El Santo Oficio y los descendientes del Comendador Leonel Cervantes

Hola prim@s,

While going through the Procesos del Santo Oficio de Mexico, 1522-1820, I found several limpiezas de sangre for descendants of the Comendador D Leonel Cervantes cc Da Leonor de Andrada, and of their son-in-law, D Juan de Cervantes Casaus. I do not descend from these families (that I yet know of), so I know very little about them. But I thought I might share these here, since I know many of you do, and they’re a super useful resource.

The Inquisicion archives are not all criminal cases: limpiezas were required whenever a person was named to certain posts, be it royal or ecclesiastical. For generations, these same families maintained posts throughout Nueva España, so there are several limpiezas.

These are my rough notes; I haven’t read through all of these folders, and in some cases, I saved it because of the surnames, “Cervantes” & “Andrada.” That said, my knowledge of the contents, and of these families in general, is very limited, and I’m afraid I can answer no questions in regards. Instead, please feel free to use this thread for open discussion, and to share any discoveries you make with these links.

Addition notes:
- I only research records from the 16th & early-17th centuries, so there will be more, in later centuries, if you want to continue looking. The archives are very well-indexed, which can be found on the first 3 rolls.
- Though some of these do reach back to Spain, I don’t think they reveal any earlier ancestors, but they will help unravel the tangle of various lines who descend from these couples, and the families they intermarried with, since wives’ limpiezas are usually included.
- I try to include links to the index and to the original document. In some cases, it might be one or the other.

Enjoy!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

Arriaga in Villanueva, Zacatecas

Hello, I am searching for the line of Felipe Arriaga who was married to Regina Cervantes - also listed as Sandoval - from Villanueva, Zacatecas. My grandmother Ynocencia Arriaga is from this line - her father Narciso Arriaga, his father Eugenio Arriaga, his father Sostenes Arriaga, his father Felipe. Sostenes was married to Francisca de los Santos and Eugenio was married to Dorotea Mercado. Is anyone also from this line?

Cynthia

Victor Velos and related famililies: brick walls

maria antonia velos in family search and or ancestry.com who is married to rafael martinez is my 5th great grandparents. maria antonia velos comes from a area known as grangenos, mexico in 1804. parents from what i had found so far happens to be victor velos or vela and maria guadalupe cordero. parents of victor velos was known to be as nazario velos and dorotea garcia? any areas i should be looking for? so far it is a dead end

Domingo Camarena / 1650 Padron for Jalostotitlán

I am working on my Camarena line and I am stuck at Domingo Camarena and Maria Gonzalez. I read that the Camarenas appear in the 1650 padron for Jalostotitlán. I found other padrones for Jalostotitlán, but not the one for the year 1650.

Does anyone know where I can find it or where I can find other records or clues to continue my Camarena line?

Any assistance given would be very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Glenn

Femat and Femá with Romo de Vivar

Femat and Femá with Romo de Vivar

Hello

I came across this information today:

The name Femá is also written as Femat, judging from two documents:

1. Marriage dispensa for Don Fernando Femá and Dona Teodora Romo de Vivar,
Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic...Church Records, 1590-1995
Guadalajara
Diócesis de Guadalajara
Matrimonios 1735-1819
Image 45 of 278

This doc has a tree for Monica Romo de Vivar and two of her sons and their sons and their son/daughter (who wish to marry). One son of Monica has the name Fermin Femá and the other is given as Pedro Romo de Vivar.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18402-92423-90?cc=1874591&wc…

2. The Información Matrimonial for Fermín Antonio Femat and
Mónica Romo de Vivar (dated 17/Oct/1715 in Aguascalientes, Sagrario) IMAGE 166 ON THE FOLLOWING:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11627-22110-47?cc=1410092&…

Monica's proposed husband is named as Fermin Antonio Femat, and his father has the same name (end with a "t", no accent mark)

Regards
Denise Fastrup

Se reactivo la Guía General del Archivo General de la Nación

Hola a los genealogistas:

Desde ayer encontré que se reactivó por fin, la Guía General del Archivo General de la Nación que contiene, entre otros, los documentos de la época virreinal.

Espero que ayude a todos los que tiene bloqueos en sus investigaciones.

Saludos

Marcelina

jose simon martinez and or maria rosalia delgadillo

been actively online again searching for jose simon martinez and his wife maria rosalia delgadillo. he was born roughly about 1760 mexico and she also was born about 1765 . their 8childrens name has been found in baptisms through family search . havent found no marriage record or anything pertaining to them yet other than they were at their childrens marriages or whatever. i would like to know who their parents are and where they may have died at. some of their childrens names were jose demasio , maria mauricia etc and were born near san agustin, villa de arriaga, san potosi, mexico

Anda-Altamirano, Esteban- Nueva informacion

Hola,
Recientemente acabo de localizar el testamento y fundacion de capellania de Esteban de Anda-Altamirano. Dicho documento contradice lo que escribio el genealogista Mariano Gonzalez-Leal en la obra de Retonos de Nueva Galicia. Mariano Gonzalez-Leal estipulo que Esteban Anda-Altamirano casado con Mariana de Araujo era hijo de Esteban Anda de Altamirano y Catalina Lopez de Portugal. El testamento y fundacion de capellania localizada prueba que Esteban Anda- Altamirano era en realidad hijo de Juan de Anda-Altamirano y Juana Ruiz de Nava.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DG93-6M?i=398&cc=18745…

Informacion importante imagen 413/497-415/497

Espero que alguien le sirva dicha informacion.

saludos

sus

Juan Sanches Salgado and Victoria Ballin

These two are my 8th great-grandparents, from Nochistlan. Approximate DOB for Juan is 1705 and for Victoria is 1708. I don't know where they were born but I know they were married in Nochistlan on 25 Oct 1726.
Victoria was Juan's 2nd wife. His first wife was Juana Manuela Lupercio Lerman, who was born 1705 in La Laja, Jalisco and died by 25 Oct 1726.
By 1705, Juan was living in Cerrito Colorado, Jalisco.
My research is at a logjam and would love some additional information.
Gracias,
Rick

Casa de Diego de Coria

Hola! compañeros esta es la segunda ocasión que pido ayuda . referente al este tema de Los Coria Peralta , encontré`este documento parte de un libro que habla de los Conquistadores de México dice así. La Casa de Diego de Coria iego de Coria Cédula de su Majestad de recomendación para el y sus hijos que son,y los demás descendientes Alonso de Coria. Hijo Manuel de Coria.Hijo Diego de Coria Hijo y nieto de otro Conquistador Geronimo Lopez Alonso Peralta.Nieto creo que estos dos personajes Diego de Coria Hijo y Geronimo Lopez son Padre y Abuelo de Manuel de Coria Peralta esposo se Catalina Lomelin pues Geronimo Lopez Caso con una Peralta O podría ser el mismo Geroniml Lopez de Peralta el Abuelo de Mnauel?

Lope de Ruiz Esparza lineage, dead end

Hello. I'm trying to trace my lineage to Lope de ruiz esparza. I started in Guadalajara where my dad is from, to Cocula, to Amatlan in Nayarit. I've been stuck there for quite some time now becuase the church records have what looks like water damage. I fear that the information I need is in one of the illegible pages. I'm wondering if anyone might have any information that can help me connect from Lope to My 6XGrandfaher. His name is Onofre Joseph Barbosa Y Esparza born around 1720 (can't find birth record, and not sure if he was even born in Amatlan), married to Catharina Banegas . His son is Gregorio Antonio Barbosa Esparza born around 1740 (can't find birth record), Married to Marianna Lopez (sometimes Maria Anna) in July of 1758. If anyone has any connection, or any tips on how else I can find records. I really want to keep going, but this wall I've hit is hard to break through. Thank you in advance.

-Eddie Esparza

Hola. Intento rastrear mi linaje hasta Lope de ruiz esparza. Empecé en Guadalajara, de donde es mi padre, a Cocula, y de allí a Amatlan en Nayarit. He estado atrapado allí por bastante tiempo porque los registros de la iglesia tienen lo que parece ser daño por agua. Me temo que la información que necesito está en una de las páginas ilegibles. Me pregunto si alguien podría tener alguna información que pueda ayudarme a conectarme de Lope a My 6Xabuelo. Su nombre es Onofre Joseph Barbosa Y Esparza, nacido alrededor de 1720 (no se puede encontrar el registro de nacimiento, y no estoy seguro si nació en Amatlan), casado con Catharina Banegas. Su hijo es Gregorio Antonio Barbosa Esparza nacido alrededor de 1740 (no se puede encontrar el registro de nacimiento), casado con Marianna López (a veces María Anna) en julio de 1758. Si alguien tiene alguna conexión, o algún consejo sobre cómo más puedo encontrar registros. Realmente quiero seguir, pero este muro que he golpeado es difícil de romper. Gracias de antemano.

-Eddie Esparza

Assistance with transcribing marriage record

Hello,
Can anyone provide assistance in transcribing a marriage record? It is a marriage parish record from the 1700's in Valle de Rosario, Chihuahua Mexico. I can figure out part of this record but there is a section with writing that I can't figure out. I need to see whether the groom Thomas de Ochoa has another surname or identifier written in the area of the parish record that is a little faded out. It looks like the word 'Espanol" but I can't be sure. One of the witnesses "Joseph" might share the Ochoa surname but I just can't tell.
Thanks if anyone is interested in looking at this or can recommend
a paleographer who can help me,
Yo

Padrones

Good Evening,
I've recently run across an 1839 Padrones for Asientos, Aguas. on FamilySearch.
Went through it all and found some useful information.
I'm wondering how often Mexico ordered Padrones and if they were
done nationally at the same time like a census.
Is there a resource for Mexican Padrones?
Thanks so much,
Alice BB

Indexed info available for some Obispado de Michoacan records.

Hello,

In a previous post, I asked the question of how much interest existed for indexed information from the Obispado de Michoacan records. Given the replies offline, there is interest. While I was not aware that Katy Albrect was already thinking of doing the same... I had already gone ahead (A couple of weeks ago) and have a website and some records already indexed. For the time being and until I figure out how I can collaborate with Katy on this, you can view the indexed records I have here:

http://www.valladoliddispensas.com

It has a whopping total of 4 1/2 (almost finished with the fifth) indexed films. It's a humble start, but, as we figure out how to collaborate, I hope it will grow in one way or another. There are over a 1000 films to index! The task will take more than any one person to get through.

In the first batch of indexes, I already see records for Ocotlan, Poncitlan, and La Barca, that I hope will be useful to this group, along with the other info for families that originated in Michoacan, Guanajuato, and San Luis Potosi.

In the meantime, enjoy!

P.S. if you have any feedback on the website, I'm all ears. (themexican@outlook.com)

Thanks for your time and your attention,

Daniel Serna Valencia

Capt. Andres Figueroa

Hi,
I'm hoping someone has come across Capt. Andres Figueroa, from around 1590-1650. He is the brother of Joseph Figuera de Venegas, the priest of Jalpa, Zac from 1610-1655. It is possible that Capt Andres Figueroa also went by the name "Andres Figueroa Saavedra"

One of the Tieras & Aguas records I came across states that Andres left a will after he died sometime before 1655. Where would such wills be found in Guadalajara's archives?

I also found an Andres Venegas who was alcalde mayor of Mestiticacan (http://books.openedition.org/cemca/1599?lang=en) in 1616. I wonder if in this source, the capitan was using Venegas just as his brother used it as a second last name?

Thanks in advance,
Arturo

My Heritage

Greetings to all,
Has anyone any experience with My Heritage?
I'd like to know if a membership is a worthwhile
thing to do towards furthering research in Mexico
and Spain.
Thanks so much,
Alice BB

Research Digest, Vol 149, Issue 1

I have this couple, except the husband I have is Pablo Ortiz. Two children: Ana Ortiz and Phelipe Ortiz. No parents. The information I have is from Matrimonial record of their daughter to son of Lope Ruiz de Esparsa. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-51650-25?cc=1410092&…

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Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 18:34:41 -0700
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Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I?m wondering if someone is familiar with the couple Pedro Ortiz and
Catalina Ramirez, they would?ve been born towards the end of the 1500s or
early 1600s in Aguascalientes probly. Does anyone know anything about them
or who their parents are?
--
Danny C. Alonso

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Libros De La Nueva Espana

I had the idea that there were a number of books during the colonial days of Mexico.

So I did a search in the Pars website archive for "libros"

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

Then on the left hand side filter by "archivos de indias" and then again "contains digital objects"

So I can only get list of archives of the americas with documents pertaining to books.

Because some of those books may have illustrations such as places to see what they looked like back then.

Where were Esclavos Sold in Nueva Galicia and are there any archives?

I am curious if anyone knows where esclavos were sold in the Nueva Galicia area such as Zacatecas, Jalisco, Aguasclientes.

Are there any archives to view on those. I had seen the archive of Aguascalientes that has an interesting sub-archive on the "Venta de Esclavos" that is in detail with names, description, who bought them, etc.