HOLA MI BISABUELA ERA DE EL AGUILA JALOSTOTITLAN SE LLAMABA TEODORA MARTIN PADILLA NACIDA EN 1875 HIJA DE FELICIANO MARTIN Y JOSEFA PADILLA, ABUELOS PATERNOS FRANSISCO MARTIN Y ROSALIA GOMEZ, ABUELOS MATERNOS FELIPE PADILLA Y JUANA N GUTIERREZ POR SI TIENEN ALGO SE LOS AGRADECERE MUCHO
UN SALUDO A TODOS MI ABUELA MATERNA ERA DE SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS SE LLAMABA RAFAELA HERMOSILLO DIAZ COMO EN 1900 HIJA DE JUAN HERMOSILLO GARCIA Y FRANSISCA DIAZ MARTINEZ, ABUELOS PATERNOS ELUSTIAQUIO HERMOSILLO Y MODESTA GARCIA, ABUELOS MATERNOS JUSTO DIAZ Y FELICITAS MARTINEZ, POR SI ALGUIEN TIENE ALGO DE INFORMASION PARA QUE ME PUEDA AYUDAR A SEGUIR CON MI ARBOL GENEALOGICO
HOLA A TODOS PUES YO TENGO ALGO DE INVESTIGACION DE MI FAMILIA POR PARTE DE MI MAMA QUE SON DE JALOS E LLEGADO HASTA EL ABUELO DE MI BISABUELO QUE SE LLAMABA JOSE TELESFORO GUTIERREZ GONZALEZ NACIO APROXIMADAMENTE EN 1831, ERA HIJO DE CRISANTO GUTIERREZ Y MARIANA GONZALEZ POR SI ALGUIEN TIENE INFORMASION DE LOS ANCESTROS DE MI TATARAABUELO ME GUSTARIA QUE NOS PUSIERAMOS EN CONTACTO PARA PODER HACER LLENAR UN POCO MAS MI ARBOL GENEALOGICO
Anyone in the group studying either Ramirez or Resa's in Colotlan or
possibly in Jerez? or Villanueva?
joseph
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Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)
On the "lighter" side:
Thanks to my primos here at NuestrosRanchos who helped me confirm my DE LEON family tree I was able to find a couple of "fun-facts".
1. Even though my parents were double-related as cousins., I was able to connect them (triple-cousins) to Martin de Enriqyes ( b. abt. 1675). My father Elias de Leon (1904-1999) is his direct 8th descendant (12 generations) and my mother Maria Carlos (1909-1992) is his 9th direct descendant (13 generations). Double Whammy! Am I my mother's equal cousin ????
2. My earliest direct ancestor is Manuel de Leon and his wife Josepha de Escovedo (both born abt. 1680 ). They had several children but two of their sons' children married each other. Since both of my GGGGGGPs (who were married to each other) were DE LEON "primo-hermanos" and direct grandchildren of Manuel and Josepha who were my "double" GGGGGGGPs, am I a "double" DE LEON ???? Ha Ha!
I haven't fully checked out this site but if you type in "Mexico" in the
search engine you'll come up with several pages of art and who knows
what other things might be found:
http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/online_tours/americas.aspx
10. British Museum: The Americas
http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/online_tours/americas.aspx
Over the past few years, the British Museum has continued to expand their
online offerings. In their "Explore" area, they have created a number of
online tours that explore Asia, Africa, ancient Greece, Egypt, and Japan.
This particular online tour covers the Americas through a number of thematic
collections culled from their vast holdings. Visitors might wish to start by
looking over the tour that includes images of kayak clothing from Greenland,
as it provides some nice images and a number of insights into how kayakers
past and present cope with the bone-chilling cold of the Arctic region.
Moving on, the site also includes a tour titled "Unknown Amazon". Here,
visitors can learn about the people who have inhabited the Amazon River
basin over the past several thousand years. [KMG]
Hello ,
Does anyone know how to contact Luz Montejano Genealogist from Mexico? She and I share some ancestry and I wanted to let her know that the family line she has been looking for is in my tree. Thanks if anyone knows a current email/contact for Luz,
Regards, Yolanda
Hola a todos!
Aqui de nuevo "atorada" con mi investigación. La familia Gonzalez en Juchipila, Zacatecas termina con Bruno Gonzalez y Maria Prudencia Castaneda que son mis terceros bisabuelos y no se mas de ahi.
Encontre hace poco que mis segundos bisabuelos, Ynes Gonzalez e Ines Hernandez bautizaron una niña, Maria Luisa Gonzalez Hernandez en Tecolotlan, Jalisco. Alguno de ustedes tendra la informacion del bautizo? Ya ven que de ahi a veces se pueden sacar mas ramas.
Maria Luisa Gonzalez Hernandez
Bautizada
22 JUN 1851 Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
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Hello all!
I'm "stuck" with my research again. This time it's with my Gonzalez Family in Juchipila, Zacatecas. It ends with Bruno Gonzalez and Maria Prudencia Castaneda who are my 3rd ggrandparents.
A while back I found out that my 2nd ggrandparents, Ynes Gonzalez and Ines Hernandez baptized a daughter in Tecolotlan, Jalisco. Do any of you have information on this baptism? I may be able to continue my research with that record since there has been no further luck in Juchipila.
Maria Luisa Gonzalez Hernandez
Christened
22 JUN 1851 Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.:
C606132 1845 - 1855 1154548
Disculpen le error anterior cuando dije que La Vaqueria existia en el
municipio de Jalostotitlan. Sabia que habia oido de este rancho alguna
vez. En los 1920 a 1950, segun mi Papa, su cunada (mi tia politica) era
de la Vaqueria en el municipio de San Juan de los Lagos. Quien sabe
como se llame el rancho hoy, pero entonces en estos tiempos radicaban
Camilo Macias y Rita Munoz (padres de mi tia). El piensa que aun se
llama asi y que queda cerca a los ranchos El Tausinoque? Y Las
Golondrinas. Estos ranchos no los veo en el diccionario pero si los he
visto en actas antiquas como La Vaqueria. Hasta busque unos ranchos que
he frequentado en los pasados 5 anos y no estan en este diccionario.
Son ranchos bastantes grandes y existen en actas en los anos 1700.
Irma
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:07:32 -0800 (PST)
From: arturoramos
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Vaqueria en San Juan de los Lagos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
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Segun el Diccionario Geografico y Biografico de Mexico de Garcia Cubas,
existen (mas bien existian en 1880 y posiblemente hayan cambiado de
nombre) varios ranchos llamados Vaqueria en los Altos de Jalisco:
Uno en el canton segundo, municipalidad de San Juan de los Lagos; Otro
del canton unidecimo, municipalidad de San Miguel.
http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm
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Que no existe un rancho llamado La Vaqueria en el municipio de Jalostotitlan?
Irma Gomez Gtz de Lucero
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Today's Topics:
1. La Vaqueria (jjramirezi)
2. Re: La Vaqueria (Juan Ramón Alvarez)
3. Re: Sanchez y Valdivia de San Miguel el Alto (Rodolfo Sinai Gomez)
4. Re: Sanchez y Valdivia de San Miguel el Alto
(Jorge Luis Ram?rez G?mez)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:00:49 -0800 (PST)
From: jjramirezi
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] La Vaqueria
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
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Rick y Juan Ram?n, existe una rancheria llamada La vaqueria en San Juan de los Lagos (localidad 0148), aunque no pude encontrarla en el mapa, agregu? el listado y el mapa de localidades de San Juan en: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15162
Lo curioso es que aparece una localidad llamada Ojuelos en el mismo mapa, que de alguna forma concuerda con lo mencionado el el foro de discusion.
Saludos
Juan Jos? Ram?rez Ibarra
San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:26:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Juan "Ramón" Alvarez
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] La Vaqueria
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
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Gracias Juan Jos?
jjramirezi wrote:
Rick y Juan Ram?n, existe una rancheria llamada La vaqueria en San Juan de los Lagos (localidad 0148), aunque no pude encontrarla en el mapa, agregu? el listado y el mapa de localidades de San Juan en: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15162
Lo curioso es que aparece una localidad llamada Ojuelos en el mismo mapa, que de alguna forma concuerda con lo mencionado el el foro de discusion.
Saludos
Juan Jos? Ram?rez Ibarra
San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco
Does anyone know if there is an email adress for archives in Mazapil or Ciudad Zacatecas ?
Thanks,
Esther
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-------------- Original message from Lester Alvarado : --------------
> Hi Joseph and Arturo ,
>
> This week-end is the conference in the Mexican state of Coahula in the city of
> Ramos Arispe . I just wanted to ask you guys if you thought it might be a good
> idea to put the protocolos of Monterry and Saltillo in the Nuestros Ranchos web
> site for the use of following where the descendents from the three states went
> afterwards. As you know some them went to Coahuila and Nuevo Leon .
>
> If you think it might help , I will give Mickey or Josie a copy and when they
> get back to the states they can mail it to you .
>
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I just posted a scan of a a 1760 map of the "Fronteras de Colotlan" that I obtained from Archivo General de Indias.
Sylvia Corona:
Encontre la siguiente informacion en el indice, IGI:
Edmundo Gregorio Lopez-Gutierrez, nacido: 20 nov 1884 en D.F.; fallecido: 03 mayo 1955 en D.F.; esposa: Maria Gallardo-Porras.
Edmundo Gregorio Lopez-Pancurst, fallecido: 03 mayo 1955; nacido 20 nov 1884 en D.F.; casado: 18 sep en Chih., Chihuahua.
Los datos los sometieron un socio de la iglesia de los mormones. Es decir que no se extrajeron de los documentos originales. Tal vez haya manera de averiguar mas al fondo por medio de otro indice. Ojala le sirva la informacion. Tuve tiempo de buscar ligeramente.
David, en Albany, CA
-----Original Message-----
>From: Sylvia Corona/Rcac
>Sent: Jul 24, 2007 9:51 AM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] informacion sobre Pankurst, Lopez, Gutierrez
>
>
>
>
>AAndo buscando a Edmundo Lopez Gutierres 1887, nacio en Guadalupe y
>bautizado en Zacatecas. Su madre Carmen Gutierrez.
>y a Eduardo Pankurst
>
>Alguien sabe algo de ellos?
>Sylvia H Corona
Bill,
No he encontrado mucho sobre el apellido Tiscareno en Espana, excepto que existe el lugar Tiscar, en Jaen. Pero, al ver los apellidos de Jaen y Ubeda, Molina se presenta abundamente y parece ser nombre ilustre. Ver, por ejemplo, Maria de Molina y Francisco de los Cobos y Molina. Es posible alguna rama se enlazo con la familia de Juan Tiscareno y fue el origen del nombre compuesto Tiscareno de Molina.
Solamente un pensamiento....
Connie
---- Bill Figueroa wrote:
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Martin,
Que yo sepa, el primer Tiscareño que llegó a México fue Luis Tiscareño de
Molina. Se calcula que nació en Triana, Sevilla, España por el año de 1598.
Era hijo de Juan Tiscareño de Molina y de Elvira Márquez, probablemente
también originarios de Triana. No conozco el origen del nombre, pero me
imagino que es como tu dices, de ese lugar llamado Tiscar en Jaén, España.
Encontré el paso a Indias de otra persona con el apellido compuesto Torres
de Tiscareño, quien salió de España hacia el Perú en 1614. Ninguno de sus
padres llevaba el apellido Tiscareño, y al igual que nuestro ancestro, era
originario de Sevilla. Su partida aparece en el Archivo General de Indias
de la siguiente manera:
FECHA 1614-02-06 SIMON DE TORRES TISCAREÑO, natural de Sevilla, casado,
hijo de Alonso Sánchez de Olias y de Elvira de Fuentes, al Perú por
mercader. Información y licencia en CONTRATACION,5314,N.1,R.48,F.5v Véase
también CONTRATACION,5337,N.31 Véase también CONTRATACION,5339,N.28,F.3
Simón Torres de Tiscareño probablemente pasó a América antes que Luis
Tiscareño de Molina. Se me hace que el apellido es poco común en otras
partes del mundo. Yo nunca lo había oído hasta que empezé a investigar mi
genealogía en México. En Guatemala ese apellido no existe. Por si no la
has visto, el acta de matrimonio de Luis Tiscareño y Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza
dice lo siguiente:
El 16 de Mayo de 1623 en la Estancia de Morcenique feligresía de
Aguascalientes casaron el Capitán Luis de Tiscareño de Molina y Márquez hijo
de Juan Tiscareño de Molina y de Elvira Márquez; y Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza y
de Gabáy, siendo padrinos Francisco San Joseph de Montes de Oca y Anna Ruiz
de Esparza su mujer, y siendo testigos...Fernández de Valadez y Francisco
Macías Valadez y Salvador Ruiz de Esparza.
Es todo por hoy, Martin. Si encuentro algo interesante te aviso.
Saludos,
Bill
Estimados todos. Hace unos meses Ricardo Rodríguez me hizo el inmenso favor de proporcionarme el nombre de mis tatarabuelos por parte de la familia Valdivia y Sánchez, por lo cual estoy muy agradecido. La curiosidad insaciable del historiador me lleva a pedirles su ayuda para poder conocer la historia de esas familias y de ser posible el nombre de mis antepasados.
Alguien tiene información de quienes fueron los primeros Valdivia en San Miguel el Alto y cual era su procedencia? Alguno de ustedes puede decirme quienes eran los padres de Cirila Sánchez Sánchez que casó con Juan Valdivia Moreno? ellos son mis bisabuelos, padres de Agustina Valdivia Sánchez que nació en San Miguel el Alto en febrero 20 de 1931.
Muchas gracias.
Saludos a todos.
Rodolfo Sinaí Gómez.
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Does anyone have any information on Sanchez Perales in Guanajuanto, Mexico?? He came over in 1910, married my grandmother Epifania Gonzales in Fort Collins, Colorado.? He said his father's name was Margarito Perales and mother was Tranquilina Sanchez from Guanajuanto.? If anyone has any information on where to look or have knowlege of this family please email me.(hillefresno@aol.com).? I've looked in the family search site also. Any help would be greatly appreciated.? Thank you.
Christina
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Does anyone have a good source for old newspaper Obituaries? I am looking for an obituary that would have been posted about six years ago.
Also, has anyone ever used this service:
http://oa.newsbank.com/oa-search/we/Archives/
The site charges per obituary and I wanted to find out if it was worth it before purchasing. Also, wanted to make sure the site was reputable.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Angie Godina
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You mean the Visigoths coming to Spain during the middle ages, right?
The Celts, according to this article (and others I have read) had settled
in Spain even prior to the Romans who came around 200 B.C.
What I found fascinating was the Greek settlement of Spain!
Esperanza
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> Christina,
I think Maureen's suggestion is a good one. In addition to the border
crossing records I would try the 1930 Mexican census. The images are
available online at: labs.familysearch.org
With any luck you might find his parents were still living in the area as
well as his siblings or other relatives. The city of Guanajuato has 364
pages of census records. You do have to register, but there is no charge.
Maria Cortez
>
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>
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:46:32 -0800 (PST)
> From: Maureen Bejar
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Sanchez Perales
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
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> Dear Christina:
> Have you tried ancestry.com and looked for Sanchez Perales's border
> crossing? Sometimes if you are lucky it lists the exact address in Mexico.
> If there is a library nearby with a genealogy center then they may have
> ancestry.com free of charge. Some of the LDS history centers also have
> ancestry.com. You need to have a more specific area, so you are not
> searching all over the entire state. I could not find Sanchez, Margarito or
> Tranguilina in familysearch and I did a search of the LDS library catalog
> for Guanajuanto and did not come up with anything either. Is Guanajuanto
> the correct spelling?
>
> Maureen Bejar
>
>
I am hoping I can once again request from this group some information. You have all been so helpful in the past. This is in honor of St. Paddy's day....the Spanish/Irish connection.
I spend my genealogical time between the Irish (mine) and the Spanish (my husband's) I constantly tease him that sooner or later I will find that we are related. We have some similar traits and sometimes that is good, but other times it causes conflicts. Anyway, I am descended from the O'Neill family in Northern Ireland on my maternal side. My great grandfather's name was Hugh O'Neill and my grandmother used to tell us tales of the great Hugh O'Neill. We always thought it was ...you know....just fairy tales. Well, although somewhat embellished, some of her stories are in rare historical books. Anyway, out of curiousity, I started researching the Spanish Armada. Hugh O'Neill (not my great grandfather, but the famous one) was linked to this. Then I found out that many ships from the Armada were wrecked along the Northern Ireland coast. A couple quite close to my paternal ancestor, Owen Gallagher's home of Rosbeg, Donegal Ireland. Some accounts say that most of the soldiers in the ships drowned or were killed by the Irish or interrogated and hung by the English. Other accounts say that some Irish people hid some of the survivors and they eventually made it back to Spain. (I have another link to send with an interesting description of the Irish by one of the survivors, will send later)
Anyway, I am getting long winded here, but I came across a google book mentioning a familiar last name for this group.... Hurtado Mendoza (see page 107 on the link below) Hope this link works, if not let me know and I will give you a phrase from the book that will allow you to search.
http://books.google.com/images/cleardot.gif
Thought you Mendoza fans might like this.
Now for my question, does anyone know if the Spanish kept records of names their survivors and how they survived to come back to Spain? Where might I get my hands on some information on this subject?
Maureen Bejar nee Gallagher
Sounds like Guanajuato, Guanajuato... The city in the state.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
Out of curiosity I went to the Archivos de Simanca and typed in 'armada'. I received a response asking for a more detailed/specific request. Remember there was more than one armada sent against England. The survivor you mention is named Cuellar. He was one of the senior officers of the operation. You could query his name. Include the date with the word 'armada'. I have never researched the Simanca archives. It really isn't one of my interests. Good luck....
David in Albany, CA
-----Original Message-----
>From: Maureen Bejar
>Sent: Feb 24, 2008 8:41 PM
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] PARES and Spanish Armada
>
>
>I went in to the English translated page of PARES and did a search on Armada date 1588 and it produced no results. Am I doing something incorrectly?
>
>Also here is the paper from Hiram Morgan on the Spanish Armada and the Irish. At the end is the translated excerpt from one of the survivors.
>
>
>
>http://www.stm.unipi.it/Clioh/tabs/libri/1/14-Morgan(10).pdf
>
>Also, here is the website with Sir Francis Drake's account:
>
>http://www.britishbattles.com/spanish-war/spanish-armada.htm
>
>Both quite interesting.
>
>Maureen Bejar
Hola Everybody, I told that Diego Padilla Davila 's (son of Lorenzo Padilla Davila y Machicao and Mariana Temino de Velasco) WIFE -Ana de La Mota y Vera Parents were Jewish converts .I thought it stated in the book of Mariano Gonzalez Leal 's book Retonos de Nueva Espana. Any body have knowledge of this info.
Ronnie Reynoso- pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco
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