I haven't research in Zacatecas for abt 3 weeks and found today I could not get into the online pilot program. Has the site changed address's? Is there a new way to get into it or is it gone??? I had no trouble accessing Jalisco.
any help appreciated
Linda in California for 2 weeks
Friday, Sep 26, 2008
Dear Researches--
For those who can read English, a nice biography can be had of Thomas A. Edison at http://www.thomasedison.com/biography.html.
His connection to San Diego, where I live, is that he put in the electrical lighting at the famous Hotel Del Coronado, or so I have heard.
I suspect that Thomas Edison was such a wonderful scientist that we would all like to claim him as one of our own countrymen. For myself, I would like to say he was Canadian but that would not be true. However, there is another whom I can claim. Henry Woodward, a medical student of Toronto, Ontario, Canada and his friend Matthew Evans invented the light bulb and not Edison. You can read more about it at http://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/Ontario/first_electric_light_bulb.htm
Best wishes to all.
Sincerely,
Patricia Burton
AKA Patricia Diane Godinez
San Diego, Ca.
--- On Thu, 9/25/08, gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net wrote:
> From: gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 5:50 PM
> HOLA OTRA VEZ EMILIE
>
> YO NO DIJO QUE ASI SEA NOMAS COMPARTO LO QUE OI DE NINO EN
> LA ESCUELA NO TIENE NADA DE MALO SUPONER. YO SE QUE LO MAS
> PROBLABLE ES QUE NO SEA CIERTO PERO UNO NUNCA SABE LA VIDA
> NOS DA SORPRESAS SIEMPRE HAY UNA POSIBILIDAD, NO CREES. AL
> FINAL DE CUENTAS ES UNA FANTASIA COMO CASI TODO EN LA VIDA.
>
> SALUDOS.
>
> LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ
>
> -------------- Original message from "Emilie
> Garcia" :
> --------------
>
>
> > Hay, Luis,
> > No puede ser. El nombre del inventor, su apellido, fue
> Edison Elliott, Thomas Alva fue el nombre cristiano
> baptizado, como tu eres Luis Miguel. El inventor no era
> Alba. Los descendientes de el inventor saben donde y cuando
> nacio y donde vivia despues. Tus monjitas son como los demas
> en mexico como en coahuila y zacatecas que creen que el
> apellido era Alba, pero estan equivocados como te conte
> antes. No era de ningun linea Alba o Alva. Thomas Edison
> estaba en Ohio
> > y Michigan desde 1847. De casado vivia en New Jersey y
> Florida.
> >
> > Emilie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison
> >
> >
> > HOLA LETY ES MUY PROBLABLE QUE SEA CIERTO YO FUI AL
> COLEGIO DE MONJITAS EN SAN MIGUEL Y UNA DE ELLAS ERA DE SAN
> JUAN Y ELLA ESTABA CONVENCIDA DE QUE TOMAS ERA DE SAN
> > JUAN DE LAS FAMILIAS DE ALBA. Y NO ME LO PLATICO UNA
> VEZ SINO MUCHAS.
> > NO VEO PORQUE NO Y LO QUE DICES DE EL PARECIDO CON TU
> PAPA LO CREO PORQUE
> > TAMBIEN ME RECUERDA MUCHO A MI ABUELO (POR PATE DE MI
> PAPA) EN TODOS LOS
> > ASPECTOS MI ABUELO TENIA LA MISMA FISINOMIA LA MISMA
> CARA POSIBLEMENTE TENIAN
> > ALGUNA RELACION SI ES QUE ES CIERTO QUE TOMAS ALBA ERA
> DE JALISCO.
> > SALUDOS
> > LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ.
> > -------------- Original message from leticia reynoso
> > >: --------------
> >
> >
> > > Perdon mi abuela decia que su abuela no su
> mama.> From:
> > siriuslr@hotmail.com> To:
> > research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 25
> > Sep 2008 18:11:26 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros
> Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison> > >
> > <> Edison saco el Alva... pues sus supuestos
> hermanos solo son Edison..y hasta
> > acta
> > > de nacimiento tiene.. pero si tu vez una foto de
> mi papa y una de Thomas
> > Alva
> > > Edison jurarias que tienen algo que ver...en
> fin..tal vez nunca lo sabremos
> > Lety
> > > Reynoso>
> _________________________________________________________________>
>
> > > Realiza búsquedas en Internet y llévate hasta
> ¡Un Auto! >
> > >
> > http://www.ganabuscando.com/Default.aspx> x>>
Alguien tiene en sus investigaciones a Jose Zeferino Alvarez que pudo nacer alrededor de 1740 y caso con Maria Crecencia de Sotomayor , tuvo a sus hijos en el Rancho El Escalon municipio de San Cristobal de la Barranca, Jalisco de el descienden mas del 90% de los Alvarez que radican en San Cristobal de la Barranca y los que han emigrado hacia Zapopan, Jalisco. Yo tengo la mayoria de sus hijos, nietos y bisnietos pero no se ha podido avanzar por falta de registros de San Cristobal.He revisado los documentos de bodas y he encontrado algunos Alvarez mulatos de Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas, algunos de Tepetongo y de la Villa de Jerez que se fueron a vivir a San Cristobal aunque por esas fechas de 1740 habia bastantes Alvarez en Colotlan,Jalisco si alguien tiene datos estare muy agradecido.
Gracias a todos.
Does anyone know what church records I would check for this area? I found a possible link to my Villalpandos that died in Leon but was a vecino de Comanxa.
Amalia Hernandez-Arias
I have found what may be a clue however I need help in interpreting handwritting on document found in Guanajuato, Mx, San Miguel de Allende, San Miguel Arcangel, 1790-1810, image 222 of 579 for Ma Vizta, 1798, 5 Abril, hija de Jose Alvarado and Ma Geromina Rodrigz, vezs de____. Any help is greatly appreciated as this may open another door for me. Thanks - Anita
Can someone tell me where I would look for records for La Taberna and La Huerta de Jesus. I was thinking to look in Zapotiltic for Rancho La Taberna and La Huerta for the latter one. Would this be correct or could someone guide me to the correct locality? Could it be one of the other nearby states I should be looking or is it still Jalisco? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Ani
Hola Foro,
Necesito la ayuda de algun miembro experimentado en este tema de la Genealogia, para comprobar que es la misma persona Antonio Hernandez casado con Ygnacia Garcia en 1829 en La Barca, Jalisco (FamilySearch.org, La Barca, San Juan Bosco, Matrimonios 1814-1836, imagen 376) y Josef Antonio Hernandez bautisado en La Barca, Jalisco (FamilySearch.org, La Barca, San Juan Bosco, Bautismos 1779-1801, imagen 578).
En el acta de Matrimonio, Antonio tiene 27 ano's, lo que hace que el hubiera nacido en 1802 aproximadamente, tambien dice que es "oriundo" de San Antonio y que los Padres son Santos Hernandez y Gertrudis Aguilera.
En el acta de Bautismo, Josef Antonio nacio' en el Rancho de Tejas en 1796, lo que lo hace de aproximadamente 33 ano's para 1829 (fecha del matrimonio), Los Papas son Santos Hernandez y Maria Gertrudis Cruz.
Mis Preguntas/Dudas son:
Que tan confiable era la edad de los "novios" escrita en las actas de matrimonio? se verificaban con el acta de bautismo, o solo se escribia lo que los "novios" afirmaban?
"Oriundo", no es necesariamente el lugar donde naciste, o si? que tal "vecino de...",esto quiere decir que radicas/vives en cierto lugar, verdad?
Puede ser Gertrudis Aguiliera y Maria Gertrudis Cruz, la misma persona?
Hay 3 muy posibles hermanos de Antonio, ellos son: Jose Victorino nacido en 1788 (FamilySerch.org, La Barca, San Juan Bosco, Bautismos 1779-1801, imagen 307), jose Marcial nacido en 1802 (FamilySearch.org, La Barca, San Juan Bosco, Bautismos 1796-1809, imagen 152) y Jose Martin, bautisado en La Barca, San Juan Bosco en Mayo 2 de 1810 (no tengo imagen).
Alguien sabe donde esta el Rancho de Tejas, en Jalisco? cual podria ser el nombre actual?
*** En Google encontre' un "Bajio de Tejas" en el municipio de Ayotlan (Ayo el Chico), podria ser este el Rancho de Tejas? ya que en algun tiempo, si no me equivoco, Ayotlan pertenecio al municipio de La Barca, Jalisco, no se si Juridicamente o bajo la misma Arquidioses.
Cualquier pista o ayuda sera muy apreciada,
Antemano, muchas Gracias,
Roberto Hdez
Hi fellow researchers,
For those of you interested in Aguascalientes researchers, the book Archivos parroquiales de Aguascalientes has been edited and the price has dropped to 35.00. The primary focus is the XVII century of Aguascalientes, church records, and appendixes that I compiled. Here's the link,
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/archivos-parroquiales-de-aguascal…
I have some baptisms from 1776 where there are some references to the race of the people.
One is Calidad Coyote. I know that a Coyote was a person who had one parent that was a mestizo and one that was Indian. Does the "calidad" mean, as my Spanish dictionary states, "quality, condition, character, rank, fashion, stipulation"?
And what would Indios de Calidad be? That they were "Indians of high rank"?
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
Hi,
I was hoping some could look at this record and give me your opinion of
a couple of things I don't understand:
http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/ranchos/PedroTorresDeath1158292v02p28(Fe…
1) What is the word right before this phrase: "De la Villa de
Aguascalientes"?
2) What do ALL the abbreviations at the top left mean?
3) What is the second surname of Maria Ynes de Flores y ???Liras??? I'm
in doubt that this is an "L" since the "L" in Legitimo looks so
different. Also I'm thinking that the last letter really might be an "r"
instead of an "s" since it looks similar to the other "r's" in the
document.
4) Does anyone doing research in Aguas have a Simon Torres married to an
Ynes de Flores y ???
thanks for your help,
joseph
====================
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http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)
No se si con ustedes pase lo mismo , pero no puedo abrir la pagina de family search
ALSO....
TRY SAN GABRIEL OR TUXCACUESCO
Before "migrating" from New Mexico from where did your family begin its journey?
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this is awesome what I started...well I have a family page if you all would like to see it...all my family my grandfather migrated from New Mexico, to Colorado, Utah and Idaho then us to Arizona. We are all realted...so cool!!
Amalia Hernandez Arias
We have been told for some time that the Pilot Site would be going away eventually.
During that time changes have been made to Record Search, the availability of records has dramatically increased, but new records have not been added to Pilot, and the functionality has been improved. There were things with the Pilot Search feature that I thought were better, although I have recently noticed that the Record Search search feature has changed also. I’m not sure how the system works with accented letters, for example. I have found I cannot put in words with accents, but the results may have accents, depending on how the data was entered.
The advanced search works OK, but improvements could be made. The “match term exactly” check box seems to be “sort of” workable; I still get results that don’t match, but these seem to be separated from the others (ie, further down on the list).
A feature I like is that I can copy text from Record Search results, but could not from Pilot.
I would like to think that everything that was available in Pilot has been transferred to Record Search.
The older IGI, which is still available, has some features that are nice, but once again, it has been rather limited in the available data, and some of the search features there are subject to rather arbitrary constraints. New data is not being added. “Limited” is perhaps an odd term; there are millions of records in the IGI, but there are billions at Record Search.
I had considered the three systems complementary, rather than mutually exclusive, and developed some processes for effective and hopefully, thorough search. As Record Search continues to improve, the features that were in Pilot will seem less useful.
I can see Record Search continuing to evolve. As many more records go online, the current structure for finding specific record sets is going to get unwieldy, so changes will need to be made.
I can also envision the search functionality getting to be more sophisticated. I would like to see the addition of a wildcard search.
Rather than complain, I would suggest we offer constructive comments. We should note that the developers must look at our suggestions in view of the bigger user group. A change that effects only a small set of users, while not addressing the larger issues is not a good use of resources. This also goes with what records are made available when. There are certain areas that I would really like to see, but they may be further down on the list, and will eventually get there. I was thrilled when Aguascalientes came on line, and was a little dismayed that Zacatecas was at the end of the alphabet. Needless to say, when it came on line, I was pleased. We need some patience.
I look back at the hours I’ve spent at the old microfilm readers (not to mention the cost), and recall marking the spools of film with little pieces of paper so I could take it to the scanner/printer people to get a print, that was sometimes good, but more often not. The digital images we have today are really pretty amazing. We’ve come a long ways since then, and will continue to improve.
I, for one, am truly grateful for the resources we have been given.
George Fulton
I recently report an error with the title of a Guanajuato digitized film, and received a very nice reply:
From: Support
To: gpf13
Subject: Mexico, Guanajuato, Catholic Church Records, 1576-1984: error in source listing
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:44 am
Dear George Fulton,
Thank you for contacting FamilySearch to report incorrect dates given for our
collection , Mexico, Guanajuato, Catholic Church Records, 1576-1984, San
Francisco del Rincón, San Francisco de Asis.
We have reported the error for correction.
We appreciate you for taking the time to supply feedback about your experience
using our Historical Records collections at FamilySearch.Org. It is due to the
diligence and caring of persons such as yourself that is helping to make
FamilySearch a premiere genealogical site.
We invite you to return often as new collections are being added regularly.
Sincerely,
FamilySearch
If you've already had this conversation, would someone kindly point me in its the direction on the website?
The former "Pilot Search" site has been a blessing untold to my research. My tree and information has grown by leaps and bounds since it came online a couple years back. And now they are shutting it down in favor of the new site whose database is no more malleable than an excel spreadsheet.
I don't know where or how I will be able to continue any meaningful research when the Pilot Search closes tomorrow. I keep trying to give the new, "improved" site a change, but consistently I find that the identical criteria entered into both sites will produce vastly different results. Always, the Pilot Search provides me with easily 1,000 more records to peruse than the new site, and it frequently will produce the answer I need, where as the new site has only once given me the record I needed. Things like the ability to peruse spouse names in records at one time (and again, more than 1,000 if I so desire) are going to be lost.
I've left this type of input and more in the suggestion box and on the comments section but alas, the many voices are ignored and tomorrow it comes to an end.
It seems to me that my research has been effectively killed when an improved site cannot provide what the pilot site could. So I'm wondering, what are all of you going to do in order to find the records you need?
Thanks,
Annette
Yes, that was my understanding, I.e,, "temporary". As with anything else "baby steps" come first before walking". It's in the natural way of development.
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Ive had some conversations with some brothers here from the Mormon church and they told me that the pilot site was from the onset just a working tool for bigger and better things yet to come . They also mentioned that they were not going to reinstate it .
Welester
> I also was much more productive with the pilot site. Is there anything we can do to keep it running.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Hola a todos.
Desde hace algunos meses he estado avanzando en encontrar mas ancestros
de mi familia he llegado al punto de no poder avanzar mas por lo cual
nuevamente solicito de su ayuda para que me den luz en lo siguiente: Mi
ancestro mas antiguo es Michaela Gomez quien vivio alrededor del año
1690 a 1750 en la villa de Santa Maria de los lagos, Jalisco y fue
casada con Juan de Dios Ortiz. de la misma villa. he encontrado dos
personas del mismo nombre viviendo aproximadamente en la misma fecha y
lugar, una es Michaela Gomez Aguirre y la otra es Michaela Gomez de la
Cruz pero no encuentro informacion de su matrimonio para validar que se
haya casado con Juan de Dios Ortiz, ¿ Podran ayudarme si tienen
informacion de esta persona? o si me informan a donde buscar se los
agradecere de corazon.
De antemano Gracias primos
Atte
Mario Gonzalez Gomez.
Mexico DF.
Hola a todos!!!!!
Antes que nada GRACIAS por aceptarme en su grupo, soy nueva en esto de la genealogía, mi familia es de los altos de Jalisco, hasta ahorita se que de San Juan de los Lagos, pero se que existe la posibilidad que otros municipios esten involucrados. Mi bisabuelo fué Francisco de Paul Gutiérrez Flores nació en 1893 su padre fue Filiberto Gutiérrez García y María Dolores Flores González. Me gustaría obtener información sobre los abuelos paternos de mi bisabuelo fueron Francisco Gutiérrez García y María Refugio García, de los cuales no tengo más datos.
De antemano muchas gracias
My Spanish is limited and I have found something curious. Mateo Alviso and his son Calixto Alviso had back to back dispensas done and I need help with the translation. Would someone be so kind to help me out? Mateo's dispensa for his marriage to Casimira Vasquez is San Miguel el Alto 1832-1855 image 197 page 178 and his son Calixto to Atanacia Gallardo (aka Martin) image 198 page 179 (the next page) Here is the link:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…
Thank you for any help!
I am researching my maternal 5th Great Parents Joseph Martin de Peña and Maria Rufina Ximenes. They were married 08 Nov 1761 in Nuestra Senora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, MX. I am seeking the names of their parents. (It appears that records for this time period have been omitted from the LDS digitized Mexico Records.)
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Hola compañeros, hace días leí que alguien quería saber quienes eran los padres de Sebastián de Luna y Josefa Lozano.
Yo también necesito saber quienes son sus ancestros por lo que me puse a leer en el libro de Luz Montejano Hilton y en la página 131, extracto 709 se encuentra una dispensa en tercer grado de consanguinidad de Luis de Luna, hijo de Sebastián de Luna y Josefa Lozano, con María de Haro hija de Francisco de Haro y Cecilia de Haro Flores. En dicha dispensa se menciona que Sebastián de Luna y Cecilia de Haro Flores son primos hermanos por lo que me puse a investigar en familysearch y e hice algunas conclusiones, ojalá alguien nos pueda ayudar.
A lo que pude concluir es que Sebastián de Luna puede ser hijo de Bartolomé de Luna y Lorenza Ortiz de Haro; y Cecilia de Haro Flores puede ser hija de Luis de Luna y Josefa de Haro y Esquivel. Yo creo que Bartolomé de Luna y Luis de Luna son hermanos; ¿Alguien de ustedes tiene algo sobre ellos?
L.C.P. Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco, México.
Tel.: 3781095311
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I looked and looked for something about the history of Villa de San Diego de Leon, in Guanajuato, where Juan Villalpando was born, and I finally found an article about it.
http://www.am.com.mx/Nota.aspx?ID=450861
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
Does anyone know what the term "Caste" means on a marriage document? The one I have is as follows...
"Jose Roberto Hernandez, Soldado Patrista del Resguardo de este Pueblo, de calidad Casta"
It's where they ususally state their race.
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