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Hi Welester,

Unfortunately all of my Lunas are from the Tlaltenango region, you and I could be related, many of the Lunas from Tlaltenango relocated to other regions. if you discover that they are from that region prior to 1800's send another e-mail, I'll try to hekp you.

Anna A. Smith

----- Original Message ----
From: Lester Alvarado
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:20:44 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] de Luna

Hi there ,

I have de Luna in my line she was Maria Pasquala de Luna married to Juan de Alvarado thier son Jose Antonio Candelario Alvarado de Luna was my Great great great Grandfather , Candelario was born 10th of Feb.1792 in Saltillo , Coahuila and married Maria Quirina Saldivar Gomez in Villa de Sanitago , Nuevo Leon 26 of Oct 1844 . I don't have any info on Juan or Pasquala such as birth dates , baptisms or marriage dates . If you have any info on them I sure would appreciate it .

Thank you ,
Welester G. Alvarado

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Loulou

What were the population estimates for La Barca, Jalisco in the 1800's, or for the state of Jalisco. I am interested to know how the population explosion of the past 30 years has led to such a lot of different people from other parts of the country. If anybody has any information on Adeleida Lopez Camarena born in La Barca, Jalisco in 1856 please let me know.I also am lloking for the line that include Rosa Garcia and Juan Lopes.

Hello all,

A few weeks ago I posted this question but received no response. Anyone have any info on Maria Luisa Gonzales Hernandez from Corazon de Jesus, Tecolotlan?

Thanks!

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Hola a todos!

Hace unas semanas hice esta pregunta y sigo sin recibir respuesta. Alguien tiene alguna informacion sobre Maria Luisa Gonzales Hernandes de Corazon de Jesus, Tecolotlan?

Gracias!

Maria Luisa Gonzales Hernandes
Christened/Bautizada: 22 Jun 1851 Corazon de Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco

To all those interested in a book of marriage dispensations from
Guadalajara, there is another book called "Index to the Marriage
Investigations of the Diocese of Guadalajara, 1653 - 1750" by Raul Guerra,
Nadine Vazquez and Baldomera Vela Jr., Edinburg, Texas 1989, Library of
Congress catalog card number: 90-93092.

This book is also out of print. I believe it is written in English, but I
don't have a copy. Does anyone out there have one?

Maria

Due to the slow turn around time at Salt Lake for ordering microfilm. I have started to order the documents I need. It takes about 2 weeks to get the copies. I ordered 3 microfilmed rolls and now it's been over 2 months. They are running very far behind....I had heard about 6 months behind.
I first check familysearch.org and obtain the necessary information on the person I want the document on and use form: "Request for Photocopies-Census Records, Books, Microfilm, or Microfiche"

The form can be downloaded from: http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?cat…

The item # is: 31768000

Hope this information is helpful for those who are new or those like me who are inpatient. I still would like to see the film....but I get antsy.

Happy New Month

Rose

Why is this taking so long? I also am awaiting a Roll of Microfilm, and
it is so far 2 months... Thank you Rose for informing us of this option.
I also like looking at the WHOLE film.
Irma Gomez-Lucero
Northern Calif.
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Due to the slow turn around time at Salt Lake for ordering microfilm. I
have started to order the documents I need. It takes about 2 weeks to
get the copies. I ordered 3 microfilmed rolls and now it's been over 2
months. They are running very far behind....I had heard about 6 months
behind.
I first check familysearch.org and obtain the necessary information on
the person I want the document on and use form: "Request for
Photocopies-Census Records, Books, Microfilm, or Microfiche"

The form can be downloaded from:
http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?cata
logId=10151&storeId=10151&categoryId=13691&langId=-1&cg1=13679&cg2=13689
&cg3=&cg4=&cg5=

The item # is: 31768000

Hope this information is helpful for those who are new or those like me
who are inpatient. I still would like to see the film....but I get
antsy.

Happy New Month

Rose

Yes, people at my family history center have been waiting very long, months
at a time, for films to arrive. But, I hesitate ordering more, because the
last time I did so, they all arrived the same week! In April, I got one I
had ordered back in October, one from December, one from February, and one
just a week before that. Very unpredictable. Yet, I get impatient, too,
and did it again. I have five films I am waiting on now, two on back order
for the past month and a half.
I was told that Salt Lake is not making copies of the films like they were
before, so we are waiting on those copies that are in circulation to be
returned first before the next person can get it, like a public library
system. Still, I can't complain. I am very grateful for the family history
center being available to the public and I just love all the people there.
Someday, it will all be digitized, I have heard. So, in the mean time, I
use my waiting time getting caught up on other things like internet
research, compiling photographs, writing biographies, etc., things that I
don't have time for once the films arrive.
I thank-you, Rose, for letting us know about the other way of obtaining
copies of documents.

Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California

Hola a Todos compañeros del Foro:

Navegando por internet me encontre una pagina que
me parecio muy interesante sobre la historia del linaje
de los Mendoza, que creo llego a esta la "Nueva España"
y se diseminaron ramas por todo Mexico.

El enlace es el siguiente:

http://www.uam.es/personal_pdi/ciencias/depaz/mendoza/sigloxv.htm

--
Saludos desde Guadalajara:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez

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For Felipe and anyone else researching the very tangled web of the much intermarried MICHEL family, here are two more children of Don Pio MICHEL Avila and his wife doña Gabriela:

Rafael MICHEL born about 1855, I haven't found his baptism.
From #655614, Marriage Information, Autlan:
Rafael MICHEL, hijo legitimo de Don Pio MICHEL y Da. Gabriela BECERRA,
con Da. Josefa GONZALEZ, hl de Don Vicente GONZALEZ y Da. Juana MICHEL, ella difunta. In the IGI marriage for Rafael her name is written CONZALEZ.

Also - Maria MICHEL, born about 1861.
From #211994, Civil Marriages, Autlan, 14 May 1876
Zacarias SANTOS, no indigena, 18, soltero, labrador de Ahuacapan; hl de Jose SANTOS y Mauricia VIDRIO, ya finados. Con Da. María MICHEL, no indígena, 15, soltera, hl de Don Pio MICHEL y Gabriela BECERRA que viven.
TESTIGOS: Leocadio RAMIREZ, 39, talabartero [saddler or harness maker]
Ascención RUELAS, 25, zapatero
Porfirio MICHEL, 28, propietario
Felix LISOLA, 35, Jornalero

In 1873 Don Pio MICHEL's occupation was labrador. He was a witness to the second marriage of his cousin Ramon Mariano MICHEL Corona, 70, to Da. Leandra LOPEZ Gutierres, 71. Ramon Mariano's first wife was Da. Jesus ARIAS.

Hope this helps.

Gloria Delgado

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Due to family demands, I have not been as active as I intended to be, and have not been able to spend time at the NR website for a while. Last week I has some time and tried to log on and bring myself up-to-date, but could not get in. I've tried every possible password I could think of, but I must have used a very special one and now I can't remember it! I have sent off at least a couple of requests for help from the website, but have not gotten any response. If this is not the right place to try to get help, can someone out there let me know what I have to do to either get my password back or get a different one? Any help I can get will be deeply appreciated. MUCHAS GRACIAS.

Book Crónicas de León;
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Author: González-Leal, Mariano.
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establecimiento en la región hasta nuestros días /
Author: González-Leal, Mariano.
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There has been some discussion about this book in the past and though
those of you near one of these libraries might want to have a look:

Location Library Code
US,CA CALIFORNIA STATE LIBR-SUTRO LIBR SUTRO
US,CA UNIV OF CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY CUY
US,IA UNIV OF IOWA LIBR NUI
US,NJ PRINCETON UNIV PUL
Mexico EL COLEGIO DE MEXICO EL$
US,CA STANFORD UNIV LIBR STF
US,TX SAN ANTONIO PUB LIBR SAP
US,TX UNIV OF TEXAS, BROWNSVILLE TBS

Title: Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia :
estudios histórica, antropológico, genealógico y biográfico sobre la
población española de la zona oriental de la Nueva Galicia, desde su
establecimiento en la región hasta nuestros días /
Author(s): González-Leal, Mariano.
Publication: [Guanajuato, México] : Universidad de Guanajuato,
Centro de Investigaciones Humanísticas,
Year: 1983
Description: v. : geneal. tables ; 23 cm.
Language: Spanish
Contents: v. 2. Esquemas genealógicos: las familias genearcas.
Diccionario de familias: Aceves - Gómez-Hurtado de Mendoza.

SUBJECT(S)
Descriptor: Spaniards -- Mexico -- Nueva Galicia -- Genealogy.
Geographic: Nueva Galicia (Mexico) -- Genealogy.
Note(s): Includes indexes.
Class Descriptors: LC: F1296.9.S7
Responsibility: por Mariano González-Leal ; prólogo del Baron de
Covadonga.
Material Type: Biography (bio)
Document Type: Book
Entry: 19840809
Update: 20080526
Accession No: OCLC: 21658664
Database: WorldCat

I am.

I am researching San Juan de Ahorcados and the hacienda de La Grunidora. Have not had much luck in some respects.

Elvira
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Hello,

Is anyone doing any research in the Mazapil, Zacatecas area? Especially in the Estacion Camacho, Grunidora area.

Jonathan

Hello-

I am very excited to be part of the group and share my search with
others and hopefully help others in theirs.

I am researching my maternal line and the ancestor I am researching is:

Josepha Macias b. abt. 1820 and married 1847 to Jose Quirino Anaya in
La Encarnacion, Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco.

One of thier children was Maria Peregrina Anaya Macias b. 1854,
Jalisco, Tepatitlan de Moreles, Mexico

His second wife was named Francisca Macias b. 1837 La Encarnacion,
Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco.

I have lots of information on Francisca'a family and would be happy to
share it if anyone needs it.

Looking for any info on Josepha Macias.

Below are the additional names I am researching and care share information on:

Avellaneda, Garcia De Leon, Anaya Macias, Hermosillo, Gonzalez, Villansenor,

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16780

Dear Maureen:

Tank You for your interest in our family investigation.
I want very much the copy of marriage of Teodoro Gutierrez
with Petra Jauregui, and all data about your Family and Teodoro-Petra
Family you can send me.
I don know if you have a Presentation certificate too or the Marriage
Information, I wil be glad to recibe that information too.

I found the Marriage Information about Teodoro-Petra in The Family
Search Web site in the IGI, but I do not have been able to see it,
and yes, it is in Jalostotitlan, see my information, the Church or
"Parroquia" in Jalos is named "Nuestra Señora de la Suncion", is the
first and older churh in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

I do not know if you have the dead Certificate of Petra Jauregui too,
I have a approximate date, because the 2nd marriage of Teodoro
Gutierrez says that he was widower for 13 years in that date.

Please send me your e-mail and data, my e-mais is: vigotal@gmail.com

Greetings from Guadalajara, Jalisco:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez

Hola a todos, alguien me podría decir lo que significa la anotación de
“expuesto” que ponían en las fes de bautismo? Lo he encontrado en algunos
documentos de fines del siglo 17 a principios del 19. Gracias!

Hello all, can anyone tell me what the note “expuesto” (exposed) means in
the baptism records? I’ve recently found this word on some late 17th and
early 19th century records. Thanks!

Ricardo Rodriguez

Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco

Hi again Rick,

Just realized you are in El Valle -- so maybe email would be better - ha ha.
Hope to hear from you soon.

Marilyn :)

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If you want to share your DNA results and look for matches, you may publish them for free online in several databases. Here are a couple of examples:
For Y-DNA you may go to http://www.ysearch.org/
For mtDNA you may go to http://www.mitosearch.org/

Si quieren compartir sus resultados de ADN y buscar gente con coincidencias, pueden publicarlos gratuitamente en línea en diversas páginas. Estos son un par de ejemplos:
Para ADN de cromosoma Y: http://www.ysearch.org/
Para ADN mitocondrial: http://www.mitosearch.org/

VN

Thank-you for the information on the BYU Immigration Records site. I
checked it out, but did not have any luck with finding any records on my
ancestor, Pioquinta Gonzalez Figueroa.

Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California

This is a reminder to the SoCal members that our meeting is scheduled for this coming Saturday at 10:00 AM. Please make an effort to attend. It is a good opportunity to meet fellow members and exchange information.
Some of the items you might consider bringing to the meeting are: Notebook, Laptop computer, if you have one, memory stick, whatever books and/or notes you would like to share with other members, any other items you might feel are appropriate.

Here is the address:

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Phone: 951-304-3082
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If you are not familiar with the area, I suggest you go to Mapquest.com, type in the address and get a copy of the map.
GoogleEarth.com is another good place to look up the location.

If you have any questions between today and Saturday, please e-mail me directly: 1gnzlz@verizon.net.

If you get lost, give me a call.

Thank you.
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On May 17, 2008, at 7:24 PM, JUANITA DELGADO wrote:

> This is for experts on DNA out there:
>
> I just had my mtDNA done. If my daughter had hers done, would the
> results be exactly the same?
> If my "ancient" mother was a Native American, is there a chance
> that through all those hundreds of years there would have been a
> EUROPEAN mother somewhere along the line
> Juanita

Hi Juanita,
Yes, your daughter should have the same mtDNA as you, your mother,
grandmother, etc. all the way back to your "ancient" mother. MtDNA
is passed down from mother's to all their children. The daughters
then pass it down to their children. (Men do not pass down mtDNA)
There is the possibility of slight differences due to mutation and
heteroplasmy, but that is for another discussion.

As for a "European mother somewhere along the line," it depends on
what line you are referring to. If you are referring to your mtDNA
female line, it will be the same all along the line. Remember, your
mtDNA does NOT include any male Y-DNA or it's influences. Also, the
mtDNA tested for genealogical purposes is not all your DNA. The
parts normally tested for genetic genealogy are the Hypervariable
Regions, sometimes called the Control Region in scientific papers.
That region is much shorter, has no genes, and mutates more frequently.

If you are referring to the possibility of a "European mother"
somewhere in your father's line, it would not show up in his Y-DNA.
If your father's mother were European his mtDNA would show her
European mtDNA, since men have both Y-DNA and mtDNA. But only your
mother's mtDNA would be passed down to you, not your father's mtDNA
(and therefore not his mother's mtDNA).

If you had your mtDNA tested with FamilyTreeDNA, join a group that
matches your results. Also join the Newbie DNA list at DNA-
NEWBIE@yahoogroups.com. There are very knowledgeable people who will
answer your questions on this list.

Linda

https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html

joseph

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