I found my 4th great grandfather two days ago.
Ramon Elizalde
Married 1824
in Calvillo, Ags. Mexico
Born abt. 1804
Can anyone help me? Any help is appreciated. (Well If I order the film I will get his parents which would be abt 1770?
Previamente Arturo explico, que es imperativo que cada genealogia
presentada a "NuestroRanchos" por cada miembro debe de cumplir
precisamente con el "standard". Esto es necesario porque algunas
genealogias sometidas son confusas, porque el modelo standard no se
empleo, y por ello son dificiles de comprender y complicaran su trabajo.
Siendo nuevo al grupo y si recientemente empezo su investigacion, le
rogamos que utilize uno de los programas de computacion, los cuales
organizaran sus datos segun el modelo standard de la genealogia. Uno de
estos programs es gratuito, se llama "PAF". Es producido y disponible en
el internet:
www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/SimplePAFRegistration/asp
Al pulsar en este sitio, usted bajara a su computadora una copia
gratuita, y en ella apunte sus datos acumulados - este programa
facilitara su investigacion. Cuando tenga sus datos en PAF con nuestra
ayuda, actualizaremos su genealogia en nuestro sitio.
*/Joseph Puentes /* wrote:
As Arturo has already mentioned there is a great need to standardize
the submissions from the newest group members. If you go to these
new submissions within their folders sometimes it is very difficult
to understand who is who because of the way the information is entered.
If you are a new member and just started your research you need to
start working toward standardizing your information within a
genealogy program. One very good and FREE option is PAF.
Go to the www.familysearch.org site
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/Welcome/simplePAFRegistration.asp)
and download a free copy of PAF and start entering in your data. PAF
will help you be more organized and later we can then resubmit your
PAF assisted file.
As Arturo has already mentioned there is a great need to standardize the
submissions from the newest group members. If you go to these new
submissions within their folders sometimes it is very difficult to
understand who is who because of the way the information is entered.
If you are a new member and just started your research you need to start
working toward standardizing your information within a genealogy
program. One very good and FREE option is PAF.
Go to the www.familysearch.org site
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/Welcome/simplePAFRegistration.asp)
and download a free copy of PAF and start entering in your data. PAF
will help you be more organized and later we can then resubmit your PAF
assisted file.
thanks,
joseph
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Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
First of all let me apologize for writing in English. I do not speak
Spanish. I also do not know what you wrote to Nuestros Ranchos, but
the names are familiar.
My father was Jose Ramon Romero de la Torre, son of Castulo Romero
and Sofia de la Torre. He was born in Tepatitlan de Morelos in 1907.
Meliton Gonzalez and Maria Navarro had a daughter named Maria
Gonzalez who married Miguel Barba. Miguel Barba's parents were Jose
Wenceslas Barba and Maria Mersedes (Brigida) Jimenez. Miguel Barba's
sister, Maria Encarnacion Barba married Jose Romero who is brother to
my grandfather, Castulo Romero. Castulo and Jose are the sons of
Manuel Romero and Marcelina de la Torre.
Maria Refugio de la Torre married Jose Jesus Navarro and have
children named Fernando and Maria. Fernando married Maria Luisa
Romero, my grandfather Castulo Romero's sister.
Gil Navarro was mentioned in the marriage registration of Manuel
Romero and Marcelina de la Torre. I haven't been able to read
everyone's name because I have a poor copy and it is hard to read.
It looks like our families connect. Do you know anything about the
de la Torre and Romero families? Are we cousins? I have gotten most
of my information through the microfisch copies of the Baptismos of
Tepatitlan in Salt Lake City.
I have posted my gedcom at nuestrosranchos. The entry for Manuel
Romero has an incorrect birth date. His parents were Serapio Romero
and Petra Pena. I will be sending a corrected gedcom to nuestros
soon. I just deciphered Manuel's parents names from his marriage
registration and am trying to find more information about Serapio and
Petra.
I am very excited to finally find a connection through Ranchos. I
hope we can help each other out.
Your cousin (I think)
Linda Romero
romero89@earthlink.net
> Researching: Romero, Hallstead/Halstead, Davis, Hamm, Capwell,
> Buell, Beltz, Chandler, Burgess, Hitchcock, de la Torre, Hotchkiss,
> Moore, Nichol/Nichols, Phelps, Scott, Sherwood, Trowbridge, Barba,
> Brewster, Fisher, Foulkes
>
>
Can't vouch for the individuals in this club as I've never met them.
Just FYI:
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Camión para deportistas
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:24:59 -0600
From: Municipio de Colotlan
To: josecolotlan@gmail.com
CAMION DONADO POR EL CLUB COLOTLENSE DE CHICAGO
El pasado fin de semana llegó a Colotlán el camión donado por el club de
colotlenses radicados en la ciudad de Chicago Illinois que ayudará al
transporte de deportistas y grupos artísticos del Gobierno Municipal de
Colotlán.
Los paisanos que integran este club hicieron esta importante donativo con la
firme convicción de apoyar al municipio mediante elementos básicos para el
desarrollo del mismo, anteriormente el club colotlense de Lafayette, Indiana
hizo entrega de una ambulancia para la comunidad de Dolores con el mismo
fin, entre otros apoyos que se han hecho por parte de los paisanos.
José Luis Saldaña, miembro de la mesa directiva del club colotlense en
Chicago y el Presidente Municipal, Enrique Álvarez de la Torre, al igual que
el Secretario General del Gobierno Municipal, Mario Duran, lograron que el
proceso de importación se llevara a cabo de manera correcta y en corto
tiempo.
El camión marca ?Internacional? modelo 95, de característica ?escolar?
cuenta con una rampa especial para discapacitados y cupo para 18 personas,
el cual se encuentra en buenas condiciones tanto en su motor como en la
carrocería e interiores según el diagnóstico que se le realizó a la unidad
por parte de los ahora responsables de su cuidado.
Los paisanos que estuvieron haciendo entrega de la documentación del camión
a las autoridades municipales, adelantaron que en pocas semanas estarán de
regreso con otro camión de características similares para la escuela de
educación especial.
?HACEMOS LATENTE NUESTRO AGRADECIMIENTO A LA GENTE RADICADA EN LA UNIÓN
AMERICANA POR SU AYUDA EN LA DENACIÓN DE ESTA UNIDAD DE TRANSPORTE EN
BENEFICIO DE LOS DEPORTISTAS Y GRUPOS ARTISITICOS DE COLOTLAN?
comunicacionsocial@colotlan.gob.mx
Calle Hidalgo No. 33, Colonia Centro, Colotlán, Jalisco. C.P. 46200
Tel. (499) 992 0209 / 992 0356 Fax (499) 992 0041
[Se han eliminado los trozos de este mensaje que no contenían texto]
Enlaces a Yahoo! Grupos
<*> Para visitar tu grupo en la web, ve a:
http://mx.groups.yahoo.com/group/colotlense/
<*> La configuración de tu correo:
Mensajes individuales | Tradicional
<*> Para modificar la configuración desde la Web, visita:
http://mx.groups.yahoo.com/group/colotlense/join
(ID de Yahoo! obligatoria)
<*> Para modificar la configuración mediante el correo:
mailto:colotlense-digest@yahoogrupos.com.mx
mailto:colotlense-fullfeatured@yahoogrupos.com.mx
<*> Para cancelar tu suscripción en este grupo, envía
un mensaje en blanco a:
colotlense-unsubscribe@yahoogrupos.com.mx
<*> El uso que hagas de Yahoo! Grupos está sujeto a
las Condiciones del servicio de Yahoo!:
http://mx.yahoo.com/docs/info/utos.html
Wow everyone should have a look at the files and members genealogies
Arturo has put a lot of work into making that easier for people to find
each other. It is now alphabitized and so nice looking.
thanks Arturo,
joseph
===================
Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
(Espanol sigue abajo)
Our membership has grown substantially over the last year. We now have over 150 members, and due to Joseph's diligence, we now have genealogies from every member. This made the Members' Genealogy folder listing a bit long and difficult to use so we have decided to split it up into multiple pages and add alphabetical markers on each of the pages.
There are now three links from the Files page to member genealogies, one for A-G, another for G-M and another for M-Z. Please let us know if you have any problems using the new lists.
==ESPANOL==
Nuestra membresia ha crecido bastante durante el ultimo ano. Actualmente tenemos mas de 150 miembros y gracias a la diligencia de Joseph, ahora tenemos genealogias de cada miembro. Esto ha causado que el listado de carpetas de Genealogias de Miembros sea demasiado largo y dificil de usar asi que decidimos repartirlo entre varias paginas y anadir marcadores alphabeticos a cada una de las paginas.
Ahora hay tres vinculos desde la pagina principal de archivos, uno para A a G, otro para G a M y otro para M a Z. Por favor dejenos saber si tiene algun problema con las nuevas listas de carpetas.
Hello, I want to let everyone one I've changed my email address
Hello! I added a folder in member´s genealogy section. Is a piece or Barba surname from Jalostotitlan, Jal.
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Ando buscando conectar con parientes mios por medio de los apellidos Castellanos, Barba, Diaz y Nario
I need a favor from all of you. Think of one organization interested in
Texas or Latin American History and tell them about this new conference
that just went live on the http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com podcast
project. The quality of the presentations are of the highest caliber:
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com/podcast/TejanoLeadershipConference.html
*Tejano Leadership in Mexican
and Revolutionary Texas*
*A Symposium - October 14, 2006*
* 1) "Erasmo Seguín
"*
* 4) "Carlos de la Garza
"*
* 7) "José Francisco Ruiz
"*
*10) "Fr. Refugio de la Garza
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* 2) "Juan Martín Veramendi
"*
* 5) "Ramón Músquiz
"*
* 8) "Rafael Manchola
"*
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"*
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"*
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thanks,
joseph
===================
Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
personally respond to messages sent to this address.
============================================================
The following is a message from Joseph Puentes:
hi John,
I'm guessing that the name was originally Ojo de Agua de Rosales. Here it is on this map. I would place by place do a place search on the www.familysearch.org site and see which closest location was big enough to support a church.
joseph
Here is the link to your map:
http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?tpid=1&eapi=0&qscr=mmvw&msds=EX01D…
If clicking the URL above to view the map doesn't work,
simply copy and paste it into your Web browser -- make
sure the entire URL appears in your browser's address line.
Expedia.com
http://www.expedia.com
Book the right flight
http://www.expedia.com/pubspec/scripts/eap.asp?EAPID=0-1&GOTO=FLIGHTWIZ…
Reserve the perfect room
http://www.expedia.com/pubspec/scripts/eap.asp?EAPID=0-1&GOTO=HOTWIZ&rf…
Rent the right car
http://www.expedia.com/pubspec/scripts/eap.asp?EAPID=0-1&GOTO=CARWIZD&r…
Cristina do you have a connection in Calvillo for your Avila line? Who is your earliest and latest Avila?
Who do the Velascos descend from in Aguascalientes? Who was the first in the area? After studying about the conquistadores correct if I'm wrong but I think they were all related since they had the same father or grandfather? Can anyone help me with the Velascos.
A small group of Nuestros Ranchos members, residing in Northern California and the Bay Area, meet quarterly to discuss genealogy research. For our last meeting we had a tour of the Bancroft Library led by the Curator of the Western Americana Collection. We normally rotate the location of the meetings.
Our next meeting is scheduled for March 17th, from 10:30 am to 1:30 pm. The location will be the Raley's Event Center in Elk Grove. All Nuestros Ranchos members are welcome to join us. If you are interested in attending and would like more information, please contact me.
Maria Cortez
My Velasco lines that I've traced are Eustacia Velasco born abt. 1830 in Calvillo, Ags. and my other Velasco line is Jose Jesus Velasco born abt. 1820 also in Calvillo.I've found the marriage for Jose Jesus. On IGI, but need to order the film to find his parents.
Husband: Jose Jesus Velasco
Wife: Bruna Rodriguez
Marriage: 13 May 1835
Place: San Jose, Calvillo, Aguascalientes, Mexico
One son that I know of:
Name: Mateo Velasco Rodriguez
Born: October 1847
Place: Calvillo, Ags., Mex
Father:Jose Jesus Velasco
Mother:Bruna Rodriguez
Died: 13 Apr 1941
Place: Hacienda de los Caminos de Nuestra Senora de La Luz (A.K.A. "Hacienda de La Luz")
My 3rd Great Grandfather founded the Hacienda de los Caminos
Guess what was his surname? Camino HaHa (Mariano Camino Martinez) B. Oct 1850 in Calvillo, Ags.
Any help is appreciated. I will order 5 Marriages films for Calvillo at the end of Feb.
1782-1803 1804-1815 1816-1851 1852-1874 1875-1900
Enrique,
I checked the site and under Regidor/Parque y Mercado you will find Ingeniero Hector Duran Avelar, he's my first cousin. His mom and my dad (deceased) were brother and sister. My aunt lives in San Jose 75% of the time and in Nochistlan the rest of the time.
Thanks for posting this, maybe someday I will get the opportunity to be there for this festival.
Alicia
----- Original Message ----
From: enrique legaspi
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2007 5:09:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Fiesta del 20 de Enero - Papaqui's
http://nochistlan.gob.mx/20enero.html
I begin to write a summary of the the San Sebastian Feast, but my attempts to describe it could not do it justice to the essence of the feast. Instead, I suggest you go to the link above which describes in Spanish the Feast, its origin and the devotion of the people in Nochistlan.
On nuestros ranchos site I posted some photos I took of the feast.
enjoy!
Enrique
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Arturo,
Thank you so much. Agustina Santelices was my grandmother, and this incident is indicative of the elusiveness I've encountered tracing her family. It's interesting that this unknown procurador Santelices and Agustina's father, Francisco Santelices's Panuco marriage are the only Santelices mentioned in relation to Zacatecas. Most Santelices are either from DF or Puebla. A handful are found in GTO and Queretero. Would this procurador have been living in Zacatecas or been making his recommendation from DF? Your knowledge and opinios are greatly appreciated. Again, Arturo, thank you so much for all that you do. Alice
--- arturo.ramos2@gmail.com wrote:
From: arturoramos
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Santelices in Zacatecas
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:52:18 -0800 (PST)
The only mention of the surname Santelices is of a procurador (attorney general) by that name (no first name given) recommending that a tribunal show leniancy to a group of miners... The source document is Archivo Historico del Palacio de la Mineria, Elecciones de 1792, decision del procurador, Mexico, 1 Dec 1792.
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14686
pulsen (click) para ir a Nochistlan.
enrique legaspi wrote:
http://nochistlan.gob.mx/20enero.html
I begin to write a summary of the the San Sebastian Feast, but my attempts to describe it could not do it justice to the essence of the feast. Instead, I suggest you go to the link above which describes in Spanish the Feast, its origin and the devotion of the people in Nochistlan.
On nuestros ranchos site I posted some photos I took of the feast.
enjoy!
Enrique
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: GEN-HISPANIC Digest, Vol 2, Issue 7
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:02:23 -0700
From: gen-hispanic-request@rootsweb.com
Reply-To: gen-hispanic@rootsweb.com
To: gen-hispanic@rootsweb.com
Today's Topics:
1. Warriors of God, The True Story of The Knights Templar (Al Sosa)
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Message: 1
Date: 3 Feb 2007 09:09:21 -0800
From: "Al Sosa"
Subject: Warriors of God, The True Story of The Knights Templar
To: gen-hispanic@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <1170522561.716632.27300@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Saludos a Todos,
I have posted a new article on my website about the Knights Templar.
I have tried to remain relatively unbiased about this very
controversial subject in order to better inform those that are new to
the subject. My aim is to encourage more research about the Templars
and the other Military orders among Hispanic Genealogy researchers.
Some of our ancestors were members of these orders and no genealogy is
complete without this information.
I would be honored if you would review my article and let me know what
you think. Comments both positive and negative are welcome.
Gracias a Todos,
Al Sosa
Al's Hispanic Genealogy Web Page (www.alsgenealogy.com)
Email: alsosa (at) alsgenealogy.com
Article: www.alsgenealogy.com/templar.htm
End of GEN-HISPANIC Digest, Vol 2, Issue 7
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Arturo,
I really hate to bother you again, but I'd really like to read the Los Senores list. After I follow your instructions to Daniel and click the nuestros ranchos user's guide, the same thing happens when I click the second volume of Los Senores. A small icon at the bottom left says it is downloading from site, but where is it? Nothing appears before or after the downloading asking whether I want to open, save, etc. Please, what am I doing wrong.. Thank you so much, Alice -- arturo.ramos2@gmail.com wrote:
From: arturoramos
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Accessing Senores de Zacatecas
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:52:45 -0800 (PST)
Daniel:
After logging in to Nuestros Ranchos, go to the link:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15662
Or go to Files - Books and Articles
You will see there are two files as attachments to that folder. The names are listed alphabetically with the first file A-L and the second L-Z.
You can rotate the document within Adobe. I suggest you save the file and then open it from your desktop as each one is 2MB...
If you are having trouble using the site, I suggest you download the Nuestros Ranchos User Guide which is available in the Files - References section.
Arturo, At the risk of sounding totally computer illiterate, how do I view the names? I've tried clicking on the volumes and it says downloading from nuestros...but I never see anything. What am I doing wrong? Sorry, and thanks so much, Alice
--- arturo.ramos2@gmail.com wrote:
From: arturoramos
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Camino in Zacatecas
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 12:24:38 -0800 (PST)
Daniel:
Please go in and check the document. That is why I put the name index in there so that members can check to see if there are any names relevant to them. If you find one I will be more than glad to look up the page that the index references.
Busco voluntarios para terminar el Guia de Usuario de Nuestros Ranchos (español sigue abajo)
Volunteers needed to finish Nuestros Ranchos User Guide
Thanks to the efforts of volunteers, we got the Nuestros Ranchos User Guide started and about halfway finished last summer. The project has been sitting gathering dust and I would like to get it completed as I think it will be very useful for the new members who are not familiar with all of the functions of the site. There is a Spanish and an English version. The outlines are finished, they just need to have meat put on the bones (along with some screen prints). Please let me know if you can help...
The missing sections are:
Section D.
7. Searching GEDCOM database
8. Using the Films database
Sección E. Account and File Maintenance
1. Updating your files (delete/reupload)
2. Updating your profile
3. Changing your password/username
4. Changing your mailing list subscriptions
You can find the document at:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14123
==ESPAÑOL==
Gracias a los esfuerzos de voluntarios, el verano pasado comenzamos y terminamos la mitad de un Guia de Usuario de Nuestros Ranchos. El proyecto quedo abandonado y me gustaría terminarlo porque creo que sera bastante útil para los nuevos miembros que no quedan familiarizados con las funciones del sitio Nuestros Ranchos. Existe una versión en español asi como una en ingles. Los esbozos quedan terminados y falta solamente añadir texto (y algunas imágenes). Por favor dejenme saber si pueden ayudar con este proyecto.
Las secciones que faltan son las siguientes:
Seccion D.
7. Búsquedas en la base de datos GEDCOM
8. Usar la base de datos de rollos de microfilmación
Sección E. Mantenimiento de cuenta y archivos
1. Actualizar sus archivos (borrar/montar nueva versión)
2. Actualizar su perfil
3. Cambiar su nombre de usuario o contraseña
4. Cambiar sus subscripciones de listas de correo-e
You can find the document at:
Does anyone have Lobato or Tafoya from Michoacan or Sombrete?