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I have been researching for about 2 years and have hit a brick wall. My 6x great grandfather was Blas Esteban Franco who married Margarita Liberata de Aiola Ramires on 08 Oct. 1736 in Tepatitlan, Jalisco. Below is the link to their marriage record. The record is found in the upper left hand side of the page.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18570-65953-5?cc=1874591&wc=…

In the marriage record it states that Pedro Franco and Micaela Baeza were Blas Esteban's parents. I haven't been able to find any information on the parents so that is were my road ends. I was able to get a hold of the book Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia by Don Mariano Gonzalez-Leal. I wasn't able to find any mention of my family line in the chapter about the Franco family. I know that one of the patriarchs was Pedro Franco de Paredes and that he had an illegitimate son who he named Pedro. Could this Pedro be my 7x great-grandfather or could he be a link to my family?

If anybody has researched this family and can give me any information, please let me know. I am so thankful for this forum and for the many members who help the novice researchers like me. Again thank you.
Anita

Alguien me puede ayudar como puedo encontrar una familia que algunos de sus miembros aparecen en la Santa Veracruz y otros aparecenen en el templo de la Asuncion, Sagrario Metropolitano pero el resto no aparece en los registros ya indexados, sabe alguien si hay algunos registros sin idexar entre 1608 y 1650 mas o menos?

Hello,

Trying to find anyone that is related to Julian Covarrubias who was married to Rafaela Ramirez in the 1700's in Jalisco. thanks

I stumbled across this and thought I'd share. Its a great Article and short video on the impact of DNA testing on genealogical research and its industry. Very exciting.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/7/4258094/who-am-i-data-and-dna-solve-on…

Summary:

In the past few years, finding and charting one’s family history has become trendy because it’s also become a lot easier to get started. Companies like Ancestry.com and FamilySearch have spent the last decade or so making all of their tools, records, and data available on the internet, revolutionizing genealogical research — and significantly lowering the barrier to entry in the process. What was once a pastime for older people or professionals with disposable income is quickly becoming a more mainstream pursuit. Taking a peek into the past now requires nothing more than a decent internet connection and a laptop. DNA testing, which just a few years ago cost thousands of dollars and offered little information for genealogists, is now a growing consumer option, reaching back hundreds of years to provide undreamed of amounts of information about our ancestors.

Happy Mothers Day!
Pauline

Hello Everyone,
I am wondering if anyone can assist in reading this baptism record for my 3rd great grand aunt, Maria Josefa Soledad Roman... not being fluent in Spanish, I know I am missing some words. What I am really trying to figure out is the last name of the grandmother. Anything will be great and I will be grateful!

Thank you all!

Here is the link to my family tree on Ancestry.com:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/1117001/person/6132442698/media/47bdc036…

Or the link to FamilySearch.org: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15049-21140-10?cc=1804458&wc…

(and it is the left page, 3rd down from the top).

Thank you all again for any assistance.

Kristine Wulf

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Hello,
Does anyone know who the parents were of Maria de Salcedo, she was married to Bacilio Ruis de Velasco? Are they Luis Antonio de Salcedo and Ana Gomez de Espejo OR Lucas Rodriguez de Salcedo and Maria Vasquez de Lara OR who?
Thank you,
Arlene Torres

Estimados Miembros,
Que quiere decir la frase "indios casiques"?

En esta dispensa de 1705 los abuelos maternos de Alvaro de Guzman, mestizo, residente en Autlán son Dn. Marcos de Montezuma y Da. Magdalena de Escobar "indios casiques del pueblo de Chalco del Arzo. de Mexco"

Quiere decir que eran gobernantes de Chalco, ahora en le Estado de México? O la palabra cacique ha cambiado su significado?

La frase se encuentra casi al final de la página derecha, en la cuarta y quinta línea contando de abajo hacia arriba.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-25218-21?cc=1874591&wc…

Muchas gracias!

Sergio

Una pregunta sobre oficios en Jalisco:

Qué querrá decir la frase "Hsiantes en la Puente"? No me hace sentido. Podría ser una abreviatura de un oficio? O tal vez la abreviatura de "Habitantes"?

De ser habitantes, existe una hacienda o pueblo cerca de Autlán que se llame la Puente?

La palabra a la que me refiero está en el matrimonio de Christoval Tadeo de Araisa en la página derecha de la imágen a la que anexo el link.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18522-2507-10?cc=1874591&wc=…

Alguna idea?

Gracias!

Sergio

Hola Mis Amigos -
My name is Luis Lozano from Robstown, Texas - I have been a member for
less than a month.  My lineage has led me to a brick wall and I am wondering
if anyone else is doing research on the Lozano family.  I am looking for information
relating to Cristobal Lozano and Beatriz Delgado who married in Aguascalientes
on Feb 16, 1706.  Also their son Manuel Antonio who married 1st Gertrudis
Carrion - it's unclear whether they married in Aguascalientes or Vallecillo, Nuevo
Leon where he married Antonia Margarita Garcia.  I appreciate your help.
Luis

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Hello,

I was wondering what books, if any (English or Spanish) do the seasoned veterans of the genealogy pursuit recommend as "must reads" for those wanting to expand knowledge on the history of Mexico, genealogy research, or other relevant/vital topics. I have enjoyed/appreciated the help of so many of you over the months and years and would appreciate any direction to further expand my historical genealogical education.

Thanks in advance,
Monica

Hola,

Qusiera saber cuales libros, en sus opiniones (Inglés o Español) recomiendan como "Debe Lee" para aquellos que quieran ampliar conocimientos sobre la historia de México, la investigación genealógica, u otros temas relevantes/vital. He disfrutado/agradeció la ayuda de muchos de ustedes veteranos de la busqueda genealogíca, en estos meses y años. Agradecería cualquier dirección para seguir ampliando mi formación genealógica histórica.

Gracias de antemano,
Monica

to Roy
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> My 4th great grandparents' marriage record:
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> Juaquin Choperena y Victoriana Martinez were married on 16Sept1801.
> I believe Juaquin was born in Navarra, Spain to Pedro Jose Choperena y Maria Bautista Yndart about 1771.
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> However, I'm having trouble figuring out the birthplace and parents of Victoriana.
> Was she born in Spain or Juanacati? Was her father a 16-year old neighbor?
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> I'd appreciate any help.
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> Victoriana is 32, she was born in "Mesa del Fraile" and she 's living in Juanacati about 16 years ( vecina), she was the widow of Pedro Yanos Valdez, who's corps has been buried in this parroquia, 5 months ago. they dont mention her parents as she's a widow Julieta
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My paternal great grandmother was Maria Ysabel Caballero, baptised 16Dec1860 in Totatiche, Jalisco. Daughter of Tranquilino Caballero y Maria Juliana de la Trinidad Avila

source:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18685-15759-46?cc=1874591&wc…

I have now found another child of Tranquilino Caballero y Trinidad D'abila, baptised on 01Mar1864 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Ramon, Zacatecas.

source:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15530-33887-83?cc=1804458&wc…

This record indicates Ysabel was a male child. Was this name actually used for both sexes? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Saludos,
Roy

Hello Group,
In the past, I've summitted concern and read similar concerns from other members of a general drop in posts and receiving responses to member posts never having received the initial request to the group. 
From time to time I've seen/received posts from the following sites:
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research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Could these additional sites explain the drop in posts?  I'd appreciate it if someone would please explain how they are different from the general, research, and announcement nuestros ranchos sites?  I'm not sure how long they've been in existence and who is privy to their use.  I'd be dismayed if I've been missing any additional research resources available to my group membership.  Thanks so much, Alice
 

• nameJosef Maria Coronado
• genderMale
• burial date02 Oct 1816
• burial placeGuadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
• death date
• death place
• age60
• birth date1756
• birthplace
• occupation
• raceNative American
• marital statusMarried
• spouse's nameMaria Rosalia Lopez
• father's name
• father's birthplace
• mother's name
• mother's birthplace
• indexing project (batch) numberB03682-4
• system originMexico-EASy
• gs film number1108100
• reference idLibro 1 Pag 57

I am trying to figure out a relationship: the above-named couple certainly married, as proved by the baptismal records of three of their children (Beatríz, 1712, Teocaltiche; Sebastián, 1717, San Juan de los Lagos; and Monica Gertrudis, 1729, Jalostotitlán—and, yes, they seemed to move around a bit) and the marriages of two others (Ana Juliana m. Juan Joseph Pantaleon de Aceves in 1745 in Jalos; and María Margarita m. Xptovál Joseph Gomes Cornejo in 1741, also in Jalos). In each of these records—whether baptisms or marriages—the names of the parents are explicitly stated.

There is also a marriage record dated 14 January 1686 in Teocaltiche of Nicolás Romo de Vibar and Mariana de Villalobos. The parents of Nicolás are given as Diego Romo de Vibar and Luisa de los Anjeles, who I presume is María Luisa de los Ángeles Villalobos Castillo de Sandi; and the names of the parents of Mariana are given as Nicolás de Villalobos (ya defunto) and Teresa Carrillo.

My questions, then, are these: (1) how are the two women, both named Mariana de Villalobos, related, if at all; and (2) where does Diego Romo de Vibar fit into that family—in other words, are Diego and Nicolás related? I might be tempted to think that the two Marianas are the same person, except that a marriage in 1686 would mean that she would have had to have given birth to a child in 1729 in the 43rd year following her first marriage—an unlikely occurrence.

The line I am following is that of Diego and Mariana, named in the subject line. Any documented light that can be shed on these questions will be gratefully appreciated.

Sinceremente,
Lawrence Bouett

cónyuge: Maria López
hijo: José Abrahám Coronado
Nombre José Abrahám Coronado
Sexo Male
Fecha de bautismo 29 Mar 1895
Lugar de bautismo Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
Fecha de nacimiento
Lugar de nacimiento
Fecha de la defunción
Nota sobre el nombre
Raza
Nombre del padre Pablo Coronado
Lugar de nacimiento del padre
Edad del padre
Nombre de la madre Maria López
Lugar de nacimiento de la madre
Edad de la madre
Nombre del abuelo paterno
Nombre de la abuela paterna
Nombre del abuelo materno
Nombre de la abuela materna
Número de lote o batch I06479-8
Sistema de origen Mexico-EASy
Número de microfilm de FamilySearch 38343
Identificador de referencia v 83 p 327
AGRADECERÉ TODA LA INFORMACION QUE SE ME OTORGUE.

Here is a picture of Nuevo Espana (Mexico) in the year 1650. What is helpful is the names of the different sections such as:

"Reino De La Nuevo Galicia" "Reino De La Nuevo Viscaya"
"Nuevo Reino De Leon" "Reino De La Nuevo Espana"

This is interesting as when I had been browsing through the baptism records and saw those names mentioned above and now know what it refers to:

http://imageshack.us/a/img191/2060/nuevoespanamexico1650.jpg

Source:

http://proyectohistoria8.blogspot.com/2012_11_01_archive.html

Also came across this drawing of what Teuchitlan, Jalisco may have looked like during Pre-Colombian times. Interesting:

http://imageshack.us/a/img5/79/jaliscod.jpg

The Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society will be hosting its 4th Annual
Conference September 2013 at the California State Archives. There is a
flyer with all the details at the following link:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/21475

The Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society will be hosting its 4th Annual
Conference September 2013 at the California State Archives. There is a
flyer with all the details at the following link:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/21475

Since there were so many discoveries on another Castañeda forum, I thought I'd try again.

I'm trying to get more info, anything, on Castañedas from Atolinga, Zac.

Here's what I have:

Alexandro Castañeda b. abt 1760
wife: Maria Calendaria Ramirez b. abt 1760

son: José Antonio Castañeda b. abt 1783 (I have marriage cert)
wife: María Eugenia de Aro b. abt 1783

son: Julio de Jesús b. 1802
wife: María Mónica de Refugio Gonzales b. 1812

son: Juan Castañeda b. abt 1830 (3rd great-grandfather)
wife: Jesús Segobia b. abt 1830

Thanks!
Laura Gonzalez

Hello,
I couldn't locate the marriage records for Calvillo that took place from October to mid-November. It seems that pages 46 & 47, which correspond to these dates, are missing in the marriage book. The pages go from 45 to 48, and the Record Number from 192 to 200:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11613-122856-98?cc=1502404…

Has anyone come across these pages? If so please let me know as I'm looking for the wedding of Francisco Narciso Huerta & Remigia Gonzalez. Their marriage investigation was completed on 11 Oct 1777.

Thanks, Arturo

Is there any other place to look up records? we are directed to familysearch, and it use to be a great site I had been able to get info on that website but they have recently "updated" their system and now all you get is RECORD NOT FOUND I put in correct bith dates parents ect. it does not matter you get that message every time and I know its not just me, some how I accidentally stumbbled on their comment section. I went thru about 80 negative comments and only 2 positive ones.