Doña Luisa de Hermosillo.
13 Noviembre de 1699
Antonia, esp., h.lo. de Bartolome de . . . y de Micaela Sánchez, fueron sus padrinos Don Jerónimo de Villaseñor y Doña Ana Muñoz.
13 Diciembre de 1699
Luisa, esp. h.l. de Francisco de Padilla y de Ana Muñoz, fueron sus padrinos, Don Cristóbal de Padilla y Doña Luis de Hermosillo.

13 Diciembre de 1699
María Teresa, esp. h.l. de Don Manuel de Aceves y de Rosa de Paredes, fueron sus padrinos, Joseph Pérez Franco y Lorenza su mujer.

15 Diciembre de 1699
Francisco de lo Santos, esp., h.l. de Don Nicolás de Contreras y de Luisa López, fueron sus padrinos el Cap. Mariano Zermeño y María Rodriguez de Portugal.
18 Diciembre de 1699
Juan, esp., h.l. de Mateo de Rubalcava y Francisca Carranza, fueron sus padrinos, Francisco Casillas y Luisa de Rodas.

Maria de Gabay y Ana Francisca de Gabay eran hermanas. Este dato lo
encontre en el libro de Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias "Genealogia
de Nochistlan Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia". El capitulo 58 del libro
contiene esta informacion.

Estube revisando mi archivo y parece que mis datos concuerdan con los de
John. Tengo el matrimonio de Diego Alonso de Hermosillo el 23 Feb 1645 con
Luisa Munoz de Nava. El nombre Diego Alonso de Hermosillo o Diego Ramirez
de Hermosillo es un nombre que aparece frecuentemente entre estas familias.
Nicolas Ramirez de Hermosillo (hermano del Diego casado con Luisa) tambien
tuvo un hijo llamado Diego Alonso Ramirez de Hermosillo que nacio en
1667. Lamentablemente no tengo mas datos acerca de Juana Alderete.

Maria

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> Muchas gracias Maria,
> La informacion me es muy util. Me pregunto cual era la relacion de
> Maria de Gabay con Ana Francisca de Gabay la esposa de Lope Ruiz Esparza?
>
> Jaime
>

Marisela,

Have you tried Nochistlan in your records search, it's a neighboring town, 30 km distance and there are many Quezadas.

Alicia Carrillo
San Jose, Calif

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Hello everyone!!!

My grandfather's name is Mateo Quesada.? His parents were Emigdio Quezada and Micaela Ibarra.
Mateo Quesada was christened on 26 Sep 1881 @ Nuestra Senora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico.
I have no other information.? I think Mateo Quesada had brothers but there was a big fallout.

I was told that one of my ancestors came from Germany and "bought" the Quezada name from a family in Aguascalientes so he could stay in Mexico.? So I'm really stuck as to my geneology.? Does anyone know anything that might be able to help me or stear me in the right direction??? Any information would be of great help.

Marisela Quezada
Fresno, California

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I would like everyone to at least give their first names when they reply
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Some of us don't reply all that often and it is hard to tell exactly who
you are. You might just say something that might make us interested in
your genealogy. How would we go to the files area and either search for
your "members genealogies" folder or to the gedcom section and search
for your gedcom???? So why not give your first and last name until you
have posted about 3 or 4 times within a 2-3 month period then after that
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heck I might not even remember you if you give your first and last name
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. . .what do you think shall we close the list to new membership until
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. . . .just kidding.

joseph (Puentes)

Hello everyone!!!

My grandfather's name is Mateo Quesada.? His parents were Emigdio Quezada and Micaela Ibarra.
Mateo Quesada was christened on 26 Sep 1881 @ Nuestra Senora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico.
I have no other information.? I think Mateo Quesada had brothers but there was a big fallout.

I was told that one of my ancestors came from Germany and "bought" the Quezada name from a family in Aguascalientes so he could stay in Mexico.? So I'm really stuck as to my geneology.? Does anyone know anything that might be able to help me or stear me in the right direction??? Any information would be of great help.

Marisela Quezada
Fresno, California

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I found the following additional information on Maria Gabay:

"Gaspar Melchor y Maria Gabay se casaron el 24 de Julio de 1657" This looks like a second marriage for Maria Gabay.

John Gonzalez.