I did move my album to "Member´s and Meetings" and added a new one containing images of decendants with surname Martín Del Campo and Barba from Los Altos De Jalisco, take a look. They are my sister ex-husband´s relatives.
Por favor termine sus mensajes al grupo con su nombre:
I've seen many messages come through lately that don't have the name of
the person at the end of the message. With so many messages and members
I think it would be best if you end your message with your name.
If you don't mind end your messages with your name please.
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>
> It was a pleasure speaking with you. As I mentioned, I don't have other
> information on Diego Flores de la Torre except that he married Teresa Gonzalez
> de Hermosillo who was born about 1632. Their daughter Juan Flores de la Torre
> was born about 1656 in Juchipila, Zacatecas and she married Tomas Martin del
> Campo who was born about 1652 in San Juan de Los Lagos, Jalisco. Their children
> were: Cecilia (b:1694 in San Juan de Los Lagos, d: 03 mar 1778) Antonia (b: abt
> 1684); Clara (b:1690), Maria Magdalena (b:1693), Maria (b:1683), Esteban
> (b:1678) Josefa born in 1692. I hope this information is helpful
!POR FIN! Someone I'm related to!
Hola Ronnie.
I didn't have time to stick more names that I had found, but now I will.
We are related threw Cristobal but also his grandparents, Juan Gutirrez de Mendoza and Ana Camacho. Cristobal's father, Salvador Gutierres de Mendoza 1660. The information I found out about his family was, which you probably already have or you can also correct me if I'm mistaken, the parents of Juan were Francisco Gutierres de Mendoza Rubio 1594 y Francisca Hurtado 1599. The parents of Francisco were Francisco Gutierres de Mendoza Rubio y Ana Gonzalez Florida. Francisca's father was Rodrigo Olivares.
Ana Camacho's parents were Silvestre Camacho 1585 y Teresa Gonzalez de Hermosillo 1589.
Sophia> From: chilerey@msn.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:37:31 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitlan, Tep> > > Hola Sophia ,how are you ? I am related to to Cristobal Gutierrez de Mendoza through his GrandParents (my ancestors) Juan Gutirrez de Mendoza and Ana Camacho. Manuel Munoz(de Nava) and Maria de San Juan (Martin )del Campo als my ancestors. There are probably more connections.> It seems that everybody from Los Altos area are related at least by 1 or 2 ancestors.> Ronnie Reynoso every bodies cousin from Los Altos> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: sceleste_m@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:32:51 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitlan, Tepatitlan, san Miguel el Alto and Lago de Moreno> > >
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Hola compañeros, no sé si ya se haya hecho, pero yo propongo que se haga una
reunión de Nuestros Ranchos aquí en Los Altos. Tambien propongo que el lugar
sea aquí en Valle de Guadalupe o lugar cercano, ya que es el centro de la
región. Que dicen? A cuantos de ustedes les interesa y tienen oportunidad de
asistir? La fecha esta para que se escoja.
Saludos,
Ricardo Rodriguez
Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco
I need some folks to look over this and and help out with the English of
this message. After I get that part resolved I'll be looking to get help
from those in the group that have offered to help with Spanish translations:
Thoughtful, Informative and Serious Messages
Genealogy is about the Life Events of our Ancestors. So when you send in
an email to the group please ask specific questions and give specific
information about the Life Events of your Ancestors so we might be able
to help you.
Note: DO NOT send in messages, examples given below, which can typically
be found on Rootsweb:
"Hi, I'm researching Jimenez, Sanchez and Gomez. Any help is
appreciated. Thanks in advance."
Or
"My Abuelito's name was Estevan Perez. Does this name ring a bell?
Please help."
These above messages give very very little information and should never,
ever ever be the kind of messages posted to a SERIOUS genealogical
research group.
Rather you should carefully consider the life events of your ancestors
and draw an outline of the information you have. Write down the
information you've assembled from talking to other relatives and then
from that information intelligently approximate some of the other life
events.
For example:
If your grandfather was born in 1876 and your father as the first born
was born in 1903 in Colotlan, Jalisco. They you could give an educated
guess that your grandparents might have been married sometime around
1902 or so and you can also guess that they might have been married in
the Colotlan area. If he was the 4th born then you can guess that they
might have had children every other year or so and that your
grandparents were married about 1894 or so.
So go through and assemble the facts and approximate the other life
events: births, marriages, deaths and by doing so your messages might be
transformed to these possible messages:
"Hi, I'm researching Jimenez, Sanchez and Gomez. These surnames come
from a rancho close to Santa Maria de Los Angeles, Jalisco called Las
Animas. Specifically I'm mainly interested in my Grandparents Gilberto
Jimenez born in about 1899 and Maria de la Luz Sanchez who was born a
few years before since family history would joke that Grandmother was a
little bit older than my Grandfather. Since my mother was 2nd born in
1924 I'm approximating that my grandparents were married about 1920-1921
and in the birth place of my mother: Santa Maria de Los Angeles."
Since my mother was raised in Los Angeles, CA I'm speculating that my
Grandparents might have came to this country in the between 1926-1929
and possibly crossing in Juarez/El Paso since there are stories about
them living there for a short time in the 1920's
Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance."
So please don't send in a message that is so general that it is nearly
impossible for anyone to help. Rather give lots of details and strive
toward the goal of being a serious researcher and getting help from
other serious researchers.
If you need help with determining if your messages are appropriate then
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alguien sabe si de las familias troncales de los Altos. alguna fue para Michoacán,,,,,o si tiene alguna relación los González de los Altos con los de Michoacán,,,saludos Lupita> From: research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Research Digest, Vol 29, Issue 17> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:36:11 -0700> > Send Research mailing list submissions to> research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://lists.nuestrosranchos.org/listinfo.cgi/research-nuestrosranchos…; > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> > You can reach the person managing the list at> research-owner@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Research digest..."> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> DAILY DIGEST> ****************************************> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. RE: Genealog?a de la expansi?n de las familias troncales> que poblaron las orillas (Ronald Reynoso)> 2. Re: La leyenda (sophia)> 3. RE: RE: RE: RE: New names in my Mu?oz line:San Juan> de los Lagos, Ayotlan, (sophia)> 4. RE: RE: Genealog?a de la expansi?n de las familias> troncales que poblaron las o (vicente castro sifuentes)> 5. Re: New names in my (egomezreyes)> 6. Re: New names in my (rubenhernandez57@comcast.net)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:04:16 -0700> From: Ronald Reynoso > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] RE: Genealog?a de la expansi?n de las> familias troncales que poblaron las orillas> To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Hola Vale ,como esta? ojala que bien. Mi antepasado era Carlos Lomellini y era de genoa,Italia como era moro ? > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: castrosivicente@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:41:17 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Genealog?a de la expansi?n de las familias troncales que poblaron las orillas orientales y Norte de Los Altos. Segunda mitad del> > > Genealog?a de la expansi?n de las familias troncales que poblaron las orillas orientales y Norte de Los Altos. Segunda mitad del siglo XVI.> > Se desprend?an desde Guadalajara hacia Teocaltiche., de ah? hacia Jalostotitlan, Lagos, San Miguel el Alto, San Juan de los Lagos, Mirandilla, Valle de Guadalupe, Tepatitl?n y Guadalajara de nuevo.> > De estas mismas ramas, hubo desplazamientos hacia Le?n (familia Ulloa y Parada Aguilar), Silao, Celaya e Irapuato (familia Mart?n), Gto.> De Jalostotitl?n, sali? la familia Garza para fundar la ciudad de Monterrey, NL.> (Ordenanzas de colonizaci?n de 1573).> > > TRONCOS FAMILIARES PRINCIPALES> > 1. Lomel?, Gallo, Gonz?lez (provenientes de Yahualica).> 2. Padilla, Reynoso.> 3. Issasi, Serrano, Sanrom?n, Ortiz de Parada, Hermosillo.> 4. P?rez, Franco, Padilla, Jim?nez, Reynoso, Gonz?lez> 5. Barba, Gonz?lez.> > Fuente: Sociedad y conflicto en los Altos de Jalisco. P?g. 87, citado por Gtz, Gtz J.A. 1989. Colecci?n Regiones. CONACULTA.> > Escribo esto, porque una persona de nombre Steven, asegura equivocadamente que los apellidos Lomel?n, Isassi, Lavezares y Sigala, provienen de italianos que se asentaron en Los Altos, lo cual es inexacto.> Lomel?n es de origen moro, asentado en Granada y C?rdoba al Sur de Espa?a. Ya en 1624 un portador de este apellido era Don Pedro Lomel?n.> Isassi es de origen totalmente vasco, siendo uno de sus representantes don Francisco Isassi de Olavarr?a.> Lavezares, proviene de la provincia de Vizcaya, donde destaca el militar Guido de Lavezares> Sigala proviene de Palma de Mallorca y su escudo consta de un> ?guila de plata con las patas y garras puestas hacia arriba en situaci?n de ataque.> > Saludos, Vicente de San Miguel.> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> _________________________________________________________________> Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back!> http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=intro…; > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:30:03 -0400> From: sophia > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] La leyenda> To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Gracias Juan!> I will try and hopefully I'm lucky.> > Sophia> > > > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:14:28 -0700> From: 1gnzlz@verizon.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] La leyenda> > Sophia:> > Since you lived in Spain, let me give you some information about a book: > "Hermosilla, Su Historia y sus Gentes" by Dionisio Cueva.> > You might be able to get it if you still have connections in either, > Hermosilla or Madrid. I got it through a friend who lives in Madrid and he > was kind enough to go to Hermosilla to take some pictures and try to do a > little research for me. He sent me a picture of the house where the Gonzalez > used to live. The descendents are no longer in Hermosilla, they moved to > Burgos.> In one of the pictures that he took there was a poster with the announcement > of a book on the history of Hermosilla. I went to the web and found the > Hermosilla web page where I posted a message asking for information on how > to locate Presbitero Dionisio Cueva, the author. It wasn't long before I > had > a phone number in Madrid, I asked my friend to call it and he was able > to get in touch with the author. It took a few weeks to get the book > because they were being kept in Hermosilla and I would have to wait until > Dionisio Cuevas went back to get the book. The book is fairly new, it was > published in 2006.> > If you do get, it you'll be fascinated by it, the book includes census taken > in 1508, 1512, 1518,,1524, and 1530. The census are very short since very > few people lived there at that time.> > You might want to try: WWW.escolopios.es they are the publishers and they > can probably help you to get a hold of Padre Dionisio Cueva or Saturio > Laredo, author and co-author of the book, both of them are from Hermosilla.> > Good luck!> > John Gonzalez> > _________________________________________________________________> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Download today it's FREE!> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/> > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:03:48 -0500> From: vicente castro sifuentes > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] RE: RE: Genealog?a de la expansi?n de> las familias troncales que poblaron las o> To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Qualcuno ha detto., Lomel?n (cognome di Steven) arribato di Genova a Madrid.> Ma, Lomellini e quallcosa diverso di Lomel?n. E vero, Lomellini (cognome dil suo nonno) si posta a Carmagnola, viccino a Torino reggione di Piamonte.> > Alguien ha dicho Lomel?n (apellido de Steven)., lleg? de G?nova a Madrid.> Pero Lomellini es algo distinto a Lomel?n. Es cierto, Lomellini se ubica en la ciudad de Carmagnola cerca de Tur?n Norte de Italia, donde hasta hay un palacio de una familia de ese apellido. A menudo los inmigrantes o las autoridades del pa?s de destino, escrib?an mal algunos datos, por ignorancia o premura del tiempo.> La reina Isabel tuvo un confesor de apellido Lomellini, que tambi?n se cita en la genealog?a de algunos zacatecanos. Entre 1532 y 1560 hab?a en Per? alrededor de 50 italianos, provenientes de Liguria.> Saludos. Viaje a la tierra de sus antepasados si no la conoce a?n. No se va arrepentir. Yo viv? un tiempo en Monteccattini, entre Florencia y Pisa. Hay mucho que ver. Vicente de San Miguel.> > > From: chilerey@msn.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:04:16 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] RE: Genealog?a de la expansi?n de las familias troncales que poblaron las orillas> > > Hola Vale ,como esta? ojala que bien. Mi antepasado era Carlos Lomellini y era de genoa,Italia como era moro ? > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: castrosivicente@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:41:17 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Genealog?a de la expansi?n de las familias troncales que poblaron las orillas orientales y Norte de Los Altos. Segunda mitad del> > > Genealog?a de la expansi?n de las familias troncales que poblaron las orillas orientales y Norte de Los Altos. Segunda mitad del siglo XVI.> > Se desprend?an desde Guadalajara hacia Teocaltiche., de ah? hacia Jalostotitlan, Lagos, San Miguel el Alto, San Juan de los Lagos, Mirandilla, Valle de Guadalupe, Tepatitl?n y Guadalajara de nuevo.> > De estas mismas ramas, hubo desplazamientos> hacia Le?n (familia Ulloa y Parada Aguilar), Silao, Celaya e Irapuato (familia Mart?n), Gto.> De Jalostotitl?n, sali? la familia Garza para fundar la ciudad de Monterrey, NL.> (Ordenanzas de colonizaci?n de 1573).> > TRONCOS FAMILIARES PRINCIPALES> > 1. Lomel?, Gallo, Gonz?lez (provenientes de Yahualica).> 2. Padilla, Reynoso.> 3. Issasi, Serrano, Sanrom?n, Ortiz de Parada, Hermosillo.> 4. P?rez, Franco, Padilla, Jim?nez, Reynoso, Gonz?lez> 5. Barba, Gonz?lez.> > Fuente: Sociedad y conflicto en los Altos de Jalisco. P?g. 87, citado por Gtz, Gtz J.A. 1989. Colecci?n Regiones. CONACULTA.> > Escribo esto, porque una persona de nombre Steven, asegura equivocadamente que los apellidos Lomel?n, Isassi, Lavezares y Sigala, provienen de italianos que se asentaron en Los Altos, lo cual es inexacto.> Lomel?n es de origen moro, asentado en Granada y C?rdoba al Sur de Espa?a. Ya en 1624 un portador de este apellido era Don Pedro Lomel?n.> Isassi es de origen totalmente vasco, siendo un> o de sus representantes don Francisco Isassi de Olavarr?a.> Lavezares, proviene de la provincia de Vizcaya, donde destaca el militar Guido de Lavezares> Sigala proviene de Palma de Mallorca y su escudo consta de un ?guila de plata con las patas y garras puestas hacia arriba en situaci?n de ataque.> > Saludos, Vicente de San Miguel.> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> _________________________________________________________________> Introducing Live Search cashback . 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The children mentioned of Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Ana Gonzales Florida included Theresa who married Diego Flores de la Torre. Their daughter Juana married Tomas Martin del Campo. They had 9 children. Their daughter Cecilia married Jose Joaquin Gutierrez... These are my ancestors.
Hola Rick , I didn't know there was a Legend .Do you know anything about it ?
Ronnie ,pariente acasi todos de Los Altos
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I guess this just means that despite your European appearance, your child is
definitely one of "us" (smile). You know how we are....we come in all
shades and eye coloring...even within a family of siblings!
I found this for you: it is called the "Mongolian spot"
At least one Mongolian spot is present on over 90% of Native Americans and
people of African descent, over 80% of Asians, over 70% of Hispanics,and people
of African descent, over 80% of Asians, over 70% of Hispanics, and just
under 10% of fair-skinned _infants_ (http://www.drgreene.com/54_5.html)
(Clinical Pediatric Dermatology, 1993). Despite the name, Mongolian spots have no
known anthropologic significance, except for being more common in darker-skinned
infants.
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here is an interesting film. has anyone ordered and researched it?
Title Documentos eclesiásticos, 1772-1784
Authors Iglesia Católica. Arzobispado de Guadalajara (México) (Main
Author)
Notes Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo General de Indias en
Sevilla, España.Membership lists and other documents from the
Archbishopric of Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
Subjects México, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Church records
México, Jalisco, Totatiche - Church records
México, Jalisco, Tlajomulco de Zúñiga - Church records
México, Jalisco, La Razón - Church records
México, Jalisco, San Juan de los Lagos - Church records
Format Manuscript (On Film)
Language Spanish
Publication New York, New York : Filmados por Syracuse University, 1976
Physical 1 carrete de microfilme ; 35 mm.
For a printable version of this record click here then click your
browser's Print button.
© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.
Note Location
Film
Descripción y padrones de la Audiencia de Guadalajara 1772-1773, 1784
Cartas y expedientes 1772 Padrón de Totatiche de Taltenango 1773 Padrón
de Sr. San Juan 1772-1773, 1784 Padrón de la Razón 1773 Testimonio del
plan del curato de Tlajomulco 1772-1773 FHL INTL Film
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That's very interesting. Thanks for letting us know.
My nephew was born with the Mongolian blue spot. The only person in our family we believe was ever born that way. Like your haplogroups, his purplish spot at the base of his spine is like a signpost pointing across the Pacific.
Everybody had to see his butt!
Mexico has a long connection with the east. as Arturo indicated. The Filipinos cheered "Viva Mexico, Mabuhay!" when they heard Mexico had broken away from Spain. They expected it was their turn next. And indeed, a Mexican soldier serving in Manila declared the Independence of the Phillippines.
But the Spaniards swiftly caught him, and hung him from the highest tree.
The last flotilla left Las Filipinas loaded with silks and porcelains from China for Acapulco. and beyond.
But the Mexican govenrment confiscated the goods and refused to compensate the Filipino merchants, bankrupting many, and bringing an end to the Spanish Galleon trans-Pacific trade.
Hello-
I am researching the family of Beltran de La Cueva, or Beltran or De La
Cueva in the 17th century in Aguascalientes.
I am looking for info on:
Nicolasa Beltran de la Cueva AKA Nicolasa Theresa de la Cueva born abt.
1684. in Aguascalientes.
Her parents are:
Pedro de La Cueva and Elena Beltran.
Also I have read the book on the San Gabriel Valley and it was wonderfully
helpful to get me this far back.
Thanks!
Hello Everyone,
These are new names and dates that I have found in my Muñoz line, which come from San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitlan, Tepatitlan, san Miguel el Alto and Lago de Moreno. The ‘m’ is for marriage.
I know that Jose Pedro Muñoz was a high official in the late 1800’s and left due to the Revolution.
Sophia
m1884: Jose Pedro Muñoz(1854) married Francisca Lozano(1862) San Juan de los Lagos
Jose Pedro’s parents: Jose Narcisco Muñoz(1831) & Juliana Angel(1835) San Juan de los Lagos
Jose Narcisco’s parents: m1813-Jose Rafael Muñoz & Ma Alvina de Anda, San Juan de los Lagos
Ma Alvina’s’s parents: Jose Rafael de Anda & Josefa Ortega, San Juan de los Lagos
Jose Rafael’s parents: Luiz Antonio Muñoz(1764) & Luiza Maria Romo(1769) San Juan de los Lagos
Luiz’s parents: Francisco Muñoz de Nava & Juana Rosario Dias de Zandi, San Juan de los Lagos
Luiza’s parents: Juan Caietano Romo & Ma Guadalupe Martin, San Juan de los Lagos
Juliana’s parents: m1835-Jose Tiburcio Angel(1822) & Ma Trinidad Peres, San Juan de los Lagos
Tiburcio’s parents: m1815-Antonio Angel & Cleta Flores, San Juan de los Lagos
Trinidad’s parents: m1801-Antonio Peres & Ma Dolores Pacheco, San Juan de los Lagos
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Francisca’s parents: Guadalupe Lozano & Ma Lina Medina(1862) San Juan de los Lagos
Ma Lina’s parents: m1819- Jose Francisco Medina(1771) & Felipa Ramirez, San Juan de los Lagos
Jose Francisco’s parents: m1767- Antonio Medina & Pheliciana Velasquez, San Juan de los Lagos
Pheliciana’s parents: Juan Manuel Velasquez & Ma de San Juana Urqisa
Felipa’s parents: Ygnacio Ramirez & Marina Marquez
Guadalupe Lozano’s parents: Jose Marcelo Lozano & Juana Gertrudis Gonzalez(1772)
Jose Marcelo’s parents: m1769-Joseph Candido Lozano(1745) & Ma Dolores Camarena(1750)Ayotlan, Jalisco
Joseph Candido’s parents: Nicolas Lozano & Antonia Michaela Garcia
Ma Dolores’ parents: Phelipe Camarena & Ma Candelaria Padilla
Juana Gertrudis’ parents: m1771- Nicolas Gonzalez & Maria Simona Gutierrez(1752)Jalostotitlan, Jalisco
Nicolas’ parents: Domingo Gonzalez & Gertrudis de la Torre
Maria Simona’s parents: m1749-Joseph Gutierres de Mendoza & Mariana Muñoz de Nava, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco
Mariana’s parents: Manuel Muñoz & Maria SanJuan del Campo
Joseph’s parents:m1721-Cristobal Gutierres de Mendoza(1695) & Antonia Micaela Macial, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco
Hola a todos,
Se les avisa que las fechas tentativas para realizar la conferencia de
genealogía e historia de Los Altos de Jalisco aquí en Valle de Guadalupe son
el sábado 26 de julio y sábado 2 de agosto. El evento constará de un día de
conferencias, pláticas y una comida entre los miembros del grupo de Nuestros
Ranchos e invitados especiales. El siguiente día (domingo) se ofrecerá un
recorrido por Teocaltiche, Jalostotitlán, San Miguel el Alto y Valle de
Guadalupe, dependiendo de la cantidad de personas interesadas en este
recorrido. Los cronistas de cada lugar serán invitados a dar el recorrido
con nosotros.
También les hago saber que en las pláticas del sábado contaremos con la
presencia de una gran cantidad de cronistas de la región de Los Altos y de
varias personas que conocen bastante de la genealogía e historia de nuestra
región de Los Altos.
El temario de la conferencia aun esta en desarrollo, pero les aseguro que
será del interés de todos y que no se decepcionarán, ya que contaremos con
la presencia del gran historiador Mariano Gonzalez Leal, entre otros grandes
invitados. Así que comiencen a hacer planes para venir a la conferencia y
reunión de Nuestros Ranchos en Valle de Guadalupe. La fecha exacta aun está
por confirmar, dependiendo del día que escoja Don Mariano Gonzalez Leal, y
la cooperación para los que quieran asistir a la comida y reunión particular
con Don Mariano Gonzalez Leal, cronistas de la región e invitados
especiales, donde habrá oportunidad de adquirir sus libros y que los
autografíen los autores, será mínima.
Para los que quieran recorrer los pueblos mencionados, si la cantidad de
personas es considerable, se buscará rentar un camión especial para el
traslado y solo se pedirá que entre todos cooperemos para cubrir el costo
del mismo. Así que entre más personas vayamos, menor será el costo del
viaje.
Para los que se preguntan acerca del hospedaje, aquí en Valle de Guadalupe
hay un hotel pequeño y céntrico que cuenta con 6 habitaciones, pero en
Tepatitlán pueden encontrar una buena cantidad de hoteles muy buenos y a tan
solo 25 km de Valle de Guadalupe.
Se les pide a las personas que deseen asistir al recorrido o a la comida
particular que me lo hagan saber para reservarles un lugar, ya que hay cupo
limitado. Para la conferencia, el costo será gratuito y el público en
general será invitado a asisitir.
Cualquier pregunta, por favor háganmela saber.
Gracias,
Ricardo Rodriguez
Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco
there have been some changes to this site this week:
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joseph
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Does anybody have any information on the line of Mariano Espara and Josefa Sanchez marriage of August 12,1875 in noria de angeles,Zacatecas........
Daniel Briones
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Hello there,
I personally have not yet connected anyone from the many last names on my tree to Coahuila or Nuevo Leon. About 90% of my family stayed in the 3 states, the other 10% went on to California and Chihuahua.
When you least expect it, you will find the link... don't give up :-)
For me, it usually happens in the middle of the night when I can't sleep and decide to try one more time.
Saludos,
Sandra Gómez Mendoza
San Antonio, TX
Don't know if you had this already...but might this be the same Florencio
Luna and Albina Magallanez from your family?
ALVINA MAGALLANES _Pedigree_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/pedigree_view.asp?recid=1002…
=1) Female _Family_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/family_group_record.asp?fami…
=1)
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Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
____________________________________
Marriages: Spouse: _FLORENTINO LUNA_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=…)
_Family_ (http://www.familys
earch.org/Eng/Search/igi/family_group_record.asp?familyid=271306860&indi_id=100228114765&lds=1®ion=10&frompage=1)
Marriage: 27 APR 1881 Moyahua, Zacatecas, Mexico
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Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
____________________________________
Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type:
Printout Call No.: Type: _M643958_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/search_igi.asp?batch_number=…) 1825 - 1860 _1162574_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.as…
ilmhitlist&columns=*,180,0&filmno=1162574) Film NONE _M643958_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/search_igi.asp?batch_number=…
ion=10) 1870 - 1891 _1162574_
(http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.as…
74) Film NONE
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Hello to all,
For those of us who have the Moctezuma line. Interesting note on the news this past week...
Enjoy! This is neat!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25100456/
Can't wait to visit.
Saludos!
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/13/powerful-light-scope-used-to-unearth…
joseph
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http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)
Thanks to member Sally who provided more ancestors for me to research, I was able to find Nicolasa de la Torre, father Roque de la Torre, mother Juana de la Torre, christening date 24 March 1694. FHL film 439844 dates 1685-1716 recorded in Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico, two generations away from what Sally has called The Tronco of my Gonzales line. Thanks Sally and to Nuestros Ranchos group. Anita
Hola a todos!
Estoy ayudando a una amiga con su genealogia del apellido Rizo en Jalisco. Su abuelo le comenta que viene de Italianos :-)
Alguien sabe el origen del apellido Rizo en Jalisco?
Gracias!
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Hello all!
I'm helping a friend of mine with the root the Rizo last name in Jalisco. Her grandfather told her that it was Italian :-)
Any thoughts on the origin of the Rizo last name in Jalisco?
Thanks!
Hello,
This is my first time here. My name is Del.
I am very glad to be a member of this group.
The names that I am researching are: Paula RAMOS born 1-29-1876 in AGUASCALIENTES, married Guadalupe MARTINEZ born 1873 possibly ZACATECAS, Mexico. They married in 1899 possibly ZAC. ZAC., Mexico. They lived in these areas; JALISCO, AGUASCALIENTED, ZACATECAS, CALIFORNIA.
Other surnames reseaching: MASCORRO maiden name of Paula's mother, REYES, VASQUEZ, RODRIGUEZ all related somehow.
Any information please email me at deljmar99@webtv.net Gracias!
Joseph Puentes,
I noticed that these films are shown in the FILMS section here at NuestrosRanchos and I was wondering if and when they would be available for us to research them here.
Burials 1785-1818 443797 Joseph Puentes
Burials 1832-1849 443793 Joseph Puentes
Death 1718-1801 443791 Joseph Puentes; Arturo Ramos
Death 1801-1832 443792 Joseph Puentes
Here is an inexpensive way to view this book at your local family history center. Fiche cost 15 cents per page and these two volumes are on 15 individual fiche sheets. I haven't read it but it looks like it goes into some detail about Zacatecas history. If you are interested order a copy for your family history center:
Title
Bosquejo histórico de Zacatecas
Stmnt.Resp.
por Elías Amador
Authors
Amador, Elías (Main Author)
Notes
Microfiche del original impreso en Zacatecas : Pedroza, 1892?
La Biblioteca tiene solamente los primeros dos tomos, fotocopiados en un volume.
The Library has only the first two volumes, filmed as one volume.
Contenido: t. 1. Desde los tiempos remotos hasta el año de 1820 -- t. 2. Desde el año de 1820 al de 1857.
History of Zacatecas, Mexico.
Subjects
México, Zacatecas - History
Format
Manuscript (On Fiche)
Language
Spanish
Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1992
Physical
15 hojas de microfiche ; 105 mm.
Subject Class
972.43 H2
Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Bosquejo Histórico de Zacatecas - FHL INTL Fiche [ 6030603 ]
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