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tolerate ongoing discussions related to other topics whether they be of
politics, race or other concerns. Having said that sometimes there is an
absolute need to bring some of these topics into discussion. For example
if the government made decisions that directly affected how and where we
could find genealogical records I'd say it is on topic as long as
"opinion" doesn't creep into the discussion. . ."Just the facts,
please"! There are other examples, I'm sure. I would encourage everyone
in the group who believes that the discussion has crossed from "Just the
facts" to "opinion" to please please send me a private email
(joseph@nuestrosranchos.org). This is your group and I am from this day
forward making everyone accountable to monitor that the discussion stays
on topic and respectful.

El grupo nuestrosranchos.org esta dedicado al estudio de la genealogía
de los estados de Jalisco, de Zacatecas y de Aguascalientes. Este grupo
no tolerará las discusiones relacionadas con otros asuntos si estén de
política, de raza o de otras cosas. A veces hay una necesidad absoluta
de traer algunos de estos asuntos en la discusión. Por ejemplo si el
gobierno tomó las decisiones que afectaron directamente a cómo y a donde
podríamos encontrar los expedientes genealógicos dijere que ese asunto,
menos la opinión, es un buen asunto de discusión. Solamente los hechos,
por favor. Creo que hay otros ejemplos. Animaría cada uno en el grupo
que cree que la discusión ha cruzado de solamente de los hechos a la
opinión que me mandan un email privado (joseph@nuestrosranchos.org).
Éste es su grupo y de este día delantero estoy haciendo cada uno
responsable para supervisar que la discusión permanece en asunto y
respetuoso .

joseph

ps: these days I don't have a lot of time and I'll quickly do whatever I
have to bring an out of order discussion into order. If the thought
crosses your mind that "what you have to say" might be off topic then I
would suggest that "IT IS" and for you to take that discussion to
"PRIVATE EMAIL" with the individuals concerned. Now if you believe that
the individuals concerned are too many to easily number I can quickly
tutor you how to start a discussion group on Yahoo Groups where you can
discuss any and all topics.

p.d: actualmente en estos dias no tengo mucho tiempo y harare
rápidamente lo que tengo a traer a una discusión que es desordenada en
una discusión que sea ordenada. Si el pensamiento cruza su mente que
"qué usted tiene que decir" puede ser de asunto entonces yo sugeriría
que SEA y para que usted tome que la discusión al EMAIL PRIVADO con esos
individuos. Ahora si usted cree que los individuos referidos están a
muchos a numerar fácilmente puedo tutor rápidamente cómo comenzar a un
grupo de discusión en los grupos de Yahoo donde usted puede discutir
cualesquiera y todos los asuntos

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

The nuestrosranchos.org group is dedicated to the study of genealogy of
the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes. This group will not
tolerate ongoing discussions related to other topics whether they be of
politics, race or other concerns. Having said that sometimes there is an
absolute need to bring some of these topics into discussion. For example
if the government made decisions that directly affected how and where we
could find genealogical records I'd say it is on topic as long as
"opinion" doesn't creep into the discussion. . ."Just the facts,
please"! There are other examples, I'm sure. I would encourage everyone
in the group who believes that the discussion has crossed from "Just the
facts" to "opinion" to please please send me a private email
(joseph@nuestrosranchos.org). This is your group and I am from this day
forward making everyone accountable to monitor that the discussion stays
on topic and respectful.

El grupo nuestrosranchos.org esta dedicado al estudio de la genealogía
de los estados de Jalisco, de Zacatecas y de Aguascalientes. Este grupo
no tolerará las discusiones relacionadas con otros asuntos si estén de
política, de raza o de otras cosas. A veces hay una necesidad absoluta
de traer algunos de estos asuntos en la discusión. Por ejemplo si el
gobierno tomó las decisiones que afectaron directamente a cómo y a donde
podríamos encontrar los expedientes genealógicos dijere que ese asunto,
menos la opinión, es un buen asunto de discusión. Solamente los hechos,
por favor. Creo que hay otros ejemplos. Animaría cada uno en el grupo
que cree que la discusión ha cruzado de solamente de los hechos a la
opinión que me mandan un email privado (joseph@nuestrosranchos.org).
Éste es su grupo y de este día delantero estoy haciendo cada uno
responsable para supervisar que la discusión permanece en asunto y
respetuoso .

joseph

ps: these days I don't have a lot of time and I'll quickly do whatever I
have to bring an out of order discussion into order. If the thought
crosses your mind that "what you have to say" might be off topic then I
would suggest that "IT IS" and for you to take that discussion to
"PRIVATE EMAIL" with the individuals concerned. Now if you believe that
the individuals concerned are too many to easily number I can quickly
tutor you how to start a discussion group on Yahoo Groups where you can
discuss any and all topics.

p.d: actualmente en estos dias no tengo mucho tiempo y harare
rápidamente lo que tengo a traer a una discusión que es desordenada en
una discusión que sea ordenada. Si el pensamiento cruza su mente que
"qué usted tiene que decir" puede ser de asunto entonces yo sugeriría
que SEA y para que usted tome que la discusión al EMAIL PRIVADO con esos
individuos. Ahora si usted cree que los individuos referidos están a
muchos a numerar fácilmente puedo tutor rápidamente cómo comenzar a un
grupo de discusión en los grupos de Yahoo donde usted puede discutir
cualesquiera y todos los asuntos

======================

Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

I FOUND THIS SITE ON THE INTERNET, I DON'T KNOW IT'S VALIDITY BUT MAYBE IT WILL HELP: ALCALDE DIEGO VELASCO DE TREVINO FUNDADOR DE LA NUEVA GALICIA.

IF I WANT TO UPDATE MY AHNENTAFEL, MAY I ALSO ATTACH AN ALPHABETICAL LISTING OF ALL NAMES I HAVE RESEARCHED WITH DATES AND PARENTS AND SPOUSES, ETC. SO THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE TO OTHER MEMBERS?

Lester and Paul,

Thank you both for the information on the town of Corral de Almaguer. I had
not heard of it before. At this point my research on my Almaguer line has
not progressed very far. And I know nothing about the origin of the name.
I need to do a lot more research. Thanks to both of you for the ideas.

Beverly

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Message: 12

Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:11:21 +0000

From: Lester Alvarado

To: Bill Figueroa

Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Almaguer

You are absolutely right ! The town that you mention CORAL DE ALMAGUER is
where all the Almaguers come from . There is a fellow in Villa de Santiago ,
Nuevo Leon that visited the town and spoke to the mayor . He was informed
that the town holds on to the name but there are no Almaguers there for a
very long time .

There are several explanations on the name , some say that it has arab
origens Al-magher . Its possible being that almost all the surnames with the
prefix AL do have middle east orignes but not all of them .

Take care,

Welester

Message: 3

Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 00:25:41 +0000

From: paul.gomez@verizon.net

To: research@nuestrosranchos.org

Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Lester Alvarado

Beverly,

I found your e-mail of great interest. My wife is a Romero. I have traced
her family line's progenitor, Bartholomew Romero, to a small town Corral de
Almaguer, 60 miles east of Toledo, Spain, . Is there a connection between
this town and your great grandmother? As we know, oftentimes an individual"s
surname name was identified with his "home town".

I look forward to your response.

Paul Gomez

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

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The indexing of Jaime Holcombe's transcriptions of the Zacatecas Archive's 17th Century Notary records, mostly those of Felipe de Espinosa, is now complete and online at http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/notary.

El indice de las transcripciones de Jaime Holcombe de los expedientes de notarías del siglo XVII del Archivo del Estado de Zacatecas se ha completado. La mayoría de expedientes son de Felipe de Espinosa y se puede revisar en:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/notary.

Many thanks to our volunteers, muchísimas gracias a los voluntarios:
Esperanza Villarreal Luna, Gus Meza, Jose Luis Felix Castañeda, Salvador Márquez, Juan Francisco Sanchez Alvarez, Angelina Markle, Daniel Méndez Camino, Mickey Garcia and Christopher Barrios de Leon

and to Guillermo Tovar de Teresa who furnished the materials that were indexed and loaded to the database.

y a Guillermo Tovar de Teresa quien otorgo los materiales que se montaron a la base de datos y de los cuales se creo el índice.

Hola Welester!
My name is Amelia Macias. I just joint the NR a few days ago and have very little data to go on in the search for my father's side of the family. My half mom's side is done thanks to my sister (LDS). I'm looking for the Macias and Alavarado families of Jalpa and Aguascalientes. Here is my connection to the Alvarado-Tostado surnames.

My father, Jose Jesus Tostado Macias' parents were Jose Macias and Calletana Alvarado Tostado. I'm having trouble obtaining info from my father, medical reasons. My grandfather Jose was born 1867 in Jalpa and died in 1951 in Jalpa. My grandmother Calletana died in 1960 in Jalpa. My father's other siblings were as follows:

Antonio Macias, married (Socorro) born 1917 died 21 Nov 2005 in Aguascalientes which still lives there.
Angel Macias, no info
Socorro Macias, died in Jalpa as at nine months
Socorro Macias, died in Jallpa at age 32
Jose Jesus Macias, b. 1923 in Jalpa
Jovita Macias, b. abt 1930 died in Jalpa as a baby
Jovita Macias born 10 April 1931

Do you have any relatives from Jalpa? Do any of these names sound familiar to you?

Thanks! Amelia Macias

I have recently had the opportunity to look at a copy of Genealogia de Nochistlan. In the chapter for Martin Navarro and Petronila de Moctezuma (Capitulo 58) is an extract of the first document that I have become aware of that actually names this couple. For those that are interested in this family, and do not have access to a copy of this book, the extract is as follows.

This is the matrimonial investigation for Bartolome Rodrigues Baxo, whose first and second wives descend from Martin and Petronila, thus he was requesting a dispensation for 4th degree afinity (they are great-great-granddaughters of Martin and Petronila:

27 September 1703, Nochistlán

Bartolomé Ros Baxo vesino de la Billa de aquacalientes en la sieneguila, Viudo de teresa ponse para el matrimonio que pretnedo contraer con doña Thomasa Rosa de Ullóa (de beinte y tres años de edad), besina de esta Jurisdision, yja lexítima del Capptán po de Ullóa y márquez y de da Josepa de sepúlveda y Roxas (hija de Juan de Sepúlveda y Leonor de Elizalde, Capítulo 63) que habiendo rsultado un impedimento de parentesco de quarto grado de afinidad entre mí y la dha Tomasa Rosa de Ullóa.

Se presentaron como testigos: el Cappn Casimiro Lópes de lara, español vesino destte dho pueblo quién declaró que conoce a la dha da Thomasa Roza de Ullóa abra tiempo de veinte y dos años o beinte i tres y que a su parecer tendrá treinta y tres años y que a lo menos sube se los treinta porque en aquel tiempo tendría como ocho o dies años y que el dho pedro de Ullóa pasa de sesenta años Y la dha Da Josepha de sepúlveda Roxas tendrá Su mysma edad porque desdel referido tiemp de beinte y dos a beinte y tres años que a los conoze los has conocido siempre biejos y que por esta causa se fallasen como es natural quedara la sudha Da ttomasa Rosa de Ullóa desamparada y Apeligrada muchas miserias … declaró ser de edad de quaranta Y un años y lo firmó.

Se presentó también Joséph Rodriguez, español Vesino del pueblo mesticacán, quién dijo que conoce a Thomasa de la Rosa de Ullóa libre de matrimonio y que desde que nació a tenido comunicación y trato con sus padres y dijo que es de edad de cinquenta añoz, No firmó por no saver.

Así mismo, se presentaron Diego de benavides, español vesino del puo de mesticacán, quién declaró que no save que sean parientes los contrayientes y dijo ser de edad de quaranta años (firmó) y declaró lo mismo Joséph Carillo, español Y vesino de mesticacán, quién dijo ser de edad de treinta años y lo firmó.

Otro testigo fue Diego de Contreras Vesino Deste dho pueblo, quién dijo que son estos presentos parientes en quarto grado de afinidad por cópula licita por ser la dha Da ttomasa terzera nietta de Martin nabarro de quién el dho pedro de Ullóa su padre es bisnieto Y así mismo aver sido la dha tteresa ponse terzera nietta Y su padre nicolás ponze bysnietto del mismo Martin Nabarro que todo estto Lo save poraver oydi en ello ablar a barias personas fidedignas Y en particular a lorenzo Ruis desparza ombre de mucha edad Y mui beridico Veziode la Villa de aguascalientes y nietto que fue del dho martin Navarro …Y rratificó. Dijo ser de edad de más de ochentta años y lo firmó.

También presentó Matheo Gons de Ruvalacava, español vesino delste dho pueblo quién declaró que los prestensos son parientes en quarto grado de afinidad por cópula lizita por ser la dha ser la dha ttereza ponze, Yja de Nicolás ponze, nieta de Da juana de siordia, bisnieta de Maria Gabai Y tereza, nieta de Martín nabarro y de Da patronila de montesuma … y que así mismo save que son basttantemente pobres porque todos su caudal se Reduze a Una Mula esclava Con tres CRíos Y a unas pocas tierras asentuadas sobre las que les al presente se muebe pleito al pareser justificado Nicolás de Sepúlveda, hermano de la dha josepha de sepúlveda y que por todas razones junto con la de que los yjos lixítimos erederos de los dhos Pedro de Ullóa y de josepha de sepúlveda son seis de los quales quatro no an tocado todabía ni persivido erensia quere partido entre elloz … y dijo ser de edad de setenta y ocho años y lo firmó.

Por último apareció Bartolomé de la dueña de sesenta años de edad quién firmó.

I looked in the 1703 volume of matrimonial investigations of Nochistlan, but did not find this document. It may be in the diocesan records of Guadalajara.

George Fulton

Does anyone happen to have the record for the 11 Feb 1733 marriage of
Bernardo Contreras and Feliciana Alonzo de los Ynojos in Teocaltiche,
Jalisco?

Can someone tell me where I might find baptismal records for individuals born in Jalos prior to 1698? I am trying to find a record for Melchor Manuel Peres de Paredes, son of Agustin Perez de Paredes and Catalina Gonzalez de Hermosillo. Thanks.

Xptóval, Xptóbal. I know it is the abbreviation for Cristóbal, Cristóval, Christóval, Christóbal ... Chrisptóval?? or english Christopher. I understand the X was for the Cruz or Cross (greek Cristos) - but does anyone know how the "p" got in there? The metamorphosis of Spanish names to me is interesting. Like Bethlehem changing to Bethelehem, Bethelem, and other variations and finally ending up Belén. Or José being spelled Joseph in the 1700's - was it nevertheless still pronounced José, the ph being silent? Or Yosep from Hebrew influence? I also understand that certain imported words like Bethlehem are linguistically unacceptable combinations of sounds to any Spanish-speaking person - so it _has_ to change, just as Tlaltenango is unacceptable to an English-speaking person - we _never_ start a word with TL ... Even my own name Stuart is unacceptable to many persons from India or Latin America because they insist on saying Estuart. I guess my interest in this is because when I look at old records I am obsessed with knowing how to pronounce the names as they were originally spoken - and I can't figure out how to pronounce them.

I think this question may be for Arturo or Joseph. Is there a way to search the surnames other members are investigating, if they are not included in the Gedcom resource? (Other than looking up members with that surname?) For example, how can I check which other members are also investigating a particular surname or, better yet, which members are searching for a particular surname in a particular state? This may be obvious, I just haven't learned how to do it. Thanks

Hola a todos los compañeros me gustaria saber algo de esta pareja del lado de Martin ramirez ya que del lado de Francisca de Bibanco tengo hasta los abuelos paternos y maternos es una pareja de ayotlan Jalisco casados en 1723, un saludo y mil gracias de antemano

I had been away from this forum for some time. I took a wrong turn somewhere in my research and felt very dissapointed. I was following the wrong ancestors. I learned that I cannot make assumptions based on information found online and that I needed to see copies of the actual documents.

My great grandmother was Prudencia Garcia Contreras (1895-1984)daughter of Josefa Contreras y Zenon Garcia. My grandfather was Rodolfo Gama (a. 1905), son of J. Cruz Gama and Rosario Cruz.

If anyone is doing research in Santa Cruz municipio de Tamazula de Gordiano, Jalisco, let me know. I followed the wrong Gama family and have that information.

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Me aleje de este foro por algun tiempo. Me equivoque en alguna parte de mi investigacion y sufri una gran desilusion. Me puse a seguir a una linea equivocada. Me sirvio para aprender a no dar por hecho la informacion del internet sino hasta tener copias de los documentos.

Mi bisabuela era Prudencia Garcia Contreras (a. 1895-1984) hija de Josefa Contreras y Zenon Garcia. Mi abuelo fue Rodolfo Gama (a. 1905), hijo de J. Cruz Gama y de Rosario Cruz.

Si alguien esta haciendo investigaciones de Santa Cruz municipio de Tamazula de Gordiano, Jalisco, dejenme saber. Segui la line de familia equivocada y tengo esa informacion

Rosie Cordova

how do you send a gedcom in? i use a PAF program is that an acceptable format? i also have many names i am researching what is the best way to include those?

I thought i remembered someone offering an index of entries of the Aguascalientes Marrages in an MS Word document form . Does anyone else know where this link or Database is posted. ?

I have just read the entry in the book "Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara" (p. 336, #1769) for the dispensation of Sebastian de Chavez and Maria Gertrudis Macias, for 3rd degree consanguinity. The record is dated 27 Sep 1754, Mezquital del Oro, Zacatecas. The dispensation was apparently granted 25 Feb 1746.

If I have read the entry correctly, Sebastian de Chavez is the grandson of Joseph de Valderrama (his wife is not named). Maria Gertrudis Macias is the granddaughter of Nicolas Macias Valadez. Nicolas Macias Valadez and Joseph de Valderrama are brothers, but Nicolas is from the first wife and Joseph from the second wife of their unnamed father.

Nicolas's wife is named; she is Juana de Anda. Are they the Nicolas Macias and Juana de Anda who were married in Santa Maria de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, on 16 Sep 1680?

I can find baptisms for several children for Nicolas and Juana, but not the son (Juan) who is the father of Maria Gertrudis.

I can find little information on the Valderramas: I have the marriage date for Sebastian's mother Tomasa de Valderrama and Phelipe de Chavez (casados: 7 Nov 1708 and velados: 8 Apr 1709), but nothing else.

Who is the father of Nicolas and Joseph, and who are their mothers?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

George Fulton

i'm sorry, helyn, but it is my married name and no research has been done.

I'm still trying to find my ggrandfather from Ojuelos de Jalisco and have had no luck at all...it's been almost a year. Can anyone help.

Searching for

Jose Refugio Cortez married to Alejandra Hernandez. Refugio and Alejandra had the following children

Antonio Cortez Hernandez 1909
Hilario Cortez Hernandez
Martina Cortez Hernandez

I had stop searching but decided to go back at it.... I was just getting disappointed that I was not getting anywhere. I also notice that LDS has not posted anything from Ojuelos nor any new updated from Guanajuato which is my mom side.

If anyone can help i would really appreciate it.

Thanks

 
 
 
1.     Justo Sanchez-1 was born in Mexico.
Perfecta Gonzalez was born in Mexico. Justo Sanchez and Perfecta Gonzalez married. They had the following children:
2.             i. Simon Sanchez was born in Mexico. He married Maria Leonarda Becerra on May 11, 1825 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
Generation 2
2.     Simon Sanchez-2 (Justo-1) was born in Mexico.
Notes for Simon Sanchez: General Notes: Also listed as Simon Sanches.
Maria Leonarda Becerra daughter of Nicolas Becerra and Maria Apolonia Collazo was born in Mexico.
Notes for Maria Leonarda Becerra: General Notes: Also listed as Leonor Becerra, Maria Lenor Becerra, Maria Leonor Becerra and Leonarda Becerra.
Simon Sanchez and Maria Leonarda Becerra were married on May 11, 1825 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. They had the following children:
i.      Jose Nabor Sanchez was born in 1825 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on July 18, 1825 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
Notes for Jose Nabor Sanchez: General Notes: Also listed as Jose Nabor Sanchez Becerra.
3.             ii. Tranquilina Sanchez was born in 1827 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. She married Jose Maria Vasquez on May 27, 1862 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
iii.    Jose Antonio Alejandro Sanchez was born in 1829 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on May 02, 1829 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
                Maria Anacleta Sanchez was born in 1831 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on April 23, 1831 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
                Ma. Cleta Sanchez was born in 1833 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on July 20, 1833 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
 
vi. Esteban Sanchez was born in 1835 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on August 09, 1835 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
vii. Canuto Sanchez was born in 1838 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on January 28, 1838 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
viii. Jose Arcadio Sanchez was born in 1841 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on January 20, 1841 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
ix. Quirino Sanchez was born in 1843 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on June 11, 1843 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
4. x. Arcadio Sanchez was born in 1845. He married Petra Martinez on January 27, 1875 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
 xi. Epifanio Sanchez was born in 1847 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on April 11, 1847 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
5. xii. Esteban Sanchez was born in 1855 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He married Mauricia Martinez on November 03, 1875 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
 

One of my Durango lines is apparently from Ciudad Zacatecas: Miguel de Talavera, origen of Zacatecas City, son of Miguel de Talavera and Maria Angon, married Nicolasa Rita del Prado, daughter of Miguel Prado and Maria Josepha Paes in San Juan del Rio, Durango, on 3 Oct. 1749. I've looked online and so far cannot locate any Talaveras in that period in Zacatecas. Can anyone assist?

Alicia de San Jose, Ca.

Since you are doing research in Zac. Have you run into the last name Barron in the 1700's?. I am looking for a Jose Monico Barron who was born there about 1761. Also looking for a Justa Rufina Candelaria Paredes born abt 1762-63. Both apparently born in San Juan de Ahorcados, Zac.

I would appreciate a reply.

Elvira in ELP

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There are so many knowledgeable people on this site, I would like to know the best way to validate that the children who were baptized in San Juan are really the siblings of those baptized in San Diego de Alejandría.

Through IGI records, I found the following children of Juan Antonio De Anda, Gertrudis Padilla:

Jose Claro Anda Padilla
residence:Jalisco, Mexico
baptism/christening date:18 Aug 1822
baptism/christening place:
SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO

Jose Todosio Anda Padilla
residence:Jalisco, Mexico
baptism/christening date:06 Jun 1824
baptism/christening place:
SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO

José Luis De Jesus De Anda
birth:Mentidero residence: San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco, Mexico
baptism/christening date:27 Aug 1826
baptism/christening place:
La Inmaculada Concepción, San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco, Mexico

Nicolas De Guadalupe De Anda
birth: Mentidero
residence:San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco, Mexico
baptism/christening date:16 Dec 1828
baptism/christening place:
La Inmaculada Concepción, San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco, Mexico

Ma. De La Crus Anda Padilla
residence:Jalisco, Mexico
baptism/christening date:11 May 1831
baptism/christening place:
SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO

What are the chances of two Juan Antonio De Anda being married to two Gertrudis Padilla? I know the San Juande los Lagos and San Diego de Alejandría are very close to each other but why would a family not go to the same church for all of their children?

Hola,
Alguien sabe o me podría ayudar a encontrar el escudo de armas (si es que existe) de la familia Castelazo?? Por favor

Juan Bautista Castelazo Diaz se caso en Guanajuato el 2 de junio de 1869 con Maria Asunción Alaman (Nieta de Jose Mariano Sardaneta II Marques de Rayas), tuvieron varios hijos entre ellos Juan Bautista Castelazo Alamán que fué Gobernador de Guanajuato y Maria Castelazo Alaman mi bisabuela.

La leyenda familiar cuenta que el padre de Juan Bautista Castelazo, José Rodrigo Castelazo fue nombrado visconde de Regla pero nunca uso su titulo.

Muchas Gracias por su ayuda

Hi,
Can anybody help me to find the arms shield of the Castelazo family??? please

Juan Bautista Castelazo Diaz married in Guanajuato on june 2nd, 1869 with Maria Asunción Alamán (granddaughter of Jose Mariano Sardaneta II Marques de Rayas), they had several children, among them Juan Bautista Castelazo Alamán who was Governor of Guanajuato y Maria Castelazo Alaman my great grandmother.

The family history tells that the father of Juan Bautista Castelazo Diaz. Jose Rodrigo Castelazo Piña was named Viscount of Regla but he never used that title.

Thank you for your help.

Patricia Haro

I am looking for information on Leandro Esparza, in 1860 he worked as mayordomo on the Hacienda El Carro, which is now the town of Villa Gonzalez Ortega, Zacatecas. He is the father of Francisco Esparza, Francisco's mother was Maria Benita Esparza. I cannot find a record of their marriage. Benita seems to be from Aguascalientes. A relative in Zacatecas has Leandro's bible and it is in the native language of Nahautl! This relative also has a ledger from the Hacienda El Carro which has a page on the wages paid to Leandro in the year 1860. If any of this sounds familiar please let me known. Thank you.