Nuestros Ranchos Site

Sounds like a report card, doesn't it.
I can't believe that it is the 2nd of December - already ... where has the time gone??

Natalie,

You deserve to be congratulated.......any progress whether major or minor deserves to be acknowledged and recoginized, even when it appears that we don't make any progress and we don't have any significant findings it's still progress. Progress because the process of elimination is also telling, it speaks of where people have not been and tells us to keep looking and look elsewhere etc, etc.

One day I will be able to get back to doing research, don't know when but it's always with me, when it's time I know my ancestors will call me back.

Good luck and good work,
Alicia in San Jose, Calif

For those of you who belong to the Mexican FHR Yahoo Group, I have uploaded the Census files for the states of Aguascalientes, Jalisco, and Zacatecas. They are in the file section unnder 2000 Mexican Census. For those of you who do not belong to the group, here the link http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mexicanfhr/ .

For those who would like to still get a copy of my CD, with the rest of Mexico and the many other research tools on it (such the Parisht and Vital Records list for Mexico) contact me at mexicanfhr@gmail.com

Jonathan

The pdf files for the 2000 Mexican census, did come from my Resource CD. Those that would like a copy, can contact me off the list (at mexicanfhr@gmail.com) to make arrangements to get one.

Also, the files for Aguascalientes, Jalisco and Zacatecas, were in the file section on the yahoo Ranchos group.

And the Family History Library does have copies of the same report, for the 1960 and the 1990 census.

Jonathan

Steave, If you get it can I also have it. I have relatives that were born in Jalisco and Zacatecas and cannot find them.

Thanks
Mary

-----Original Message-----
>From: sgapodaca
>Sent: Dec 2, 2007 12:24 PM
>To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mexican Census
>
>
>I hope somebody can answer this for me. I remember that, a long time ago, on the Yahoo Ranchos group, I downloaded a file that had the results of the INEGI Mexican census for the states of Aguascalientes, Jalisco, and Zacatecas. Later on, I think it was on Jonathan Walker's cd, I saw the complete review for all the states. It included the reported population on every single municipio and every single city, town and rancho in the whole country. Does anybody know where can I find this file? It was in Adobe format.
>
>The reason I need it, is because I started volunteering in the 1930 mexican census project. I am currently indexing pages for the state of Chihuahua, and some of the localities are hard to read, so I thought that by looking at the current census listings, I could descipher the name I am looking for.
>
>Hope somebody helps me with this.
>
>Saludos,
>
>Steve.

Joseph,

Thanks for the link to the Latin American Pamphlet Collection. I found an
interesting document entitled "Memoria Historica sobre el Canal de
Nicaragua" written in 1845 by my fellow countryman Alejandro Marure, a well
known historian from Guatemala. I downloaded the entire document which I
plan to read as soon as I get some free time. As you probably know, the
project to build a canal through Nicaragua preceded the Panama Canal, which
was completed in 1914. Although never pursued due to seismic faults and
volcanic activity, the crossing of the isthmus through Nicaragua was used
during the gold rush (1848-1856) when thousands of Americans sailed from New
York, Philadelphia, Boston and other ports along the eastern seaboard, and
headed west to San Francisco. There was no inter-oceanic railroad in the US
and it took many months to cross by land, with many attacks by the indians.
The Nicaragua Canal would have been at sea-level, without any need for
locks, flooding or blowing up mountains, like in Panama. Most of the
navigation in Nicaragua would've been on the San Juan River and lake
Nicaragua. Only a short canal from the southern end of the lake to the
Pacific ocean would have been required (about 12 km long), but it would've
been necessary to keep dredging the river almost continuously due to the
accumulation of silt during the rainy season.

Anyway, that's another story. I just wanted to let you know that I found
many interesting documents in the Harvard pamphlet collection, many related
to Mexico. Thanks again for the link.

Bill Figueroa

This is what I found on your Anastacia Jacinto

Individual Record
FamilySearch™ Vital Records Index

Mexico

Anastasia JACINTA
Age At Marriage: 23

Sex:

Event(s):

Birth: <1856>

Place: Guadalajara

Parents:

Father: Vicente JACINTO

Mother: Refugio MARQUES

Marriage:

Spouse: Justo MACIAS

Age At Marriage: 30

Marriage: 18 Feb 1879

Place: Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico

Source Information:

Batch Number: M603685

Source Dates: 1853 - 1893

Film or Fiche Number: 439374

Collection Details: Catolica
I actually believe that Jacinto is their last name.
I found one of Anastacia's brothers. Porfirio.

Individual Record
FamilySearch™ Vital Records Index

Mexico

Porfirio JACINTO
Age At Marriage: 22

Sex:

Event(s):

Birth: <1866>

Place: Guadalajara

Parents:

Father: Vicente JACINTO

Mother: Refugio MARQUEZ

Marriage:

Spouse: Juana SANCHES

Age At Marriage: 20

Marriage: 09 May 1888

Place: Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico

Individual Record
FamilySearch™ Vital Records Index

Mexico

Juana SANCHES
Age At Marriage: 20

Sex:

Event(s):

Birth: <1868>

Place: Guadalajara

Parents:

Father: Manuel SANCHES

Mother: Josefa LUGO

Marriage:

Spouse: Porfirio JACINTO

Age At Marriage: 22

Marriage: 09 May 1888

Place: Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico

Source Information:

Batch Number: M603685

Source Dates: 1853 - 1893

Film or Fiche Number: 439374

Collection Details: Catolica
I also found Anastacia's baptism. O think it must be her. This place isnt too far from Jesus Maria. also her sister Manuela

Maria Anastacia
Pedigree

Female

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

26 JAN 1856
San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Ciudad Manuel Doblado, Guanajuato, Mexico

Death:

Burial:

Parents:

Father:
Vicente Jacinto
Family

Mother:
Refugia Marques

Messages:

Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:

Batch No.:
Dates:
Source Call No.:
Type:
Printout Call No.:
Type:

C606947
1854 - 1858
0661310
Film
NONE

Sheet:

1. MA. MANUELA JACINTO MARQUEZ - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Christening: 18 APR 1852 San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Ciudad Manuel Doblado, Guanajuato, Mexico

Not Sure if your Justo came from Guanajuato but these could be his siblings. Since his
wife Anastacia would be possibly been born there.

3. JOSE FELIPE MACIAS GUZMAN - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Male Christening: 28 NOV 1844 San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Ciudad Manuel Doblado, Guanajuato, Mexico

4. Maria Estanislada - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Christening: 15 MAY 1856 San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Ciudad Manuel Doblado, Guanajuato, Mexico-Daniel Mendez del Camino
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Steve:

Welcome to the group and congratulations on your early finds. I am sure you will realize that this becomes a never ending quest with each discovery and confirmation only opening up more questions and opportunities for further research.

One thing that I would suggest is that if you have not yet looked at the actual baptism record for your grandfather Pablo Macias, you order the relevant film and look at it. In the archdiocese of Guadalajara, all baptisms were required to list the names of the four grandparents beginning around 1810... thus his baptism should confirm his maternal grandparents' names.

The pattern of Jacinto being used as the daughters surname... changed to Jacinta was not uncommon especially among indigenous people who otherwise lacked a surname, i.e. the second name became the surname. Vicente appears to not have had a surname since in the baptism of his daughter Librada he is listed with no surname.

If Anastacia Jacinta is indeed your ancestor, these would be her siblings:

Librada JACINTO - Vital Records Index
Gender: F Marriage: 09 Jan 1884 Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico
LIBRADA N. MARQUES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 AUG 1864 Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico

Pabla JACINTO - Vital Records Index
Gender: F Marriage: 15 Oct 1884 Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico

Porfirio JACINTO - Vital Records Index
Gender: M Marriage: 09 May 1888 Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico

Hola Sandra ,como esta ? Ojala que bien. Yo me llamo Ronnie Reynoso vivo en Claremont, California. Mis gentes son de Los Altos de Jalisco. Yo traigo las mismas lineas que usted.
de Moctezuma ,Hermosillo,Gutierrez de Hermosillo,Gonzalez de Hermosillo ,Ruiz de Esparza,
Romo de Vivar,Gomez (de Mendoza),Munoz de Barba ,Ramirez de Mendoza,y Reynoso.Su Linea de
Reynoso es de Zacatecas por lado de Moyahua me imagino. Bueno te esplico que hubo dos hermanos ,uno que se llamaba Francisco Reynoso que se caso con una Josefa Renteria y se quedaron en Jalisco y su hermano Diego Reynoso se caso con la hermana Margarita Renteria y se quedaron en Zacatecas.Todos Los Reynoso son los mismos pero no se la coneccion suya con Diego Reynoso pero estoy seguro que es su antepasado.
Su Pariente Nuevo y
pariente a casi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco
Ronnie Reynoso Hermosillo
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: sandragomezmendoza@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:36:15 -0800> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Familias de Juchipila, Zac antes del 1800> > > Buenas tardes a todos!> > Este es mi primer post y me da mucho gusto finalmente formar parte de Nuestros Ranchos. Tengo casi 10 an~os trabajando en el arbol genealogico y ya tengo como 1500 personas en el. Es muy interesante ver como todo mundo en Nuestros Ranchos es "familia" de un modo u otro. Mis familias incluyen: de Moctezuma, Hermosillo, Gutierrez de Hermosillo, Gonzalez de Hermosillo, Ruiz de Esparza, Romo, Romo del Vivar, Enriquez, Gomez, Munoz de la Barba, Ramirez de Mendoza, Samaniego, Soria, Reynoso etc etc> > Ahora vivimos en San Antonio, TX pero las ultimas 4 generaciones de mi familia son de Juchipila, Amoxochitl, Moyahua y Apozol, Zac. Por historias de los abuelos se que durante la revolucion se perdieron muchos registros y pues he topado con una pared. Se que originalment
e llegaron de Aguascalientes y Jalisco pero hay como 150 an~os que no he podido encontrar. Especialmente me interesan los Enriquez, Samaniego, Soria, Reynoso y Esparza del area de Juchipila, Amoxochitl, Moyahua y Apozol de entre el 1650 y 1800.> > Alguno de ustedes tiene alguna idea de como pudiera encontrar mas info?> > Gracias!> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org

Arturo, what a wonderful job you've done, Congratulations. One question, is your book in Spanish only? I'm especially interested in your Caldera lines since I have 4 Caldera grandmothers married into my lines in Jerez. I can read enough Spanish to do a record but have a really hard time with books.

thank you and congratulations again, Linda Castanon-Long

arturoramos wrote:

I just returned last night from a visit to my parents' home in Mexico and had the pleasure of spending a couple of days in the archives in Guadalajara with the town historian (cronista) of Totatiche, Esteban Valdes Salazar. We visited the Biblioteca Publica del Estado as well as the Archivo Historico del Estado de Jalisco.

The former archive has the archives of the Real Audiencia de Guadalajara, including records of civil and criminal legal proceedings. At that archive, I was able to locate a copy of the 1711 will of Pedro Carlos de Godoy, which was included as part of the litigation documentation over that will. A transcription of the will is included in my file folder. It includes a wealth of genealogical information about the Carlos de Godoy family as well as some interesting information about customs related to property and inheritance. For example, he takes account of what each of his two wifes brought the respective marriages, compared to his wealth, presumably to show that what he was willing was in fact his and not his wife's... Also he leaves his unmarried daughters a disproportionate amount of wealth, presumably so that they can pay their dowries, which he makes clear he had paid for his married daughters.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13649

The latter archive includes the Fondo de Tierras y Aguas which includes "mercedes de tierra" or land grants made by the Spanish Crown as well as later divisions, sale and clarification of land boundaries. The collection has many documents related to families in our region. I reviewed the indices which the archive has compiled on the collection, paying special attention to the Jerez and Tlaltenango jurisdictions and read through a couple of documents related to land grants to Francisco Escobedo and Felipe Lemus... This collection is all filmed and available through LDS though a good index is key.

Daniel,

I recently found a reference to Juan del Camino in an obscure document from the old Archivo de Tierras y Aguas de Guadalajara. The document, dated 4 October 1789, doesn't have any information about him, only a reference:

"En el Valle de Vanderas Jurisdicion de tepic en beinte y cuatro dias del mes de octubre de mil setecientos ochenta y nueve años ante mi Don Manuel Gonzales de Villa las [illegible] de este valle por dn Juan del Camino Alcalde mayor y [de] la Santa Hermandad por su Magestad que Dios guarde...etc.".

This reference is on page 77.5 of a "legajo de documentos" included in film No. 270075 of the Archivo de Instrumentos Públicos de Guadalajara, Antiguo Archivo de Tierras y Aguas. I'm not sure this is your ancestor, but I took note of it anyway.

I think the Tepic in this document is the capital of the present State of Nayarit. The city is located among the rugged mountains of the Sierra Madre, a few miles north of Santiago de Compostela. Tepic is a very old city, founded in 1531. As you probably know, Santiago de Compostela was the very first capital of the "Reyno de la Nueva Galicia". The capital was later moved to Nochistlán and finally to Guadalajara. The first expeditions to establish presidios (military posts) and catholic missions in Alta California (along the coast from San Diego to San Francisco) originated in that area. Fray Junípero Serra started his trip in Santiago de Compostela and spent several months in Tepic preparing for his trip. The convent where he stayed is now a museum. The exploration parties to colonize Alta California sailed from the Port of San Blas, founded by the Spanish crown, precisely for the conquest and settlement of the Alta California. The history of this area is closely related to the history of your home state of California, which was part of Mexico until the mid 19th century.

What do you know about your Juan del Camino? Could this be one of his descendants?

Bill Figueroa

Daniel:

I recently ordered copies of a number of maps from Archivo General de Indias that were microfilmed and not digitized. I think the reason may be that such documents are usually odd sizes and in color and the digitization, as you may have noticed scans standard sized (page size) documents in black and white.

It has been a long process. I wrote them via email asking for an official quote for reproduction (on high definition fiche) of the relevant documents.. you can also get photocopies on A4 paper if you like. Once I got the quote (which was snail mailed to me) I had to get a Euro-demoninated bank draft issued in order to pay for the copies and mail it back with the acceptance of the quote.

Overall it has been slow but not too expensive... getting the Euro-denominated bank draft cost more than the three fiche.

You can write me privately if you need more details as to how to go about it.

You need to go to your local Family History Center and order some of
these films. To find your local family history center go to
www.familysearch.org

joseph

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Title
*Registros parroquiales, 1710-1957*

Authors
*Iglesia Católica. San Juan Bautista (San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco)
(Main Author)*

Notes
*Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo de la parroquia.
Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriage petitions,
marriages, and deaths from San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.*

Subjects
* México, Jalisco, San Juan de los Lagos - Church records*

Format
* Manuscript (On Film)*

Language
* Spanish*

Publication
* Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah,
1957*

Physical
* 259 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.*

Film Notes
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*Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1710-1737 - FHL INTL Film [ 220642 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1737-1745 - FHL INTL Film [ 220643 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1745-1756 - FHL INTL Film [ 220644 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1756-1765 - FHL INTL Film [ 220645 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1765-1774 - FHL INTL Film [ 220646 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1774-1784 - FHL INTL Film [ 220647 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1784-1793 - FHL INTL Film [ 220648 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1793-1800 - FHL INTL Film [ 220649 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1801-1809 - FHL INTL Film [ 220650 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1809-1816 - FHL INTL Film [ 220651 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1816-1823 - FHL INTL Film [ 220652 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1823-1829 - FHL INTL Film [ 220653 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1829-1833 - FHL INTL Film [ 220654 ]
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Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1867-1869 - FHL INTL Film [ 220666 ]
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Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1871-1873 - FHL INTL Film [ 220668 ]
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Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1876-1878 - FHL INTL Film [ 220670 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1878-1880 - FHL INTL Film [ 220671 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1880-1882 - FHL INTL Film [ 220672 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1882-1884 - FHL INTL Film [ 220673 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1884-1886 - FHL INTL Film [ 220674 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1886-1888 - FHL INTL Film [ 220675 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1888-1890 - FHL INTL Film [ 220676 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1890-1892 - FHL INTL Film [ 220677 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1892-1895 - FHL INTL Film [ 220678 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1895-1897 - FHL INTL Film [ 220679 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1897-1900 - FHL INTL Film [ 220680 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1900-1902 - FHL INTL Film [ 220681 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1902-1904 - FHL INTL Film [ 220682 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1904-1907 - FHL INTL Film [ 220683 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1907-1909 - FHL INTL Film [ 220684 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1909-1911 - FHL INTL Film [ 220685 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1911-1913 - FHL INTL Film [ 220686 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1913-1916 - FHL INTL Film [ 220687 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1916-1920 - FHL INTL Film [ 220688 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1920-1923 - VAULT INTL Film [ 220689 ]
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1923-1926 - VAULT INTL Film [ 220690 ]
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sergio meza wrote:
> I am searching for any decendents of Simon Macias my grandfather born in the
> are of San Juan de los Lagos Jal. born about 1889. His parents were Simon
> Macias and Sostenes Guerra. Any leads are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sergio Meza
>
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Lupe

Three of my grandparents were from that area Santa Rosalia de Camargo, Chih. I have a small database for that area and if you give me the names that you are looking for I will try and find some info for you. Just give me a little information about them, a timeframe parents whatever you have. HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU AND ALL THE RANCHOS GROUP

Yolanda Medina Perez from El Paso

Lupe Kerr wrote:

Can anyone tell me if Santa Rosalia is anywhere near AugaCalientes? I have Garcia family from that area, but I can't seem to find any record with the actual name of Santa Rosalia, except for the birth cert. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Lupe

If I am not mistaken, it is in Chihuhua, Mex. but I don't know if its close to Augacalientes.

Mary

-----Original Message-----
>From: Lupe Kerr
>Sent: Nov 13, 2007 3:42 PM
>To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Santa Rosalia
>
>
>Can anyone tell me if Santa Rosalia is anywhere near AugaCalientes? I have Garcia family from that area, but I can't seem to find any record with the actual name of Santa Rosalia, except for the birth cert. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Lupe

Hi Anna,

Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of the bookstore where I bought
"Los Españoles en Aguascalientes durante la época colonial" but will retrive
the box where I filed the receipts from my 2006 trip and let you know later.
The bookstore is located in "El Parian", a well known shopping area in
Aguascalientes. You can also buy local history books at the University of
Aguascalientes, where they probably have a better selection.

I've been trying to figure out whether I bought "Encomenderos y Hacendados
1534-1650" in Aguascalientes or in Guadalajara. I'll let you know later.

Have you been in Aguascalientes before? Do you know your way around the
city?

Saludos,

Bill

Yolanda, my prayers are with you, I'm in California on a similar journey so appreciate your situation. Now sounds like a perfect time to share memories and stories from your parents about the things in their history they may have never told you about before. I'm finding my Dad is recalling all kinds of things in the month I've been with him. I thought he'd told me everything before since I've asked for years but now those old memories of his grandparents and parents seem to be coming back to him. His memories make him smile so it's a good thing for him too.

Be sure to photograph the records for your files so you always have a copy of the original. Marge sounds right about keeping it in an acid free folder.

Linda Castanon-Long

Yolanda Wilkerson wrote:
Hi everyone it has been awhile since I have been online. We found out about a month ago my mother has colon cancer, so taking care of my parents comes first. In visiting with them one day my father told me that he found his fathers birth certificate and baptismal cert. from mexico. So my question to you is
Should I laminate it to keep it from turning yellow or do I leave it as is.

Yolanda (Jauregui-Caudillo) Wilkerson
Ks
If today is your worst day,
then tomorrow will be better.

My URL; my.com/yaw

I would ask a photo archivist. I think laminating it would be a
BIIIIIIG mistake. It needs to be kept in an acid free archival type
folder, etc., so a photo archivist would be best to ask. Marge:)

On Nov 15, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Yolanda Wilkerson wrote:

> Hi everyone it has been awhile since I have been online. We found out
> about a month ago my mother has colon cancer, so taking care of my
> parents comes first. In visiting with them one day my father told me
> that he found his fathers birth certificate and baptismal cert. from
> mexico. So my question to you is
> Should I laminate it to keep it from turning yellow or do I leave it
> as is.
>
> Yolanda (Jauregui-Caudillo) Wilkerson
> Ks
> If today is your worst day,
> then tomorrow will be better.
>
> My URL; my.com/yaw

John, A big warm hug of welcome. Many years ago, you encouraged me not to give up at my attempt to read that first film, and to think of it as learning how to read Spanish...again.

Since then, I have researched many of my lines, and I am back to the mid 1600's.
Thanks again.
Helyn

Joseph Puentes wrote:

John Schmal has joined the group. John doesn't have roots in our area of
research but has done extensive research for others in our area of
Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. He will be submitting some of
the work he has done for others as his representative genealogy. John
will be a great addition to the group because when you describe him as a
"serious" researcher you need to use a capital "S" in the word "Serious."

welcome to the group John,

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

Sofia:

There are many Chupaderos according to the Diccionario Geográfico, Histórico y Biográfico de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos by Antonio García Cubas.

You can access it online... look under GEOGRAPHY in the LINKS section of the Nuestros Ranchos site.

There is one in San Luis Potosi (San Ciro de Albercas), three in Coahuila, one in Nuevo Leon, one in Chihuahua, two in Guanajuato, one in Michoacan, etc.

Katia:

Nos podrias dar mas detalles, tal como fechas probables de los sacramentos (bautizo o matrimonio) de estas personas? Sin eso es bastante dificil saber donde buscar... Aqui te mando informacion de varios Ignacios Canedo que aparecen en el IGI de familysearch.org:

JOSE YGNACIO CANEDO
Gender: Male Marriage: 27 MAY 1824 Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

JOSEPH YGNACIO JACINTO CANEDO ZAMORANO
Gender: Male Christening: 24 AUG 1777 Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico

YGNACIO CANEDO LOPEZ
Gender: Male Christening: 02 AUG 1857 Zapotiltic, Jalisco, Mexico

JOSE YGNACIO EUGENIO CANEDO MORAN
Gender: Male Christening: 19 NOV 1828 Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

JOSE TIMOTEO YGNACIO CANEDO LANDETA
Gender: Male Christening: 24 AUG 1812 Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

JOSE YGNACIO EUSTACIO CANEDO VALDIVIELSO
Gender: Male Christening: 30 MAR 1823 Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

YGNACIO CANEDO VALDIVIESO
Gender: Male Marriage: 23 JAN 1845 Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

YGNACIO CANEDO SOTO
Gender: Male Marriage: 07 MAR 1867 Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

JOSE YGNACIO MARIA CANEDO MATUTE
Gender: Male Christening: 25 SEP 1857 Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

Estimada Maria, Muchas gracias.

Efectivamente Miguel Hidalgo desciende de la familia de Mora por su madre.
A continuación te mando lo que tengo de la familia Gallaga que es el apellido de su madre:

Pedro Gallaga nacido en España, llegó a Nueva España entre 1667 y 1669, casó con Maria de Mandarte. Tuvieron a Fernando que nació en La Barca, y casó co Maria de Mora Navarro y Cabrera. al enviudar casó de nuevo pero no tengo el nombre de la persona sólo sé que de su segundo matrimonio tuvo a Jerónimo.

Del primer matrimonio nacieron Juan Pedro Alcántara, Mateo Manuel, y Juan. el primero nació en Tejupilco el 13 de marzo de 1700. Juan Pedro casó con Joaquina de Villaseñor y Lomelí el 17 de febrero de 1726 en Santa Maria Vaniqueo. Ellos son los padres de Ana Maria Gallaga Villaseñor la madre de Miguel Hidalgo.

Luego le paso más datos, tengo que salir.

Hasta pronto.

Rodolfo.

> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 14:38:46 -0700> From: mcortez3@gmail.com> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Digest, Vol 22, Issue 3> > >> > Bienvenido al grupo Rodolfo, > > > No se si llegemos a emparentar, pero es posible. El apellido Sanchez es el> de mi abuelo paterno. Tambien tengo otras lineas con este apellido y todos> son de Los Altos de Jalisco. Algunos usaban el apellido compuesto de> Sanchez de Porras y despues de los 1800s simplemente Sanchez. Algunos eran> de la Hacienda del Carrizo, otros del Rancho del Flaco y de San Juan de los> Lagos. En fin, este apellido figura prominentemente en mis estudios de los> ultimos 7 años. Si gustas revisa mi archivo en Nuestros Ranchos.> > Tengo una pregunta acerca de los Hidalgo y Costilla. ¿Me imagino que te> refieres a la familia del Cura Miguel? Hace tiempo otro genealogista me> paso unos datos de la genealogia materna de Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla. La> madre de el descendia de Fernando de la Mora y Maria Zamora que son> ancestros mios. Perdi los datos que nunca llegue a verificar y ahora tengo> esa curiosidad de investigar este asunto. Te agradesco cualquier informacion> que tengas al respecto.> > Saludos cordiales,> > Maria Cortez> > > > Estimados miembros de Nuestros Ranchos. Buenos d?as.> >> > Mi nombre completo es Rodolfo Sina? G?mez de Betanzos Contreras, nac? en> > la Ciudad de M?xico el 9 de junio de 1975. Estudi? la Licenciatura en> > Estudios Latinoamericanos en la UNAM, Universidad Nacional Aut?noma de> > M?xico, crec? rodeado de t?os y abuelos muy ancianos de quienes escuch?> > cientos de historias de viajes, migraciones, guerras, aventuras, antepasados> > ilustres y recuerdos personales de su infancia y juventud; indudablemente> > esas historias determinaron mi curiosidad por el estudio del pasado, por la> > Historia.> >> > Actualmente soy Cronista Municipal de Tejupilco, un municipio del sur> > oeste del Estado de M?xico, doy clases en una Universidad que pertenece a la> > Red de Universidades An?huac de los Legionarios de Cristo, tambi?n me> > encargo de las relaciones p?blicas y promoci?n de la misma universidad.> >> > Mi familia paterna lleg? en 1553 a Puebla mi primer antepasado en M?xico> > (la Nueva Espa?a) fue Gonzalo G?mez de Betanzos quien lleg? a Puebla de los> > ?ngeles para ser Corregidor de ?sta reci?n fundada ciudad, una de sus hijas:> > Juana cas? con el conquistador Francisco G?mez. En el siglo XVII pasan a> > Sultepec y en 1734 a Tejupilco.> >> > Mi abuelo paterno naci? en Tlalpujahua Michoac?n, sus padres nacieron en> > San Felipe del Progreso Estado de M?xico, la familia Contreras posee a?n> > casi la mitad del territorio de todo el municipio. Mi abuela materna naci?> > en San Miguel el Alto Jalisco mas sin embargo no sabemos casi nada de ella> > pues mis abuelos se divorciaron y mi madre junto a sus dos hermanas quedaron> > bajo la custodia de mi abuelo, quien las separ? y escondi? de su madre a> > quien no volvieron a ver.> >> > Tenemos ?rboles geneal?gicos de casi todas las familias de mi linea> > paterna, y de mi abuelo materno pero no sabemos nada de mi verdadera abuela,> > por eso me he propuesto investigar la historia de su familia: Valdivia> > S?nchez.> >> > Gracias por aceptarme en su grupo, despu?s de todo un 25% de mi sangre es> > de Jalisco, de San Miguel el Alto. Pongo a su disposici?n mis conocimientos> > e investigaciones, espero les sirvan de algo, aunque principalmente se trata> > de estudios demogr?ficos y raciales de Tejupilco en la ?poca Colonial, De> > historia del Sur del Estado de M?xico, Estudios Geneal?gicos de las familias> > G?mez de Betanzos, Olascoaga, L?pez de Miranda, de Carvajal y Toledo,> > Ram?rez de Arellano, Hidalgo y Costilla, Ben?tez de Ariza, Contreras, Gama,> > Ca?as, Le?n Campuzano, familias a las que me une parentesco y a las 3> > ?ltimas amistad.> >> > Hasta pronto.> >> > Afectuosamente> >> > Rodolfo Sina?.> >> >> >> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Hola Rodolfo,

Yo también desciendo de familias VALDIVIA de San Miguel el Alto. Mi abuelo paterno era de apellidos RODRIGUEZ VALDIVIA, hijo de María Guadalupe VALDIVIA VALADEZ, nacida en 1898 allí mismo en San Miguel.
Si tienes algo de información acerca de tu abuela, con gusto te ayudo a encontrar más acerca de ella y su familia. Aun tengo contacto con algunas familias VALDIVIA de San Miguel el Alto.

Bueno, espero sigamos en contacto.

Saludos,

Ricardo Rodríguez
Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco
www.valledeguadalupe.com

Hola Rodolfo,

Yo también desciendo de familias VALDIVIA de San Miguel el Alto. Mi abuelo
paterno era de apellidos RODRIGUEZ VALDIVIA, hijo de María Guadalupe
VALDIVIA VALADEZ, nacida en 1898 allí mismo en San Miguel.
Si tienes algo de información acerca de tu abuela, con gusto te ayudo a
encontrar más acerca de ella y su familia. Aun tengo contacto con algunas
familias VALDIVIA de San Miguel el Alto.

Bueno, espero sigamos en contacto.

Saludos,

Ricardo Rodríguez
Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco
www.valledeguadalupe.com

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De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de mcortez
Enviado el: Sábado, 03 de Noviembre de 2007 3:39 PM
Para: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Digest, Vol 22, Issue 3

>
> Bienvenido al grupo Rodolfo,

No se si llegemos a emparentar, pero es posible. El apellido Sanchez es el
de mi abuelo paterno. Tambien tengo otras lineas con este apellido y todos
son de Los Altos de Jalisco. Algunos usaban el apellido compuesto de
Sanchez de Porras y despues de los 1800s simplemente Sanchez. Algunos eran
de la Hacienda del Carrizo, otros del Rancho del Flaco y de San Juan de los
Lagos. En fin, este apellido figura prominentemente en mis estudios de los
ultimos 7 años. Si gustas revisa mi archivo en Nuestros Ranchos.

Tengo una pregunta acerca de los Hidalgo y Costilla. ¿Me imagino que te
refieres a la familia del Cura Miguel? Hace tiempo otro genealogista me
paso unos datos de la genealogia materna de Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla. La
madre de el descendia de Fernando de la Mora y Maria Zamora que son
ancestros mios. Perdi los datos que nunca llegue a verificar y ahora tengo
esa curiosidad de investigar este asunto. Te agradesco cualquier informacion
que tengas al respecto.

Saludos cordiales,

Maria Cortez

> Estimados miembros de Nuestros Ranchos. Buenos d?as.
>
> Mi nombre completo es Rodolfo Sina? G?mez de Betanzos Contreras, nac? en
> la Ciudad de M?xico el 9 de junio de 1975. Estudi? la Licenciatura en
> Estudios Latinoamericanos en la UNAM, Universidad Nacional Aut?noma de
> M?xico, crec? rodeado de t?os y abuelos muy ancianos de quienes escuch?
> cientos de historias de viajes, migraciones, guerras, aventuras,
antepasados
> ilustres y recuerdos personales de su infancia y juventud; indudablemente
> esas historias determinaron mi curiosidad por el estudio del pasado, por
la
> Historia.
>
> Actualmente soy Cronista Municipal de Tejupilco, un municipio del sur
> oeste del Estado de M?xico, doy clases en una Universidad que pertenece a
la
> Red de Universidades An?huac de los Legionarios de Cristo, tambi?n me
> encargo de las relaciones p?blicas y promoci?n de la misma universidad.
>
> Mi familia paterna lleg? en 1553 a Puebla mi primer antepasado en M?xico
> (la Nueva Espa?a) fue Gonzalo G?mez de Betanzos quien lleg? a Puebla de
los
> ?ngeles para ser Corregidor de ?sta reci?n fundada ciudad, una de sus
hijas:
> Juana cas? con el conquistador Francisco G?mez. En el siglo XVII pasan a
> Sultepec y en 1734 a Tejupilco.
>
> Mi abuelo paterno naci? en Tlalpujahua Michoac?n, sus padres nacieron en
> San Felipe del Progreso Estado de M?xico, la familia Contreras posee a?n
> casi la mitad del territorio de todo el municipio. Mi abuela materna naci?
> en San Miguel el Alto Jalisco mas sin embargo no sabemos casi nada de ella
> pues mis abuelos se divorciaron y mi madre junto a sus dos hermanas
quedaron
> bajo la custodia de mi abuelo, quien las separ? y escondi? de su madre a
> quien no volvieron a ver.
>
> Tenemos ?rboles geneal?gicos de casi todas las familias de mi linea
> paterna, y de mi abuelo materno pero no sabemos nada de mi verdadera
abuela,
> por eso me he propuesto investigar la historia de su familia: Valdivia
> S?nchez.
>
> Gracias por aceptarme en su grupo, despu?s de todo un 25% de mi sangre es
> de Jalisco, de San Miguel el Alto. Pongo a su disposici?n mis
conocimientos
> e investigaciones, espero les sirvan de algo, aunque principalmente se
trata
> de estudios demogr?ficos y raciales de Tejupilco en la ?poca Colonial, De
> historia del Sur del Estado de M?xico, Estudios Geneal?gicos de las
familias
> G?mez de Betanzos, Olascoaga, L?pez de Miranda, de Carvajal y Toledo,
> Ram?rez de Arellano, Hidalgo y Costilla, Ben?tez de Ariza, Contreras,
Gama,
> Ca?as, Le?n Campuzano, familias a las que me une parentesco y a las 3
> ?ltimas amistad.
>
> Hasta pronto.
>
> Afectuosamente
>
> Rodolfo Sina?.
>
>
>