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Hello everyone, my name is Alejandra Araujo. I have done a ton of research on most branches of my family history. Currently, I would like to ask if anyone has any further information on the Araujo family around southern Zacatecas in Griegos, Luis Moya, and Ojocaliente. They seemed to marry with the Oballe family which has all kinds of different spellings (Obaye/Ubaye/Ovalle/Uvalle). Here is the farthest back I've been able to go through the Araujo branch:

NARCISO ARAUJO born abt. 1800 married to CANDELARIA LOPEZ HERNANDEZ born abt. 1805

Children of NARCISO ARAUJO and CANDELARIA LOPEZ HERNANDEZ:

i. MARIA DOLORES ARAUJO born abt. 1825
ii. JOSE LEANDRO born in 1829
iii. MIGUEL ARAUJO born abt. 1835
iv. ROSALIO ARAUJO born abt. 1840

ROSALIO ARAUJO born abt. 1840 married to FRANCISCA OBALLE born abt. 1830

Children of ROSALIO ARAUJO and FRANCISCA OBALLE:

i. JUAN ARAUJO born abt. 1851
ii. CATARINO ARAUJO born abt. 1858
iii. HIPOLITA ARAUJO born abt. 1861

CATARINO ARAUJO born abt. 1858 in Griegos, Zacatecas married ROMULA MEZA on 3 June 1877 in Ojocalientes, Zacatecas. ROMULA MEZA was born abt. 1861.

Children of CATARINO ARAUJO and ROMULA MEZA:

i. JULIANA ARAUJO born on 20 December 1880 in Luis Moya, Zacatecas
ii. PLUTARCA ARAUJO born on 27 June 1882 in Ojocaliente, Zacatecas
iii. FRANCISCO ARAUJO born abt. 1885, died in 1888
iv. FERNANDO ARAUJO born on 30 May 1888 in Griegos, Zacatecas
v. FAUSTINO ARAUJO born and died in 1890
vi. AGAPITA ARAUJO born on 20 September 1891 in Luis Moya, Zacatecas

I hit a dead end once I get to Narciso and Candelaria. If anyone has any info on them, please do share. I look forward to working with you all on here.

Sincerely,

Alejandra Araujo

https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/dalejandra

^Here is info I have of the Castros in Jalisco and Aguascalientes.

One of our brick walls is Manuel de Lizalde. He is in my tree on Ancestry at https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/27355561/person/2049287080/facts The surname has many variant spellings: Lisalde, Lisarde, Lizarde, Elizalde (which is the actual original name in Basque) - with and without the "de".

The earliest record for him is his 19 Feb 1697 marriage at Cuquio, Jalisco, with Maria de Robalcava. It shows his mother are Cathalina de Carbaxal but does not show his father. The m,arriage record is at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18455-52689-9 

While his records are at the church in Cuquio, they actually lived south of Yahualica at los Ranchos de Apozol. So, Cuquio was not where they actually lived and is well south of where they lived.

I went page by page through all the Cuquio baptisms from about 1680 back to about 1660, and he was not among those baptisms.

I am working my way back through the Nochistlan baptisms now but have not yet found him, although there is a good way yet to go.

Does anyone have solid records for him before the 1697 marriage? Is there any record that names his father?

 

Buenos días.

Estoy trabajando actualmente en un libro sobre los Sotelo debido a que tengo la correcta filiación de Diego Arias de Sotelo gracias a unos documentos no digitalizados de la Real Chancillería de Valladolid que permiten recrear el cuadro familiar.

Es de conocimiento general que Diego Arias de Sotelo fue hijo de Antonio de Sotelo y de Uzenda Núñez Vela pero en varios sitios se confunde a su padre Antonio con el conquistador de mismo nombre y apellido que falleció en 1548 en las Indias.

El padre de Diego Arias de Sotelo fue el capitán Antonio de Sotelo que es descrito como hidalgo principal de San Miguel de la Ribera y hermano del bachiller Luis de Sotelo, vecino de Zamora y alcalde mayor del conde de Alba de Liste, y del capitán Andrés de Sotelo -alcalde de la Santa Hermandad- que casó con Guiomar de Herrezuelo, vecinos de Aldea del Palo. (Uno de los hermanos de Diego Arias de Sotelo se llamó Andrés, me refiero al capitán Andrés Núñez Vela de Sotelo, nombrado así por su tío).

Los abuelos de Diego Arias de Sotelo se llamaron Diego de Sotelo "el viejo" y Juana. Este último Diego de Sotelo fue "hidalgo de buena casta" y estaba presente en las juntas de hidalgos de la iglesia de Santa María la Nueva. Esta rama es la correcta.

El conquistador fue hijo de Pedro de Sotelo y de Inés de Cisneros quien era nieto a su vez de Lope de Sotelo. Esta rama no le corresponde a Diego Arias de Sotelo.

Diego de Sotelo "el viejo" fue hermano de Lope de Sotelo y ambos eran hijos de Luis de Sotelo -alcaide de Torrelobatón- e Isabel. Es decir, Pedro de Sotelo casado con Isabel de Cisneros, era primo hermano de Antonio de Sotelo casado con Uzenda Núñez Vela.

Espero terminar pronto para poner a disposición esta información encontrada con los árboles genealógicos correspondientes y que aclara muchas cosas de los Sotelo.

Un saludo,

Erik Andrés Reynoso.

Some information in a marriage record was posted on http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/22981?page=2. Could this Diego Hurtado de Mendoza and Maria Lerma be related to Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza?

Rick A Ricci

At this point, our family is descended from almost every child of Simon Báez (c1630-1659) and Maria de la Cerda (c1633-aft1690).

Our most recently discovered Báez ancestor is Ignacio Báez de la Cerna:

1st generation - Ignacio Báez de la Cerna (c1658-????) cc Juana Gutiérrez de Mendoza (c1661-????)

2nd generation - and then Ignacio and Juana's son, Francisco Báez (c1680-1702) cc  24 Aug 1701 to Catalina/Catharina de Salazer alias Beloso/Veloso, daughter of Antonio Beloso de Sotomayor and Teresa de Salazar, all Espanoles.

But who is Teresa de Salazar?

Happy New Year To All!,

Did we ever get to the bottom of the origin of Francisco Magdaleno/Madaleno cc Elvira de Mendoza? If not, I may have found another clue in the recently released treasure trove of the Morelia archives:

Petricion de Gonzalo Fernandez de Abrego para recibir herencia de su madre - Beatriz de Talavera. (Morelia - 1602)

In this petition we find out that Gonzalo is the son of Andres Fernandez de Abrego cc Beatriz de Talavera. Furthermore, we have testimony from a couple of interesting witnesses: Francisco Magdaleno, who declares that he's the uncle of Gonzalo. This given that Gonzalo is the son of his sister Beatriz de Talavera!. Furthermore, we have another testimony from Geronimo Magdaleno de Mendoza who testifies that he's a "primo hermano" to Gonzalo. This would be the same Geronimo who was the son of Francisco cc Elvira de Mendoza. 

I think this is a very interesting clue into the origins of the Magdalenos/Madalenos of Michoacan and Jalisco. In looking for more clues on Beatriz de Talavera, I found mentions of her being married to a Lic. Pedro de Villafranca, I assume before/after her marriage to Andres Fernandez de Abrego? Does anyone have any additional clues on Beatriz de Talavera or the Magdalenos for that matter? 

Thank You,

Daniel Serna Valencia

Hello and Happy New Year!

I have a question: when someone is called "criollo" in colonial records it usually implies they are born in Mexico from two Spanish parents, correct?

Is this a hard rule? Why would someone be called both mestizo and criollo in the same record? Because he is the son of one parent who was born in Spain, perhaps?

Cristóbal de Santoyo alias Pérez, "mestiso soltero i criollo," probable, but unproven, son of Juan de Santoyo alias Pérez (possibly Spanish) and Antonia de Villegas alias Mendoza (noted as mestiza in multiple sources), both of Lagos. Cristóbal de Santoyo alias Pérez married June 1, 1668 to Ana Burgeño, daughter of Ysidro de Araujo and Beatris Burgeño alias López, in Santa Maria de los Lagos.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5RG-Y

My Spanish isn't proficient enough to understand the entire record - especially the notation in the margin. Would someone please look at it and translate or explain the record for me. This could be a game-changer for our tree. Cristobal's probable parents are our ancestors several times over - we are descended from many of the grandchildren of Juan de Santoyo alias Pérez and Antonia de Villegas alias Mendoza.

Thank you,

Travis

A few years back the website was a crossroads and the future looked dim. The site was down and Rosalinda Ruiz took the bull by the horns and organized the Nuestros Ranchos WorkGroup (Many thanks Rosalinda). Via that group a small group of individuals formed the Tech Group: Lee, Rosalinda, Wesley, Arturo and I but above and beyond the Tech Group was spearheaded by our Elite Webmaster Lee Ingram (Muchisimas!!!). Anyway as a result of the larger Workgroup a fund raising effort was started and with the help of 26 members a total of $776.24 was collected. Since 2021 when the site was revived Lee Ingram has been working tirelessly to get the site up and keep it up to date. During that time Lee had certain expenses with the work and just recently I was able to reimburse him for out of pocket monies spent and to pay forward for the webhosting and domain registration (Lee could explain it better). Anyway this email is to say that the approximate $800 was well spent for the past 4 years as well as covering out of pocket monies through approximately February 2031. If you get a chance to thank Lee please feel free to overwhelm him. Thanks go as well to our past Webmaster who for years carried the group on his shoulder, Arturo!

Now it might seem like 2031 is 6 years away (well it is and 6 years will go by in a flash). We currently have approximately 1000 members. Imagine if each one chipped in $1. Please don’t send me money as the Workgroup needs to do some work on WHERE future fund raising money should go. Maybe we need an elected Treasurer. I’m not sure how that works, we’ll see. Just wanted you all to think about the future of the NR group. For now we’re good but the future is well coming soon

Joseph Puentes

¡Saludos a todos! Me llamo Jonathan Mendoza y soy servidor de todos ustedes me apasiona la búsqueda de los antepasados personalmente mi meta es descubrir mi pasado judio sefardi y saber de que parte de españa vinieron mis antepasados de apellido ruiz de los cobos 

He llegado hasta este punto a base de documentos y de la ayuda que me han brindado unos buenos familiares y amigos mios que menciono por nombre (Jesus Mendoza y Aaron Mendoza) ellos y su servidor tenemos los mismos antepasados en comun sigo en la búsqueda de mas documentos que revelen otros detalles aunque se ha vuelto mas difícil entre mas retrocedo en el tiempo 

En cualquier caso sigo adelante y si en algo puedo ayudarles con todo gusto lo haré muchas gracias por haberme aceptado 

https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/JonathanMendoza1998

Following the hypothesis that Isabel de Mendoza, wife of Toribio Hernández de Arellano, was a native (chichimeca?), I would like to leave this note for the benefit of future research. 

The proposition of a native origin for Isabel de Mendoza is not new, it predates the publication of Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia. This possibility was suggested by Mariano González-Leal during a private dinner at his house, years before Retoños was published. It is crucial to emphasize that this remains a speculative theory and no proof has been found. It is based on the following:

1. Strategic. A marital alliance between a spaniard like the mayor Toribio Hernández de Arellano and an indigenous woman, particularly one of cacique lineage, would have been a strategic asset in the region of Santa María de los Lagos. This area was situated on a volatile frontier (frontera de chichimecas), and such unions could have been a method of securing alliances with indios amigos or indios de paz, thereby stabilizing a notoriously dangerous territory.
2. Onomastic evidence. The surname "de Mendoza" was conferred upon several caciques and their family members during the viceroyalty of Don Antonio de Mendoza (1535-1550). Isabel de Mendoza's estimated birth date falls within this period, and Viceroy Mendoza was physically present in Nueva Galicia in 1542, a plausible context for her baptism and the bestowal of the surname.

An alternative, though chronologically-challenging hypothesis must also be acknowledged. My dear friend, the Mexican diplomat Jorge A. Fuentes Méndez—to whom, along with Guillermo Tovar de Teresa and Mariano González-Leal, I owe my early training in genealogy decades ago—provided me an extensive list of documented Mendozas from the period. This list included the family of Francisco de Mendoza (son of Comendador Diego de Mendoza and Isabel Segura) and his wife Beatriz de Montoya. This family, including their children Pedro de Mendoza, Isabel de Mendoza, Leonor de Montoya, and Juana Ruiz, emigrated to New Spain in 1536 (Archivo General de Indias, CONTRATACION, 5536, L.4, F.38R(5)) PARES | Archivos Españoles. The fate of this particular Isabel de Mendoza is unknown, and she remains a candidate. However, a significant chronological issue exists, as she was likely born around 1530 or earlier.

Best regards.

Erik Andrés Reynoso y Márquez.

Hola primos y primas,

In my lines I have Diego Delgado and Isabel de Islas Martinez Lozano, married 22 Feb 1637 in Aguascalientes. She was daughter of Cristobal Martinez Lozano and Maria de Islas. They’d live on Pendencia in Sierra de Pinos, I have them with four offspring:

1. Baltasar Delgado, m. Petronila Niño
2. Maria de Islas, m. Diego de Guzman y Rivera
3. Juan Delgado, m. Anna Gonzalez de Rubalcava
4. Francisco Delgado, m1. Petra Martin Chavez, m2. Juana Delgado y Valenzuela.

Diego Delgado died sometime before 1671, probably in Pinos, and Isabel de Islas Martinez Lozano died in Charcas, SLP, and was buried 16 Jul 1676. Her albaceas were her son, Baltasar and Juan, both who lived in Charcas.

I know Diego Delgado had an older brother named Juan Delgado, who also lived on Pendencia, born around 1604-1607.

Question: are they sons of Diego Delgado and Juana Diaz? Their son, Juan Delgado (m1. Juana Rivera, m2. Maria de Vargas), would have been the same age as Diego Delgado’s older brother. (whose signature I have, but none appears on Juan Delgado-Diaz's 1669 dispensa, to compare).

Anyone know anything?

Gracias y saludos,
Manny Diez Hermosillo

Good morning,

I figured as a new recent member I could pose my first question (many more to follow haha) and be hopeful that someone can shed some light on a roadblock.

My inquiry involves my ancestors Pedro Muñoz and Maria Gonzales, married in 1672 in Lagos de Moreno. Unfortunately the matrimonio record does not list the pretensos parents names nor have I ever encounter the información matrimonial.

I have located the baptisms of 7 children.

After letting this line sit for a while I went on familysearch where individuals have designated
-Pedro Muñoz as the son of Nicolás Muñoz de Jerez and Ana Josefa Gómez de Portugal

Maria Gonzales as the daughter of Francisco Gonzales de Hermosillo and Francisca de Torres

This baffles me, since I can only draw 2 conclusions to connect Nicolás Muñoz de Jerez as Pedro’s father
1. The madrina of Pedro and Maria’s son Miguel (born 1683) was Mariana Muñoz (well documented daughter of Nicolás Muñoz de Jerez)
2. Some of Pedro’s grandchildren (children of his sons) are listed with the full surname of “Muñoz de Jerez”

I however can draw other conclusions why it may not be true since
1. Nicolás Muñoz de Jerez and Ana Josefa Gómes de Portugal were married in Sept 1658 - this tree on family search has no sources but claims Pedro was born 1660, meaning he would be around 12 years old marrying in 1672 (although could work, since their first child was born 3 years later in 1675, he would be ~15)
2. My Pedro Muñoz, Maria Gonzales, and all the children were documented as “mestizos” when clearly Nicolás Muñoz de Jerez and Ana Josefa are always listed as “españoles” (although Pedro’s grandchildren -the ones who all began utilizing Muñoz de Jerez” are all listed as “españoles”

The 1669 padrón for Lagos does not show any household of Nicolás Muñoz de Jerez (which I have documental evidence that his family were residents of León, Guanajuato around this time period)

The 1676 padrón for Lagos the household of Nicolás Muñoz de Jerez is present -sans any Pedro in the household- but is of essentially no help since by 1676 Pedro is already married with a child.

I suppose has anyone ever come across any other documental proof of Nicolás Muñoz de Jerez having a son named Pedro? Perhaps a will/testimony? Any land grants? Anything essentially with mentioning of children or possessions. Or is my Pedro not even of this family.

I took the initiative to message the profile that posted this ancestry and the user didn’t address nothing other than the fact that he was banned from genealogical groups and went on a rant about how everyone disputes his information, how unfairly he is treated blah blah blah.

In any event this line intrigues me greatly since Pedro and Maria are twice my ancestors. And is also of great interest since many of my ancestors for multi generations on other lines were part of the Muñoz de Jerez family’s ownership.

Any help or guidance is appreciated

Greetings,

A recent forum topic (separate thread) that was sorting out the various Christoval Lozano's prompted me to revisit the parentage of Juana Lozano, who was married to Diego Reynoso y Renteria.

Christoval Reynoso y Renteria was a son of Diego Reynoso y Renteria and Juana Lozano.  Christoval Reynoso y Renteria did leave marriage information in both his marriages, the first in 1735 (to Gertrudis Flores de la Torre, and the last in 1741 (to Anna Maria Gonzalez de Rubalcava).  

In his 1741 marriage to Anna Maria Gonzalez de Rubalcava he was noted as the widow of Gertrudis Flores de la Torre. It was also noted in this record that he was the son of Diego de Reynoso and Juana Lozano. The 1741 marriage information record (Mezquital del Oro) provided the relations between earlier Rubalcava family members (Matias and Joseph Rubalcava),  which are all noted at the following record:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15212-19282-45?cc=1804458

Besides the 2nd marriage information listed above, it was also known that Christoval Reynoso y Renteria and Maria Gertrudis Flores de la Torre were dispensed in 1735, as shown in the index at the following record:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9S9-WZ1R?cc=1937239

The issue with the 1735 marriage dispensation was that it could not be found. This was "partially solved".

Christoval Reynoso's mother (Juana Lozano y Flores de la Torre) had always been a mystery until recently, when her parentage was revealed in misfiled tronco's found in a December 1734 Monclova (Coahuila) marriage dispensation record for Juan Menchaca and Maria Sapopa Flores y Valdes. 

This is still not a complete marriage dispensation, but to Juchipila area researchers, the misfiled tronco's provide the parentage of Juana Lozano y Flores de la Torre, and hopefully can fill in a few gaps to the the Juchipila based Christoval Lozano family.

The tronco's are as follows:

Tronco 1:
Cathalina Moscoso Sandoval and Maria Moscoso Sandoval were sisters.
Maria Moscoso Sandoval was the mother of Christoval Lozano, who was the father of Juana Lozano, who was the mother of Christoval Reynoso y Renteria (groom).
Cathalina Moscoso Sandoval was the mother of Josefa (Gonzalez) Rubalcava, who was the mother of Nicolas Flores de la Torre, who was the father of Maria Gertrudis de la Torre (bride)
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Tronco 2:
Nicolas Flores de la Torre and Josepha Flores de la Torre were brother/sister.
Nicolas Flores de la Torre was the father of Nicolas Flores, who was the father of Maria Gertrudis Flores de la Torre (bride)
Josepha Flores de la Torre was the mother of Juana Lozano, who was the mother of Christoval Reynoso y Renteria (groom).

The tronco's are listed at the following link:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6X9G-77?cc=1874591

Regards,

Lee

Hola primos y primas,

I descend from Juan Diaz de Leon “El Viejo” and Francisca de Ortega, through their son, Juan Diaz de Leon “El Mozo,” and his marriage to Jacinta Martin de Sotomayor. From them, I descend from 2 sons: Jacinto Diaz, m. Sebastiana Gil, and Joseph Diaz, m. Antonia Delgadillo, the 2 lines reconnecting with the marriage of their grandchildren, Andres Diaz de Leon-Duron and Maria Estefania Carrillo-Diaz de Leon.

Recently, I came upon some notary records, which might establish when this family first settled in Sierra de Pinos. I thought I might share them here, for review and discussion.

First, though I have later generations well-documented, I don’t have a hard fix on the first. According to Don Jaime Holcombe, in his Varias Cartas (p. 171), Juan Diaz de Leon and Francisco Ortega had seven offspring:

a. Maria de Ortega, m. Hernan Perez de Mojica. With issue.
b. Pedro Diaz de Leon, b. 1615-1619. Testigo on various IM’s in Pinos, possibly married to Josefa de Santiago, with issue.
c. Juan Diaz de Leon “El Mozo”, m. Jacinta Martin de Sotomayor, md 17 Aug 1648, Pinos. With issue.
d. Antonio Diaz de Leon, b. 26 May 1621, Pinos. (Holcombe)
e. Antonia Diaz de Leon. (Holcombe)
f. Luis Diaz de Leon. (Holcombe)
g. Joseph Diaz de Leon, b. 13 Jun 1630, Pinos (Holcombe); was a testigo 21 Dec 1648, age 20.

I’ve only found records for four (a, b, c & g); would anybody have anything else on this family group?

BIRTH OF JUAN DIAZ DE LEON EL VIEJO

From 2 IM’s for which he was a witness, we can establish that Juan Diaz de Leon was born around 1580:

10 May 1650 IM for Joseph Gonzalez and Anna de Casteñeda; Juan Diaz de Leon El Viejo (as he’s listed) gave his age as “around 70” (ca. 1580). Left image:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-B75W-C?mode=g&i=133&wc=3PS…

21 Feb 1651 IM for granddaughter, Antonia Perez Mojica and Gines Carrion; his age is given as “over 60” (before 1591). Left image:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-B75N-3?mode=g&i=90&wc=3PS9…

MINE & LAND REGISTRATIONS

In the San Luis Potosi Registros de Minas 1604 Exp 1-5, on 1 Mar 1604, Juan Diaz de Leon files claims on no less that 7 mines, located in Pinos. Credible witnesses present were Jorge Leal, Diego Delgado and Maria Fernandez Pinto. Other miners/individuals named are Francisco Gonzalez, Antonio Gutierrez?, Leonor de Segura, Julian de Santa Maria, Diego Camacho, Juan de Morales, Juan Ruiz de Roza, Maria de Ortega, Juan del Campo, Francisco Lopez, Pedro Anrrq.z?, and Juan Dias.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G58X-S7DY

On the same roll, from a document dated 27 Oct 1604, Juan Diaz de Leon registers “a sitio en el Descubrimiento de Nuestra Señora de la Concepcion de Cuzco [de Sierra de Pinos],” with a main house, a compound for Indians, and an ore mill and smelter for his metals; located in la Cieneguilla de las Encinillas, on a water hole, it was bordered by the properties of Jorge Leal, Juliana de Sotomayor, and Julian de Santa Maria.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G58X-S74T

This is likely when Encinillas became the family seat of the Diaz de Leon, though Juan Diaz was already in the area, previously: found at the General Archives of the Indies in Sevilla, is a map, dated 12 Nov 1603, of a proposed town, “to be founded on the Goleta plains, 4 leagues from the mines of Nuestra Señora de la Concepcion de Sierra de Pinos.” It shows the proposed layout of a town, with streets, a plaza mayor, and lots, assigned to individuals. One of the lots is assigned to Juan Diaz de Leon (one block south of the main plaza).
Código de Referencia: ES.41091.AGI/27.17//MP-MEXICO,51
Archivo General de Indias
Mapas y Planos
Mapas, planos, etc.: México
Planta de la nueva población que se ha de hacer en los llanos de la Goleta, a cuatro leguas de las minas de Nuestra Señora de la Concepcion de Sierra de Pinos.

I hope you find this information useful, and comments, questions and corrections are welcome.

Gracias y Saludos,
Manny Diez Hermosillo

PS & Historical Note: Even though Real de Minas de Sierra de Pinos was in the jurisdiction of Nueva Galicia, during the first decades of the 1600s, residents still had to file in San Luis Potosi, which was in the jurisdiction of Mexico City. This reflects the historical conflict over the jurisdiction of Sierra de Pinos, between the Audiencias in Mexico and Guadalajara, during the first decades of its founding. These are some of the bureaucratic headaches that our ancestors had to deal with!

¡Saludos a todos!

I am very excited to be joining this group. I live in California, USA, and I trace my ancestry back to the early Mexican settlers who came to California between 1769 and 1848. I am currently investigating my family's lines in Ahualulco, Jalisco.

Some of the families I am researching are: VÁSQUEZ, GÓMEZ, CORONA, DE ARAIZA, CORTÉS, DE YSASI/ISSASI, TIZNADO, ALVARÉZ, "CASTELO," RODRÍGUEZ, PATRÓN, DE LEÓN, DE HARO, PACHECO, DEL VALLE, DE SOTO, DE ÁVILA, ESPINOSA, LUGO.

I look forward to collaborating with everyone!

Atentamente,

- Rian R. (https://nuestrosranchos.org/rian)

Good day. 

I hope everyone is well. I am interested in buying a set of Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia. 

Does anyone know where one can be found. 

Best regards,

Sandra

I need help reading some of the names in this marriage from Chihuahua, Mexico, Civil Registrations, 29 dic 1879 for Bernardo Carmona and Ma. Juana Ocon.

I can't make out the name of the groom's grandfather --Pan--?--Carmona.

I also can't make out the name of the bride's paternal grandmother ---Ma ? Munoz ?

What is the bride's paternal grandmother ---Ma. Pla.(?) Munos (?)
I looks like only her maternal grandmother is listed --Antonia Errera (?)

It is a long record that takes up two and a half pages in the marriage volume. I am so mixed up now.

Thank you in advance for your help

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

I've had no luck in searching the baptismal records for Purepero and Tlazazalca, Michoacan.  I have seen variations on the name Nomelin, like Lomelin, Numelin, Romelin, etc.  I have attached a copy of their marriage record.  Any insights or suggestions are appreciated.

Gilbert

There were four men, all named Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava, who were born around 1625-1630, and who lived in the Teocaltiche/ Mexticacan/ Nochistlan area. I have been sorting through various documents, trying to get a hold on who these 4 persons were, and whether or not they might be the same person or persons, and I’ve developed a couple of theories which I thought I’d share here. First, a breakdown on who these men were:

Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava #1

The first Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava married Catalina Cortes de Sandoval on 21 Jun 1651, in Nochistlan; they were velados the following 1 Jun 1652. According to the dispensation of Joseph de Luna and Maria de San Juan Jimenez, Mateo #1 was the son of Antonio de Rubalcava (#1), who was the brother of Lorenzo de Rubalcava, who was the father of Agueda de Rubalcava, great-grandmother of the bride: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-D28K-Z?i=481&wc=3JW5-V…

From other records, we know that Antonio #1 and Lorenzo de Rubalcava were sons of Mateo de Rubalcava cc Geronima Morales.

This relationship is confirmed by the IM of Eugenio de Rubalcava and Maria Dolores de Lizarde, which again establishes Mateo #1 as the son of Antonio de Rubalcava #1, who was brother of Lorenzo de Rubalcava, who was father of Blas de Rubalcava: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-TT37-2?i=25&wc=3P92-3T…

Mateo #1 died some time before 7 Jul 1670, when his daughter, Melchora de Rubalcava, married. Also, it should be noted that his mother is never mentioned, so her identity remains unknown.

Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava #2

The second Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava married Cecilia Vasquez de Islas on 4 Feb 1658 in Nochistlán; he died 21 Jun 1710, in Nochistlan. His origins remain uncertain; the only clue I’ve seen is the dispensation of their son, Joseph Gonzalez de Rubalcava, for his marriage to Magdalena Carrillo, hija natural of Geronimo Carrillo and Magdalena Mendoza. According to this dispensa, Mateo #2 and Geronimo Carrillo were 1st-cousins, though the details of their relationship are not explained: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6K99-JY?cc=1874591&wc=…

Geronimo Carrillo might be the same who was married to Maria Lozano Sandoval, and who died and was buried on 8 Mar 1693 in Nochistlan. Likewise, he might be the same Geronimo, son of Diego Carrillo and Maria Lopez, who was confirmed 29 Dec 1666 in Teocaltiche: (left) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-QT5Y-7?i=46&wc=SS5B-7M… and who was living in their household in the 1681 Teocaltiche padron: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89K2-Y8HH?i=475&cat=23…

If this is the case, then Geronimo’s relationship to Mateo #2 could be through his mother, Maria Lopez de Rubalcava, who was the daughter of Mateo de Rubalcava cc Geronima Morales; since Mateo #2 was his 1st-cousin, then he would also be their grandson. The relationship would look like this:

Tronco: Mateo de Rubalcava cc Geronima Morales
Maria Lopez-1- ?
Geronimo Carrillo-2-Mateo de Rubalcava #2
Magdalena Carrillo-3-Joseph de Rubalcava

Note: it is clear that Mateo #1 and Mateo #2 are NOT the same person, since they were married to different women and having children at the same time, and also, the former died at least 40 years before the latter.

Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava #3

The 3rd Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava was the son of the above-mentioned Lorenzo de Rubalcava and Catalina Gonzalez, confirmed on 16 May 1634 in Teocaltiche: (right) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-QT5Y-9?cc=1874591&wc=3…

Mateo #3 had a natural daughter named Catalina Gonzalez, who married Juan Gonzalez Hidalgo on 31 Aug 1667, in Teocaltiche; that she was his daughter is explained in the dispensation of Bernardo Lopez de Nava and Quiteria Jimenez, which claims that, “Mateo Gonz de Rubalcava and Agueda Gonz de Rubalcava were siblings; from Mateo came Catarina Gonzales por copula iliicita, from whom came Nicolasa Gonzalez Hidalgo, mother of the groom; from Agueda came Catharina Arellanos, and from this one, Antonio Jimenez father of the bride”: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6K9Y-JN?i=253&wc=12512…

From other records, we know that Agueda de Rubalcava aka Agueda Lopez was the daughter of Lorenzo de Rubalcava cc Catalina Gonzalez, supporting that Mateo #3 was the same confirmed in 1634. Nothing else is known about him.

Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava #4

Hello to everyone,

I have been researching Antonio Cornejo Riojano with the purpose to discover more information and get a better picture of this person, who several of us here descend from. I have received a lot of assistance in the past from Rick and Dibleet, who found his birth registration from 1658, (year listed as his birth but had not been able to find before) to an Alonso Cornejo and Francisca de Acosta. 

Ozumba. Religious Legitimation Records 1650–1664 | San Pedro Atzompa. Religious Marriage Records April 1662–February 1666

I will use this post to add any information I come across about Antonio, please feel free to add anything, so that we can uncover more information about him together.

I came across this record below of Antonio Cornejo today, which I think is very fascinating. Aside from the historical information it contains about landowners near the Jalos region in Jalisco, Antonio is mentioned several times throughout this source. The land record with "Antonio Cornejo Roxano" images starting from 393 - 396 are what really drew my attention. On Page 396, at the bottom portion of the page, it has his actual signature on the document, and he signs it "Antonio Cornejo Rojano." This is the first time I had seen this spelling, which is the way my surname is spelled, usually it was spelled Riojano or Roxano in other documents and having him sign it that way is so cool.

Guadalajara. Land Records 1770

Thank you all,

Edward

Hello!

I'm trying to located modern names and sites of early ranchos and haciendas connected to family. Does anyone know about the following?

Los Jacales/Los Xacales (Barrio de los Jacales): Los Jacales located immediately southwest of Lagos, by San Pablo de Nazas? or Jacales, by Chipinque, located north of Lagos on the Camino de Escondida?

El Rancho de Nasas: San Pablo de Nazas, southwest of Lagos, adjacent to Los Jacales?

La Estancia de Domingo de Espinosa: south of Lagos at Loma de Espinosa?

Los Velozes (El Rancho de Pedro de Beloso/Veloso c1615-1672): Loma de Velozes?

La Hacienda de Juan Días Toribio (c1619-1669)?

El Rancho de Bartolomé de Mesquita/Amezquita (c1595-aft1669)?

Thank you,

Travis

Does anyone have Rick Ricci's current email address?

Joseph Puentes 

Hi all--

I am looking for documentation on Jose Hernando de Haro, who was the son of Juan Miramontes. Hernando was married to Francisca Flores de la Torre (hija de CAP Luis Flores de la Torre and unknoown female) sometime in the last quarter of 1600s.

If you have any sources for Hernando de Haro, please advise. Thanks!

Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com

Hola prim@s,

Aquí las informaciones genealógicas del familiar y alguacil mayor del Santo Oficio, Domingo de Onís y Vela, y de su esposa, María Mancina, fechada el 11 oct 1684 en Llerena, minas de Sombrerete: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-WSM4-J?cat=31792&…

María Mancina era de Tlaltenango y bisnieta de Miguel Rivera y Leonor Ortiz, de Guadalajara, esta última hija de Francisco López de la Cruz y Alfonsina de la Paz, naturales de Santa Olalla y vecinos de Guadalajara. Por eso se incluye la probanza de la familia López de la Cruz Haedo (o Ahedo), hecha en Toledo y en Vizcaya en 1616, y en nombre de los hermanos Diego, Alonso, Lorenzo, y Cristóbal López de la Cruz Haedo, y en nombre de Cristóbal López de la Cruz Haedo su sobrino, hijo de su hermano Francisco, ya difunto. Los cinco hermanos eran hijos de Juan de la Cruz, vecino de Santa Olalla: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-W91B-D?cat=31792&…

Se describe cómo su abuelo, Diego López de la Cruz Haedo, hijo de Pedro de la Cruz, señor y dueño de la casa y solar de Haedo, “que está sita en el consejo de Salla, de este valle de Salcedo en las Encartaciones de Vizcaya”, salió del dicho valle en 1522 en compañía de don Lope de Salcedo (señor de la casa de Salcedo y Aranguren) y otros hijosdalgo, para servir al emperador don Carlos V durante la Guerra de las Comunidades, y que dicho Diego López de la Cruz, durante ese tiempo, conoció y se casó con una mujer de Santa Olalla en el obispado de Toledo, donde permaneció, y fueron ellos los padres de Juan de la Cruz.

Aunque no lo dice explícitamente, se puede suponer que el susodicho Francisco López de la Cruz Ahedo, ya difunto en 1616, es el mismo que se casó con Alfonsina de la Paz y que llegó a la Nueva España en 1561. ¿Qué opinan ustedes, mis primos?

Saludos!
Manny Díez Hermosillo

FRANCISCO DE MONROY
Expediente de información y licencia de pasajero a indias de Francisco de Monroy, natural y vecino de México, hijo de Luis Moreno de Monrroy y de Catalina de la Cruz, a México, con las siguientes personas: - Juana Telo y de la Cruz y Aldo, mujer, natural y vecina de México, - Fernando López de la Cruz Haedo, cuñado, natural y vecino de Toledo, hijo de Lorenzo López de la Cruz y María de Toledo (Lorenzo López fue hijo de Juan de la Cruz y presenta testigos, incluso su hermano Diego López de la Cruz Haedo. Juana Tello y Aedo de la Cruz fue su hija - se casó ella con Francisco de Monroy - hijo de su prima hermana).
https://pares.mcu.es:443/ParesBusquedas20/catalogo/description/147507