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That's very interesting. Thanks for letting us know.

My nephew was born with the Mongolian blue spot. The only person in our family we believe was ever born that way. Like your haplogroups, his purplish spot at the base of his spine is like a signpost pointing across the Pacific.

Everybody had to see his butt!

Mexico has a long connection with the east. as Arturo indicated. The Filipinos cheered "Viva Mexico, Mabuhay!" when they heard Mexico had broken away from Spain. They expected it was their turn next. And indeed, a Mexican soldier serving in Manila declared the Independence of the Phillippines.

But the Spaniards swiftly caught him, and hung him from the highest tree.

The last flotilla left Las Filipinas loaded with silks and porcelains from China for Acapulco. and beyond.

But the Mexican govenrment confiscated the goods and refused to compensate the Filipino merchants, bankrupting many, and bringing an end to the Spanish Galleon trans-Pacific trade.

Hello-

I am researching the family of Beltran de La Cueva, or Beltran or De La
Cueva in the 17th century in Aguascalientes.

I am looking for info on:

Nicolasa Beltran de la Cueva AKA Nicolasa Theresa de la Cueva born abt.
1684. in Aguascalientes.

Her parents are:

Pedro de La Cueva and Elena Beltran.

Also I have read the book on the San Gabriel Valley and it was wonderfully
helpful to get me this far back.

Thanks!

Hello Everyone,

These are new names and dates that I have found in my Muñoz line, which come from San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitlan, Tepatitlan, san Miguel el Alto and Lago de Moreno. The ‘m’ is for marriage.
I know that Jose Pedro Muñoz was a high official in the late 1800’s and left due to the Revolution.

Sophia

m1884: Jose Pedro Muñoz(1854) married Francisca Lozano(1862) San Juan de los Lagos
Jose Pedro’s parents: Jose Narcisco Muñoz(1831) & Juliana Angel(1835) San Juan de los Lagos

Jose Narcisco’s parents: m1813-Jose Rafael Muñoz & Ma Alvina de Anda, San Juan de los Lagos
Ma Alvina’s’s parents: Jose Rafael de Anda & Josefa Ortega, San Juan de los Lagos

Jose Rafael’s parents: Luiz Antonio Muñoz(1764) & Luiza Maria Romo(1769) San Juan de los Lagos
Luiz’s parents: Francisco Muñoz de Nava & Juana Rosario Dias de Zandi, San Juan de los Lagos
Luiza’s parents: Juan Caietano Romo & Ma Guadalupe Martin, San Juan de los Lagos

Juliana’s parents: m1835-Jose Tiburcio Angel(1822) & Ma Trinidad Peres, San Juan de los Lagos
Tiburcio’s parents: m1815-Antonio Angel & Cleta Flores, San Juan de los Lagos
Trinidad’s parents: m1801-Antonio Peres & Ma Dolores Pacheco, San Juan de los Lagos

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Francisca’s parents: Guadalupe Lozano & Ma Lina Medina(1862) San Juan de los Lagos
Ma Lina’s parents: m1819- Jose Francisco Medina(1771) & Felipa Ramirez, San Juan de los Lagos

Jose Francisco’s parents: m1767- Antonio Medina & Pheliciana Velasquez, San Juan de los Lagos
Pheliciana’s parents: Juan Manuel Velasquez & Ma de San Juana Urqisa

Felipa’s parents: Ygnacio Ramirez & Marina Marquez

Guadalupe Lozano’s parents: Jose Marcelo Lozano & Juana Gertrudis Gonzalez(1772)
Jose Marcelo’s parents: m1769-Joseph Candido Lozano(1745) & Ma Dolores Camarena(1750)Ayotlan, Jalisco

Joseph Candido’s parents: Nicolas Lozano & Antonia Michaela Garcia
Ma Dolores’ parents: Phelipe Camarena & Ma Candelaria Padilla

Juana Gertrudis’ parents: m1771- Nicolas Gonzalez & Maria Simona Gutierrez(1752)Jalostotitlan, Jalisco
Nicolas’ parents: Domingo Gonzalez & Gertrudis de la Torre
Maria Simona’s parents: m1749-Joseph Gutierres de Mendoza & Mariana Muñoz de Nava, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco

Mariana’s parents: Manuel Muñoz & Maria SanJuan del Campo
Joseph’s parents:m1721-Cristobal Gutierres de Mendoza(1695) & Antonia Micaela Macial, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco

Hola a todos,

Se les avisa que las fechas tentativas para realizar la conferencia de
genealogía e historia de Los Altos de Jalisco aquí en Valle de Guadalupe son
el sábado 26 de julio y sábado 2 de agosto. El evento constará de un día de
conferencias, pláticas y una comida entre los miembros del grupo de Nuestros
Ranchos e invitados especiales. El siguiente día (domingo) se ofrecerá un
recorrido por Teocaltiche, Jalostotitlán, San Miguel el Alto y Valle de
Guadalupe, dependiendo de la cantidad de personas interesadas en este
recorrido. Los cronistas de cada lugar serán invitados a dar el recorrido
con nosotros.

También les hago saber que en las pláticas del sábado contaremos con la
presencia de una gran cantidad de cronistas de la región de Los Altos y de
varias personas que conocen bastante de la genealogía e historia de nuestra
región de Los Altos.

El temario de la conferencia aun esta en desarrollo, pero les aseguro que
será del interés de todos y que no se decepcionarán, ya que contaremos con
la presencia del gran historiador Mariano Gonzalez Leal, entre otros grandes
invitados. Así que comiencen a hacer planes para venir a la conferencia y
reunión de Nuestros Ranchos en Valle de Guadalupe. La fecha exacta aun está
por confirmar, dependiendo del día que escoja Don Mariano Gonzalez Leal, y
la cooperación para los que quieran asistir a la comida y reunión particular
con Don Mariano Gonzalez Leal, cronistas de la región e invitados
especiales, donde habrá oportunidad de adquirir sus libros y que los
autografíen los autores, será mínima.

Para los que quieran recorrer los pueblos mencionados, si la cantidad de
personas es considerable, se buscará rentar un camión especial para el
traslado y solo se pedirá que entre todos cooperemos para cubrir el costo
del mismo. Así que entre más personas vayamos, menor será el costo del
viaje.

Para los que se preguntan acerca del hospedaje, aquí en Valle de Guadalupe
hay un hotel pequeño y céntrico que cuenta con 6 habitaciones, pero en
Tepatitlán pueden encontrar una buena cantidad de hoteles muy buenos y a tan
solo 25 km de Valle de Guadalupe.

Se les pide a las personas que deseen asistir al recorrido o a la comida
particular que me lo hagan saber para reservarles un lugar, ya que hay cupo
limitado. Para la conferencia, el costo será gratuito y el público en
general será invitado a asisitir.

Cualquier pregunta, por favor háganmela saber.

Gracias,

Ricardo Rodriguez

Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco

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Does anybody have any information on the line of Mariano Espara and Josefa Sanchez marriage of August 12,1875 in noria de angeles,Zacatecas........

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Hello there,
I personally have not yet connected anyone from the many last names on my tree to Coahuila or Nuevo Leon.  About 90% of my family stayed in the 3 states, the other 10% went on to California and Chihuahua.
When you least expect it, you will find the link... don't give up :-)
For me, it usually happens in the middle of the night when I can't sleep and decide to try one more time.
Saludos,
Sandra Gómez Mendoza
San Antonio, TX

Don't know if you had this already...but might this be the same Florencio
Luna and Albina Magallanez from your family?

ALVINA MAGALLANES _Pedigree_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/pedigree_view.asp?recid=1002…
=1) Female _Family_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/family_group_record.asp?fami…
=1)
____________________________________
Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
____________________________________
Marriages: Spouse: _FLORENTINO LUNA_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=…)
_Family_ (http://www.familys
earch.org/Eng/Search/igi/family_group_record.asp?familyid=271306860&indi_id=100228114765&lds=1&region=10&frompage=1)
Marriage: 27 APR 1881 Moyahua, Zacatecas, Mexico
____________________________________
Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

____________________________________
Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type:
Printout Call No.: Type: _M643958_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/search_igi.asp?batch_number=…) 1825 - 1860 _1162574_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.as…
ilmhitlist&columns=*,180,0&filmno=1162574) Film NONE _M643958_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/search_igi.asp?batch_number=…
ion=10) 1870 - 1891 _1162574_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.as…
74) Film NONE

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Hello to all,

For those of us who have the Moctezuma line. Interesting note on the news this past week...

Enjoy! This is neat!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25100456/

Can't wait to visit.

Saludos!

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joseph

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Thanks to member Sally who provided more ancestors for me to research, I was able to find Nicolasa de la Torre, father Roque de la Torre, mother Juana de la Torre, christening date 24 March 1694. FHL film 439844 dates 1685-1716 recorded in Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico, two generations away from what Sally has called The Tronco of my Gonzales line. Thanks Sally and to Nuestros Ranchos group. Anita

Hola a todos!

Estoy ayudando a una amiga con su genealogia del apellido Rizo en Jalisco. Su abuelo le comenta que viene de Italianos :-)

Alguien sabe el origen del apellido Rizo en Jalisco?

Gracias!

*******************************

Hello all!

I'm helping a friend of mine with the root the Rizo last name in Jalisco. Her grandfather told her that it was Italian :-)

Any thoughts on the origin of the Rizo last name in Jalisco?

Thanks!

Hello,
This is my first time here. My name is Del.
I am very glad to be a member of this group.
The names that I am researching are: Paula RAMOS born 1-29-1876 in AGUASCALIENTES, married Guadalupe MARTINEZ born 1873 possibly ZACATECAS, Mexico. They married in 1899 possibly ZAC. ZAC., Mexico. They lived in these areas; JALISCO, AGUASCALIENTED, ZACATECAS, CALIFORNIA.
Other surnames reseaching: MASCORRO maiden name of Paula's mother, REYES, VASQUEZ, RODRIGUEZ all related somehow.
Any information please email me at deljmar99@webtv.net Gracias!

Joseph Puentes,
I noticed that these films are shown in the FILMS section here at NuestrosRanchos and I was wondering if and when they would be available for us to research them here.

Burials 1785-1818 443797 Joseph Puentes
Burials 1832-1849 443793 Joseph Puentes
Death 1718-1801 443791 Joseph Puentes; Arturo Ramos
Death 1801-1832 443792 Joseph Puentes

Here is an inexpensive way to view this book at your local family history center. Fiche cost 15 cents per page and these two volumes are on 15 individual fiche sheets. I haven't read it but it looks like it goes into some detail about Zacatecas history. If you are interested order a copy for your family history center:

Title
Bosquejo histórico de Zacatecas

Stmnt.Resp.
por Elías Amador

Authors
Amador, Elías (Main Author)

Notes
Microfiche del original impreso en Zacatecas : Pedroza, 1892?
La Biblioteca tiene solamente los primeros dos tomos, fotocopiados en un volume.
The Library has only the first two volumes, filmed as one volume.
Contenido: t. 1. Desde los tiempos remotos hasta el año de 1820 -- t. 2. Desde el año de 1820 al de 1857.
History of Zacatecas, Mexico.

Subjects
México, Zacatecas - History

Format
Manuscript (On Fiche)

Language
Spanish

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1992

Physical
15 hojas de microfiche ; 105 mm.

Subject Class
972.43 H2

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Bosquejo Histórico de Zacatecas - FHL INTL Fiche [ 6030603 ]

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.

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Hola queridos "Rancheros" :-)

Se puede buscar en el libro de la Sagrada Mitra solo con nombres? O se necesitan las fechas? Necesito ayuda con estos matrimonios que seguramente fueron a finales de 1700's o a principios de 1800's:

Help :-)

Gracias!!

**********************************************

Can you research in the Sagrada Mitra book using names only? Or do you need dates? I need help with the following marriages that surely took place at the end of the 1700's or at the beginning of the 1800's.

Help :-)

Thanks!!

1)
Bruno Gonzalez
Maria Prudencia Castaneda

2)
Jose Serapio Hernandez
Casimira Orozco (or Muñoz)

3)
Juan Maria Benites
Maria Antonia Ortega

4)
Juan Manuel Navarro
Maria Vasquez

5)
15 feb 1722, Nochistlan, Zac
Nicolas de Loza
Maria de Mercado

6)
22 Oct 1747, Nochistlan, Zac
Nicolas de Loza
Maria Gertrudis Rodriguez

7)
Luis Castaneda
Maria Benita Ochoa

8)
Juchipila, Zac
Calisto Samaniego
Lina Salazar

9)
Jose Rito Rodriguez
Manuela Banuelos

10)
Sixto Enriquez
Manuela Reynoso

11)
Manuel Rubalcaba
Francisca Obiedo

I've done no research in this area and was wondering if possibly someone
in the group might recognize some of these names:

Descendants of Estanislado Marquez

Generation No. 1

1. ESTANISLADO1 MARQUEZ died Bet. 1960 - 1964 in Santa Paula, CA. He
married TEODORA JIMENEZ, daughter of SRA. MARQUEZ. She was born in
maybe El Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco, Mexico, and died January 1945 in
Santa Paula, CA.

Child of ESTANISLADO MARQUEZ and TEODORA JIMENEZ is:
i. MATEO2 MARQUEZ, b. 21 September 1898, Ajiji, Jalisco, Mexico;
d. 15 November 1966, Santa Paula, CA; m. JUANA GARCIA; b. 22 October
1905, Jaen, Jaen, Spain; d. 27 December 1997, Santa Paula, CA.

thanks for any ideas about this genealogy,

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On Friday, I received the DNA results submitted by my brother to National Geographic. I must admit, I'm a bit disappointed.

I have been following the extraordinary PBS/National Geographic documentary on the DNA research of Spencer Wells, his theory is the world has evolved out of Africa.

As per my report:
The results were Haplogroup R1b1c
The genetic markers that define your ancestral history reach back about 60,00 years of non-African men.

Then the trail ends in Western Europe. I suppose I was hoping the end of the trail would be more specific as Western Europe is such a large area. The report also states "Today, roughly 70 percent of the men in southern England belong to haplogroup R1b. In parts of Spain and Ireland, that number exceeds 90 percent.

I was planning on having my own DNA tested by National Geographic, but now I'm not so sure, if the results are going to be the same, out of Africa, then to Western Europe.

Yesterday, on the Semos Primos site, I read a fantastic story written by Larry Garza. I was intrigued by his findings and sent him an e-mail. Below is the response from Mr. Garza. I have checked out the site he used, and it appears to me more of what I'm looking to achieve.

Dear Helyn,
Thank you for your comments. We had comprehensive DNA testing done through DNA Consultants, Dr. Donald Yates. I chose them because they give a comprehensive analysis with wonderful historical explanation, from my research the best available. You can contact Dr. Donald Yates at www.dnaconsultants.com and look at the various testings they do. Tell him I sent you.
Larry Garza

Well, at least now I have another option.

Helyn
San Jose, CA

Our library has the Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara, antiguo Obispado de la Nueva
Galicia book by Montejano not available until August.

Could someone lookup the following marriage for me, they are my 6th great
grandparents?

Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

Luis Villasenor married Juana de Aguilar Solorzano

7 Sep 1692

**********
The family eventually moved to Cocula, Jalisco, MX. Their daughter married
into the Rueda family and my line continues from there

Thanks,
Gloria

Hola a todos:
A la persona que tenga axceso a la Sagrada Mitra de guadalajara y tenga la amavilidad de hacerme el valiosisimo favor de ver la partida de matrimonio entre Antonio Felis,(puede que este como Felix , Belis o Celis ),y Brigida Nuñes ,efectuado el 22 de Julio de 1848 en Mezquital del Oro Zac.Nesecito los nombres de los Padres y Abuelos de Antonio.Se lo agradecere eternamente.Ya que mande pedir el microfilm desde hace 2 meses y ahun no hay esperansas de obtenerlo,busque el libro en la biblioteca de la Universidad de esta localidad y no estara disponible hasta el 17 de Julio de este año.Por eso estoy pidiendo la colavoracion de todos.
Gracias.
Jose luis Felix
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I am new to the group although I have been doing research for many years. I have been successful with my mothers European ancestry search, but I had no idea how to begin research for my family in Mexico. ( I do not speak Spanish as my father believed we should only speak English)

My grandfather was Salvador Bernal born in Zaceteca Mexico in 1905. His mother (Antonia Cano b1881 in Mexico) brought him and his brother and sister to California, shortly after his birth. His father was Cresencio Bernal and there are many stories about him being a train robber. Antonia Cano's parents were Felipe Cano and Tirburcia Martinez. There is also references to the family having some French heritage through this line.
I do not have any other information on the family. I would appreciate any help as I have no idea where to start looking.

Chris

I want to find the escudo de armas that was granted to a Spanish ancestor by the King of Spain around 1580s. Can someone please help me find the appropriate archivo or whatever. Thanks. Marge V:)

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bible...simply gaps we don't understand....as in genealogy...only educated guesses when
one comes to a dead end of recorded history (and I do underscore HIStory).

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