Nuestros Ranchos Site

Hi,

I've taken the test and these are my pros and cons:

Pros
It's Free
I got 29 markers and you could get up to 40 something
Even though your haplotype is not published you can easily get it from the site itself by shuffling some numbers.

Cons
It takes forever to see your results published (in my case it took more than six months)
I have no results for some markers and there is no way to ask for them

Jorge Gomez

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De: victorianonavarro
Para: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Enviado: sábado, 17 de febrero, 2007 11:20:11
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] SMGF DNA

Hi,
I also sent them a sample for free DNA testing and am planning to send them more. I've heard that it usually takes them a very long time to post online your results for the free test, I don't know if the results for the paid test are faster.
For the paid test, they give you the results. For the free test they don't give you the results but they publish them online. The problem is that they don't exactly post your actual results, but a chart where they show which of your results match and don't match an standard they have. You can change the values of this standard on their webpage and figure out your results by trial and error, but you may need some patience.
Finally, as they mention in their website, they are not affiliated to any Church. However, in the release form you signed it says they may share all the information you send them (i.e., your family tree) with their sponsors, like the Sorenson family. And I can't help to wonder whether these third parties will or will not use this information for religious purposes within their faith.
VN

Hi, all. I don't know if this would interest anyone, but I sumbitted my DNA for the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Project and they sent me a code for discounted DNA Analysis through Relative Genetics (see below for details) for participating (open to friends and family upon participation). If you've been thinking of getting your DNA tested for genealogical purposes, then maybe this is worth a look-see. If anyone has heard of this lab, will you be so kind as to give us your input and thoughts on this "deal?" Thanks!

Cristina

adam@smgf.org wrote:
Subject: Thank You For Participating!
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:50:04 -0700
From:
To:

Dear Cristina Pedroza (Nee Avla Haro),

The Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation has received your participation kit and has submitted it for analysis. Thank you for adding your data to the world’s foremost collection of correlated genetic and genealogical information.

As a token of our appreciation we are enclosing a coupon to help you with your own genetic family research. This coupon may be used* to obtain discounted DNA Analysis through Relative Genetics. You may use your coupon code for either:
- A discounted 26 Marker Y-chromosome Paternal Line Analysis for $95 USD OR
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Project Assistant
Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation
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I came across this article this evening (as I was looking for something else) on the MexicoConnect site. It is brief, and includes a bibliography. It can be found at:
(note: I am putting URL twice - one is copy & paste - c&p)

http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/tonysarticles/tbdid0207.html

http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/tonysarticles/tbdid0207.html

Natalie

Hi, all. While attempting to obtain some oral history from my grandmother on my Ruiz and Sedano lines from Tlaltenango & Sedanos, Zacatecas, I found out that one of my Ruiz ancestors was born "in the year of the typhoid epidemic." Now, I imagine this was probably sometime after 1920, which is the approximate year of my great-great grandfather's, Felipe Ruiz Róbles, marriage to my great-grandmother. The reason I mention him is becuase he was one of those assigned to carry the catloads of typhoid victims to the "camposanto." My grandmother says that when the poor, homeless people who would go around asking for "un atolito," the cart carriers would say, "Atolito? ¡Cual! ¡Camposanto!" and then throw them in the cart and take them to the camposanto (Probably because they figured they were already carrying the disease.). Anyway, I know that is not relevant, but I thought it was an interesting anecdote. My real purpose for this post is to find out if anyone has come across any reference to this "year of the typhoid epidemic" that may help me to find the birth year for this ancestor and possible a lead to follow for my elusive paternal lines...

Thanks for reading this!

Cristina

(Espanol abajo)

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Hi Diane,

I've looked into the Ramón Godínez file (actually into both) and I haven't found a Solorio in them, I've just joined the group so there's a huge chance I didn't do it correctly so if you (or anyone else) could please direct me to them I'll be more than grateful.

Yours,

Jorge Gomez
Toluca, Mexico

P.S. English is not my mother tongue so I ask you please to forgive my spelling and grammar errors.

----- Mensaje original ----
De: patricia burton
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Enviado: viernes, 16 de febrero, 2007 0:16:42
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jorge Gomez Montenegro: Introduction, presentación..#2

To the Ranchos Group:

Although I have been doing research for many years, it
is hard for me to get my findings where I want them to
go. I think I sent this out right but if not, I am
hoping Joseph or Arturo will direct it to the right
place.

If you look in the Ramon GODINEZ file, you will be
able to see my latest contribution(s). Perhaps this
is the SOLORIO that Jorge GOMEZ Montenegro needs.

Sincerely,
Diane in San Diego

--- Joseph Puentes wrote:

As of late there have been a lot of messages to the group. Just as a
reminder. You can always manage your account by "logging in" and then to
"my account" and click on "edit" then to "my mailing lists" and then
change your email delivery from "all mail" to "digest" which will mean
that instead of getting many individual emails everyday you'll get one
large email with all that days activity within. If you really have to
you can also choose "no mail" which means you'll have to go to the site
periodically to catch up on what has been going on in the group. But I
would say that you shouldn't select "unsubscribe" for obvious reasons
unless you plan to leave the group.

thanks,

joseph

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http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

Hi - I have been trying to research the Gutierrez line in both Zacatecas and in Sierra Mojada Coahuila. I ordered some civil records for the area of Sierra Mojada in Coahuila hoping to find my grandather's civil record. I looked through the microfilm the other day and he did not appear in these records. His parents were from Zacatecas but in order for me to find out more about them, I have to start with my grandfather first. The problem is that I have a name of a church (not listed in LDS records) but not sure where this churches parish records would be located.
Sierra Mojada is bordered by Durango, Chihuahua, the U.S. Sierra Mojada was a district of Monclava at one time (I was told). Do I look for the archdiocese of Monclava for Sierra Mojada parish records? also -- On one of the civil microfilm records, there were many parish records of families who originated in Zacatecas. They must have come to Sierra Mojada starting in 1879 when silver and copper were discovered there. Thanks for any hints from anyone who may know about Coahuila and links to Zacatecas.
Yolanda

I had a few moments...I decided to upload some photos under the album
group...members...but I am not sure that I uploaded everything the right way...

I posted a family picture (my Tlaltenango descendants) , and pictures from
the Monterrey delegation regarding the dedication of the African-legacy team
that attended in Monterrey and some artists renditions of our Afro-Indi-Meztizo
inheritance.

Enjoy...
Esperanza...Chicagoland area

As I start planning the makeover of the Nuestros Ranchos website, I am hoping that in addition to updating some of the code and the aesthetics of the site, we will be able to improve the functionality of the site. If there is something particular that you would like improved upon, please let us know. We cannot guarantee that the change will be made but we will endeavor to take into account any and all suggestions.

Como estamos planificando una reconstruccion del sitio Nuestros Ranchos, espero que ademas de actualizar el codigo y la estetica del sitio, podamos mejorar el funcionamiento del sitio. Si hay algo en particular que cree que podriamos mejorar, por favor diganos. No podemos garantizar que hagamos el cambio que sugiere pero intentaremos tomar en cuenta todas las sugerencias que recibamos.

Cristina ,

My gggranfather Candelario married twice that I know of for sure and possible a third , how bout them apples !

Welester

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: mytmo@netnitco.net> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:50:14 -0800> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marriages with wide age range> > > Dear Cristina:> Do not think that a 15 year age gap is not possible. Many of the Alviso men I am researching married in their 20's, but then after their first wife passed away, would marry again in their 40's to women in their early 20's. It may have been your gg's second marriage and usually the second marriage document will list the first wife and how long ago she had passed. This is how I found one ancestor. I was looking at a microfilm for the marriage of a son and the father happened to get married again in the same year. It listed the father's first wife and when she had died, so I knew the approximate year of death for my ancestor. Neat hah! I tease my husband that he is carrying on a family tradition as there is a 12 year gap between us!> > Maureen Bejar> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuest
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Good Evening Arturo,
Thanks so much for the film numbers. I can't believe I missed them in the LDS catalog. My FHC is open tomorrow evening, so I'll order them right away. I'm afraid I don't have a scanner, but maybe the people at the FHC can upload it for me. Where do you want it uploaded to? I'm sure they will know how to accomplish this, but please let me know where. I'll follow as many leads as possible. Many thanks. Alice

--- arturo.ramos2@gmail.com wrote:

From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Santelices and Valderramas
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:46:16 -0800 (PST)

Alice:

Do you mind uploading a scan of the marriage document that you have from Panuco or at least transcribing it? Also, taking a lead from Daniel, if the registro de matrimonio does not list parents or place names, perhaps the informacion matrimonial does. Have you yet looked at this film?

Mexico, Zacatecas, Panuco Información matrimonial 1881-1882 VAULT INTL Film 1092826

What about this film?
Mexico, Zacatecas, Panuco, Matrimonios 1878-1889 FHL INTL Film 1082210

Arturo,

I sent this to your private e-mail. Did you not see it?

Thanks,

Emilie
----- Original Message -----
From: Emilie Garcia
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: Senores de Zacatecas

Hi, Arturo,

Could you look up Juan Pedro Espeldoy that is listed in your book by Frederique Langue?

Thanks,

Emilie

Arturo,
I've completed a PAF5 from the Family Search site. The film that contains the only documentation available is #1092766. What's the next step? Thanks for your help, Alice

--- arturo.ramos2@gmail.com wrote:

From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Santelices and Valderramas in Panuco
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:27:28 -0800 (PST)

Alice:

Do you think you can post an Ahnentafel chart of the research you have done already. I went into your file folder and cannot discern who is related to whom how...

I see that you have one date for a marriage in Panuco but I cannot estimate dates for other events because I cannot tell whether 1st generation is older or younger than 2nd generation, etc., i.e. is Jose Maria Santelices Francisco Santelices father or son or neither?

Have you tested the Haro male dna? Are you going to do this in the future?

Thanks,
--
Esther A. Herold

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>
> Well, now that I think about it, he may or may not have been married to my gg
> because he was about 15 yrs. her senior when they married. This epidemic
> could've occurred when he was a young man in the late 1800's. THe reason I
> think this is that one of his sisters, Emilia Ruiz R

This is to Juanita and anyone else who believes they can't learn to download and operate the free PAF Software.
Listen up.........if I can do it you can do it, for this 57 year old grandmother to do it, anyone can do it. First go to www.familysearch.org. On the top there will be a row of blue tabs and it says order/download products, click on that blue tab. Another screen comes up and in the middle of that page it will say software downloads/free, click on that. It will ask you what language you want and the english language is free as well as the multi-language. Those would be numbers 77062988-s english language or 77062000's multi-language. Once you've decided and clicked on your choice it will give you your system requirements and it will tell you how to proceed.

The software is very easy to operate and you can begin using it and typing in your information. You will say to yourself, why didn't I do this sooner it was so easy. This makes it easy to keep track of your data/history and share it with friends, family etc and for you to see your progress. It also encourages you to do lateral research because you have a place to put everyone. It's like running a home, once you have adequate storage you know where to find everything, a place for everything and everything in it's place.

Genealogy software works just like storage, it's storage for our ancestors, a place for everyone and everyone in their place, neatly availabe for us to find them and place them with their respective family members.

I hope this helps..........Alicia in San Jose, Calif

Arturo,

You are welcome, it is always my pleasure to help out and because I am self taught on the computer, most everything I have learned is by trial and error and believe me there has been much error but every mistake I make allows me to learn something new. If I didn't take the risk and try something, I would not learn something new.

I receive so much from the wonderful people in this group that feels like family that I can't help but give something back whenever I have the opportunity.

Isn't it amazing how each one of us came to do our research. We collectively could probably write a book on how to do research in Mexico and each of us could include our personal experience and a little about our journey, our musings, how we listen to our ancestors as they try and guide us. Just another one of my crazy dreams.

Alicia

----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:25:26 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thank You Alicia

Alicia:

Thank you for sharing your experience with genealogy software and more importantly your analogy of such software and storage in one's home. It is a very vivid and valid analogy.

Just to share another story, this is how I got started with genealogy. My father asked me to help him organize information that he had so he could create a chart of some sort for a family reunion... if I had only known what I was getting into when I volunteered for the task and downloaded PAF...

My only mistake was to start entering names as quickly as possible without entering appropriate source information and details as to conjectures I was making along the way when the source documents did not explicitly state a relationship... Now it has become a real headache to fix what could have been done right from the onset with very little additional efforts. So my advice to anyone starting out is to document everything... PAF and other software has places to put notes and sources and these should be used extensively. You will thank yourself a few years down the line, not to mention that generations after you will thank you profusely as they review your work.

Dear Grupo, You guys need to realize and appreciate how truly blessed you are! You have been able to make family connections and share information. Everyday I read every email, even the ones I struggle with in Spanish. Every week I go to my FHC and find absolutely nothing. If it weren't that the only documented family members are in Panuco, Zacatecas, I'd think I'm in the wrong group! I need to share my experience, because I don't want the group to think that I don't care to share or don't work on my genealogy. It's just not happening. If there are any Santelices, Valerramas, Candelas, or Onates from the 19th to 20th century that I could connect with; I'd love to hear from you. Take care and continued success. Alice
-- missjuanni13@yahoo.com wrote:

From: juanita delgado
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Delgados of Pinos, Zacatecas
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:33:24 -0800 (PST)

JOSIE, MI PRIMA,

SOMETIMES I THINK I TALK TOO MUCH, BUT I SEE IT PAYS OFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!i IF I HADN'T DISCUSSED THAT PART WITH ARTURO, WE MIGHT NEVER HAVE KNOWN WE ARE ALSO RELATED IN ANOTHER WAY. SHUCKS!!!! LIKE MY SON SAYS(HE'S NOT TOO MUCH IN GENEALOGY), MOM, WE KNOW WE ARE ALL RELATED - LIKE THINK, ADAM AND EVE. LAUGH PLEASE. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE DOING YOUR OWN FINDINGS AND RESEARCH TO REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT IS GOING DOWN ON PAPER.
I HAVE HAD PEOPLE LOOK AT MY PAPERS AND THEY GO, WOW!, BUT IT CAN'T MEAN THE SAME TO THEM AS IT MEANS TO ME. I JUST LOVE, LOVE THESE PEOPLE I AM FINDING, FROM ONE OR TWO HUNDRED YEARS BACK. ACTUALLY, I WILL CONFESS THAT IT BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES WHEN I DISCOVER SOMEONE NEW, I WISH I KNEW MORE ABOUT THEM, AND HAVE PICTURES, ETC. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THEIR NAMES WILL HAVE TO SUFFICE, BUT I WRITE OUT WHAT I DO KNOW ABOUT THEM WITH SOMEWHAT A REVERENCE FOR THEM. MY ANCESTORS.

YES, WE'LL COMMUNITATE PRIVATELY.

TU PRIMA JUANITA

"Josie T. Trevino" wrote:
Juanita.......you and I connect on the Juan Bautista Sanchez line!!! He is
my direct ancestor also!!! I will write to you directly so we can compare
our info since it is in Tamaulipas, ok?

Your newest prima,

Josie in San Antonio

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of juanita
delgado
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:06 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Delgados of Pinos, Zacatecas

Arturo,

Yes, you are so right about researching horizontally. I think I sort of
avoided that since I was working on three different lineages, and I thought
I couldn't afford to spend mroe time on any new people. I thought, "Now,
I'll never be finished".

I did just a couple of times: I found JUAN JOSEPH DELGADO in the 1780
census of REVILLA, TAMAULIPAS, who's wife was MARIA MARGARITA SANCHEZ DIAZ.
When I looked up more on her I found her father was JUAN BAUTISTA SANCHEZ,
brother of TOMAS SANCHEZ, the founder of LAREDO, MEXICO.Those censuses sure
do tell a lot.

And I really went back to the ancestry of MARIA JOSEFA GUTIERREZ de LARA,
who
married my ggggg grpa, JOSEPH MARIA TAMAYO y LUNA. I ran into a sonewall
with his ancestry, but found lots on her.

You are so right.

Thanks for listening.

Juanita G. Delgado

Hi, Peggy Delgado

I tried getting to you through your e-mail, but couldn't.

I see where you have? birth records from a place in Zacatecas. Where were you able to obtain them? My interest is also in Zacatecas, in San Matias, Pinos, but looks like I have run into a stone wall. Haven't met anyone outhere with the same interest.

Do you have a genealogy on your DELGADOS?

THANKS!!!!!!

jUANITA g. DELGADO

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----- Original Message -----

From: "juanita delgado"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:12 PM

> Vi con interes de el libro, "Retonos de Espana en Nueva Galicia" que
> incluye los nombres
de las primeras familias.
Busco a familias DELGADO, CONTRERAS, MARTIN, MELCALIN. <

Hola Juanita G. Delgado,

en la lista de las 117 familias españolas que llegaron en 1550 a la región
de los Altos de Jalisco, se encuentran tres familias MARTIN sus apellidos
fueron cambiando de generación en generación, por lo que en el libro están
ordenados en dos columnas la primer columna es la forma en que han
evolucionado hasta nuestros días y la llaman "uso actual" y la segunda
columna son los apellidos que tenían las familias cuando colonizaron la
región y la llaman "uso original".

uso original
MARTIN DEL CAMPO
MARTIN-GALLARDO
MARTIN DE SOTOMAYOR

Uso Actual:
MARTIN
(de Teocaltiche, Aguascalientes y algunos de Tepatitlán)
decendientes de:
MARTIN DE SOTOMAYOR

Uso Actual:
MARTIN
(del resto de la región)
decendientes de:
MARTIN DEL CAMPO

Aparentemente no se ha encontrado decendencia de los MARTIN-GALLARDO.
Los otros apellidos de tu interes no aparecen en esa lista.

Saludos,
Bertha

Like many of you I wish I had known back then what I know now abt saving and citing records.. I am learning from my mistakes and only making new mistakes!

My husband had repeatedly told me to back my files up in a place other than my laptop but I didn't listen so when I turned off my virus scanner and got a worm that wiped out everthing I had entered in the last 6 months I was very depressed.. I had my records from previously backing up 6 months before on a different computer. I lost photo's that I'd taken 2 years collecting from relatives on visits to California and I lost almost 5,000 names. Luckily I did still have the film records so it's been a matter of re-entering them for the past 6 months, a very hard task since I'm not sure what I entered during that time making going over the film notes one by one..

I'm trying to focus on Jerez Zacatecas but the ancestors from Zapotlan El Grande and Tamazula Jalisco keep pulling me in that direction, in fact that's where I started my research on my mothers family. I"m finding so many errors I guess I was meant to go back and clean up the records, add citations and connect lines I didn't realize were related..

I hope sharing my mistakes and experiences will make some of the new members aware of some of the pitfalls of reclaming the ancestors..

Linda in Everett

As I went through a few days of emails I noticed questions about the Inquistion I might have some leads for you.
On Sephardic . com the man who hosts the site has cumulated huge book of persons, He used to be very good about e-mailing names in certain locals if he found them in his research. Their are also lists of surnames and how many times in history and it is a good spring board.

Cecil roth author historian Of sephardic/conversos

Bancroft library isn't the only one who carries Bancroft Most local univerities and bigger colleges have vols on there shelves I can't stress enough check your local connections before you spend $$$ to work with the Bancroft.

For those members in New mexico check Zimmerman at UNM

Good hunting
mari

When was this place established in Jalisco? On IGI I found a possible match in my ancestry.

Ancelmo Rubio Hernandez
Parents: Juan Manuel Rubio & Juliana Hernandez
Wife: Guadalupe Diaz Gutierrez
Parents: Josse Diaz & Gertrudis Gutierrez
Marriage: 29 May 1805
Place: Tepititlan de Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico

Any help with this? Will be appreciated.

HELLO, THERE,

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF MEXICAN PARISH RECORDS ARE ACCESSABLE THROUGH THE BANCROFT LIBRARY?

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!

JUANITA G. DELGADO

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Hello, I was hoping if you, when you have time if you could look up some things for me on one of the calvillo films you have on infinite loan.

Eugenio Camino & Dolores Martinez
11 Jul 1849
Calvillo, Ags.

Romauldo Lizalde & Mariana Esparza
8 Oct 1870
Calvillo, Ags.

Mateo Velasco & Juana Garcia
3 Feb 1869
Calvillo, Ags.

Thanks, David I hope you can help a bit. If you ever need help you can contact me.