Hello,
My name is Linda Naranjo and I live in Seattle, WA.
I am looking for any information on Naranjo, Covarrubias or Franco in the San Gabriel, Jal. area. Their descendants traveled to La Cienega, near El Limon.
Hello all --
In case there's anyone with Pineda/Pinedo roots in the Zacatecas area, my father recently received his yDNA results. They're posted on the Mexico DNA site. According to Gary Felix, our line is Q-M242. However, he seems to think that it's not Native American, but rather from Central Asia/Middle East. I'm wandering if we need to do the 25 or 37 marker test -- does anyone have a view about any of this.
Here's the entry for our results -- it's the information I've learned to date, along with the close matches that Gary Felix found:
Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas > Mesquital del Oro, Zacatecas > Tlaltenango, Zacatecas > Laredo, Texas. Haplogroup Q. Found in the Middle East and Central Asia. See these 10 YDNA matches to DYS19=15 DYS389I=12 (1 step off from 13) DYS389II=27 (1 step off from 28) DYS390=24 DYS391=10 DYS392=14 DYS393=13 DYS385=14-16 and DYS439=11 to 2 of 236 Mendoza, Argentina [European], 2 of 357 Mexico City, Mexico [Mestizo], 2 of 70 Assiut, Egypt [Egyptian], 1 of 122 Noord-Brabant, Netherlands [Dutch], 1 of 163 Israel & Palestinian Authority Area [Arab], 1 of 106 Saudi Arabia [Saudi] and 1 of 533 Central Portugal, Portugal [Portuguese] in this - YHRD database search. Oldest Ydna ancestor - Gregorio Pinedo, son of Bartolo Pinedo and Maria Gonzalez, married in 1834 in Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas>Pedro Pinedo b. circa 1851>Nicanor Pinedo b. circa 1882>Jesus Maria Pineda b. 1930.
If anyone else knows of any Pinedas or Pinedos who've done the test, or who otherwise also has a similar Q-M242 line, please let me know. Thanks!
Chris Pineda
Just got this today, can't wait to read it! I'm so excited.
Laura
Thank you Armando for your reply.
I have several Santiago De Pedroza in my family tree. the one I'm having dificulty finding is the parents for Santiago De Pedroza born in 1595 (place unknown) married to Juana Bautista De Alba Y Retamosa born in 1599 or 1600 (place unknown). I'm thinking that they came from Spain
I'm having a minor difficulty in this website I can not find the Informacion Matrimonial for the year 1760 in Nochistlan Zacatecas.
Alguien sabe donde se encuentra este rancho o poblado de la villa de Jerez, en este lugar murio en 1717 el Capitan Joseph Sanchez-Castellanos, yo supongo que estaba cerca de Susticacan ya que un sirviente que murio fue enterrado en este lugar.
Thanks to the members of Nuestros Ranchos on the great information that you have personally provided me with regard to Y-DNA, genealogy, etc. (especially Armando A).
I just found out about a free online course on Genome Science being offered by Penn (Un. of Pennsylvania). The University course description is as follows:
>
Experimental Genome Science
John Hogenesch, John Isaac Murray (These are the two instructors)
"Each of our cells contains nearly identical copies of our genome, which provides instructions that allow us to develop and function. This course serves as an introduction to the main laboratory and theoretical aspects of genomics and is divided into themes: genomes, genetics, functional genomics, systems biology, single cell approaches, proteomics, and applications."
It sounds far too scientific for my liberal arts background but there may be some of you that will want to consider it. It begins October 15th and is 12 weeks long. It states that you will need to devote 6/8 hours of study per week. For those of you that sign up and complete the course they will provide you with a certificate upon completion. The web site is at: https://www.coursera.org/#course/genomescience
Rolando M. Romo
Hello Group,
Help reading this defuncion from 1668 would be appreciated. It's the second half I don't understand: en la parroquia...two names are mentioned, but I don't understand the context. Again, help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much, Alice
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159380-55213-61?cc=1410092&w…
Hey everyone so im currently at the San Jose State Library what interesting books can I find here about early settlers in Mexico or something interesting that falls in that category.
So iv'e been having a hard time trying to find this ancestor of mines Victoriana Ponce.My grandmaother told me that she was from Clabellinas Aientos Aguascalientes and later she moved to La Estancia de los Delgadillos near Nochistlan and she married Dario Garcia.I went over the 1930 census in that area where she was from but no Victoriana Ponce I did find some individuals with that last name but i have no clue if they are realted.Victoriana Ponce is my grandmothers grandmother.So please if anyone can help me feel free thank you
Hey everyone so im currently at the San Jose State Library what interesting books can I find here about early settlers in Mexico or something interesting that falls in that category.
I'm a lil' confused:
Does primo-hermano mean that both sets of parents are siblins to each other or can just ONE parent from one cousin be a sibling of ONE parent of the other cousin?
My own two oldest brothers married two oldest sisters of another same family. Obviously their children have identical mutual DNA, and thus, they are akin to being all almost siblings. But what if it was ONLY one parent and his sibling parent? Are their children still called primo-hermanos??
Sleepless in Hayward
Joseph de Leon
I just came across a more "liberal arts friendly" online course on genetics. Also free.
Introduction to Genetics and Evolution (Duke Un)
Mohamed Noor
A whirlwind introduction to evolution and genetics, from basic principles to current applications, including how disease genes are mapped and how we leverage evolutionary concepts to aid humanity. It startss October 10th, 10 weeks long, provides a certificate upon completion.
Web link: https://www.coursera.org/#course/geneticsevolution
Does anyone have any info on both of these individuals i'm trying to find their parents they are both from Nochistlan Zacatecas Mexico.I descend from their child Juan Jose De Armas.
Hola a todos,
Me gustaria saber si alguien tiene fechas o datos
sobre sus primeros dos matrimonios. Solamente he
encontrado su tercer matrimonio con Michaela
Rosales el primero de Marzo de 1737 en Colotlan,
Jalisco. Menciona que era originario de los reinos
de Castilla. Tambien he encontrado mucha informacion
sobre sus hijos que tuvo con Lorensa Madera pero no
se si seria su primera o segunda esposa. Cualquier
ayuda se agradece.
Gracias,
Gustavo Carrillo
Hello Again,
Does anyone have Santiago De Pedroza married to Maria De La Cruz in their family tree?
their son was Francisco De Pedroza married to Juana Lopez De La Serda.
Juanita,
I hope the following is helpful to you.
En el año del Señor de mil ochocientos ochenta y nueve a veintie de Octubre en la iglesia parroquial de Mesquitic yo el Presbitero Dn. Jesús Ma. Colunga Cura parroco de esta jurisdiccion
bauticé solemnemente, puse Oleo y Crisma a un infante de nueve dias de nacido a quien puse por nombre Pilar h. l. [hija legítima] de Pedro Baldes y de Maliana [Matiana] Sandate vecinos de San
Pedro fue su madrina Florenlina [Florentina] Valdes a quienes advertí su obligación y parentesco espiritual. Y para que conste, lo firmé con el señor Cura.
In the year of the Lord one thousand eight hundred eighty and nine on 20 October in the parish church of Mesquitic I the Priest Don Jesus Maria Colunga pastor of this district solemnly baptized
and administered Oil and Chrism to an infant born nine days ago whom I named Pilar legitimate daughter of Pedro Baldes and of Matiana Sandate residents of San Pedro her godmother was
Florentina Valdes whom I advised of her spiritual obligation and relationship. In order to be registered, I signed it with the Pastor.
[note: Even though the names of the women are written with an "l", I used the standard spelling with a "t". There are also many other writing errors.]
David in Albany CA
On Wed 26/09/12 6:31 PM , juanitahenniger@msn.com sent:
> I need a little reading a baptismal record that I found. 'm looking for
> information on my great grandfather (Pilar Valdez) and my great grandmother
> (Romana Tovar) who moved from Mexico to Texas in 1912 with their two
> daughters (Elisa and Herlinda. Any ways I found the following record and
> I'm having a little trouble reading the names. I would appreciate any help
> confirming what I believe is my great grandfather's baptismal record.
> I think the name of the child is Pilar Baldes (I'm making the assumption
> that the name is mispelled or at least I'm hoping. My great great
> grandparents were Pedro Valdez and Matina Sandate. Would someone be kind
> enough to help me translate the record. Thank you.
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20420-25423-54?cc
> =1860864&wc=11680485
Hello
I found an unusual name in the marriage records for Aguascalientes - Dona Maria Josefa Brickdale, padrina for Don Jose Luis Ruiz de Esparza(from Valladolid) and Dona Anna Maria Peredo (from Leon).The padrino is Don Pedro de Herrera Leyva. Not someone I am looking for, but since there can't be many Brickdales in Mexico in the late 1700's (1792), thought I would pass it along. The man who wrote the entry was very careful to write the name with "ck" and all the letters in the name are easy to make out.
here is the link
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11759-70592-55?cc=1410092&…
I checked familysearch and found this woman, together with a Simon Herrera Leyba, as parents of a girl: Maria Dolores Loreto Herrera Brickdale:
https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenna…
The christening was 16 dec 1791 in Aguascalientes (Sagrario)
But the marriage record for Maria Josefa was not indexed.
No Brickdale showed up on a search within NR, but maybe someone out there can use this anyway - someday!
Regards
Denise
Maria.....thank you so much for checking......those Liendos of mine are VERY elusive and enjoy hiding from me. I am determined to find them.....someday! :-) Josie
On Sep 26, 2012, at 5:04 PM, general-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. To Josie: Catalago del Archivo del Registro Publico (mcortez)
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:56:03 -0700
> From: mcortez
> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] To Josie: Catalago del Archivo del
> Registro Publico
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>>
>> Hi Josie,
>>
> Absolutely, I have time to check. Unfortunately, there are no LIENDO or
> LIENDRO surnames in the book. It goes from LEQUERICA to LIZAOLA Y CUETO.
> Keep looking...something will turn up when you least expect it.
>
> Abrazos,
>
> Maria
>
Attn: List members,
I was viewing the FamilyTreeDNA website, and was surprised to see that the autosomal test was on sales for the next 72 hours...
Originally priced at $289.00 it is now $199.00
Many of the other tests are also at a reduced price...
Pat Silva Corbera
Tracy CA
I've been reading with interest, but with little comprehension, the posts re DNA tests.
What is this "autosomal" thing? Does it cost extra? How is it listed in FTDNA?
I sent in kits for my husband, Antonio Garcia, and myself. My husband's was the YDNA12 and mine was mtDNA, the most basic tests that were on sale for half price at the time due to our fixed income.
My haplogroup was determined to be C, Native American, Pre-Columbian. My mother was a Piro/Tewa from New Mexico.
My husband's haplogroup is T1, Mesopotamian. His people from Jalisco claimed never to have "mixed with Indians" but he was hoping to prove them wrong. His hero is Benito Juarez who was a Zapotec Indian, and he was hoping that somewhere in his lines there was Indian blood, but alas, no. He was crestfallen. I told him that he shares the same haplogroup as a Roman emporer and czars and several crowned heads of Europe, but he was not impressed. He admires the indigenous people of Mexico more.
I find the FTDNA site hard to navigate and hard to find explanations of their various "products" offered. I did find a match for my husband by signing up for their YSearch.org site, someone in Texas by the surname Camacho whose ancestor was a Silva. I have e-mailed this person via the FTDNA system to see if there is a common ancestor. There are no Camacho or Silva in my husband's lines.
My husband's tree is here at NR in the gedcom files. Does anyone with ancestors from Jalisco (Encarnacion de Diaz, Lagos de Moreno, etc) also have haplogroup T1?
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
Can any one tell me where can I locate de "Dispensas Matrimoniales" I am looking for one that the marriage was in Guanajuato but just to belong to the diocesis de Michoacan at that time year 1841.
thank you
>
> Hi Josie,
>
Absolutely, I have time to check. Unfortunately, there are no LIENDO or
LIENDRO surnames in the book. It goes from LEQUERICA to LIZAOLA Y CUETO.
Keep looking...something will turn up when you least expect it.
Abrazos,
Maria
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:04:47 -0500
> From: "Josie T. Trevino"
> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] General Digest, Vol 80, Issue 5
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>
> Hi Maria,
>
> If you have time......would you please look up the surname "LIENDO" and
> sometimes it was spelled "LIENDRO"........I am at a big roadblock with this
> surname in Zacatecas in the late 1600s and the 1700s. From Zacatecas they
> went on to Saltillo but I am needing anything in Zacatecas that I can
> find......Thanks, Maria.......you are so generous!
>
> Hugs,
>
> Josie
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2012, at 5:04 PM, general-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.orgwrote:
>
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 06:29:48 -0700
> > From: mcortez
> > To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Catalago del Archivo del Registro Publico
> > de la Propiedad de Guadalajara
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> CAO0qYYm40QSkFApHEdMp9HvAxGr1z8UJqbMewYAR73iLHJ9+eQ@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > I borrowed the book: Cat?logo del archivo del Registro P?blico de la
> > Propiedad de Guadalajara : libros, de hipotecas 1566-1820 / by David J.
> > Robinson & Linda Greenow from the California State Library. This book
> > is a Catalog
> > and indexes of the mortgage records of the Archive of the Public Register
> > of Property of Gualalajara. The register was established at the request
> of
> > don Manuel de Mena, escribano publico mayor del Cabildo de Guadalajara
> > (Public Scribe) in March 1721. The Notary was aware of the many
> fraudulent
> > real estate transactions and he wanted to establish this register to
> combat
> > fraud. The Spanish Crown agreed and the register was established. Some
> > transactions recorded also include the sale/purchase of mines, dowry
> > letters, etc.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > There are indexes in the back of the book by name(s) and places that
> makes
> > it easy to look up the name of an ancestor or the sale of a specific
> > Hacienda, rancho, etc. I have been able to find the ranchos and haciendas
> > where some of my ancestors lived and I was able to learn who bought and
> > sold the rancho or hacienda along with the date of the transaction. For
> > example, I looked up Hacienda del Carrizo where my de la Mora ancestors
> > lived, and found this entry: #977, Mo/Year 6.1737, Nombre del Principal:
> de
> > la Mora, Hurtado, Josef, Propiedades: Cuquio: H. El Carrizo, L. de
> > Mesticacan; H. Sitio los Serritos; Guad: C.**
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > My question is, where can I find the actual documents? Would these
> > documents be part of the Tierras y Propiedades or some other collection
> of
> > documents?****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > If anyone would like me to do a lookup for them please let me know.
> >
> >
> > Maria Cortez
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
...I'd like to remind members that I have created a file with NR members results of Native American mtDNA results (maternal lines only) - please contact me via private message if you would like to include your results in the database.
To view the current file: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/20642
Saludos,
Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com
I need a little reading a baptismal record that I found. 'm looking for information on my great grandfather (Pilar Valdez) and my great grandmother (Romana Tovar) who moved from Mexico to Texas in 1912 with their two daughters (Elisa and Herlinda. Any ways I found the following record and I'm having a little trouble reading the names. I would appreciate any help confirming what I believe is my great grandfather's baptismal record.
I think the name of the child is Pilar Baldes (I'm making the assumption that the name is mispelled or at least I'm hoping. My great great grandparents were Pedro Valdez and Matina Sandate. Would someone be kind enough to help me translate the record. Thank you.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20420-25423-54?cc=1860864…