Rancho de los Ocotes (San Miguel el Alto)

Hello! Just visited San Miguel el Alto a few weeks ago with hopes of visiting Rancho de los Ocotes -- where my Gutierrez line resided for @ 150 years prior to arriving in the US. However, when I asked around, the locals told me there were several locations in San Miguel el Alto named "Rancho de los Ocotes." Is this correct? Thank you for any information on this particular rancho. Roxanne

Gomez family from Jalpa

Hello everyone, my name is Arlene Samaniego and I am looking for help.

I am a Gomez via my maternal line and I am stuck on my mothers paternal line. I cannot seem to locate documents past my 3rd great grandfather Damien Gomez. My last known information is that they resided in Jalpa, Zacatecas and before that possibly Jalisco?

I believe that my Gomez line descended from the Gomez Portugal line due to Y DNA tests conducted by my paternal Great Uncle which connects them to Manuel Gomez de Portugal but we dont know via which male?

I just cant find documents prior to Damien and have hit a brick road. I have a possible father for him as Jose Luis Gomez and Juana Jimenes but nothing to corroborate this.

The following is what I have:

Damien Gomez (1820 - 1887) married to Maria Jesus Gutierres
3rd great-grandfather

Gregorio Gomez (1855 - 1914) married to Ramona Mojarro and Petra Viramontes
Son of Damien Gomez and my 2nd Great Grandfather

Jose Cruz Gomez de Viramontes (1890 - 1947) married Evarista Medina de Tiscareno
Son of Gregorio Gomez and my great grandfather

Benjamin Gomez de Medina (1922 - 1995)
Son of Jose Cruz Gomez Viramontes my grandfather

Maria Gloria Gomez Estrada (1956 - 2008)
My mother

Any insight from any of you would be appreciated!

De la Rosa Ortiz family

Hello,

I am looking for information on Jesús De la Rosa (b. ca 1830, d. 11/NOV/1890) and Timotea Ortiz (b. ca 1833, d. 3/NOV/1892) from Chalchihuites, they got married around 1850 (I haven't been able to find any records) and had at least 4 children: Margarito, María Bibiana, María Genoveva and Santiago.

I was able to find that Jesús' parents were Regino De la Rosa and Francisca Hinojosa (also listed as Ynojosa), however, I have not been able to find anything else. There are no baptismal records for their children, only marriages and death certificates.

Does anybody have further information on this family? I am interested in finding who Jesus' grandparents were and specially who were the parents of Timotea.

Regards,

Jaime

Josepha Romo Ruiz de Esparza 1689– BIRTH 04/20/1689 • Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, México

Hello, here is a birth record on the lower right of the site listed below for Josepha Romo Ruuz de Esparza the child of Francisco Romo and Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza. Has anyone come accross this daughter? Her birth year seems to put her parents age past sixty at the time of Josepha's birth. Josepha married Geronimo Rosales Garcia. I am a descendant of this line.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-64V7-73W?i=141&wc=M6Q6…

Cynthia Jimenez

Juana de Aldrete, mujer de Diego Alonso González de Hermosillo.

Hola amigos, existe una familia en Aguascalientes creada por los hijos de Diego Alonso González de Hermosillo y Juana de Aldrete. Se que Diego es hijo del genearca de los Ramírez de Hermosillo, Diego Alonso del Pedrozo y Hermosillo y Paula de Torres. El problema es que no se de quien es hija Juana de Aldrete.

Muchas personas he visto que la nombran Juana de Aldrete y Jiménez de Mendoza, pero no mencionan sus padres. Alguno de ustedes tiene el nombre de los padres de la mencionada Juana que me los pueda proporcionar.

Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.

_________________________________________________________________
Feliz aniversario Messenger!
www.aniversariomessenger.com.mx

FRANCISCO CARRILLO aka DIEGO CARRILLO in Sierra de Pinos: CARRILLO DE SANDI?

Hola primos y primas,

My g6's are Francisco Carrillo and Maria Guadalupe Diaz de Leon, residents on Real de San Nicolas de los Angeles, in Pinos (and at times, in Asientos Ags). He also went by "Diego Carrillo," so I'm going to refer to him as "Francisco Diego Carrillo," to avoid confusion. They married 10 Aug 1728, Limpia Concepcion, Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos, Jal. According to their partida, they did their IM in both Cienega de Mata and in San Matias, Pinos, but I've been unable to find either: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-2G9D-N8?wc=3J6H-SP8

I've established that Maria Guadalupe Diaz was daughter of Joseph Diaz de Leon and Antonia Delgadillo, of Encinillas (see http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/20091), but I'm still brickwalled on Francisco Diego Carrillo. I thought I might present what I have on him, to see if any of you might be able to help me shake a brick or two loose. This is relevant to descendants of Andres Diaz de Leon-Duron and Maria Gertrudis Estefana Carrillo-Diaz, many of whose children would populate Montesa, Zacatecas.

Francisco Diego Carrillo was testigo on the 06 Feb 1723 IM for Cristobal Marquez and Maria Simona, in Pinos. Unfortunately, his age isn't given, nor does he sign his name. He says he had known the pretenso for about 10 years, who was originally from Aguascalientes. Incidentally, the next testigo on this IM is Francisco Xavier Carrillo, who I believe is the same who married Maria Candelaria de Rosas, residents on Salitre. The 2 Francisco's would cross paths, over the years, being padrinos for each other's children. Likely cousins, maybe even brothers:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-B39Q-5L?wc=3P91-DPF

When a testigo on the 26 Apr 1743 IM for Joseph Cayetano Diaz and Maria Quiteria Carrillo (daughter of Francisco Xavier Carrillo and Maria Candelaria), Francisco Diego Carrillo gives his age as 53 (b. 1690), and is given the name "Francisco CARRILLO BISAIS." He could not sign his name, so I'm unable to verify the second surname: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-B9WJ-Q?wc=3P91-SP8

When a testigo on the 27 Oct 1743 IM for Francisco Xavier de Lira and Juana Maria Quintanilla, Francisco Diego Carrillo is listed as "Francisco CARRILLO DE YSAIZ." He again gave his age as 53, and said he was originally from Teocaltiche, and had been living on Angeles for 30 years (ca 1713). Now we know where he was from, and when he moved to Angeles:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-B9WD-S?wc=3P91-SP8

By the way, the Notary in Pinos in 1743 was Andres Hilario de Baena (beautiful penmenship; detailed info, including occupation and spouses of some testigos), who did both of these IMs. We know scribes used phonetics, when transcribing, so this tells us that, either Andres Hilario was partially deaf, or, Francisco Diego Carrillo annunciated his name, very poorly! "Bisais"? Or "de Ysaiz"? "Bisais" is French, but could be "Vizaez" and variants of, though I think it's likely "de Isaiz," "de Isaias" or "de Isassi," all which I've seen, during my research in Los Altos (there HAS to be a Carrillo-Isassi union in this timeline, somewhere... anyone?).

In marriage records for their children, I've seen them listed with the surnames "CARRILLO LIZANDI" and "CARRILLO Y SANDI," which is obviously "Carrillo de Sandi" (could "Bisais: and "Ysaiz" be corruptions of "de Sandi,"??).
IM for Joseph Antonio Carrillo Lizandi and Maria Antonia Galban:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BWGN-1?wc=3PS9-L29
Marriage of Jose Maria Lopez and Maria Guadalupe Carrillo (granddaughter, daughter of son, Antonio Carrillo, who is listed as Antonio Carrillo y Sandi) bottom left:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-J546-R?wc=3JHT-BZ9

Checking the baptism records, 1680-1695, in Teocaltiche, for "Francisco" or "Diego Carrillo," I have 2 candidates:

Diego (Español), son of Geronimo Carrillo and Maria Delgadillo (Lozano-Sandoval?), b. 17 Jun 1688. I believe Geronimo Carrillo was son of Diego Carrillo de Sandi and Maria Lopez de Rubalcava, which would give us "Sandi": https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J93R-NYK

Francisco (Mestizo), son of Francisco Carrillo and Elena Diaz, b. 29 Jul 1687. Francisco Carrillo and Elena Diaz, who appear in the 1681 Teocaltiche Padron, were Mestizos, whereas Francisco Diego Carrillo is always "Español." I've seen several individuals, born Mestizo but categorized as Español, later in life, so I take that with a grain of salt. One thing leading me in their direction, is the fact that Francisco Diego Carrillo and Maria Guadalupe Diaz had a daughter named "Elena Josepha Carrillo," who could've been named for Elena Diaz - though, I've seen "Sandi" appearing in no record related to this family group: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYHM-BV1

Villalpando Families from Asientos

I am working on the descendants of Tomas de Villalpando who was from Leon, Guanajuato, and his wife Maria Velez.

At least one of their sons, Tomas, moved to Aguascalientes and left many descendants in the towns of Aguascalientes and Asientos.

The are three marriages of Villalpandos that I am having trouble connecting:

Marcos de Villalpando, from Leon, married Micaela Diaz de Leon, in Asientos 20 Feb 1713 (Asientos marriages, 1705-17, image 37) [the Tomas de Villalpando who moved to Agascalientes had a brother named Marcos who married in Leon; there is no indication in this record that Marcos was a widower.]

Nicolas de Luebana and Juana de Villalpando, married 29 Dec 1713, in Asientos (Asientos marriages 1705-17, image 31)

Tomas de Villalpando and Maria Gentil Gallardo married 24 Mar 1711, in Asientos (Asientos marriages 1705-17, image 29)

Does anyone have information on the parents of these Villalpandos?

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Padrones

Can someone direct me on where to find Mexican padrones. I see many posters talking about them, but I can't seem to find them at family search. I am looking for the padrones for the Nayarit area for the early Mexican republics as well as the Spanish colonial period. I think it's either Nueva Galicia or Nueva Vizcaya.

Thank you, primos!

Villapando Vielma Xaen Arias in Leon Guanajuato

Hi

For those of you researching any links between the surnames in the subject line, I found this baptism in the records from

Sagrario, Leon, Guanajuato:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S7WF-S51R-S9?i=9&wc=3VWP-7M…

Image 10

15 sept 1646

Maria, dau of Nicolas Villalpando and Maria de Vielma

Padrinos: Francisco Xaen and Ynes Arias (his wife)

I came across it because I am looking for any link between the surnames Olar, Villalpando, and Aguila.

In Asientos, there is an Antonio de Aguila married to a Juana Olar, and I want to find out if Antonio has his roots in Leon.

The surname Olaes shows up in some records mentioned here in NR . Does anyone know if Olar is an alternate spelling of Olaes?

Regards
Denise

Para Daniel Méndez: Los Méndez de Torres y los Gutiérrez de Robles.

Daniel, te envio los fragmentos que encontré de los Gutiérrez de Robles y Méndez de Torres en el libro de Guillermo Padilla Origel "Extractos de Informes Matrimoniales en el Obispado de Michoacán durante el Siglo XVII (1630-1685)". Espero te sirvan de algo:

1.- 7 de diciembre de 1672. Zamora.
Jerónimo Rodríguez Morfín, de Tangancícuaro, h.l. de Jerónimo Rodríguez Morfín e Isabel de Liébana; con Ana Gutiérrez de Robles, de Zamora, h.l. de Pedro Gutiérrez de Robles y Ana de Garibay.

2.- 10 de enero de 1660. Zamora.
Pedro Robledo, de Zamora, h.l. del Capitán Francisco Robledo y María de la Huerta; con Jerónima Gutiérrez de Robles, de Zamora, h.l. de Lázaro Gutiérrez de Robles y Lorenza Pérez de Garfias.

3.- 9 de enero de 1662. Tlazazalca.
Diego Fernández, de Huaniqueo, h.l. de Pedro Fernández Carballo y de Isabel Gutiérrez; con Josefa Gutiérrez de Robles, de Zamora, h.l. de Pedro Gutiérrez de Robles y Ana de Garibay.

4.- 2 de septiembre de 1640. Salamanca.
Capitán Antonio Carlos Martín, alcalde ordinario de esta Villa; con María Gutiérrez de Robles, h.l. de Diego Gutiérrez de Robles y Ana López.

5.- 27 de junio de 1676. Zamora.
Hernando de Chávez, de Zamora, h.l. de Hernando de Chávez y María de Zamora; con María Gutiérrez de Robles, h.l. de Pedro Gutiérrez de Robles y Ana de Garibay.

6.- 8 de agosto de 1673. Zamora.
Simón Tello, de Zamora, viudo de Antonia de Soria, h.l. del Capitán Juan Bautista y Nicolasa Gutiérrez; con Jerónima de Torres Lupiana, h.l. del Alférez Real Don José Méndez de Torres y Catalina de Lupiana, de Zamora.

7.- 20 de enero de 1657. Zamora.
Ramón de Cisneros, de Valladolid; con María Méndez de Torres, h.l. de Diego Méndez de Torres y Ana María Solís, de Zamora.

8.- 27 de enero de 1680. León.
Lorenzo de Zúñiga, de Puruándiro, h.l. de Juan de Zúñiga y Guiomar de Bocanegra; con Josefa de Busto y Méndez, de León, h.l. de Diego Méndez de Torres y Constanza de Busto y Puelles.

9.- 21 de octubre de 1682. Valladolid.
Juan Bermúdez de Figueroa y Castro, natural de la feligresía de Santa María en Galicia en los reinos de Castilla, h.l. de Francisco Bermúdez de Castro y Figueroa y Antonia de Méndez y Figueroa; con María de Torres y Lupiana, viuda de Nicolás de Cervantes, de Zamora, h.l. del Alférez Mayor don José Méndez de Torres y doña Catalina de Lupiana y Torres.

10.- 16 de junio de 1683. Zamora.
José del Campo, de Zamora, h.l. de Salvador del Campo y Juana Begines de Andrada; con Josefa de Torres, h.l. de Simón Méndez de Torres y Juana de Lupiana.

L.C.P. Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco, México.
Tel.: 3781095311
www.facebook.com/jorgeluis.ramirezgomez

New GEDCOM file added (Villa, Casillas, Solis)

Just wanted to let everyone know that I uploaded a GEDCOM file for my family tree. It contains about 200 people. My family comes from Zacatecas (Nochistlan, Pueblo Viejo, Moyahua, Teul, Tabasco). The majority of the surnames in the family tree are Villa, Casillas, Solis, and Duran. Hope this info helps others :)

-Laura

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/laura107

Medinilla de Alvarado Clues

While I was paging through some of the notary records from Guadalajra, I stumbled upon a couple of entries relating to the Medinilla de Alvarado family. I have kept an eye out for them because I believe at least two Medinillas left descendants in Los Altos (who are also my ancestors), however the relationship is still somewhat fuzzy. I think that these records give some clues and give me hope that there is a document out there still that might clear all this up. If anyone has stumbled on any other clues, please share!

First, what I found:

I have not had a chance to sit and read through the somewhat blurry and difficult script, so I would appreciate anything someone might be able to add to my quick summaries.

Negotiation between Hernando de Alvarado and Jose de Medinilla Alvarado (hijo natural of Pedro de Medinilla Alvarado, difunto brother of Hernando) over property currently held by Dona Beatriz de Medinilla Alvarado (hija legitima).

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-69LN-T?i=252&cat=…

A similar negotiation between Hernando, Beatriz, and Magdalena de Medinilla Alvarado (another illegitimate child of Pedro de Medinilla).

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-69LF-C?i=302&cat=…

Lastly, further discussion of some houses in Guadalajara inherited by Beatriz de Medinilla Alvarado (who had now died without a will) which Jose de Medinilla Alvarado (sobrino of Hernando de Alvarado) and Dona Isabel de Medinilla Alvarado (heiress of Hernando de Alvarado) intend to split.

This is not confirmed, but I believe this Pedro de Medinilla Alvarado was an Alcalde Ordinario of Guadalajara and a son of Pedro de Medinilla and Isabel de Alvarado. This would also make sense given that Pedro and Isabel had a son named Hernando de Medinilla Alvarado (bapt. 9 Mar 1541 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-RHVJ-4 ) who could be the Hernando de Alvarado mentioned in the notary records. If that is the case then it provides some evidence that the Pedro de Medinilla Alvarado in Guadalajara had children.

Here is how I think they connect to Los Altos families:

The first connection would be through Maria de Medinilla married to Juan Yanez del Monte, residents of Nochistlan and the ancestors of a large family (including Aramburu / Arambula, Ponce de Leon,etc. This Maria may be a granddaughter or daughter of the Pedro de Medinilla Alvarado who lived in Guadalajara.

The other possible connection is through the Vanegas de Torres. The Vanegas families of Jalostotitlan, San Juan de los Lagos, Tepatitlan, and Ayo el Chico seem to be descended from the 4 illegitimate children of Jose Vanegas de Torres cc Catalina del Castillo Villasenor. His wife's death record (3 Sep 1694 in Tepatitlan) lists Jose's children however neither his marriage ( https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-5V3S?i=1231&wc=3NTX-HZ… ) nor his death (28 May 1692 in Tepatitlan) give his parents names. His marriage lists him as a resident of Juanacatlan.

I believe that Jose is likely the son of Andres Vanegas de Torres, a prominent resident of Guadalajara listed as a receptor, and Isabel de Medinilla. Andres and Isabel had a number of children baptized in Guadalajara. Andres's father was another Andres Vanegas de Torres, native of Granada, who was a corregidor, alcalde mayor, and escribano who I believe baptized a number of children with a Juana Baptista in Guadalajara in the early 1600's.

It is possible that the Isabel de Medinilla Alvarado mentioned in one of the notary records above is the same as the Isabel de Medinilla who married Andres Vanegas de Torres.

There is still a lot missing here. I would love to hear what you all think and whether you have come across any other pieces to this puzzle!

Richard

AYUDA WITH ROMO AND FEMAT ANCESTORS

Dear fellow genealogists (amateur or professional). My name is Bernardo Menchaca from Monterrey (now living in Monclova, Coahuila) and am researching my Romo ancestors. I’m relatively new to the Nuestros Ranchos community and hadn’t troubled you with requests until I had something to offer (or so I think).

Let me give you first some background information on what I know, them something of what I infer and have some doubts with, and lastly what I ask of you.

I. WHAT I KNOW:

I.1 INFORMACIÓN MATRIMONIAL OF RAFAEL FEMATE AND JUANA MARÍA LÓPEZ
Dated 3/Sept/1801, Ojocaliente, Zacatecas
His parents were Ygnacio Femate and Ma. Antonia Velasco
He was 35 years old and was born in Rincón de Romos
She was 27 years old and was born in El Venado
Her parents were Gerónimo López and María Ylaria Zapata
He had lived for 16 years in the city of Zacatecas
After that, and for the last three years he was a resident of the
Ojocaliente community in the Posts (puestos) of Asulaque?, Blanca and Vajío
He was a widower (en segundas nupcias) of Joaquina de Salas (who was buried
in Zacatecas)

I.2 BAPTISMAL INFORMATION FOR LEONARDO ROMO LOPEZ
Dated 10/Nov/1802, Salinas, San Luis Potosí
Was born in Charquito Colorado ¿?
His parents were José Rafael Romo and Juana María López
His paternal grandparents were (in error) José Romo and María Manuela
His maternal grandparents were Gerónimo López and María Ylaria Sapata (the
same parents as above in the Información Matrimonial of Rafael Femate and
Juana María López)

I.3 BURIAL INFORMATION FOR JUANA MARÍA LÓPEZ
Dated 14/Jan/1803, Salinas, San Luis Potosí
She was the wife of Rafael Romo de Vivar
She was originally from Ojocaliente

I.4 INFORMACIÓN MATRIMONIAL FOR RAFAEL ROMO AND MARÍA URBANA LIRA
Dated 9/Apr/1803, Salinas, San Lus Potosí
He was 32 years old (changed his age) and was from Rincón de Romos
Had been raised in La Veta (doesn’t mention Zacatecas) and was a resident
of Ramos and La Palma Pegada
His parents were Ygnacio Romo and Antonia Velasco

I.5 BAPTISMAL INFORMATION FOR THREE CHILDREN OF RAFAEL ROMO AND MARÍA URBANA
LIRA
Two mention the paternal grandfather as Ygnacio Romo and one as Antonio
Romo (could really be Ygnacio Antonio)
One mentions the maternal grandmother as María Antonia Velasco, one as
Antonia Belasquez and the other as Manuela Belasco

I.6 OTHER INFORMATION
They spent some time in Saltillo, Coahuila were they baptized one or
probably two daughters, ca. 1812
By 1816 they were residents of San Buenaventura, Coahuila were they had at
least 5 more children

II. WHAT I INFER, SUPPOSE AND HAVE DOUBTS WITH:

II.1 Rafael Femate and Rafael Romo are one and the same person, changing his
last name for the one of his paternal grandmother (see below)

II.2 I haven’t been able to find his baptismal registry

II.3 I haven’t found the marriage record for Ygnacio Femat and María Antonia
Velasco

II.4 From pedigree information in familysearch.org I have that a boy baptized on
12/July/1731 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes was given the name Ygnacio
Antonio Eugenio Femat and his parents were Antonio Fermín Phemate and
Mónica Vibar. The Información Matrimonial for Fermín Antonio Femat and
Mónica Romo de Vivar (dated 17/Oct/1715 in Aguascalientes) states that his
parents were Fermín Antonio Femat and Bárbara González Aguirre and her
parents were Capitán Nicolás Romo de Vivar (deceased) and María Martínez de
Villalobos (according to his signed petition) or María de Villalobos
(according to her statement)
It could be a case of homonymy but my guess is that this is the Ygnacio
Femat I’m looking for, although I can’t be sure. There were apparently very
few Femat’s at the time.

III. WHAT I ASK OF YOU

III.1 HELP!!!!

III.2 Seriously now, if you have information on Rafael Femate’s baptism or
previous marriages or on the marriage of Ygnacio Femat and Antonia Velasco
I would be very thankful if you could share it with me

Thank you in advance for your help.

Bernardo Menchaca Falcón

Found Raphael Femat and Raphaela Aguilar

Raphael Femat married Juana Raphaela Aguilar after 14 march 1789 (date of informacion matrimonial) in zacatecas (sagrario). They both state coyote as their caste. These are the parents of Manuel Romo (of aguascalientes) who lived in Nadadores and later San Buenaventura. For more info see the image (637):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15209-14797-6?cc=1804458&wc=…
Bernardo Mechaca, you were right! Raphael Romo was aka Raphael Femat!
Regards
Denise Fastrup
Ps there is a death record indexed for raphaelas mother in aguascalientes..The trail goes on!

Parents of Juan de Moscoso y Sandoval...

Good evening,

I am a new member of nuestrosranchos and find this an excellent resource
full of great information.

As I continue to research my family tree and fill in the gaps, one major gap
I have is not being able to confirm who are the parents of Juan de Moscoso y
Sandoval, married to Catalina Andrea Benavides Cortez in Nochistlan, in
early 1600. Some say Juan’s father was Lope de Moscoso Osorio y Castro (VI
Conde de Altamira) and his mother was Leonor Sandoval Roxas y Borja. Has
anybody found any confirmation of who his parents were?

I found this book “Nobiliario Genealógico de los Reyes y Títulos de España ”
which you can fully download from
(https://books.googleusercontent.com/books/content?req=AKW5QaeqgrLiRCz9C…
U4zaajKX5Xi68jbRMqBnED3joB5_XIktZUnklH0Umz-G2QRig8XzygFJpponVB_MOcy42Rbie13O
1ib0KmN9zpPNzyubLEHd28bQKm4VvT2Rybg__FxdqXl7KWw8cIJhM73TsYP-QQ_Zdb7Ah1TYGSjC
8QB01hmwQ7AWcukB8FQTz5f2KyAFL0z34nb6k7kWDzpALOig6tiaWG7IVRtxiYRQzPdWvIWmFdpT
ZX0xWsztSxnDX38s8Up26pzAYd8S-78zk4AM1xEreQGD5HoFrLP4pCKsagwYoA ) The book is
quite interesting and has excellent information which could be helpful to
many of you. On pages 332-334, the author mentions Lope de Moscoso Osorio,
his wife and, although not clear to me, also mentions them having 10
children? If you have a chance to access this book, please read the first
paragraph on the second column of page 332. Afterwards, several of their
children are mentioned but not all. Unfortunately Juan Moscoso y Sandoval
was not listed and may be one of those missing.

In addition, in the next paragraph mentions one of his sons as Baltasar de
Moscoso y Sandoval as Cardenal de la Santa Iglesia Romana y Obispo de Jaen,
que fue Arcediano de Guadalajara, etc. Does anyone know what is Arcediano de
Guadalajara and is the Guadalajara referred to here in Mexico (Nueva España)
or somewhere else in Spain?

Again, I am just trying to find the missing link for me regarding who were
the parents of Juan de Moscoso y Sandoval.

Thank you for your time and feedback to help me get the info/source I am
missing.

Jose Mendizabal

Araiza y Medina

Hello all,

My name is Michael Araiza and I reside in Tucson, Arizona.
I've been do genealogy for about 6+ years. I have followed my Araiza line from Sonora into Jalisco. Ambrosio Araiza (1746-1819) was the first in my line up north from Jalisco. There has been such wonderful research done and contributed on the Araiza line and I am sincerely thankful to all those researchers. I would love to share anything I know on the surname if any of my info can be of use.

As I have come across, I understand that the Araiza's are in Aguascalientes in the early 1600's, and Fernando Araiza is a Vecino of Zacatecas.

My general question is there any information on the "y Medina" surname?

I have noticed that the "Araiza Y Medina" has been passed down into several generations even when an Araiza is not necessarily married to a Medina. Is this due to importance of the surname?

For example Juan de Araiza y Medina I, his parents were Fernando de Araiza and Maria Guzman, wouldn't the name have been Araiza Y Guzman? Why did the "Y medina" keep carrying on?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I have read, Fernando Araiza and Juan Araiza Y Medina I are the the first to the new world from Los Reinos de Castilla por un lugar de la vizcaya?

Any info or discussion will be greatly appreciated.

Muchas Gracias,

Michael

Garbriel lopez de nava family in Celaya and/or Apatzeo ?

Hi

Does anyone out there know of a branch of the Gabriel Lopez de Nava family (1600s and 1700s) living in Celaya or Apatzeo?

A woman with the last name Naba (Nava) married a man with last name Aguila in Apatzeo, and I would like to identify her (and him). Their parents are not named. The record is in the book of IM's. I will post the link here later when I have access to my other computer.

Regards
Denise

Don Sebastian de el Aguila and Dona Maria Teresa Lopez de Nava

Hi

I am looking for the parents of Sebastian de el Aguila, married to Dona Maria Teresa Lopez de Nava.

They are named as parents of Don Diego Xavier de el Aguila in his marriage to Anna Maria Valdes 09 Dec 1778.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6SGW-94B?i=161&wc=M6QF…

I have searched high and low for Aguilas in Family Search. There are several Sebastians and one with potential. However, I need Sebastians marriage record to be sure....

Next step is going through images page by page, unless someone already has this information.....and is willing to share!

Regards,
Denise

Antonio Villalpando

On the subject of the three men named Antonio Villalpando in Asientos, I earlier posted the info below (reply to original post from George Fulton):
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Antonio Villalpando 1752
Submitted by Denise Fastrup on Mon, 2018-09-03 19:39.
I found three mentions of Antonio Villapando...three men or two or one and the same?

Here are the links and some info:

Image 275
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DC33-SPY?i=274&wc=M6QX…
06 May 1752
Joseph Antonio Villalpando, age 25, esp, soltero, testigo #2, MAESTRO DE SASTRE
I.M. for Joseph Sanchez mestizo and Maria Servantes española
Cannot sign his own name
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Image 279
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DC33-SKV?i=278&wc=M6QX…
10 may 1752
Antonio de Villalpando age 25, esp, soltero, testigo #2,
I.M. for Joseph Marcelo Reyes esp and Anna Josepha (Infante) esp.
cannot sign own name
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Image 305
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DC33-SKN?i=304&wc=M6QX… image 305
10 june 1752
Antonio de Villalpando, age 24, from Tepezalan, soltero, testigo #1
I M for Pedro Fermin Martinez indio and Anna Gertrudis Martinez india
Signed his own name (but it looks like he is not used to writing!)

So, if you descend from an Antonio Villalpando, there are a few clues here....

Regards,
Denise

edit: forgot the source, here it is:
"México, Aguascalientes, registros parroquiales, 1620-1962," database with images, FamilySearch
Asientos > Nuestra Señora de Belén > Información matrimonial 1750-1754
parroquias Católicas, Aguascalientes (Catholic Church parishes, Aguascalientes).
Film number 1410803

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I came across the third Antonio Villalpando again (above reference image 305), with the same curious signature, listed as a testigo in 1758, and this time with a note that he is married to Barbara Gertrudis Romo de Vivar:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6769-97D?i=227&wc=M6QX…

Regards
Denise

GEDCOM Database Working Again

I apologize for the numerous errors on the site recently.

Our host has upgraded the server's PHP version to one that is incompatible with much of the software we are running. We are trying to migrate the site to newer versions.

As of today, I have migrated The Next Generation software used for the GEDCOM database to the latest version and that database should be working again.

Other upgrades will be forthcoming.

Conquest of Granada 1480-1492

Hello to fellow members, I've been reading through some historical text among them Andres Bernáldez 'Historia de los Reyes Católicos' & Anales de Aragón by Jerónimo Zurita, also Washington Irvings' Conquest of Granada. They mention the names and participation of many Spanish nobles and knights. Some of you may recognize or have a Genealogical connection to some of the following names:Don Diego de Córdoba, Antonio de Cueva, Hernán Pérez del Pulgar, Diego de Agüero, Juan de Vera, Sancho Giménez de Solís, Rodrigo Ponce de León, Ortega de Prado, Pedro Enriques, Diego de Merlo, Sancho de Ávila, Martín Galindo, Alonso de Córdoba, Gonzalo de Córdoba, Juan de Guzmán, Alonzo de Aguilar, Rodrigo Girón, Martín Alonso de Montemayor, Beltrán de la Cueva, Íñigo López de Mendoza, Pedro Manriques, Pedro Pineda, Alonzo Ponce, Luis Fernández Puerto Carrero, Diego López de Ayala, Pedro Ruiz de Alarcón, Alonzo Ortiz, Martin Dias de Mina, Carlos de Varela, Alonzo de Aragón, Rodrigo Téllez Girón, Pedro Gasca de Ávila, Juan de Ribera, Pedro de Vargas, Juan de Silva, Alonzo de Cárdenas, Pedro de Silva, Diego de Córdoba, Diego Fernández de Córdoba, Lope de Mendoza, Diego de Calvijo, Lorenzo de Porres, Martín Hurtado, Alonso de Rueda, Bartolomé Hurtado, Martín de Alarcón, Pedro González de Mendoza, Hernán Carrello, Gutierre de Cárdenas, Fabrique de Toledo, Alexis de Estancia, Tello de Aguilar, Juan Almaraz, Carlos de Biezman, Diego López de Ávila, Luis de Cerda, Gutierre de Padilla, Francisco Ramírez de Madrid, Gutierre Muñoz, Pedro de Alvarado, Gastón du León, Alonso Pacheco, Esteban Luzon, Mendo de Quezada, Pedro Castro, Francisco Enriques, Pedro Mártir de Angleria, Gregorio Rodríguez de Ardilla, Diego Castrillo, Tristán de las Casas, Juan Rodríguez Manjarron, Ramón de Rocafull, Juan de Aragón, Francisco Bocadillo, Luis Osorio, Juan de Bonavides, Fernan Álvarez de Sotomayor, Garcilaso de la Vega, Diego de Atayde, Álvaro de Portugal, Hernando de Talavera, Diego Ponce de León, Luis Ponce, Juan de Zúñiga, Ruy López de Toledo, Lorenzo Suárez de Mendoza, Juan de Avalos, Juan Perea, Juan de Luna, Menlo de Quejada, Francisco de Bazán and a few more I will add latter.

Gustavo Serna noted Mexican Accountant assoc. with PriceWaterhouse, IBM, Casa Domecq., participant in NAFTA

Saludos, I am Helping someone for the past weeks, who is searching for her father Jose Serna b. 1920 who lived in the USA but he was from Mexico. She has some Photos, and knows his Cousin was Cipriano Serna b.1896 & Dolores Valdivia. Aguascalientes, Mex.

This is Cipriano's son.
David Serna 1922-2010 Aguascalientes
https://www.geni.com/people/David-de-la-Serna-V/6000000006099737207
the Account is managed by Xavier Serna Cardenas.. which you can see there is an option to contact him, but you need a paid account. if someone has a Geni.com Account
... I'm hoping someone could use their Geni account to contact him.

This is Cipriano's other Son
Gustavo Serna 1926-2018 He worked in economics and finance as you can see in this story he was accomplished.
http://www.noticen.com.mx/2018/07/fallece-en-la-ciudad-de-mexico-gustav…

If someone has the geni account or knows how to get in touch with any of their living descendants, I hope to forward the jpg fotos she has of her father, what she believes was Cipriano's Family, The writing on the back of the photos indicate they are close relations.
Attached Foto shows her father on the far right. Jose Serna
Thank you David.