Nuestros Ranchos Site

Hi Efrain,

Thanks for the info. I have yet to go to the Family Search Library and check out the additional info (or order it :-) so I guess that is my next step for many records I have.

I went to Jalos a few years ago but to my bad luck the chuch office was closed that day!

Saludos y gracias!!

----- Original Message ----
From: Efrain Conrique
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 4:40:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Origen de los Enriquez en Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, --- and "stuck research"

Sandra,

There are many Enriquez recordings as early colonizers of Nueva Galicia
from which, if any, you can determine your lineage. Some examples of these
are:

> Juan Enriquez de Guzman served with Cortes in his first expedition.
> Martin Enriquez was the 4th Viceroy (1568 - 1583) of Nueva Galicia.
> Enriquez, son of Henry and "originario de Espana" is mentioned as being
in Nueva Espana in 1691.
> Various Enriquez are recorded as being tried in Nueva Espana by the
Spanish Inquisition for relapsing to Judaism.
> Mariano Gonzales-Leal includes --- in his "Retonos de Espana en la Nueva
Galicia" --- Enriquez del Castillo as one of the 117 Spanish families that
arrived to colonize the Los Altos region of Jalisco in 1550

So, in the case of your "stuck research," I suggest that you
begin/continue it by reading the christening record of the twins (Josse
Antonio Yrineo Enrique Gonsales and Josse Vicente Yrineo Enrique Gonsales)
children of Josse Maria Enrique and Maria Nicolaza Gonsales, --- and
christened 17 July 1785 at Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion, Jalostotitlan,
Jalisco. (Ref.: LDS Film # 0279261). These christening records often
include the names of the newborn's grandparents which, in this instance,
would be your 7GGrandparents.

Best of luck in your research, and a Happy New Year to all the Nuestros
Ranchos Internauts !

Efrain Conrique
San diego, California

> [Original Message]
> From: sandragomezmendoza
> To:
> Date: 12/30/2007 8:13:23 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Origen de los Enriquez en Jalostotitlan,
Jalisco
>
>
> Hello to all! Saludos a todos! Hope every one had a great Christmas and
also wishing you the best for the new year!
>
> I'm stuck on my research for my Enriquez family in Jalostotitlan. The
latest couple I have is Jose Maria Enriquez and Maria Nicolasa Gonzalez de
Villasenor. They are my 6GGrandparents. They lived around the mid 1700's.
I can't figure out anything before that. Their son, Jose Vicente Yrineo
Enriquez Gonzalez (who was a twin by the way) was born around 1785 and
married Maria Francisca Romo de Vivar. Vicente's daughter, Maria Gerarda
Enriquez, eventually made her way to Amoxochitl (Juchipila area) and
married my GGGrandfather Jose Maria Enriquez... yes, there were both
Enriquez :-) -- so makes for an interesting line to have 2 last names join
in different towns with who knows what backgroud.
>
> Anyway, any help would be great. Does anyone have any info on the
origins of the Enriquez in La Nueva Galicia?
>
> Saludos!

Hi Joseph,

I too can help with translations when needed. Great work!!!

I'm happy to have found this group!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes

Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:17:59
To:general@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] 2nd of 2008

Moderatorship in the nuestrosranchos.org group can be work and also a
thankless job. The work behind the scenes makes the group function
properly and as the originating moderator of the group I just wanted to
take a moment to thank some special people in the group for their
tremendous help in making the group what it is:

Arturo Ramos for his outrageous above and beyond effort at building the
new website and site website mastery. Your efforts have cause the
tremendous growth in the group. Growth that would have caused the
YahooGroup to fade into extinction. The group was on the brink but with
your help has bounded back to a very healthy group. Sincere thanks Arturo

Kitty Cortez for her tireless efforts at sending out the 15 day and 30
day notices to all the perspective new member applicantes. What an
effort and a warm abrazo Kitty for your help

Alicia Carrillo the Spam Master. You would not believe how much Spam the
group attracts. Thanks to her efforts the Spam never gets to you via
some technological wizardry and some tireless efforts by Alicia.
Muchisimas Alicia!

Enrique Legaspi and John Gonzalez for their help when I needed some
translation work. I sincerely appreciate the willingness of these two
gentlemen to help me when I needed their help to purer and more precise
communication.

I'm hoping that the group propers in 2008 and that your elusive
ancestors make themselves known in your research,

joseph

ps: if Enrique or John wanted to translate this for the rest of the
group. that would be wonderful.

pps: Arturo is always looking for volunteers that have website coding
and functionality skills. I can always use help in case Kitty or Alicia
ever want to take a break. Volunteer positions available.

====================

Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Welcome Joseph to the Nuestros Ranchos family.. You're going to find people just like you who are working on reclaiming their families and share stories and memories of the families who got us here today. What a great way to start the new year and meet new family.. I'm not a blood relative but I guess what they call a kissing cousin since my link to your Banuelos is through the marriage of Virginia ( Cecilia) Banuelos to my Uncle Joe Gutierrez.

How wonderful that you can put your hands on a piece of your history in the music scores. I know when the genealogy bug bit me I couldn't find many articles but the few I did meant a lot to me. I knew my paternal gr-grandmother was small but when I saw her dress pulled from an old trunk I realized what a 4ft 10 woman looked like! Her straw hairbrush's were worn and her rosary was well used. I had been told about her husbands books that he carried from Jerez in 1916 when they left most of their belongings behind. Sadly a family member had sold them at the flea market I was told. My Dad had talked about how when he was a boy he lived with his grandparents for a summer and the "old" men would gather in Grandpa Vicente Castanon's back yard around a camp fire and pass the books around and talk about the revolution, people they had lost and the country they all loved but knew they would never return too. It was a good memory for my Dad but finding the books was a mission
I couldn't fulfill for him. Thank you for sharing your story. Well done!

Welcome to the group, Linda in Everett

Joseph de Leon wrote:

My name is Joseph de Leon. My ancestral roots come from both HUEJUCAR, JALISCO and JEREZ, ZACATECAS. Some of the surnames of my ancestors are: DE LEON, CARLOS, BANUELOS, FLORES, COVARRUBIAS, VILLANEDA, CAMPOS, BORREGO, and many others.

My father's name is Elias de Leon who was born in Huejucar, Jalisco and my mother is Maria del Transito Carlos who was born in Zacatecas, Zac. probably in Jerez, Zac. because that's where most of her ancestors are from.

I am related to the Banuelos family through both my father's side (his mother Petra Flores has a sister named Teodora Flores who married Ysac Banuelos) and my mother's maternal grandmother Vicenta Banuelos who married Manuel Villaneda.

I'd like to visit both Huejucar and Jerez sometime this spring 2008 and see my ancestral land before I die. I know that I have many CARLOS cousins in Zacatecas who have never heard of me.

My goal is to learn when and where my grandfather Francisco Covarrubias was born and when and where he died. He was probably born Abt. 1880 in Huejucar and probably died Abt. 1910-1915 in Piedras Negras but I don't have the proof. He was a music composer ( I still have his original music scores) who was beaten to death by Pancho Villa's thugs because they thought that he had the keys to the local bank.

His father was Nicolas de Leon (also a music composer) who was married to Refugio Covarrubias on 08 Jun 1866 in Huejucar, Jalisco. I have learned that he had 2 brothers and one sister, Pascual, Espiridion, and Maria Eugenia who were all born in Huejucar.

My siblings and my sons all inherited my grandfather's love of music and they compose music as well.

Hi Karr Wolfe...does any of this help or look familar? Let me know...phyls

Descendants of Juan Romo De Vivar Y Rangel

Generation No. 1

1. JUAN ROMO DE VIVAR Y1 RANGEL died December 08, 1691. He married MARIA TISCARENO DE MOLINA Y RUIS DE ESPARZA May 05, 1658 in Aguascalientes, Nueva Galicia, New Spain, daughter of LUIS MARQUEZ and LORENZA DE ESPARZA. She was born March 13, 1633/34 in Aguascalientes, Nueva Galicia, New Spain.

Children of JUAN RANGEL and MARIA DE ESPARZA are:

2. i. JUANA TERESA ROMO DE VIVAR2 TISCARENO, b. 1662, Aguascalientes, Nueva Galicia, New Spain; d. December 24, 1694.

3. ii. ANDRES ROMO DE VIVAR TISCARENO, b. Aguascalientes, Nueva Galicia, New Spain.

Generation No. 2

2. JUANA TERESA ROMO DE VIVAR2 TISCARENO (JUAN ROMO DE VIVAR Y1 RANGEL) was born 1662 in Aguascalientes, Nueva Galicia, New Spain, and died December 24, 1694. She married JOSEPH DE LA ESCALERA Y VALDEZ September 10, 1679 in Aguascalientes, Nueva Galicia, New Spain.

Children of JUANA TISCARENO and JOSEPH VALDEZ are:

4. i. JOSEPH DE LA ESCALERA3 ROMO, b. July 04, 1684, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico.

ii. MARIANA ESCALERA ROMO, b. May 27, 1687, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico; m. DIEGO IGNACIO CARRASCO, February 20, 1707/08, Aguascalientes, Nueva Galicia, Mexico; b. Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico.

3. ANDRES ROMO DE VIVAR2 TISCARENO (JUAN ROMO DE VIVAR Y1 RANGEL) was born in Aguascalientes, Nueva Galicia, New Spain. He married MARIA LOPEZ DE ELIZALDE October 12, 1694 in Aguascalientes, Nueva Galicia, Mexico. She was born in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico.

Children of ANDRES TISCARENO and MARIA DE ELIZALDE are:

i. JOSE MANUEL ROMO3 DE VIVAR, b. 1702, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico.

ii. JOSE MIGUEL ROMO DE VIVAR, b. Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico.

Generation No. 3

4. JOSEPH DE LA ESCALERA3 ROMO (JUANA TERESA ROMO DE VIVAR2 TISCARENO, JUAN ROMO DE VIVAR Y1 RANGEL) was born July 04, 1684 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico. He married MARIA TOMASA DE LUREA 1732 in Aguascalientes, Nueva Galicia, Mexico.

Children of JOSEPH ROMO and MARIA DE LUREA are:

i. JOSE FELIPE4 ESCALERA-LUREA., m. MARIA-GUADALUPE DE LEON, May 06, 1773, San Carlos, Vallecillo, Nuevo Leon, Mexico.

ii. JOSEPH VICENTE ESCALERA LUREA, b. Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico; m. ROSALIA-EMEREMCIANA DE LOS SANTOS ROMO, February 08, 1775, Aguascalientes, Nueva Galicia, Mexico; b. Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico.

iii. JOSEPH-ANTONIO ESCALERA-LUREA, b. Ricon de Ramos, Aguascalientes, Mexico.

iv. MARIA GERTRUDIA ESCALERA LUREA.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karr Wolfe"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:28 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo (de Vivar) Family in Jalisco andAguascalientes

>
> I'm new to this, and I need help connecting my GGG grandfather José de los Santos Romo de Vivar (b.1807) to what seems to be the original location of most of the Romo de Vivar family in the region of Aguascalientes. I have discovered through family records and FamilySearch transcribed christening records a lineage that takes me back to Bernabe ROMO, listed on a baptismal certificate as the father of Gregorio ROMO (b. abt 1780) of Encarnación (de Díaz), Jalisco. But I am having trouble pinning him down. I have found a Bernave ROMO DE VIVAR who married Anna Gertrudis FRANCO in 1761 in Tepatitlán, Jalisco--and those are the names of my ancestor's parents. But the trail goes cold in Tepatitlán, because I can't find out any more about Bernabe (Bernave) ROMO DE VIVAR, even though I am pretty sure that is his correct name.
>
> I have found an IGI record of a man called Bernabe ROMO-DE-VIVAR who was born in 1740 in Rincon de Romos, in the state of Aguascalientes. The only thing that makes him a good candidate is that he was born at the right time, about 20 years before the marriage of Anna Gertrudis FRANCO in 1761--in Tepatitlán, which is pretty far away from Aguascalientes. And to make things worse, there is an IGI listing for a man with exactly the same name who was born 20 years earlier in Rincon de Romos, which is even farther away from Tepatitlán.
>
> How confusing!
>
> I need help finding the right Bernabe (Bernave) Romo de Vivar and getting back on the trail!

Guess we are family :-)

I had the same issue with Bernabe!

It is very common to have records from great distances this way. There was a lot of movement during that time as a lot of families were still settling. Ill email you more info abt Bernabe tonight.

Saludos!!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Karr Wolfe

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:28:46
To:general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo (de Vivar) Family in Jalisco and
Aguascalientes

I'm new to this, and I need help connecting my GGG grandfather José de los Santos Romo de Vivar (b.1807) to what seems to be the original location of most of the Romo de Vivar family in the region of Aguascalientes. I have discovered through family records and FamilySearch transcribed christening records a lineage that takes me back to Bernabe ROMO, listed on a baptismal certificate as the father of Gregorio ROMO (b. abt 1780) of Encarnación (de Díaz), Jalisco. But I am having trouble pinning him down. I have found a Bernave ROMO DE VIVAR who married Anna Gertrudis FRANCO in 1761 in Tepatitlán, Jalisco--and those are the names of my ancestor's parents. But the trail goes cold in Tepatitlán, because I can't find out any more about Bernabe (Bernave) ROMO DE VIVAR, even though I am pretty sure that is his correct name.

I have found an IGI record of a man called Bernabe ROMO-DE-VIVAR who was born in 1740 in Rincon de Romos, in the state of Aguascalientes. The only thing that makes him a good candidate is that he was born at the right time, about 20 years before the marriage of Anna Gertrudis FRANCO in 1761--in Tepatitlán, which is pretty far away from Aguascalientes. And to make things worse, there is an IGI listing for a man with exactly the same name who was born 20 years earlier in Rincon de Romos, which is even farther away from Tepatitlán.

How confusing!

I need help finding the right Bernabe (Bernave) Romo de Vivar and getting back on the trail!

Hello, cousin!
my e-mail is dreamwalker1944@sbcglobal.net

We share a common GGF!

Descendants of Jesus Banuelos

1 Jesus Banuelos 1820 -
.. +Rafaela de Leon Gomes
........ 2 Santos Banuelos 1850 -
............ +Leonides Quejada 1850 -
................... 3 Ysaac Banuelos, Sr. 1881 -
....................... +Teodora Flores 1882 - 1956
................... 3 Santiago Banuelos 1880 -
................... 3 Alejandro de Jesus Banuelos 1872 -
................... 3 Julio Banuelos 1882 -
................... 3 Trinidad Banuelos 1883 -
................... 3 Gumecindo Banuelos 1873 -
................... 3 Ramona Banuelos 1885 -
................... 3 Elena Banuelos 1885 -
................... 3 Monico Banuelos 1874 -
........ 2 Maria Vicenta Banuelos 1840 - 1915
............ +Jose Manuel Villaneda 1840 - 1900
................... 3 Tiburcia Villaneda 1872 - 1947
....................... +Jorge Carlos 1871 - 1921
................... 3 Miguel Villaneda 1867 - 1900
........ 2 Francisco BANUELOS
*2nd Wife of Jesus Banuelos:
.. +Josefa del Real
........ 2 Claro Banuelos 1863 - 1978

Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,

Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Bañuelos and she is a
Quesada. probably we'll tie into your Aunt's family (our cousins).
Rosalinda will know for sure.

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

longsjourney wrote:
> I'm not familiar with the town of Huejucar Jalisco but my Aunt who's family is from there has asked if I could find anything on her families there.
> Her parents were Salvador Banuelos and Emma Madrid no dates but approx. 1900 in Huejucar
> Salvadors parent Issac Banuelos and Teodora or Todora Flores abt 1875
> Teodora Flores's parents were Marcos Flores and Andrea Sandoval married 19 Feb 1867 in Huejucar
> Salvadors parents were Santos Banuelos and Leonides Quesada married 20 April 1871 in Huejucar.
>
> I've found children for these parents but no parents for Santos Banuelos or Leonides Quesada. My Aunt was told that Santos father was Francisco Banuelos from Spain but I've found nothing to prove that. Is anyone working any of these lines from Huejucar Jalisco Mexico?
>
> Thanks, Linda in Everett

Hola ,perdon la tardanza y tambien mi espanol. Yo no creo que hubo influencia Frances en Los altos por la razon que llegaron los franceses como en los 1850's y los mandaron para Francia como en 1865. Handuvieron en los cuidades grandes y puertos de Mexico. Yo pienso (con respecto) que no habia una base de importancia para los Frances en Los Altos. En Los Altos en aquel tiempo de los 1850's no habia industria que ayudaba pagar la deuda que dicen los frances que Mexico tenia con ellos. Yo no noto la influecia Frances en la comida,arquitectura,idioma ect.Lo que tiene es mucha influencia espanola y algo de indigena. Asi pienso y opinion
haber como piensas.
Ronnie Reynoso Pariente a casi todos de Los Altos> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: gutiherre@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:19:40 -0800> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] LOS MITOS SEFARDITA Y FRANCES (ALTOS DE JALISCO)> > > Frecuentemente se menciona tanto gente de los altos como externa a ellos que los alteños se desciende de sangre sefardita y de igual manera se dice de familias francesas; bueno acudo a este grupo para hacerles a ustedes esta pregunta y saber que piensan ustedes al respecto. Espero sus comentarios, gracias. ATTE.: Gutiérrez de Mendoza y González de Hermosillo > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org

I think the concept of kidnapping that you are talking about is what we think about today as eloping. Basically the couple ran away to get married without parental consent.

Just my two centavos,
Angie

Glad to hear I'm not the only one with a "stolen" grandmother. In fact, she was from El Durazno but left at the priests home in Jerez (that's abt 5 miles away) for 3 days while marriage arrangements were made. I'm sure my grandmothers parents were interested in saving their/her honor so marriage was the only option for this 14 year old girl.

Linda

Latina1955@aol.com wrote:
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children Spanish....I said he should speak to them in Spanish, and I would in
English...but he refused...and now both children regret not knowing the gift
that our parents bestowed upon us...for giving the gift of language is
understanding...

I digress...I wanted to address the subject of "kidnapping"...in truth, this
was a wide spread practice...particularly in communities that had not set up
accepted rituals. My father-in-law- "robo" my mother-in-law...and their
stories naturally differ...but when I was first exposed to this practice, I
realized that this was not new...indeed the practice of having a best man results
from the European ritual of taking a bride with the assistance of friends...

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Have you tried different spellings, maybe its written incorrectly. Maybe its Sevilla, because there are several, in DF, Monterrey, Guadalupe and Moriarty.

Both my maternal gradmother and mother were "kidnapped". My mother was 19 and already dating my father. She went out into the patio one night and my dad and a friend grabbed her and took her to his great aunts house. She didn't even have shoes on. It is kind of sad because, even though she loved my father very much, she wasn't quite ready to get married yet.

Her father and mother's story is really sweet. My grandfather and grandmother lived across the path from each other and one day as they were talking, my grandfather pulled my grandma across to his house, and that was that. She's been driving him crazy ever since. :)
Maria Huerta

Hi Aida,

Yes, of course, Aida, I think your Juan Jose married to Manuela de la Vega
may very well be connected to the other Juan Jose married to Juana Maria
Villegas. Unfortunately there are very few christening records for Jerez and
Tepetongo before 1750.

I haven't been to Tlaltenango, but I think it's not too far from Tepetongo
and Jerez.

Regards,
Hector

-----Mensaje original-----
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Aida
Garralda
Enviado el: Jueves, 13 de Diciembre de 2007 08:45 p.m.
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Fw: ACEVEDO

Hector:

Thank you so much for the information, my Juan Jose Acevedo was married to
Manuela de la Vega; since the only records are their sons marriages, I
think they must have married between 1750 and 1773, as their first son was
born in 1773. His name was Jose Torribio. I appreciate your information is
Tlatenango close to Tepetongo?
There could still possibly be a connection don't you think?

Thank you
Aida
garralda@cox.net

----- Original Message -----
From: Héctor Felix Aizcorbe
To: garralda@cox.net
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:52 AM
Subject: ACEVEDO

Aida:

Attached is an Excel file which shows the ancestro of Maria Luisa de Acevedo
y Alarcon, my ancestor, the sister of Juan Jose de Acevedo.

Regards,

Hector

I live in Grand Terrace. It is great to meet you and I will tell you how the story ends.

Sylvia Rodriguez Robles

I live in the Inland Empire of Southern California. My grandfather and all of his siblings fled (because of the Mexican Revolution)Teocaltiche in 1917 for Peach Springs, Arizona and ultimately permanently settling in Needles, CA.
We were told they all fled because they were forced to make saddles and other leather goods such as holsters for Pancho Villa's "Posse." I know from reading history now that General Carranza had orders to kill any Villa symphathizers..I do not know if he is the culprit, other than they fled for their lives under threat of harm.
I just bought and recieved Nicolas Sanchez De Anda's book: "Teocaltiche: La Importancia De Sus Hijos."

I have a small book I bought in 1997 while visitng Teocaltiche, same author, "Teocaltiche: Tierra de Arrieros Y Hacendados Con Familias Ilustres." I bought it from the town cronista who is also the author's uncle?

Page 25 list my great grandfather Mauro Rodriguez as one of the most well known Talabarteros-leathercraftsmen of the present and last century.

Interestingly, I have met on two occasions young women who are Rodriguez from the same town with the same history of leathercraftsmen in ther family history. They are, however, recent immigrants with closer ties to their history. I am the lost tribe I guess. I was treated as a real surpise when I asked the cronista for information on the Rodriguez who were leather craftsmen in town named Rodriguez. First, I was told I could not be from that family, so I said fine give me the other Rodriguezes. No no other just us.

I would like to share this tie with Nicolas De Anda. I mean 80 years of a gap and finding each other just randomly in town. It would be fun to document the tie.
Other names were included as working in thie craft: Aguilera, Arroyo, Garcia, Gonzalez, Rameriz, Sandoval, Rodriguez-Ruiz.

Are any of you out there?

Sylvia Rodriguez Robles

Rosanne,
I checked out the "borderland books," website that you noted, but did not
locate any books written by Nicolás de Anda Sanchez. Are Mr. Sanchez'
books only available by contacting George Farias?
Pat Silva Corbera
Tracy CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose Hardy"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:56 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] New book by Nicolas de Anda Sanchez
regardingTeocaltiche, Jalisco

>
> Nicolas has just published his latest book "Historia de Teocaltiche Pueblo
> de La Region Caxcana Nueva Galicia-Zona de Los Altos de Jalisco". This
> book covers the history of area as well as naming well known families in
> the Teocaltiche area.
>
> He mentions owners of haciendas and ranchos. He lists the ranchos in the
> district of Teocaltiche which includes: Agua Blanca, Aguegotita, Alaznas,
> Alconero, Anoria, Atepoca de Arriba, Atepoca de Abajo, Atotonilco, Belen,
> Bocadito, Buenavista Calera, Calerita, Canada del Mezquite,Canada Grande,
> Cienega de los Tejedas, Cofradia, Custique, El Catalan, El Refugio, El
> Santo, El Tablero, Gavilan, Haciendita, Jabonera, Las Animas, Las Trojes,
> Los Amoles, Los Carrillo, Los Gregorios, Mascua, Mendocina, Morisco,
> Nangue, Parras, Paso de Canas, Pedregoso, Pueblito, Puera de Cornejo,
> Rancho Viejo, Rincon de Abajo, Rincon del Zapatero, Rio Chico, Salitre,
> San Antonio, San Marcos, Santa Barbara, Tequesquite de Abajo, Tequesquite
> de Arriba, Villita de Ornelas.
>
> He has a list of Ranchos in Mexticacan and Paso de Sotos also.
>
> My research partner David Valdez y Marquez and I are also listed in
> Nicolas' bibiliography. Dave had shared information with Nicolas during
> our findings while extracting information from films in Aguascalientes,
> Aguascalientes and Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Needless to say Dave and I found
> out we are also related to Nicolas about 11 generations back.
>
> I have contacted George Farias at Borderlands Bookstore in order to obtain
> a copy of this new book. George also sells Nicolas' other two books
> covering Teocaltiche, Jalisco.
>
> http://www.borderlandsbooks.com/index.asp
>
>
> About the author:
>
> http://www.teocaltiche.gob.mx/comunidad/personajes/nicolasdeandasanchez…
>
>
> Rosanne Gonzales-Hardy
> Fresno, CA

I have maternal line ties to Pinos, Zacatecas. I also visited in 1997 and met with the town cronista and bought three books he published. One I gave to a cousin and the balance were borrowed and never returned.

It has been my experience that not all records are extracted, e.g. page by page. I am finding that those records I have been able to decipher, easily, are not on any IGI list. in other reserach for my Jalisoc line, I have found that greatfather now on the IGI. He had not been in the last 10 years.

Sylvia Rodriguez Robles