Nuestros Ranchos Site

I'd like to hear from anyone who might have info on this family. I believe that Victor must have been the son of Charles Francis Delmas - am I right? Below is all I know.

Victor Delmas married Concepcion Sandoval about 22 June 1868 in El Sagrario or Santo Domingo, Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico. Two daughters are known: Ma. Soledad, christened (same place as above) 27 March 1869; and Ma. Guadalupe, christened 12 June 1871. Soledad married David Diaz de Leon 16 February 1885 (same place as above).

~~~~~~~~~~~
Suzy B. Burt
~~~~~~~~~~~

Marge, Juanita,

My genealogy is already in gedcom files on this website under Esther Herold. My gedcom only goes to Diego Trevino and Francisca Alcocer.

Marge and Juanita, have you uploaded a gedcom of your Trevino/Velasco family to this website?

Thanks,
--
Esther A. Herold

-------------- Original message from Joseph Puentes : --------------

> but don't put it in an email to the list.
>
> either:
>
> 1) gedcom it to the group via the gedcom section
> 2) put a report in your folder
> 3) email it to her privately
>
> joseph
>
> ===================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
>
>
>
> M. Vallazza wrote:
> > I'm interested in seeing your information, if you don't mind. Thanks.
> > Marge:)
> > On Dec 8, 2006, at 12:27 PM, juanita delgado wrote:
> >
> >
> >> my family tree traces DIEGO de TREVINO, back 7. yes, 7 generations 2
> >> generations before 1384.All the generations have a surname of VELASC0.
> >>
> >> Just thought it might interest you, though you might have this
> >> information already.
> >>
> >> eaherold@att.net wrote:
> >> Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
> >> myth also. All I know that has been
> >> verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
> >> and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
> >> family.
> >>
> >> Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
> >> connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned
> >> a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan.
> >> THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there
> >> are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where
> >> he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
> >>
> >> Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
> >> daughter of Jose Trevino.
> >> According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
> >> came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
> >> born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
> >> The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
> >> to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> --
> >> Esther A. Herold
> >>
> >>
> >> -------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" : --------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> It's a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
> >>> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
> >>> for verification, it appears that he isn't. I'm a descendant of Diego
> >>> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
> >>> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
> >>> Aquitaine? I'd love to know. Marge :)
> >>> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
> >>>> children of Diego Tevino and
> >>>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think Francisca
> >>>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
> >>>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
> >>>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
> >>>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
> >>>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
> >>>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
> >>>> Fernandez
> >>>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
> >>>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
> >>>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Esther A. Herold
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------- Original message from rosa9972
> >>>> : --------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Linda and Joseph--
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, Linda, your aunt is related to me and Joseph through the
> >>>>> Banuelos family.
> >>>>> I have her ancestry for some generations back. I collect as much
> >>>>> information
> >>>>> on the Banuelos and related families of Huejucar, Jalisco. I'll
> >>>>> email
> >>>>> you off
> >>>>> the group so we can exchange information.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So far I have your aunt as my 3rd cousin once removed, and Joseph as
> >>>>> her 5th
> >>>>> cousin once removed. Almost all of the Banuelos from Huejucar are
> >>>>> related and
> >>>>> are from Rancho Las Bocas.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rosalinda
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Joseph Puentes
> >>>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2006 6:22 PM
> >>>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> >>>>> Cc: "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos and Quesada in Huejucar
> >>>>> Jalisco
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Ba

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: ACTION REQUIRED TODAY : LATINO MUSEUM COMMISSION BILL
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:54:42 -0500 (EST)
From: MIMILOZANO@aol.com
To: MIMILOZANO@aol.com

DEAR FRIENDS OF US LATINOS . . .

*PLEASE *ACTION IS NEEDED TODAY . . . READ BELOW AND CONTACT YOUR _STATE
US SENATOR _. . . THIS IS THE FIRST VERY NECESSARY STEP FOR A LATINO
MUSEUM IN DC . . . _TWO TELEPHONE CALLS . . THAT IS ALL_

THE CALL FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION IS FROM THE OFFICE OF SENATOR SALAZAR
FORWARDED FROM OFFICE OF ASSEMBLYMAN XAVIER BECERRA. . . SO ACTION IS
NEEDED NOW BEFORE 2 PM. *MAKE 2 CALLS.*

*Contacting U.S. Congressmembers >
JUST CHANGE THE ZIP CODE STATE ID site includes . . .
phone, fax number and URL for that office *
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/cgi-bin/newseek.cgi?site=ctc&state=ca

<<

PLEASE FORWARD. . . . .

>
> *From:* Najar, Joel [mailto:joel.najar@mail.house.gov]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 07, 2006 11:48 AM
> *To:* Larry Gonzalez; 'Oleary, Pilar'; ''Henry Muñoz III'; 'Myra
> Lopez'; 'Estuardo Rodriguez'; 'Raul Gonzalez'; Ferreira, David;
> 'Ronald Blackburn'; 'MIMILOZANO@aol.com'
> *Cc:* Escobar, Felicia (Salazar)
> *Subject:* FW: Action today on the Latino Museum Commission Bill
> *Importance:* High
>
> Message from Felicia Escobar:
>
> Senator Coburn has lifted his hold on the Latino Museum Commission
> bill - but we are hearing that there is another objection to the bill.
> We have VERY limited time to get this bill passed (i.e. today) and we
> really need to talk to the Senator who is blocking the bill. I was
> told that someone might be holding it up, but have no idea who it is.
>
> If you have any idea who it might be, please tell Felicia in Salazar's
> office.
>
> Talking points are attached in case you can help reach Senators'
> offices today.
>
>
BEFORE ADJOURNMENT, THE *SENATE *SHOULD PASS* H.R. 2134, *TO CREATE A
COMMISSION TO STUDY THE FEASIBILITY OF A NATIONAL LATINO MUSEUM

H.R. 2134 would authorize the President and Congressional leaders to
appoint a 23 member commission to study whether and how to establish and
maintain a national museum in Washington, D.C. dedicated to the
contributions of the American Hispanic community to the United States.

The House of Representatives passed H.R. 2134 by voice vote on September
27, 2006. The bill enjoys broad bipartisan support and was not opposed
in the House.

The sponsors are Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-CA) and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
(R-FL). The Senate companion, S. 2475, is cosponsored by Sen. Ken
Salazar (D-CO) and Sen. Mel Martinez (R-FL).

H.R. 2134 is currently being held at the Senate Clerk's desk, and can be
passed by Unanimous Consent of the Senate. Sen. Domenici, the chair of
the committee of jurisdiction over this bill, and Majority Leader Frist
are supportive and have attempted to schedule a vote on the bill, but an
unknown Senator's office has placed a hold on action. Sen. Coburn from
Oklahoma, who had been blocking, has agreed to lift his hold, but
someone else is now objecting.

H.R 2134 does not actually establish a museum - it merely creates a
commission to consider and report on likely costs, potential locations,
fundraising sources, available collections, community involvement and
other issues involved with establishing a museum. Congress would have
to act once again after receiving the commission's recommendations if it
chooses to establish a museum.

Still, there is a deep interest in the Hispanic community to see that
America's national museums portray an inclusive picture of who we are
and who we are becoming as a nation.

Many potential funders are committed to ensuring that a museum dedicated
to American Hispanic history and cultural contributions is successful.
The proponents of the project expect that half of the funding for the
establishment of such a museum would come from the private sector.

The current institutions in Washington's museum core include a museum
dedicated to the American Indian, and will soon include a National
Museum of African American History and Culture.

There are 45 million Americans of Hispanic descent in the United
States. One of every 5th child born in the United States is Hispanic.
Yet hardly any of the exhibits in the national museums in Washington
portray Hispanic contributions to the United States. Visitors to these
museums walk away from them expecting to have a better sense of American
history and culture. We cannot afford to continue letting an incomplete
story be told.

This legislation is supported by the National Hispanic Leadership
Agenda, the League of United Latin American Citizens, the National
Council of La Raza, the United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, and
many local Hispanic chambers of commerce, as well as a host of community
leaders and Hispanic notables (e.g., Jimmy Smits, Edward James Olmos,
Eva Longoria, and Rosario Dawson).

http://educacion.jalisco.gob.mx/dependen/Cedetec/Softwareeduc/sfthistor…
--
Saludos desde Guadalajara:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez

A number of members have written about their member genealogies folders going missing after updating them. I apologize for the glitch. It appears that due to a change we made to the site when file folders were being updated, they were being taken out of the "Member Genealogy" category and therefore no longer appearing in the file folder listing. However, the folders are still all there and we have restored those of which we have been made aware we have to their correct place. We have also fixed the glitch so this should no longer happen in the future.

If you updated your file folder in the last couple of months, please check the Member Genealogies section to make sure that it still appears there. If it does not, please send us a message at moderator (at) nuestrosranchos.org

=====
Algunos miembros nos han escrito para decirnos que sus carpetas de genealogia se habian desaparecido despues de actualizarlas. Mil disculpas por este molestar. Parece que despues de hacer unos cambios al sitio hace un par de meses, cuando un miembro actualizaba su carpeta, el sistema sacaba la carpeta de la categoria de "Genalogias de Miembros" y asi no aparecia mas en el listado de carpetas. Sin embargo, esas carpetas seguian existiendo y las hemos restaurado a su sitio correcto cuando nos han alertado a esta occurencia. Tambien hemos arreglado el problema tecnico para que ya no ocurra esto en el futuro.

Si actualizaste tu carpeta en los ultimos dos meses, por favor revisa el listado de Genalogia de Miembros para asegurar que aparece aun ahi tu carpeta. Si no esta, por favor avisanos a traves de un mensaje a moderator (at) nuestrosranchos.org

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===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

Un saludo a todos los compañeros del grupo. Mi nombre es Guillermo Figueroa Strecker. Soy nuevo en NuestrosRanchos, aunque ya tengo varios años de venir trabajando en mi genealogía. Siguiendo la línea que va de mi tatarabuela María del Refugio Ruiz de Esparza hasta llegar a Lope Ruiz de Esparza (uno de los primeros pobladores de Aguascalientes) he llegado a familiarizarme con un gran número de personas que vivieron no solo en Aguascalientes, sino en muchos otros pueblos y villas de los Altos de Jalisco y Zacatecas. Todas ellas figuran en mi base de datos, que cuenta con más de 5,000 personas. Como todos sabemos, Aguascalientes ocupó un lugar estratégico en el "Camino de la Plata" durante los siglos 17 y 18, ya que quedaba en la ruta por la que se transportaba ese precioso metal desde las minas de Zacatecas hasta la capital del reino. Empezé buscando a los padres de mi tatarabuela María del Refugio Ruiz de Esparza, y poco a poco fuí encontrando a sus abuelos, bisabuelos, tatarabuelos, etc. etc., tanto en registros parroquiales de Aguascalientes como en los de otras poblaciones cercanas. De esa forma llegué a encontrar a mis octavos bisabuelos Lope Ruiz de Esparza y Ana Francisca Gabai de Moctezuma. Aunque parezca lo contrario, fue difícil encontrar a los padres de mi cuarto bisabuelo Vicente Ruiz de Esparza, ya que yo buscaba a su madre bajo el nombre Josepha de Ulloa, cuando en realidad su nombre completo era Josepha de Iñiguez y Ulloa. De aquí que en algunos registros aparezca su nombre como Josepha de Ulloa y en otros como Josepha de Iñiguez. El enlace para ver mi genealogía es http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15225

El motivo principal de estas líneas es hacerles una pregunta para tratar de aclarar algunas dudas que tengo sobre mi séptimo bisabuelo Bernardo Ruiz de Esparza. Bernardo, hijo de Lope Ruiz de Esparza y Francisca Gabai de Moctezuma, casó el 28 de febrero de 1634 con Catalina Lozano en la Hacienda de Morcenique, propiedad de su padre. Su partida de matrimonio dice textualmente:

"En postrero día del mes de febrero (de 1634) el padre Joan Agustín por commisión mía desposó en la estancia de Lope Ruiz de esparza a bernardo Ruiz de esparza i cathalina lozano, siendo testigos Salvador de Esparza y Christobal Losano."

Será posible que alguno de ustedes sepa a qué se debe el hecho que algunos registros se refieran a Bernardo Ruiz de Esparza como Bernardo Salado? El apellido (o sobrenombre) Salado también se le dió a algunos de sus hijos y nietos, y quizás a otros de sus descendientes. Por ejemplo, su hijo Cristóbal Ruiz de Esparza aparece en algunos registros como Cristóbal Salado, y su nieto Francisco Ruiz de Esparza como Francisco Salado.

Quedaré sumamente agradecido por cualquier información al respecto.

Guillermo Figueroa Strecker

Maureen,
To say that you know Julian was born in San Miguel is a little optimistic, he may or may not have been born in San Miguel. I have found for example for one individual when his children were born and it will say he was from a certain place such as La Estancia and in the birth of one of his other children it will say he was from Tlachichila and the birth of another child will say Monte de Duranes. Take that as a lead but until you find proof you can surmise or guess that he was born in San Miguel.
One other detail is the supposed age. I have one ancestor who had several children and with each child the age listed for him remained the same. My take on that is always to calculate +/- 10 years of age from the age listed in the document. You may have to order the films for San Miguel for the years before 1862 and after 1870.

Take it as a possibility that he was born in San Miguel and then again maybe not. After 3 years of searching for the birth or baptism of my father in-law, I still have not found a birth or baptismal document.

Good Luck,
Alicia in San Jose, Calif

Julian Alviso born 1856 to 1858

I have been in search of my husband's grandparents birth and marriage records. I recently found them on a Valle de Guadalupe baptism of Jose 1/15/1906, son of Juan de Alva and Trinidad Jauregui. Trinidad was my husband's maternal great aunt. It listed Julian Alviso as 40 years old and from San Miguel and Catarina Jaurequi as 28 years old, but I could not read her place of origin. I was unable to print a copy yet as the printing machine in the history center has been out of service. Hopefully when I am able to print a copy, I will be able to read Catarina place of origin with the help of a magnifying glass. Well on with my question. I now know that Julian was born approximately 1865 in San Miguel. The problem is I have gone through the microfilm batch J603298 and Source # 0279429 for San Miguel 1862-1870. I had ordered the film and went though the records by hand individually. There is no Julian Alviso. Julian has a total of six brothers and sisters and all of
them
were ba
ptized at San Miguel El Alto. I have found his sibling's records, but no Julian. I know that Julian and Catarina exist as I have found five of their children and they are listed as sponsors on other baptisms. This is becoming very frustrating. My question is if possibly the microfilm is not a complete record? Also, was there another church in the vicinity of San Miguel El Alto that possibly Julian may have been baptized? Any suggestions on my next step?

My children and I lived in Tijuana for two years so my six children
(ages 1 to 12 when we arrived) could learn Spanish and be immersed in the
culture of their father's side of the family. (My husband came to visit us
two weekends every month; at the time he was a homicide investigator with
our local sheriff's department, and there's no such thing as a two-year
sabbatical -- even if we could have afforded it.)

I read the bulletin posted earlier about the dangers of traveling in
certain parts of Mexico, and Tijuana was listed as a place with a high rate
of crime. We lived near the bullring in Fraccionamiento Escondida; it was
the most wonderful experience of our lives, and the only crime we
experienced was that a sweatshirt hanging on the line to dry disappeared.
Meanwhile, the bicycles we had left in America for safekeeping were stolen.

I always bought bottled water to drink-- still do, as a matter of
fact, but we brushed our teeth from the tap. None of us was ever sick
during our stay -- except for the two littlest ones, who got chicken pox
near the end of our stay.

My mother-in-law worried the entire time that something horrible
would happen, however. Luckily, we ignored her warnings. I say ignore your
relatives, and take a chance. It will be an adventure you'll never forget.

~Deena Ortiz~

I will be heading down to Mexico again in a week. I will be there for a whole week, but a large part of it will be consumed with wedding details of a close cousin of mine.

However, if there is something that someone wants for me to take down or bring back that will not be too cumbersome or troublesome I would be more than glad to oblige. I will be in Guadalajara and my grandparents' town of Villa Guerrero, Jalisco which is very close to Tlaltenango, Zacatecas.

this appeared in the latest Somos Primos newsletter:

*Nuestros Ranchos: Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes
*

Are you researching your ancestors that at sometime lived in or were
from Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes? If you are a
"/Serious/" researcher the http://nuestrosranchos.org group might be
an environment helpful to you. We are a group of about 150 individuals
researching this area and would welcome you if you are willing to abide
by the two simple requirements for membership:

1) State that you are willing to do your own work. There are many groups
on the internet for the "/Casual/" genealogist, but Nuestros Ranchos
is not such a group. By "/Casual/" I mean those that do very little or
nothing to advance their genealogy and are only looking for others to do
the work and then claim it as their own. The "/Casual/" genealogist is
not welcome in the http://nuestrosranchos.org group.

2) Demonstrate your willingness to do your own work by sending in a
small "/representative/" branch of your genealogy tree that shows your
connection to our area of research. [Note: no we are not wanting you to
send it every document you ever discovered or your gedcom or your years
and years of research findings, just a "/representative/" tree. The
group is open to all levels of researchers so if you are just beginning
and really have nothing to submit then we'll accept a short account from
your family's "/Oral History/" that gives you the understanding that
Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes are the states of your genealogy
research].

If you need time to think about membership I would encourage you to go
to the http://nuestrosranchos.org site and read through the extensive
"/Public/" archives. [Note: Submitted genealogies are considered the
copyright protected property of the submitter and are kept in a
"/private to group members only/" area of the group].

any questions or comments? Ask one of the moderators: Arturo Ramos,
Rosalinda Ruiz, Joseph Puentes at Moderator@nuestrosranchos.org

Submitted by MariaCortez on 10 November, 2006 to Nuestros Ranchos
Posted on: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/

"The Library of Congress has a lot of documents, books and manuscripts
on their website. One manuscript of particular interest to this group is
the title in my subject line, written by Mexican lawyer, Matias de la
Mota Padilla in 1742. It is hand-written, but very legible. It contains
a lot of names of people and places dating from the Conquest to 1742 in
Nueva Galicia. The link to the Library of Congress is already in the
links section. You can find the book by clicking on "Collections" and
then browsing through the list of Selections from the National Library
of Spain."

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Somos Primos December 2006 Table of Contents+URL 4lq
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:19:04 -0500 (EST)
From: MIMILOZANO@aol.com
To: MIMILOZANO@aol.com

Click here: Somos Primos: Dedicated to Hispanic Heritage and Diversity
Issues
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2006/spdec06/spdec06.htm

Dear Primos and near Primos. . . .

I would like to dedicate this issue to */Johanna De Soto/*, with the
greatest gratitude for her faithful support, tireless in seeking out
fascinating websites and tidbits of information. She will be missed,
but family lifetime changes have prompted the decision, which I received
sadly. We wish her great joy in her retirement.

This issue completes the 7th year of Somos Primos online, and the 84th
monthly issue fully available on the web. Thank you for your wonderful
letters. They are greatly appreciated. Please feel welcomed to share
in 2007 your family research or articles of interest that you come across.

Wishing you all the warmest wishes for a wonderful Merry Christmas with
the blessings of health and family.

Sincerely, Mimi

TABLE OF CONTENTS, DECEMBER 2006

*United States** *
_National issues_
The Reason for the Season, Christmas 2006
Little Known Letter from Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. to Dr. Hector P. Garcia
Action item: National Museum for the Latino Community
Santa Ana is now nation's largest city with an all-Latino city council
Four Myths About Undocumented Immigrants Dispelled in New University Study
Marriage Is Alive And Well Among Foreign Born* *
Text Messaging Registers Young Latinos
National Museum for the Latino Community < <
Latinos in Congress, 2000 to 2006
_Education_
Family Fact of the Week: Education Pays
Latina PhDs being sought to participate in study:
Chicano Studies Implications: Brown University Slavery & Justice Report
Bringing the Reality of History to the Community
Thomson Gale: Excellent free resources for teachers.
Latino Education: Improving Literacy by Manuel Hernandez
_Culture _
Grandmother/Granddaughter Book Project
Today's Nun Has A Veil--And A Blog
Native Saint: The Amazing Journey of Juan Diego Musical
Film "Guadalupe" to Open in U.S.
Poesía en español - Spanish poetry
Nuestra Family Unida Significiant Women Podcast Project*
*Lowriding Impala in Japan
_Business_ .
Spendor. . new magazine
Family History Employment

*Anti-Spanish Legends *
En México gusta la historia, pero los maestros no saben enseñarla
*
**Military & Law Enforcement Heroes
*Pearl Harbor, December 7th
The 65th Infantry Regiment
Veteran's Day - from a veteran
United States Marshal David Gonzales
Agent Richard F. Morello
Fred Blanco, re-enactor of Cesar Chavez at Fort Irwin, California
One man fights for two countries
The Marine

*Cuentos*
Chapter III The South Side of San Antonio By Sylvia Villarreal
Bisnar / /
Notes from Above Ground, from an Original Chicano by Frank Sifuentes
Big Gobble, No Trouble by Ben Romero

*Literature*
New series, select works of Vicente Riva Palacio, translated by Ted Knight

*Surname*
Fray Gonzalo Hermosillo y Rodriguez
Highly recommended for heraldry research
Julian Nava - The Journey of His Name

*Spanish Sons of American Revolution*
Hispanic in History, American Revolution Re-enactors
The Descendents of Don Antonio de Galvez-y-Carvajal
Lorezno and the Turncoat wins 2006 Arizona Authors Literary Award
Buenos Aires Patriots of the American Revolutionary War, Part 2
*Action Item: *The Lost U.S. Presidents
*Action item:* Honorary Citizenship for Bernardo de Galvez

*Orange County, CA*
December 1 & 2: Navidad in Early California
December 10, Christmas Open House
Theatre For Social Justice Workshop

*Los Angeles, CA *
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Proclamation in El Paso honored Guy Gabladon
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*California*
Heritage Discovery Center
Peña Andaluza, Promoting our Culture in California
San Jose Alcaldes Unveiling
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Angel Island Immigration Station Receives Partners in Preservation Grant
The Invisible Mexicans of Deer Canyon
Sparking an interest in the Past, Ventura County
A Guide to the Juan Bautista de Anza National Historic Trail
Pre1850 Genealogical Research for Alta California
Trip Planned to Basque Country of Spain
Palos Verdes Historic house closer to demolition
The Portuguese of Yuba County

*Southwestern United States*
Naturalization of Mexican Americas by John P. Schmal
Complexities of Gay Marriages on Genealogy
Chilling Encounter in El Paso
Concha Ortiz y Pino de Kleven
Letter to the Editor, The Alburquerque Journal

*Black *
Rep. Lantos introduces bill to preserve post-Civil War Reconstruction
records
The Forks of the Roads
Birthed in a Conundrum: Nathaniel Turner

*Indigenous*
Suquamish Tribe Center and Activities
The Potato Chip
S: Muestra documental "La Palabra Verdadera en maya"
Glass Bridge Construction of the Skywalk

*Sephardic *
Film: The Last Jews of Baghdad - End of an Exile, Beginning of a Journey
S: Judios y Arabes ocultaban sus apellidos
S: Juan Mendez of the Canary Islands
Remnants of Crypto-Jews Among Hispanic Americans, Appendix Part III

*Texas*
Tejano Leadership in Mexican and Revolutionary Times
Laredo's Society of Martha Washington
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Filemon Bartolome Vela, Harlingen, Texas 1935-2004
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True Tales From Another Mexico
Nuestros Ranchos: Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes
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S: Familia Urrutia
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The Descendents of Don Alonso Sanchez de Toledo by John Inclan
The Descendents of Don Juan Francisco Carranza Magana by John Inclan
S:* *Muestran el mundo de Juárez en la intimidad
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Registro Civil de Tamaulipas, Mexico
La Familia de doña Ana de Cuellar por Carlos Martin Herrera de la
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De Lepe (Huelva) (II)

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Don't Believe Everything You Read By DW in USA
Digital Genealogist

*Archaeology *
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*Miscellaneous*
A Different Christmas Poem
Daisy, first civilian Canine to win the Medal of Honor of New York City*
*Baile Chino Espectacular

This is sent as a service, if you prefer not to receive the
notification, please let me known. Thank you. Mimi

My name is Lucy Jennings Sweeney. I have just uploaded the Gedcom for my
maternal line, which is entirely in Jalisco. Thank you, Arturo. Here are
the areas of Jalisco, the family lines, and the ranchos I have found in
my research.

In the Jalostotitlán area - Lozano and Muños lines:
- Eleno Lozano was born on Rancho Rincon de Chavez (San Miguel).
- Salomé Muños was born on Rancho La Estanzuela.
- The Lozano/ Muños children were born on Ranchos El Peñon, La Laguna,
and El Potrero Blanco.

In the Mascota area - Ramírez/ Aréchiga line:
- They lived on Hacienda de Aguacatepec, Hacienda Los Volcanes, and in
Atenguillo.

In the Tecolotlán area – Medina line

In the Puerto Vallarta area – Ramírez/ Medina and Mantecón lines:
- Rancho El Coapinole
All lines converge in Puerto Vallarta in the early 1900’s.

I am excited about working with a group that has so much knowledge about
genealogy in this part of México. You are willing to share tips and
sources with beginners like me.

George Farias at Borderlands books is now distributing Esteban Valdes' books. For any of you who have roots in Totatiche or have Valdes or Jara from southern Zacatecas in your lineages, the books are invaluable. His books include:

HISTORIA DE LA PARROQUIA DE TOTATICHE, 250 Aniversario
HISTORIA DE TOTATICHE
HISTORIA DE TOTATICHE, TOMO II
LOS JARA DE TOTATICHE (in collaboration with L.C. Maurilio Valdés y Jara)
LOS VALDES DE TOTATICHE, Edicion 2000

You can find all of the books by gong to the following website and typing "Totatiche" in the search field:

http://www.borderlandsbooks.com

Joseph Puentes wrote: Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:07:32 -0500
From: Joseph Puentes
To: agustin mota
Subject: Re: my family tree

Agustin resend this message to the groups not the Moderator address. Anything to do with genealogy of our area should be sent to:

research@nuestrosranchos.org

thanks,

joseph

if it is an announcement not related to our research area send the message to: announce@nuestrosranchos.org

or if it is a general message about genealogy but not about our area then to: general@nuestrosranchos.org

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

agustin mota wrote: Hello my name is Agustin Mota I am a new member.I am just starting my search At the same time learning to use the computer.Hear is what iknow at this time.My father was born in La Capilla Jalisco his name was Juan Antonio Mota Alvares. My grandfatherwas born in Los aguajes Jalisco.His name was Vicente Mota Raigosa. Mygreat grandfather his name was Agustin Mota Hererra. On my mothers side, My grandfathers name wasAscencion Luna he was born in Los Lunas Zacatecas. My grandmothers name was Clemencia Zuniga she was born in Jeres Zacatecas. I was told that my last name Mota was origionaly ( DE LA MOTTA) AS you can see i am just getting started . I have aquierd a book which i found in Zacatecas Zacatecas on local history of Momax titeld ( Momax Y La Partida D Tlaltenango)That is al thank you Agustin Mota born in Tlaltenago in 1956

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Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

I've done it again.. always misplacing things!

Joseph or Arturo, I submitted my Mendez family genealogy file but now I can't find it in my file.. can you locate it for me since I must have put it somewhere it doesn't belong?

Thank you, Linda in Everett

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez
Date: 27-nov-2006 16:18
Subject: [Genealogia.org.mx] 7800 Re: 7391 Navarro Gaytán. Para José de
Loza.
To: Genealogia-Mexico@googlegroups.com

Hola a todos:

He iniciado correspondencia electronica con El Dr. en Derecho Don
Mariano Gonzalez Leal de la Cd. de Leon, Gto., autor del libro
"Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia", cuya segunda edicion
considerablemente aumentada, ya que en tentantiva seran 10 tomos
o mas, y que segun la informacion de Don Mariano esta preparando
y espera imprimirla a fines del 2007 o inicios del 2008, le comente
sobre las inquietudes de los Navarro Gaytan y esto fue lo que me
contesto al respecto,y lo comparto con ustedes:

-----------------------------------

No se han localizado las dispensas Navarro - de la Torre en el Archivo del
Episcopado. Deben estar en la parte de las cajas que tenìa aparte el Padre
Eucario y que todavía no son abiertas.
La documentación relativa al matrimonio Navarro - Orozco está en el Archivo
del Provisorato Michoacano, en la Casa de Morelos de Morelia. No la tengo.
Le puedo decir, sin embago, por otras fuentes, que don Luis fue el segundo
hijo del matrimonio; que nació en 1663; y que su matrimonio con doña Isabel
de Orozco y Villarroel ocurrió en 1683.
Esta doña Isabel nació en Zamora en 1671; fue hija de Juan Maciel-Blancarte
y Orozco del Castillo, originario de Tangancícuaro, y de doña Ana de Piña,
nacida en Tangancícuaro en 1628. Abuelos paternos: Álvaro Maciel y doña
Isabel Orozco del Castillo; maternos, Melchor de Valencia y Piña y doña
Juana de Peña.
En mi obra en preparación hallará usted otros datos sobre estas familias.
Le mando un cordial saludo,
Mariano González-Leal.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ya vi el archivo anexo, lo llenare, pero indiquenme a quien se lo
envio de regreso.

Saludos desde Guadalajara:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez.
2006/11/27, José De Loza :
>
> Jorge
> Benicio
> Envio el archivo con mis datos, ya modifique el archivo indice que
> mencionabas y puse mis datos.
>
> Saludos a todos
> Jose de Loza
>
> El día 24/11/06, Jorge Hernÿffffe1ndez
> escribió:
> >
> > Sobre La hoja de direcciones sugiero que se la enviemos a Benicio y una
> > capia a todos, pero sin subirla con domicilios y teléfonos, sólo los
> > nombres.
> > Gabriel H S
> >
> > *Jorge Hernÿffffe1ndez *escribió:
> >
> > José :
> > Qué bueno que te intereses. Te sugiero que bajes el archivo Propuesta
> > de Indice - Excel_ Lle borres mis datos y los subas con los tuyos.
> > Saludos. Gabriel
> >
> > *José De Loza < deloza@gmail.com>* escribió:
> >
> > Gabriel
> > me parece muy buena tu idea y sí, tambien estoy interesado.
> > salñudos
> > Jose de Loza
> > Tomas Alejandro, creo por alli habia leido algo de los valdivia.
> > Te anoto algo en lo que tengo dudas.
> > es sobre:
> > Margarita Romero de Valdivia (1647)
> > hija de Pedro Valdivia(1623) e Ines Lopez (1627)
> > pedro Valdivia (1623)
> > hijo de Hernando de Valdivia (1596) y Agueda de Torres (1600)
> > Hernando de Valdivia (1596)
> > Hijo de Pedro de Valdivia(1555) Y Maria Gutierrez
> > pero en un registro encuentro un dato de este Pedro de Valdivia (1555)
> > casado con Catalina Bravo y Sanchez, de Badajoz, España
> >
> >
> > si estos son los mismos entonces:
> > Pedro de Valdivia (1555) es hijo de:
> > Pedro Gutierrez de Valdivia (1513) y Maria Gutierrez donoso (1525)
> > Pedro Gutierrez Valdivia (1513) es hijo de:Diego Gonzalez e Ines
> > Gonzalez
> > Diego Gutierrez de Valdivia (1490) y Leonor Gonzalez (1491) hija de
> > Diego Gutierrez de Valdivia (1490) es hijo de:
> > Pedro Gutierrez de Valdivia (1470) y Mis hernandez
> > Pedro Gutierrez de Valdivia (1470) es hijo de:
> > Pedro Gutierrez de Valdivia(1440) y Maria Diaz (1440) hija de Alvaro
> > Diaz
> > Pedro Gutierrez de Valdivia(1440) es hijo de:
> > Hernando Valdivia y Aguilera (1420) y Gila Gutierrez (1418)
> > Hernando Valdivia y Aguilera (1420) hijo de:
> > Pedro Ruiz de Valdivia (1390) y Mencia Ramirez de Aguilera (1398)
> > Pedro Ruiz de Valdivia (1390) hijo de:
> > Mencia Ramirez de Aguilera (1398) hija de Alonso Gonzalez de Aguilera y
> > Maria de Quero la Buesa
> > Luis Ruiz de Valdivia (1358) y Beatriz Gonzalez de Guzman
> > Luis Ruiz de Valdivia (1358) hijo de:
> > Alonso Ruiz de Valdivia(1326) y Leonor de Guzman
> >
> >
> >
> > El día 24/11/06, Jorge Hernÿffffe1ndez
> > escribió:
> > >
> > > Subí a Grupo de Genealogía la propuesta que hago de un indice regional
> > > para los que andamos buscando en la regiòn de la Rivera, Altos y Bajío.
> > > A Tomás, Enrique , Jorge y otros les pido que me den su opiniòn,
> > > Gabriel de Morelia
> > >
> > > *José De Loza < deloza@gmail.com>* escribió:
> > >
> > > Jorge Luis
> > > so lo que he revisado y de los datos de que Pedro Navarro Gaytan y
> > > Maria Margarita de Ornelas Aveces estan emparentados, seria mas o menos de
> > > la siguiente forma:
> > > Jospeh Navarro Gaytan (Joseph navarro Orosco hermanos
> > > Pedro Navarro Gaytan (Pedro Joseph Navarro Orozco) casado
> > > en 1720 con Petronila Gutierrez
> > > viudo
> > > Casado en 1723 con Maria Ornelas Aceves
> > >
> > > hijo de Luis Navarro Gaytan (1663) e Ysabel de Orozco
> > >
> > > Luis Navarro Gaytan
> > > hijo de Pedro Navarro Gaytan (1637) casado en 1658 con Catarina
> > > Gonzalez de Hermosillo (1637)
> > >
> > > Pedro Navarro Gaytan(1637) hijo de
> > > Pedro Navarro Gaytan(1593) Y Maria Cabrera(1596)
> > >
> > > Catarina Gonzalez de Hermosillo(1637) hija de Juan Gonzalez de
> > > Hermosillo y Ana Gonzalez Florida
> > >
> > > Pedro Navarro Gaytan81593)
> > > hijo de Mateo Navarro Y Geronima Briseño Gaitan
> > >
> > >
> > > por el otro lado yo tengo lo siguiente
> > >
> > > Mateo Navarro (1693) ocotlan casado con Mencia Aveces
> > > Hijo de Matheo Navarro y Catalina de la Mora
> > >
> > > Este otro Mateo Navarro no se si es Mateo Navarro Gaytan de 1642 hijo
> > > de Pedro Navarro Gaytan 1593 y Maria Cabrera o es uno intemedio
> > > con lo que margarita Ornelas descienda de los aceves casados
> > > emparentados con los Navarro
> > >
> > >
> > > parece interesante
> > > Tal vez Alguien pueda aclararlo, de cualquier maner tambien preguntaré
> > > este dato a Hugo
> > >
> > > Saludos
> > > Jose de Loza
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > El día 26/10/06, Ramírez < georgio_2386@hotmail.com > escribió:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Muchas gracias por tu ayuda, espero y seguir en contacto con tigo.
> > > >
> > > > Saludos.
> > > > Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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Saludos desde Guadalajara:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez

I'm looking for my great 4x grandfather Eugenio del Camino born around 1836 but I cant find him. He was born in Huanusco, Zacatecas, Mexico any information is appreciated. Thanks

thanks to Enrique Legaspi for the translation:

*Aquellos miembros nuevos no deben de preocuparse con esto; la razon es
que ya reuni su "arbol representativo" el cual enseña su respectiva
conexion a la region de nuestra investigacion: Jalisco, Zacatecas y
Aguascalientes.*

*Por el momento existen 175 miembros con solo 105 geneologias remitidas,
esto da razon a que aquellos miembros sin remitir su geneologia personal
deben de hacerlo lo mas rapido que sea posible, ya que la fecha critica
del 31 de Enero 2007 pronto llegara. En este fecha empezare anular su
calidad de miembro con la **excepción de los miembros que han actuado de
la siguiente manera:***

1) Correspondido con moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
solicitando una extension más
allá del 31 de Enero 2007 para remitir su *"arbol representativo"**. El
correo electronico debe de contener el tiempo explicito necesario de la
extension solicitada.

**En el caso que usted sea nuevo a la investigacion con muy poco o nada
que pueda remitir, entonces podra cumplir con el requisito enviando un
breve escrito de la "historia oral familiar" que indique la relacion de
sus raices a Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes.*

*2) Enviar a **moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
** un correo electronico con su
"arbol representativo" que explique su conexion a Jalisco, Zacatecas o
Aguascalientes. [Aclaración: Su archivo "gedcom" no es necesario; ni
copias de cualquier documento descubierto o su trabajo geneologica en su
totalidad, solo un "arbol representativo" que enseñe su relación a la
region]*

*Por favor no espere hasta el ultimo momento -- es urgente. Envieme por
correo electronico para formar su "carpeta de archivo" disponible
exclusivamente a "solo miembros".*

joseph
moderator@nuestrosranchos.org

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

thanks to Enrique Legaspi for the translation:

*Aquellos miembros nuevos no deben de preocuparse con esto; la razon es
que ya reuni su "arbol representativo" el cual enseña su respectiva
conexion a la region de nuestra investigacion: Jalisco, Zacatecas y
Aguascalientes.*

*Por el momento existen 175 miembros con solo 105 geneologias remitidas,
esto da razon a que aquellos miembros sin remitir su geneologia personal
deben de hacerlo lo mas rapido que sea posible, ya que la fecha critica
del 31 de Enero 2007 pronto llegara. En este fecha empezare anular su
calidad de miembro con la **excepción de los miembros que han actuado de
la siguiente manera:***

1) Correspondido con moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
solicitando una extension más
allá del 31 de Enero 2007 para remitir su *"arbol representativo"**. El
correo electronico debe de contener el tiempo explicito necesario de la
extension solicitada.

**En el caso que usted sea nuevo a la investigacion con muy poco o nada
que pueda remitir, entonces podra cumplir con el requisito enviando un
breve escrito de la "historia oral familiar" que indique la relacion de
sus raices a Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes.*

*2) Enviar a **moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
** un correo electronico con su
"arbol representativo" que explique su conexion a Jalisco, Zacatecas o
Aguascalientes. [Aclaración: Su archivo "gedcom" no es necesario; ni
copias de cualquier documento descubierto o su trabajo geneologica en su
totalidad, solo un "arbol representativo" que enseñe su relación a la
region]*

*Por favor no espere hasta el ultimo momento -- es urgente. Envieme por
correo electronico para formar su "carpeta de archivo" disponible
exclusivamente a "solo miembros".*

joseph
moderator@nuestrosranchos.org

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

thanks to Enrique Legaspi for the translation:

*Aquellos miembros nuevos no deben de preocuparse con esto; la razon es
que ya reuni su "arbol representativo" el cual enseña su respectiva
conexion a la region de nuestra investigacion: Jalisco, Zacatecas y
Aguascalientes.*

*Por el momento existen 175 miembros con solo 105 geneologias remitidas,
esto da razon a que aquellos miembros sin remitir su geneologia personal
deben de hacerlo lo mas rapido que sea posible, ya que la fecha critica
del 31 de Enero 2007 pronto llegara. En este fecha empezare anular su
calidad de miembro con la **excepción de los miembros que han actuado de
la siguiente manera:***

1) Correspondido con moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
solicitando una extension más
allá del 31 de Enero 2007 para remitir su *"arbol representativo"**. El
correo electronico debe de contener el tiempo explicito necesario de la
extension solicitada.

**En el caso que usted sea nuevo a la investigacion con muy poco o nada
que pueda remitir, entonces podra cumplir con el requisito enviando un
breve escrito de la "historia oral familiar" que indique la relacion de
sus raices a Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes.*

*2) Enviar a **moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
** un correo electronico con su
"arbol representativo" que explique su conexion a Jalisco, Zacatecas o
Aguascalientes. [Aclaración: Su archivo "gedcom" no es necesario; ni
copias de cualquier documento descubierto o su trabajo geneologica en su
totalidad, solo un "arbol representativo" que enseñe su relación a la
region]*

*Por favor no espere hasta el ultimo momento -- es urgente. Envieme por
correo electronico para formar su "carpeta de archivo" disponible
exclusivamente a "solo miembros".*

joseph
moderator@nuestrosranchos.org

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

Figen and I have been married since 1995. . .not a real long time but
sort of. Anyway it's amazing how she and I think alike at times and at
the same time.

I had been thinking something this morning and she just piped in with
the same thought and I wanted to share it with you as it is about a
Nuestros Ranchos Member: John Robles and his group: El Son del Pueblo
(http://www.elsondelpueblo.com/).

Figen and I are having company later today and also next weekend. So
that means doing a clean up which usually means me doing the Kitchen and
my messed up desk and She does the lion's share of other areas though we
often split the bathrooms. . . .hmmm, I have gotten off the subject.

so anyway as we clean usually she says "why is there no music?" so today
I beat her to the punch and said "why is there no music?" and she said
she was thinking the same thing.

Now I don't like over doing my listening of any one thing to much so
after listening to 75% of the tracks of John Robles CD
(http://cdbaby.com/cd/esdp) when I first got it awhile back I thought it
would be in order to give the CD another listen while we cleaned. Well I
was soooooo enjoying it and then in one of the tracks either John or
Jorge Mijangos sang out something like "el pueblo mas bonito, Santa
Paula" and it brought back memories of my Dad who was born in Santa
Paula and Mom who worked there and they were married there and started
their family their. But as the CD played on I just kept marveling that
it just kept on "staying good" track after track. So then I'm thinking
that and suddenly Figen chimed in "I really like that music." Wow. She
is from Turkey and has no reason to like something Mexican other than it
being good and this Music is good especially if you like the Veracruz
folk harp (arpa jarocha). . .hard not to dance around listening to it.

John and I have been talking about him doing an Audio presentation for
the http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com podcast project on the History of the
music style he plays from Veracruz.

Just wanted to give others my feed back that this music is definitely
worth adding to your collection (and no I'm not on the payroll or a
stock holder, neither did I get a discount or a percentage).

have a listen,

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

I am now quite at home by-the-sea in San Francisco.

I updated my email address but still have not received any emailings from our group:(

I was SHOCKED to find out that there is no Family History Center in San Francisco! Only one on Pacific that is open by appointment only.

Even worse, there is no Home Depot, and no 99 centavos Only stores.

How am I supposed to get my new apartment building on its feet without Home Depot?

I made a major genealogical break through. A stranger from Corpus Christi emailed me. He told me his own (Jurado) grandmother left him a box full of letters and old documents, and recipes from someone named Maria del Rayo Caballero.

From the content of the documents and civil filings he concluded Maria del Rayo Caballero was a wealthy woman, and his grandmother might have worked for her.

Then he found my maternal website. The first time he knew who Maria del Rayo Caballero was.

My ggggrandmother who was born around 1782. Not only did he have her correspondence, but her picture! I never dreamed there could be a photo of any of my relatives that far back, seven generations. She was born before photography, but in her old age lived into that era.

He went on to tell me the recipes were written in her own hand, dozens of them, dated in the 1830s, in beautiful, perfectly legible script, with a notation that these recipes were cooked in her kitchen.

Of course he never gave me so much as a recipe for frijoles!
He says he's going to publish a book based on my family recipes, which is just fine. I had hoped to share them with you here. But if I have to buy a copy I will be glad to!

He also told me that he has a novena card of hers dated 1802 with the prayers she recited as a child.

But his nudge encouraged me to further research Maria del Rayo Caballero.
I was able to push my ancestry through her all the way back to Cristobal Caballero and Ana de Pena who were born in Cordoba, Spain around the 1630s.

I almost feel like I knew Maria del Rayo Caballero. I feel a deep affection for her.