Nuestros Ranchos Site

    Within the last 2-3 months, someone posted a message which included the address of a Mexican governmental website that has online historical maps of various parts of Mexico.  I can't find that site, and, as I recall, when I did visit it, I couldn't find the maps I was looking for.  Specifically, I'm looking for the hacienda/rancho maps of northeast Jalisco near Encarnacion de Diaz, the ranchos southwest of Jerez, Zacatecas, and the rural areas around Durango, Durango.

Can someone please direct me in the right direction?
Thanks.Brenda

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I'm assuming there is a second sagrada mitra for Michoacan since this link only lists some of the towns and ranchos..https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-BB14-F?i=4&owc=3NRL-7M…. I have worked on some page by page without finding the towns I needed.

It does not include Zamora, Chilchota, Tangancicuaro, Tlazazalca and other towns that did exist.

Can anyone share with me the link to the rest of the marriage dispensations in Michoacan.

My maternal ancestors lived in Chilchota, Tangancicuaro, Angamacutiro and Zamora and I have marriage information, marriage, baptism and death but no marriage dispensations.
It is of particular interest to me since my MTDNA goes to Michoacan and I found a marriage information record that called for a dispensation and that record could take me back another generation.

Any help appreciated.
Erlinda Castanon-Long

Many of my husbands ancestors were born and most likely died in Calvillo. I doubt that I will be able to visit in my lifetime. Are there any records or information on all burials in the cemetery? Cemeteries entered into findagrave.com only have 1 entry per cemetery. I would love to add records to them so that others can find their ancestors as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hola Prim@s:

For those investigating DE URIBE, MARTIN DEL CAMPO, GARCIA DE ALBA families, hope you find this useful

Dispensa matrimonio Antonio Michel & Josefa Uribe / Ejutla

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-65S1-N9?i=834&wc=12512…

Cheers

Hi,

Can someone please help me identify the name of the Ranch where he passed? It's hard to read and I'm thinking Rancho Altamiraro or Atlamirano?

First page last record for Juan Hernandez.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FQ9G-66?i=156&cc=18745…

Thank you,

Esther

Buenos días,

Alguien tiene información sobre la familia Escoto? Mi Octabuela en mi línea materna directa y mi Octabuelo, su esposo, eran primos en tercer grado. Se casaron en Pátzcuaro, Michoacan, pero eran de La Barca, Jalisco.

María de la Concepción Escoto hija de Fabián Escoto (hijo de Joseph Escoto) y Magdalena Baldes.

Joseph Manuel Escoto, hijo de Marcos Escoto (hijo de Juan Escoto) y Maria Banegas.

En la dispenza (1746) dice que el tronco eran Ygnacio Escoto y Ynes Ramírez (padres de Juan y Joseph) pero no he encontrado casi nada sobre ellos.

Alguien me podría ayudar?

Voy a incluir el link a la dispenza y de la acta de matrimonio.

Gracias

Matrimonio
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-55JV-T?i=190&cc=1883388

Dispenza
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-BLDM?i=548&wc=3NYG-GP8…

Hello everyone

I came across this information on the Informacion matrimonial of Tomas Castañeda con Josefa Orta (3.grandparents) as they were related... the record I'm referring to is:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-K49X-5V?i=119&cc=18745…

Does this mean that there would have been a dispensa? or is the little piece of paper is the priest giving them the okay?

What are your thoughts?

Hi Everyone,

I hope I can get your opinion on the research I have done and have. I am not 100% sure or convinced the ancestors I have on my family tree are correct after my 2xGP (Buenaventura). I don’t want to waste my time searching if it not correct. I have been working on this for a year now but the reason I am not convince is because I cannot find the baptism registration on my 2x GF. I have searched different municipal church records page by page for it and can’t find it anywhere. Let me tell you why it’s so important.

My paternal grandfather Leon Hernandez Torres was only 6 months when his father was killed Dec 24th 1917 in Degollado, Jalisco, and the town was under siege by the bandit leader J. Ines Garcia Chavez and his men. His parents were not married, his mother abandoned my grandfather and he was raised by his paternal grandmother. Last record was 1930 census. His mother moved to either Yurecuaro or La Piedad, Michoacan. She worked at “una casa de citas” and my grandfather’s uncle went looking for her but refused to come back. I found records of her she died in Guadalajara in 1928 and she remarried. My grandfather lived a very sad life and it really hurt him that he didn’t have parents. He didn’t even know his mother’s last name. He was a very quiet man and I didn’t know him well.

*GF – Leon Hernandez Torres
Born: Jun 28, 1916, Degollado, Jalisco
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60017/MM9.3.1_2FTH-1-18570-13209-9…
Died: Jan 12, 2006, Degollado, Jalisco
*Parents: F: Ladislao Hernandez Santana, B: June 27 1889, Degollado, Jalisco D: Dec 24 1917.
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/61089/MM9.3.1_2FTH-1-18688-37970-7…
M: Pomposa (Rosa) Torres Paz B: ABT 1887 D: Jan 26 1928, Guadalajara, previously married to Juan Torres Aboites had one child together Domingo Dionicio Torres Torres.

Ladislao Hernandez parents:
Buenaventura Hernandez Martinez
B: About 1850 D: May 21 1907, Degollado, Jalisco – I found a baptism document in Hidalgo,MX for July 14 1850 with same parents names but I don’t think it’s him because on his marriage document it says he was originario y vecino de este lugar, which is Degollado.
Maria Rodriga Santana Muñoz B: abt 1852
Marriage: April 9 1885, on this document Buenaventura sister Sanjuana Hernandez and husband Modesto Lopez are the padrinos but the weird thing is on all of their (sanjuana and Modesto childrens baptismals the grandparents are Juan Hernandez and Ma. Guadalupe Martinez but on the marriage document her parents names are different.
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60017/MM9.3.1_2FTH-1-18570-15014-0…

Sanjuana Hernandez and Modesto Lopez marriage : I looked up his parents and they match their childrens baptism documents.
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60017/MM9.3.1_2FTH-1-18568-34943-6…

Buenaventura Hernandez parents, this is where I question the rest of my research, if it’s them or not. I found this marriage document going page by page.

Juan Hernandez & Ma. Guadalupe Martinez
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60017/MM9.3.1_2FTH-1-18453-7447-62…

Children for sure, Buenaventura Hernandez, the rest are questionable because they were on documents.
*Sanjuana Hernandez (can’t find baptism doc.),
*Alejandra Hernandez , baptismal below
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60017/MM9.3.1_2FTH-1-18454-51340-2…
* Modesto Hernandez (can’t find baptism doc.) was mention as a padrino with Ma. Guadalupe Martinez on Sanjuana’s child Cenobio Lopez Hernandez. Baptismal below
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/61089/MM9.3.1_2FTH-1-18688-187-40/…

I found a death doc. For a Ma. Guadalupe Martinez in Degollado but not sure if it is her, only reason I think it is because Modesto Hernandez is mention on there and the mothers first name matches the marriage doc. But not the last name.
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60464/004840189_00162/4452853?back…

Hello Prim@s,

I was curious to what this could mean on a baptism record for Maria Epifania Barvosa, the last one on the right, the priest scrached "solemnemente", and wrote "bajo condicion" instead

Here is the link

Thanks in advance for your opinions... happy day!

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-KCS6-9N?i=475&cc=18745…

Hola Prim@s

I was looking at the record below where a good samaritan offers information about a dispensation, where could I find the actual record? can someone guide me?

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L6R6-ZQS

There is a marriage dispensation requested on 25 Sept. 1739 in Zapotlan, Jalisco. Don Carlos Mungia from Tinquindin, living in Tamazula many years, over 43 years. He is a widower of Dona Maria Gertrudis Maciel buried in San Juan Periban. Married
Dona Theresa Coria y Peralta from Tamazula, she was 22 years old. Her parents are Don Antonio Coria and Dona Antonia de Villasenor. Marriage dispensation in 4th degree. Don Carlos's mother was Maria Mollinedo Villasenor.
This source came from #768760 Morelia, Michoacan dispensations 1739-1740 page 203 Familysearch online.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE :)

Thank you for the info

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> Hi Frank, I agree with Rick. Please provide more information on your
> findings: names, dates, locations and weblinks to the documents you have.
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> be specific, my Duran and Mu?oz lines are from Nochistlan, Zacatecas which
> is in the southern part of the state and only a few kilometers from
> Jalisco.
> My first documented Duran is Juan Ximon Duran Duque who married Regina de
> Aguayo around 1625. One of their daughters, Maria Duran Aguayo, married
> Nicolas Mu?oz de Leon, my first documented Mu?oz, in Nochistlan on May 6,
> 1640. All the Duran's I have researched have come from Juan Ximon and
> Regina.
> As for my the Mu?oz, I have confirmed 2 different Mu?oz lines in
> Nochistlan. My studies have found other Mu?oz lines in the area referred to
> as "Los Altos de Jalisco". If I remember correctly one of those Mu?oz lines
> was from Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco. Saludos, Juan Aguayo
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Frank Duran fedjr67@gmail.com
My research is starting by centering in the Cienega de Mata and Ojuelos de Jalisco area and probably Aguascalientes as well, looking for Durán and Muñoz surnames, I'm still new to this. Before finding "Nuestros Ranchos," I began my search after finding a written copy of my grandfather's birth record dated July 1877, at "Hacienda Cienega de Mata. Recently found grandfather's parents marriage cert. from May 1868, Ledesma Ojuelos de Jalisco on My Heritage site. Can't find much else in this areaof Jalisco thus far, don't want to encroach on anyone's research, but can anyone point me where/which direction to go from here?

Thanks, Frank

Hi everyone,

Does anyone have any information regarding the Hernandez family from Saucito [Jalisco] near San Miguel el Alto and Santa Maria del Valle? I have used the search, and found results from Steven Hernandez, but I'm not sure how active he is these days.

It seems that I am stuck trying to find records for my GGG-Grandfather. He was Leonardo Hernandes(z) married to Dionicia Rodrigues(z). My GG-Grandfather, Mateo (Leonardo's son) was born around 1831. So I can guess Leonardo was born in the late 1700's to early 1800's. During this time, was Leonardo more of a middle name? I've come across many Jose Leonardo records. The records he is listed in, list him as Leon/Leonardo, not Jose Leonardo, however.

If any one has information about this family, I would greatly appreciate any insight you can share.

Thank you,

Carlos

Hi all,

I found the word amosia on a death certificate. It states that he is survived by his esposa, followed by her name. Then, it states y su amosia followed by another woman's name. I tried to look up the definition. But was unsuccessful. Has anyone else encountered this word before? Also listed as a survivor is his daughter.

Hi, I’m going through baptism records, searching for ancestors and ran Into this one and have seen others with “expuesto en casa de..”, what does expuesto mean? I used translate but does not make sense. Does it mean the child was abandoned at this persons house or can this be his illegitimate child ? This one caught my attention because I have Hernandez Gamiño in my family tree.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FQ9S-6B?from=lynx1UIV7

Thank you
Esther

Hello and Thank you for accepting me into this group.

My name is Stephanie Sexton and I am originally from Albuquerque, New Mexico. I am currently researching my Dad's family surname of Angel de Ocana. The first person in this family appears in Santa Fe, New Mexico purchasing property in 1738, then, family in a Church Census in 1750 and marriages for five children in the same city. Information I can deduce from the above records: Francisco Xavier Angel, (born about 1704) spouse: Maria Ramirez (born 1704 to 1710). See this link for the Tree: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/SCSexton

It is thought the families of Angel de Ocana came with settlers from Mexico City or Zacatecas with or after the reentry into Santa Fe, New Mexico of the Spaniards and Diego de Vargas in 1693. I can find no records for parents for Francisco Xavier Angel. He may have had a brother or cousin who gave the name of Marcial Angel de Cana. Francisco Xavier was married to a Maria Ramirez. Santiago Ramirez gives himself as a brother in law to Francisco Xavier and was married to Maria Luisa (Petrona/Petra) Leyva. Marcial was married to Maria de la Candelaria Ramirez, a daughter of Santiago Ramirez about 1750 in Santa Fe, NM. I can find no records for parents for Ramirez or Leyva.

My thought is, perhaps, records or family genealogies for these families exist in Zacatecas or the surrounding areas. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you

Stephanie

Hi,

I am going through the baptism registrations looking for a great great mother and have noticed a circle with an X in the middle next to some of the names, does anyone know what it means?

Example on page 57, first name Maria Ygnacia:

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60017/MM9.3.1_2FTH-1-18454-49109-4…

Thank you,
Esther

Hi, Can someone please help me the spelling of the god Mother’s first and last name for Jph. Ricardo, right page first record.

I think it’s Fructuosa Girón?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FQ9W-ZV?from=lynx1UIV8…

Thank you,

Esther

Hello, my name is Cecilia Reyes and I am somewhat new to genealogy http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/Ceciarco99119911 I have been researching my dads side of the family which mostly came from Chalchihuites and Sombrerete Zac. I have also come across names of other locations (ranches) while researching. My grandfather's Ranch was called Chupaderos. He was also said to have the first car in his town.However I have hit a brick wall with locating information before 1700's. I have taken a DNA test on ancestry and 23 and me and am looking for more family to connect the dots.Thank you

I have been researching my Osuna family lines and could use some help. Is there anyone who has access to the book Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara by Luz Montejano Hilton and would be willing to look for some information for me?

I am looking for Osuna, Ossuna, de Osuna, Osuna y Cortez and also for Buenaventura Flores y Valdez and Rosalia Flores y Valdez.

Hi everyone,

I found my GG-Grand father's marriage record. I would greatly appreciate a second opinion trying to figure out the name of place he was from.

He is Mateo Hernandes married to Basilia Gonzales. I can make out the following:

"originario y vecino del Sauci-to(?)" The word is cut off, but finishes on the next line. I believe it says Saucito. I did find "El Saucito" near San Miguel el Alto, where the marriage took place.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-GRQB-1M?i=44&cc=1874591

I would love confirmation or a second opinion. If so, does anyone have anything regarding los Hernandes del Saucito?

I'm looking for any information on Nicolas Bambrila and Juana De Orosco their kids were born in Tamazula from what I read in their marriage records. I can't seem to find the parents of Nicolas and Juana or any other records for them. This is the marriage record for Donato Lopes de Lara Jr and Maria Getrudis Bambrila

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKZZ-DGXC

not sure of this Bambrila line is the same as Brambila decendents of Juan Antonio De La Brambila. Found some records as Bambrila other as Brambila for that same Family in Tamazula.

Any help would be greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

Aaron Torres

I'm thinking about purchasing this book and wondering if anyone has it and what you think of it?

Thank you,
Esther

Could someone please help me find where this Rancho is located according to the information I found. I've been searching for the Rancho de los Tellos for years and came across the following which I believe gives a map direction to where the place existed, maybe??

"Tellos. Rancho de la municipalidad de Mezquital del Oro, partido de Juchipila, Estado de Azcatecas, a 12 kilometros al N. de la cabecera municipal"

searching for parents for maria anotonia quiros . she had married my antonio posada. children are my manuela posada and jph balbino posada.