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Hola a todos:

Les comparto una inquietud sobre el origen del apellido Gabay o Gabadi.

Muchos tenemos como ancestro a Don Martin de Gabay "El Navarro". Había leído que el apellido era Gabadi y no Gabay, lo que ha confirmado al ingresar al Archivo de Navarra en donde existen varios expedientes de la familia Gabadi e incluso un registro de nacimiento en familysearch.

Había leído en varias fuentes que se trataba de un apellido de orígen judío pues Gabadí o Agabadí era el nombre que se le daba al recaudador de impuestos.

Sin embargo en un diccionario vasco-inglés encontré que se decía de los originarios de Gabat, antes Gabadi, pueblo cercano a la Ciudad de Bayona en la Baja Navarra. Esta posibilidad me parece más acorde a los demás linajes relacionados con ésta familia.

Me gustaría escuchar sus opiniones.

Saludos

Marcelina

I have found some sources that give some genealogy on Diego Temiño de Velasco’s wife Francisca de Alcocer. I would like to hear your comments and any information you could share as to whether what has been published here is valid.

Francisca de Alcocer
Father: jurado Hernando de Bañuelos
Mother: Isabel de Alcocer
Paternal Grandfather: Alonso Ruiz de Temiño
Paternal Grandmother: Juana de Bañuelos
Maternal Grandfather: jurado Diego de Alcocer
Maternal Grandmother: Blanca Núñez
Maternal Maternal Great Grandfather: Pedro de Toledo
Maternal Maternal Great Grandmother: Beatriz Fernández

Here are the sources:

There are postings on the nuestrosranchos.org that say that the parents of Francisca de Alcocer were jurado Hernando de Bañuelos and Isabel de Alcocer:
“Mariana Temiño de Bañuelos y Alcocer, hija del Alcaide de Temiño don Diego
de Velasco y de doña Francisca de Alcocer, quien fuera hija del Jurado don
Hernando de Bañuelos y de doña Beatriz de Alcocer, naturales de Bureba.
Burgos en Castilla la Vieja, España.”
- (Unconfirmed) Historia familiar, detallada genealogía...Por Leonardo De la Torre y Berumen

The parents of Francisca de Alcocer’s father, jurado Hernando de Bañuelos, were Alonso Ruiz de Temiño and Juana de Bañuelos. The parents of Francisca de Alcocer’s mother, Isabel de Alcocer, were jurado Diego de Alcocer and Blanca Núñez:
“Alonso Ruiz de Temiño, marido de Da Juana de Bañuelos, vecinos de Temiño. Hijos:
1) Fernando Bañuelos de Temiño, jurado, marido de Isabel de Alcocer, hija del jurado "Diego de Alcocer y de Blanca Núñez (San Bartolomé).”
- p. 386 Los conversos y la Inquisición sevillana, Volume 5 Juan Gil

The parents of Blanca Núñez were Pedro de Toledo and Beatriz Fernández:
“2) Diego de Alcocer, jurado, marido de "Blanca Núñez, hija de "Pedro de Toledo y de Beatriz Fernández (San Bartolomé).”
-p. 208 Los conversos y la Inquisición sevillana, Volume 5 Juan Gil

There are some references to a Alonso Ruiz de Temiño in 1491 suing over his grandfather el comendador Sancho Sanchez de Velasco’s estate. If this is the same person, then this may be where the speculation comes over Gral. Baltazar Temiño Bañuelos being a descendent of the Count of Haro.

En Español:
He encontrado algunas fuentes que ofrecen una visión genealógica de la esposa de Diego Temiño de Velasco Francisca de Alcocer. Me gustaría escuchar sus comentarios y cualquier información que pudiera compartir en cuanto a si lo que se ha publicado aquí es válido.

Francisca de Alcocer
Padre: Jurado Hernando de Bañuelos
Madre: Isabel de Alcocer
Abuelo paterno: Alonso Ruiz de Temiño
Abuela paterna: Juana de Bañuelos
Abuelo materno: Jurado Diego de Alcocer
Abuela materna: Blanca Núñez
Derivada de la maternidad materna bisabuelo: Pedro de Toledo
Derivada de la maternidad materna bisabuela: Beatriz Fernández

Aquí están las fuentes:

Hay publicaciones en el nuestrosranchos.org que dicen que los padres de Francisca de Alcocer se Jurado Hernando de Bañuelos e Isabel de Alcocer:
"Mariana de Temiño Bañuelos y Alcocer, hija del Alcaide de don Diego Temiño de Velasco y de doña Francisca de Alcocer, Quien Fuera hija del Jurado don Hernando de Bañuelos y de doña Beatriz de Alcocer, Naturales de Bureba. Burgos en Castilla la Vieja, España. "
- (Sin confirmar) Historia familiar, Genealogía detallada ... Por Leonardo De la Torre y Berumen

"Alonso Ruiz de Temiño, marido de Da Juana de Bañuelos, los vecinos de Temiño. Hijos:
1) Fernando Bañuelos de Temiño, Jurado, marido de Isabel de Alcocer, hija del Jurado "Diego de Alcocer y de Blanca Núñez (San Bartolomé)."
- P. 386 Los conversos y la Inquisición sevillana, Tomo 5 Juan Gil

"2) Diego de Alcocer, Jurado, marido de Blanca Núñez, hija de Pedro de Toledo y de Beatriz Fernández (San Bartolomé)."
-P. 208 Los conversos y la Inquisición sevillana, Tomo 5 Juan Gil

Hay algunas referencias a un Alonso Ruiz de Temiño en 1491 demandó sobre bienes de su abuelo El Comendador Sancho Sánchez de Velasco. Si esta es la misma persona, entonces esto puede ser donde la especulación se acerca Gral. Baltazar Temiño Bañuelos ser un descendiente del Conde de Haro.

I am finding references to a marriage between Juan Padilla Davila and Antonia Martin del Campo in several places. The date given is 25 abril 1705, either in Jalostotitlan or San Juan de los Lagos. I am having trouble finding the record for the matrimony because neither Jalostotitlan nor San Juan de los Lagos have books for marriages that early. Does anyone know where I need to look? Thank you, Daniel.

Does anyone know there surrounding parishes near Cotija. It appears there isnt any church records of Cotija for my grandmother in 1815. Please Help. Thanks.

Hi guys and gals

I found Cayetano as the son of Bernabe Valencia and Magdalena Valencia, he appears in the padron of Cotija in 1742, however he does not appear on the records for any of the other padrones, which could mean he lived in a different town, probably for work

In my records Cayetano Guizar married Juana de Torres (several of the Barbosa grandchildren indicate this couple as grandparents)
Rosalia Guizar, daughter, Married Jose Antonio Barbosa, their son
Jose Miguel Barbosa Guizar married Manuela Munguia in Tamazula de Gordiano, Dec 3, 1818

At that time in Cotija, (mid 1750s) this Guizar family seems to be only one of that name, however, it seems like they left many, many descendants in the area.

Does anyone have more info on this particular couple?

Any info is appreciated.

:) Cheers

Hello Primos!

In recent days I started researching the Ledesma lastname especifically the Ledesmas of Michoacan and so far I found out that they came from Guanajuato where I´ve located An Antonio de Ledesma (born around 1635 in Silao, Gto.) who married on 8-nov-1658 in Lagos to María Burgueño.

It seems that the branch that I´m researching decends from Domingo de Ledesma who married around 1674 to Micaela de Espinosa and were the parents of Don Antonio de Ledesma, baptized mar-16-1675 in Salamanca, Gto.

I´ve seen here some posts that say that de Ledesmas of Jalisco are descendants of conqueror Pedro de Ledesma and Isabel de Grado. Would you share please the lines from the mentioned conqueror to the jalisco descendants? Have you found any relationship with the Ledesmas of Guanajuato?

I´ll appreciate greatly any help

Having not even really discovered Mexican food, real mexican food until last year, where I Had some Suadero from a Comal, made by some Jalisco Locals in their backyard, I am now utterly entranced by street style tacos, andI wonder.
What are the dished and foods most commonly associated with San Juan De Los Lagos in Los Altos in particular. I know it's Jalisco food, by are there any speciality dishes from that town?

Thanks!
P.

My name is Betty Ritchley and like many of you, I have a rich and proud family ancestry based in Zacatecas. My mother's family started out in Los Jauregui, Nochistlan de Mejia, Zacatecas with Cristoval Manuel Jauregui Yanez and Catarina de Sarate Aramburu. The families kept migrating north, eventually settling in San Miguel de los Anchos in Chihuahua. My grandparents, Librado Quiroz and Maria Trinidad Rodriguez y Solis, eventually moved to Juarez, Chihuahua to escape the revolution.

I have been researching our family for a while now and have learned so much. If I can share any information that I have found, please let me know. I want to say how very glad that I have found all of you and look forward to working with you to learn more about our families and how they connect.

Hi everyone, I’m currently in Degollado, Jalisco visiting my parents. I have visited the surrounding ranches where my ancestors lived, la chancla, el sombrerillo, la Tinajera, barbechitos, el saucito, el lindero y la campana. Went and had dinner in Ayotlan and Huascato. I will also be visiting Jesús Maria. This time of year is green and beautiful out here.

Esther

Hola prim@s,

Many of us have ancestors from Jalisco that came from Cotija, Michoacan, and since there are no records of the parish available other than a few dispensas, I wanted to share these 2 census records that I found:

They were very, very useful in my research...

1759
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-67ZN-9?i=89&cc=1883388

1768
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:2:77TX-BNW8?i=1258&cc=1883388

I have transcribed both padrones into spreadsheets, if anyone is interested in such, I will be very happy to share that as well.

Happy day to all! :)

I am having an audiobook produced, dedicated to my great-grandmother,
Hipolita Orendain de Medina. I need to know the correct Spanish
pronunciation of "Orendain." I've gone to a variety of resources online,
but they don't all agree. I have no contact with any living relatives in
Mexico. Is the "dain" part of the name pronounced similar to the English
"dain" (long a sound), "dine" (long i sound) or "dean/deen" (long e sound)
? And where should the accent mark fall?

I truly would appreciate your assistance.

Thank you,
Laurel Anne Hill

I would go for a long i ( your second choice), but then that's how we (mexicans) pronounce it now, heavens knows how they did it back then.
Abraham de Alba

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I am having an audiobook produced, dedicated to my great-grandmother,
Hipolita Orendain de Medina. I need to know the correct Spanish
pronunciation of "Orendain." I've gone to a variety of resources online,
but they don't all agree. I have no contact with any living relatives in
Mexico. Is the "dain" part of the name pronounced similar to the English
"dain" (long a sound), "dine" (long i sound) or "dean/deen" (long e sound)
? And where should the accent mark fall?

I truly would appreciate your assistance.

Thank you,
Laurel Anne Hill

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Date: Tue,  1 Oct 2019 18:39:12 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi Rick, I see ?hermano?. I am however a novice in reading old
manuscript. I?ve asked a few people including historians and credible
genealogists and they concur. Maybe others can weigh in? I see: ?QUE EL
DOCTOR JUAN D?AZ DE ALCOCER DEL NUESTRO CONSEJO VUESTRO HERMANO... ? In
this immediate family there are many Diego?s and a few Pedro?s so I?m
not surprised that people easily get them confused and much of my research is
in secondary resources since Not everything is online and I?m in
California. According to Los Conversos y la Inquisicion Sevillana by Juan Gil
v. 3, page 206-211. Dr. Juan Diaz de Alcocer was the Brother of Diego Alcocer
(married to Blanca). Other brothers include 1. Fernando married to Gracia de
Prado ( I think the Prado Madrid fam) 2. Pedro Gonzalez de Alcocer
Coincidently, in vol. 5 p. 394 of this book series it lists Pedro de Toledo
married to Beatriz Fernandez, parents of Blanca Nunez is listed in reference
to Beatriz testamento in 1508 where she requests to be buried in San
Bartolom? ( juder?a Sevilla) and names her children. 1. Rodrigo de Toledo
2. Garcia de la Torre 3. Blanca Nunez , mujer del jurado Diego de Alcocer.
I?d be interested to know anything u would like to share on Pedro de
Toledo. My research so far encompasses the alcocers including Maria Ortiz
their mother but I?ve barely scratched the surface if Blanca. Best, Maven

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Hi Sus, This is great. Thank you for sharing. I found my many times gg
greatfather hernando Frias recorded. Best, Maven

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Hi,
I found I book online that I thought someone might find interesting.
the title of the book is:
NOTICIAS BIOGRAFICAS CONTENIDAS EN LAS PARTIDAS DE ENTIERRO DE LOS LIBROS SEGUNDO, TERCERO Y CUARTO DE DEFUNCIONES DEL ARCHIVO DEL SAGRARIO METROPOLITANO DE LA CIUDAD DE GUADALAJARA 1634-1667

Here is the link for the pdf:
https://www.museocjv.com/LIBROSDECLAUDIO/monografias/NOTICIAS%20BIOGRAF…

saludos

sus

Hi, Laurel....Orendain in Spanish (pronunciation) would be
"oh-ren-dine"....the "r" has a "rolled r" sound...long i sound...if you
google pronouncenames.com you can hear the pronunciation...best wishes on
your venture!

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 7:27 PM
wrote:

Dear Laurel,

Your question is a good one.

Spanish grammar dictates that words are accented on the second to last syllable of the word unless there is a written accent. However, the name Orendain is of Basque descent, so in Basque, the written accent falls above the “a”.

Did you see this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfR5xnbMsck
Here the accent is unwritten and follows the rule and “dain” is more like the English sound in “dine or pine”

Hope this helps.

Stephanie

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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 14:46:38 -0700
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I am having an audiobook produced, dedicated to my great-grandmother,
Hipolita Orendain de Medina. I need to know the correct Spanish
pronunciation of "Orendain." I've gone to a variety of resources online,
but they don't all agree. I have no contact with any living relatives in
Mexico. Is the "dain" part of the name pronounced similar to the English
"dain" (long a sound), "dine" (long i sound) or "dean/deen" (long e sound)
? And where should the accent mark fall?

I truly would appreciate your assistance.

Thank you,
Laurel Anne Hill

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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 18:39:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: pavendano@earthlink.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Two Diego de Alcocer
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Hi Rick, I see ?hermano?. I am however a novice in reading old
manuscript. I?ve asked a few people including historians and credible
genealogists and they concur. Maybe others can weigh in? I see: ?QUE EL
DOCTOR JUAN D?AZ DE ALCOCER DEL NUESTRO CONSEJO VUESTRO HERMANO... ? In
this immediate family there are many Diego?s and a few Pedro?s so I?m
not surprised that people easily get them confused and much of my research is
in secondary resources since Not everything is online and I?m in
California. According to Los Conversos y la Inquisicion Sevillana by Juan Gil
v. 3, page 206-211. Dr. Juan Diaz de Alcocer was the Brother of Diego Alcocer
(married to Blanca). Other brothers include 1. Fernando married to Gracia de
Prado ( I think the Prado Madrid fam) 2. Pedro Gonzalez de Alcocer
Coincidently, in vol. 5 p. 394 of this book series it lists Pedro de Toledo
married to Beatriz Fernandez, parents of Blanca Nunez is listed in reference
to Beatriz testamento in 1508 where she requests to be buried in San
Bartolom? ( juder?a Sevilla) and names her children. 1. Rodrigo de Toledo
2. Garcia de la Torre 3. Blanca Nunez , mujer del jurado Diego de Alcocer.
I?d be interested to know anything u would like to share on Pedro de
Toledo. My research so far encompasses the alcocers including Maria Ortiz
their mother but I?ve barely scratched the surface if Blanca. Best, Maven

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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 18:58:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: pavendano@earthlink.net
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Hi Sus, This is great. Thank you for sharing. I found my many times gg
greatfather hernando Frias recorded. Best, Maven

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Not sure if this has been posted before, but I recently stumbled upon a book titled "No queda huella ni memoria?: semblanza iconográfica de una familia" by Aurelio de los Reyes. The book appears to be out of print and I'm not sure if it can be purchased, but large portions of the book can be viewed through Google Books. Starting around page 171 the author posts an extensive collection of family photos - some dating as far back as 1864. It's a pretty awesome collection and if you have ancestors from Pinos or the surrounding areas you may want to check it out.

Here is a link to the book. https://books.google.com/books/about/No_queda_huella_ni_memoria.html?id…

Click on any of the selected pages being displayed and scroll to page 171

Can Any HELP! Those who have Ruiz de Velasco lines in Los Altos
the patriarch is Pedro Ruiz de Velasco y Haro married to ANa Núñez
y Bohórrquez. He is supposed to have been a relative of the Viceroy
Luís Ruiz de Velasco y Haro or commonly shortened to Luís de Velasco.
Has anyone made this connection yet or have any info or leads? If
Pedro was a Velasco y Haro he has to descend from Antonio
de Velasco, Sñor de salinas and Juana Ruiz de Alarcón. The Ruiz de Velasco y Haro last name was created when these two married. I have Pedro born ca. 1590
His uknown father ca. 1560 and his grandfather uknown ca. 1518 and his grt grandfather should be Antonio de Velasco and Juana Ruiz de Alarcón. Who
knows maybe the viceroy was his grandfather anything is possible but we need proof. Any leads or info welcomed! -Daniel Méndez del Camino

My name is Betty Ritchley and like many of you, I have a rich and proud family ancestry based in Zacatecas. My mother's family started out in Los Jauregui, Nochistlan de Mejia, Zacatecas with Cristoval Manuel Jauregui Yanez and Catarina de Sarate Aramburu. The families kept migrating north, eventually settling in San Miguel de los Anchos in Chihuahua. My grandparents, Librado Quiroz and Maria Trinidad Rodriguez y Solis, eventually moved to Juarez, Chihuahua to escape the revolution.

I have been researching our family for a while now and have learned so much. If I can share any information that I have found, please let me know. I want to say how very glad that I have found all of you and look forward to working with you to learn more about our families and how they connect.

Thank you for taking a look at this.

My husband’s 4th great grandfather was Andres Borjon (b.about 1800-1830), married to Manuela Resendes/Resendez.

Our records show then the Valparaiso, Zacatecas area, specifically Hacienda Carrillo. His spouse was Manuela Resendez about 1800–1894, and the children are:Son Cecilio/Sesilio Borjon 1829–1894 and Daughter Maria "Marequita" Borjon 1830–1918.

There’s a tree on ancestry that merges our Andres Borjon with Jose Andres Borjon Sanchez, from Atotonilco el Alto, son of Jose Ygnacio De Loiola Borjon Garcia (b. 1792), with several generations and extended family in Atotonilco el Alto, Jalisco.

I was excited to see this, because the Atotonilco el Alto Botjon Sanches lines go straight back to Spain.

But on further review, there are no documents linking our Andres with their Jose Andres. It's an assumption based on the names.

I’ve looked for baptismal records that show abuelos, nothing.

Our Zacateca records linking our Andres Borjon to the 3rd great grandparents/aunt are the death records that list Andres and Manuela as the decedent's parents.

I do note that others from Zacatecas seem to originate from Atotonilco el Alto. The areas are very close.

I’d appreciate any suggestions. Are there Atotonilco records that are not indexed or not on Ancestry/Family Search.Org? Are there any genealogy lists that might tell us who their Jose Andres Borjon Sanchez married?

Where should I look?

Thanks

Anita Brenner

Hola prim@s,

I came upon this IM in the San Matias Sierra de Pinos archives (found HERE), and I was able to make some new discoveries regarding the families of Juan Díaz de León cc Francisca de Ortega and Juan de Santiago cc María de la Trinidad.
Saludos!
Manny Díez Hermosillo

Gaspar Gómez de León and Ana de los Reyes

Gaspar Gómez de León and Ana de los Reyes petitioned marriage on 29 Sep 1662, in Sierra de Pinos. They were both categorized as Mestizos.

Gaspar Gómez was born around 1642 in San Luis Potosí. He was an “hijo de la Yglesia” (of unnamed parents), and had been living in Sierra de Pinos for a little over a year. Ana de los Reyes, aka Ana Gutiérrez, was born in Pinos, and was the daughter of Melchor de los Reyes and Luisa de Ávalos, both deceased.

Gaspar and Ana presented 4 witnesses to attest to their eligibility for marriage: Marcos Arevalo (Spaniard, age 40), Pedro Díaz de León (Spaniard, age 46), Juan de Santiago (Spaniard, age 67), and Nicolás de Medina (Mestizo, age 30). Of interest, are what Pedro Díaz de León and Juan de Santiago had to say:

Pedro Díaz de León (son of Juan Díaz de León cc Francisca de Ortega, and married to Josefa de Santiago) said that he had had Gaspar Gómez in his company for a little over a year, during which time, he had remained single and free of impediments to contract marriage; nor did he have any from before, for having heard it from reputable people, who had seen the youth grow-up in and around San Luis Potosí, as he had inquired with utmost care, after the boy came into his company, because he knew that he was the son of one of the sisters of this witness, for which reason he was helping him contract marriage with Ana de los Reyes, who was the 1st-cousin of his wife, and whom he had known since she was born, and whom he had seen grow-up in the company of his father-in-law. For this reason, he knew that she was also single and eligible for marriage.

Juan de Santiago (married to María de la Trinidad) confirmed what Pedro Díaz de León had said, that Gaspar Gómez, who was about 20 years-old, grew up in and around San Luis Potosí among reputable people, who were friends of his, and whom he had heard say, on several occasions, that there were no impediments for the youth to marry Ana de los Reyes, whom he had raised in his home, like a daughter, as he had baptized her (he was her padrino), and she was the niece of his wife. For this reason, he knew that she was also eligible to marry.

From these 2 statements, we learn 4 things:

1. One of the daughters of Juan Díaz de León cc Francisca de Ortega had an illegitimate son, who was born around 1642 in San Luis Potosí. Of their three daughters, two lived in San Luis Potosí: Ana de Ortega, who married Juan de Rebolloso, on 12 Jul 1620, and Francisca de Ortega, who married Simón Lopez de Olivares, some time before 13 Jun 1632. When Francisca de Ortega remitted her testamento on 12 Feb 1662, she named as her executor her husband, Simón de Olivares, and as her heirs, their two daughters. There is no mention of Gaspar Gómez being her son, who would have been born during their marriage. So that leaves us with Ana de Ortega. As far as I know, Ana de Ortega and Juan de Rebolloso (also Rebollosa) had only one child, Juan, who was baptized on 1 Nov 1621, in Pinos. On 6 Aug 1622, in San Luis Potosí, Juan de Rebolloso was named as a defendant in a criminal complaint, but after that date, both he and Ana de Ortega drop off the map. They were both deceased by the time their son, Juan de Rebolloso, petitioned marriage with his second wife, Teresa de Sosa, on 2 Apr 1670, in Cerro de San Pedro, SLP. It’s not difficult to imagine that Juan de Rebolloso (padre) died or was absent some time after August 1622, and that Ana de Ortega was involved in a relationship that resulted in the birth of Gaspar Gómez. Her caste was Spanish, while Gaspar Gómez was categorized as Mestizo, so his father would have been Indian or of mixed race. Note: this is speculation, it’s always possible that Gaspar Gómez was the son of María de Ortega or Francisca de Ortega, the result of an extramarital affair.
2. The wife of Pedro Díaz de León, Josefa de Santiago, aka Josefa Gutiérrez, was a daughter of Juan de Santiago and María de la Trinidad.
3. The same María de la Trinidad, who was also known as María de las Nieves, was the sister of either Melchor de los Reyes or Luisa de Ávalos.
4. In light of the fact that cousins Josefa de Santiago and Ana de los Reyes occasionally used the surname “Gutiérrez,” we can deduce that that surname originates with María de la Trinidad, and not with Juan de Santiago, giving us another clue to her origin.

Additional information about Gaspar Gómez de León and Ana de los Reyes

The children of Gaspar Gómez de León and Ana de los Reyes are:

1. Alonso Gómez de León Gutiérrez, d. 24 Feb 1744, Asunción de María, Ags; m. María Sánchez, Jun 1687, San Felipe Apóstol, San Felipe, Gto.
2. Francisco Gómez Reyes, b. 02 Aug 1682, San Miguel, Mexquitic, SLP.
3. Nicolás Gómez de León Gutiérrez, d. 21 Nov 1738, Asunción de María, Ags; m. Nicolasa Francisca de Carrión Gómez, 06 Nov 1715, San Matías Pinos, Zac.

Both Gaspar Gómez de León and Ana de los Reyes were deceased by the time their son, Nicolás Gómez de León, married on 6 Nov 1715.

Quiero saber si alguien tiene algo de informacion sobre Juan Vasques Perea y si pude ser el mismo Juan Perea mentado en el libro "Fundadores de Nueva Galicia" por Guillermo Garmendia Leal:

p. 13 "Lista de Otros 23 Pobladores de la Ultima Guadalajara"
PEREA, Juan. Originario de Valladolid. Hijo de Juan Perea y Elvira Sanz. Fue vecino de Mexico. Fue a la Conq. de Guatemala y Honduras. Fue a Colima con Pedro de Alvarado. Fue con el virrey Mendoza a la pacificacion de Xalisco. Se avecindo en Guadalajara siendo soltero.

Juan Vasques Perea caso "ya viejo" con Elvira Gil de Lara, hija del conquistador Juan Cermeno. Tenian varios hijos e hijas. Sus descendientes vivian en el area de Lagos de Moreno y usaban los apellidos "Vasquez Zermeno" y "Vasquez de Lara." Juan Vasques Perea murio cerca el ano 1550. Un nieto Juan Gomez hizo preguntas en 1576 a un conquistador "de los servicios hechos al Rey p[o]r el d[ich]o Juan Vasquez..."

Found this map of the "Puerto de San Francisco" by Juan De Ayala of the pacquebot San Carlos. This is a detailed map of the San Francisco Bay year 1775.

The dark shaded area is the water and the light shaded area is land. The mouth or entrance into the bay is as the bottom.

This map is complete with reference points. Point D is "Almejas" at the bottom. Point B is Isla Angel (Angel Island). There are so many other points.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/14y4kg8.jpg

If you want to see the archive from its original source so you can zoom it up close as much as you want and copy it form there?

The reference is: MP-MEXICO,305

Website is:

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

Hello!

Have you ever heard of a rancho or pueblo called Mineral del Favor? could be in Jalisco or Michoacan,

I am tracing Alejo Espinoza's first wife Antonia Barragan (the marriage record attached indicates she was burried there)

Thank you in advance

Hello!

Have you ever heard of a rancho or pueblo called Mineral del Favor? could be in Jalisco or Michoacan,

I am tracing Alejo Espinoza's first wife Antonia Barragan (the marriage record attached indicates she was burried there)

Thank you in advance

Rick responded to a post I had made in another part of the Forum; however, to prevent that post from going off topic I decided to make its own.

Rick's slightly edited post:

"Please provide more information if you want help on Juan Vasquez de Mercado and Ynes Rangel de Acuña. Who are their kids? What years are they likely to be alive? Where did they reside? Did they move around a lot or did they mainly stay in one or two places? Who were their padrinos in their kids baptisms? Do you have any specific information on them?

There were different lines of descent that carried the Mercado Vasquez surname. There are Vasquez de Mercado or Mercado de Vasquez throughout Mexico.

One of them was started when with Juan de la Cueva del Mercado, Señor de la Casa de la Cueva de Úbeda y doña Leonor de San Martín Vázquez de Acuña. They had a son named Juan de la Cueva Mercado Vasquez.

From Spain to Fresnillo, Zacatecas. mexico

A second line of Mercado Vasquez, or Vasquez de Mercado line originated with Lic. Ginés de Mercado y Inés Vázquez.

They had a son named Gines de Mercado y Vasquez. This line of descent is the one that the Vasquez de Mercado from Fresnillo, Zacatecas, descend from.

1). Lic. Ginés de Mercado ) y Inés Vázquez,

2). Capitán Ginés Vázquez de Mercado (b. in Talavera, Spain, d. 1553, Juchipila) and Ana Vázquez de Tapia (d. Before husband as he is a widower in his later years) ), Ginés and his wife Ana were cousins.

They had one son and three daughters.

Your Juan Vasquez de Mercado that is married to Ynes Rangel de Acuña is most likely a descendant of one of these four siblings."

END RICKS POST

I am direct male descendant of Juan Vasquez de Mercado and Ines Rangel de Acuna. I have taken a Y-DNA test if that will help at all.

Juan Vasquez de Mercado (I have seen him referred to using first name Bacilio and Onofre; however, this is in dispensas many years later) and Ines Rangel de Acuna had at least 5 children:

1. Juan Vasquez de Mercado m. 19 Feb 1703 Tepatitlan to Maria de Alva Navarro
2. Antonio Vasquez de Mercado m. 29 Jun 1704 Cuquio to Maria Plascencia Maldonado
3. Rosa Vasquez de Mercado m. NN probably to a Gutierrez
4. Maria Vasquez de Mercado m. to Juan Plascencia Maldonado
5. Domingo Vasquez de Mercado m. to Teresa Plascencia Maldonado

I determined the parents to these siblings via the marriage record for Juan Vasquez de Mercado and Maria de Alva Navarro.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-K79G-JK?mode=g&i=78&wc=3JD…

The record states that Juan, the younger, was from Fresnillo. It also states by this time, his father, Juan, had passed away. Unfortunately there are no records on FamilySearch for Fresnillo during the time period in which my ancestor lived so I've got myself a nice brick wall.

I have never seen Juan or Ines on any other record. Based on the aforementioned marriage record I assume they came from Fresnillo. Several of their children left that area and came to Cuquio, Tepatitlan and Nochistlan for unknown reasons.