earlier coronado records

where can i find marriage records for a jose (aka joseph lorenzo )coronado and or maria margarita Segovia? still trying to find parents for them i had managed to find some records regarding their children as follows: balbina theordora maria severiana and or pedro coronado . all children were baptized near Santa Maria DE LA Asuncion, Santa Maria Del Rio, San Luis Potosi, Mexico. oldest child balbina was born 1765 so they had to be married around close to 1760's.

Aparicio Alonso de los Ynojos abt 1725

In researching for my cousins line, I found them related to the following person
Aparicio de los Ynojos 5th grandfather but I can't seem to find his parents. Perhaps someone has already researched this family and has found his parents. Thanks for the help.

Juana De Dios Minjares Y Solorzano cc Santhiago Bargas
1707–Deceased • KCPW-9RD
This couple above have a daughter Maria Magdalena de Vargas who marries Aparicio

Aparicio Alonzo de los Ynojos
1725–Deceased • LY4T-1VC
Maria Magdalena de Vargas
1725–Deceased • MCQH-898
Marriage: 01 MAR 1745
San Francisco De Asis,San Juan Del Rio,Durango

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XD9-SRY

FIRST MARRIAGE
Aparicio Alonzo de los Ynojos
1725–Deceased • LY4T-1VC
Dona Maria Guadalupe Peres de Guisar
1725–Deceased • LYH3-4CQ
Marriage: about 1743
San Juan del Rio, Durango, Mexico

General Juan de Velasco y Barrios, comandante de flota de la Nueva España

Hola a todos:

Les escribo para compartirles una rama de la familia Velasco distinta de la que tanto se ha mencionado de los Fernández de Velasco.

Ésta rama inicia así:

Primera Generación:

El General Juan de Velasco y Barrios, comandante de las flotas de Nueva España Y Tierra Firme en la segunda mitad del siglo XVI. Encargado del traslado de los cargamentos de oro y plata a España.

Segunda Generación:

El Contador Rodrigo de Velasco Tesorero de la Audiencia de Nueva Galicia se casó con Doña María de Cárdenas y se avecindaron en Michoacán.

Tercera Generación:

Don Antonio de Velasco se casó con Doña Isabel de Grijalba, hija de Álvaro de Grijalba II y Catalina Ruiz, a su vez hijo de Álvaro de Grijalba I y Francisca Pérez de Castro originarios de Mérida, Extremadura, España. Don Álvaro II entregó a Don Antonio ciertas tierras en las faldas del Volcán de Colima.

(Es necesario agregar dos circunstancias: que Don Álvaro I y su familia pasaron a Nueva España en el séquito del Virrey Luis de Velasco en 1550 y dicho virrey hizo merced de tierras en favor de Don Álvaro de Grijalba I).

Se avecindaron en la ciudad de Colima y fueron padres de:

1. Álvaro de Velasco;
2. Andrea de Velasco caso con Juan de la Vega "El Mozo" y fueron padres de María de Salinas.
3. Rodrigo de Velasco casó María de Arellano hija de Diego Arias de Arellano y de María del Castillo.
4. Antonio de Velasco "El Mozo";
5. Juan de Velasco alias Juan de Grijalba Velasco.
6. Diego de Velasco;
7. Catalina de Velasco casó con Diego de Ávila Cepeda.
8. María de Velasco casó con Diego de Rivera.
9. Isabel de Velasco casó con Martín Fernández de Vaulus y se avecindaron en Aguascalientes.
10. Mariana de Velasco casó con Juan de Villavaso Covarrubias.
11. Jerónima de Velasco casó con Joseph de Covarrubias y Villavaso, hermano del anterior y se establecieron en Zapotlán.

Para obtener datos pormenorizados sobre estas familias es posible consultar el libro en línea Andariegos y Pobladores de Nueva España y de Nueva Galicia, de Miguel Romero de Solís. Sobre el general Juan de Velasco y Barrios y el tesorero Rodrigo de Velasco hay varios registros en Portal Pares.

Mi hipótesis es que de ésta familia provienen los Velasco de Tamazula que posteriormente entroncan con los Murguía.

Otra hipótesis es que estos Velasco están relacionados con el Virrey Luis de Velasco ya que Don Antonio de Velasco se casa con una nieta de Álvaro de Grijalba, persona cercana al Virrey, aunque la relación familiar no haya sido en línea directa.

Espero que ésta información les resulte útil.

Saludos

Marcelina

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Can some experienced genealogist decipher/read this word?

Hello forum,

I am trying to find out what the following word is.

It is in a christening record. The record is at the top of the right hand side page here:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-GY3K-HR

(Juana, 02 March 1614)
... fueron sus padrinos di[ego] h[ernan]dez bejarano y maria Romero su her[ma]na hijos de WORD?Laz[ar]o h[ernan]dez - y lo firme _____

Any help is very welcome.

First conquerors of the New Spain

Hello forum,

I want to share with the group this file I found at PARES:

http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/Control_servlet?accion=4&tx…

The file lists some family relationships of at least 6 conquerors: Martín de Espinoza, Francisco de Baldenebro Negrete, Juan Serrano, Francisco García Farfán, Pedro Sánchez Farfán and Diego Fernández.

I hope you find it interesting.

Rubén

Miguel Alonso de los Inojos

I am hoping someone can help me identify/confirm Miguel's parents. I have
not been able to locate records of his marriage to Phelipa Galarza,
daughter of Antonio Galarza and Feliciana Carrillo de Sandi y Lopez de
Rubalcaba. I descend from his daughter, Feliciana Alonso de los Inojos,
baptized 2 Dec 1713 in Teocaltiche, where her sister, Juana Francisca, was
baptized in 1711. Feliciana married Bernardo de la O Contreras in
Teocaltiche on 11 Feb 1733. There are two other siblings, Pedro and Maria,
identified by their later marriage records. I suspect that Miguel is
related to Pedro Alonso de los Inojos and Ana Dominguez of Aguascalientes,
but have never been able to find documentation of a link. Another clue
that makes me think they are related is that the godparents of Juana
Francisca are Xptoval Flores y Maria Dominguez. Can anyone help?:
Thanks for taking the time--Raquel Ruiz

At a dead end: Esparza/Lopez/Villalobos/Tiscareno

Leandro Esparza was born 26 February 1882 in Aguascalientes. He was the son of Antonio and Atanacia (Lopez) Esparza. Leandro married Maria Villalobos on 29 April 1916 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes. Maria was born 10 July 1893. Leandro fathered the following children born in Aguascalientes: Guadalupe V Esparza (1912-2001), Beatriz (1914-2009), Catalina (1916-1992)and the following children born in the United States: Alfred V Esparza (1919-2015), Leopoldo V Esparza (1922-1996), Aurora Esparza (1926-1991).

Siblings of Leandro are:
Atanacia Esparza (1869– ) born Calvillo, Aguascalientes and married Estanislao Tiscareño
Jose Zenon Esparza (1876– ) born in Calvillo, Aguascalientes
Eulagia Esparza (1878–1878) and
Cipriano Esparza (1879–1882)died in Jesús María, Aguascalientes

Would love to find details on Leandro Esparza or his wife Maria Villalobos' parents/grandparents.

Thank you!

Employment Definition

Could someone please define the difference between these titles: Empleado particular and Empleado Publico. I have ancestor who appears to be one signing and documenting as "encargado del --- registro civil". Puzzled why the job titles are important to identify perhaps working for the city? Was this person perhaps an important member of society?

Pedro Alonso de los Hinojos & Ana Dominguez

Hola prim@s,

I don’t have this family in my lines, but I’ve accumulated some information on them, which I thought I’d share with those of you who do.

Pedro Alonso de los Hinojos married Ana Dominguez 3 May 1620, on Paraje de Las Bocas in San Matias, Pinos. Their padrinos were Hernando Medel and his wife, Maria Perez; testigos were Miguel Diaz and Juan Vasquez. After marrying, they’d live on Las Bocas, eventually relocating to Aguascalientes, some time between May 1633 and Mar 1636.

The children of Pedro Alonso de los Hinojos and Ana Dominguez are:

1. Maria Alonso de los Hinojos Dominguez, b. 21 Mar 1621, San Matias, Pinos, Zac. Padrino Cristobal Hernandez. Appears as madrina for baptism of younger sister, Luisa, on 15 May 1633.
2. Juan Alonso de los Hinojos Dominguez, b. 03 May 1622, San Matias, Pinos, Zac, padrinos Cristobal Hernandez y Sebastiana Diaz; m. Ysabel Lopez Ramirez, 22 May 1652, Santa Maria de Lagos, Jal.
3. Luisa Alonso de los Hinojos Dominguez, b. 15 May 1633, San Matias, Pinos, Zac, madrina: Maria Alonso (her older sister); m. Blas Hernandez Gamiño, 19 Jul 1654, Asuncion de Maria, Ags.
4. Diego Alonso de los Hinojos Dominguez, b. 19 Mar 1636, Asuncion de Maria, Ags, pp Joseph de Alba y Da Catalina su muger; d. 07 Mar 1660, Asuncion de Maria, Ags. Clerigo Presbitero, ordained Corona y 4 grados: 11 Jan 1654; 15 Mar 1659.
5. Joseph Alonso de los Hinojos Dominguez, b. 05 Apr 1637, Asuncion de Maria, Ags, padrinos Juan Rodriguez de Chavarria y Beatriz Retamosa su muger; d. 06 Mar 1700, Asuncion de Maria, Ags; m. Maria Teresa Ruiz de Lizalde.
6. Ana Dominguez, b. 10 Jan 1639, Asuncion de Maria, Ags; m1. Juan Hernandez Gamiño; m2. Francisco Fernandez de Palos, 30 Dec 1688, Asuncion de Maria, Ags.
7. Pedro Alonso de los Hinojos Dominguez, b. 30 May 1643, Asuncion de Maria, Ags.
8. Nicolas Alonso de los Hinojos Dominguez, b. 02 Nov 1645, Asuncion de Maria, Ags, padrino: Hernando Calderon; Ordained, Corona y 4 grados, 4 May 1662, Aguascalientes.
9. Leonor Sanchez de los Hinojos Dominguez, b. 13 Jun 1647, Asuncion de Maria, Ags; m. Nicolas de Palos.
10. Antonio Alonso de los Hinojos Dominguez, b. 25 Apr 1649, Asuncion de Maria, Ags. Padrino: Diego Vasquez Buendia.

Thank you, Mary Lou Montagna, for the early San Matias Pinos baptism and marriage indexes.

ORIGINS OF PEDRO ALONSO DE LOS HINOJOS

According to the Limpieza de Sangre required when their son, Nicolas Alonso, took his religious orders, 4 May 1662, Pedro Alonso was son of Diego Alonso de los Hinojos and Leonor Sanchez de Ulloa, of San Luis Potosi, and Ana Dominguez was daughter of Miguel Diaz and Maria Medel, originally from Leon, Gto (and owners of Paraje de Las Bocas, in Sierra de Pinos).
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DVT7-V?i=554&wc=3JWL-YWG&c…

According to Rafael Morales Bocardo, in his “Diccionario...,” Diego Alonso de los Hinojos was a “dueño de recua”: he owned a mule train. He and Leonor Sanchez were also parents of:

- Diego Alonso de los Hinojos “El Mozo”
- Juan Alonso de los Hinojos, m. Beatriz Lopez del Castillo
- Leonor Sanchez
- Ysabel Sanchez
- Catalina Martin

On 6 May 1616, in SLP, Diego Alonso de los Hinojos agreed to act as guarantor for his son-in-law, Juan Muñiz, for a debt that he owed to Francisca de la Paz, viuda. Juan Muñiz and Ysabel Sanchez baptized Juan, 13 Jul 1616, Sagrario SLP.

When daughter Catalina Martin submitted her Testamento, on 4 Aug 1658, she declared that she was born in Zamora, Michoacan. Catalina Martin married twice: m1. Diego Lopez de Mesa, m2. Fernando Coçetillo.

Juan Alonso de los Hinojos and Beatriz Lopez baptized their first 2 children in Zamora: Madalena, 30 Apr 1610, and Juana, 7 Aug 1613 (agua) & 30 Dec 1613 (pusieron los oleos). The madrina on Dec 30 was Juana Lopez, the child's grandmother, so we know Beatriz Lopez was from Zamora, where she and Juan Alonso likely married.

That said, I have a feeling that this family group originated in Zamora, that Diego Alonso de la Hinojos and Leonor Sanchez probably had their children there, before establishing themselves in San Luis Potosi. So if any of you are researching this line, I'd recommend starting there. That's all I have.

Saludos!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

¿Quienes son sus padres? (Enríquez de Colotlán)

Espero me puedan ayudar a verificar esta deducción:

Gertrudis Enríquez contrajo nupcias con Diego Pérez el 27 de Mayo de 1747 en Colotlán, Jalisco. Los padres de Gertrudis no se mencionan en la Fe de Matrimonio, sin embargo ese mismo día se casa también Antonia Enríquez con Felipe Haro. Ambas provienen del mismo lugar del Morillo. Les dejo la liga de la Fe de Matrimonio:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-F3W8-K?i=421&cc=1874591

¿Se pudiera tomar como correcto que Gertrudis y Antonia fueran hermanas? Ya me he encontrado casos donde dos herman@s se casan el mismo día.

Help on names from Aguascalientes and Zacatecas

Hello all!

I would like to know if someone has more information on the following couple, as I haven't been able to find their parents:

Jose Manuel Ponce, married to Maria de la Encarnación Esparza, around 1780 in Aguascalientes.

Patricio Davila y Muñoz, married to María Francisca de Escobedo around 1770 in Jerez, Zacatecas.

Antonio Felix de Arellano, married to Juliana Diaz around 1790 in Jerez, Zacatecas.

Thank you in advance!

Alejandro

Jose Manuel Romo de Vivar and Maria Gertrudis Loera

I need help in finding the parents of Jose Manuel Romo de Vivar and Maria (Gertrudis) Loera. I have been researching the line of descent of their daughter Maria Micaela Romo de Vivar. Maria MIchaela was married in 1779 so this places Jose Manuel Romo de Vivar and Maria Loera as being born in the early to mid 1700's. Maria Michaela Romo de Vivar did marry another Romo de Vivar but the marriage record states that a marriage dispensation was not needed. This Romo line eventually leaves the Aguascalientes area and moves to Coahuila.
Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

Juana María Castallenos Villarroel y Antonia Castellanos Villarroel.

Hola compañeros, les quiero comentar que hoy avancé en mi genealogía de dos mujeres que no podía encontrar mas datos. Se trata de Antonia y Juana María Castellanos. No encuentro sus actas de matrimonio por lo que tuve que buscar en la Sagrada Mitra e Guadalajara algunas dispensas matrimoniales que me dieran pistas sobre tal. Gracias a dos dispensas matrimoniales pude llegar hasta Pedro de Castellanos y Ana Ramírez de Ortega, vecinos de Zamora.

Lo mas interesante que encontré, además de encontrar esos datos, fue el incluir nuevas familias a mi árbol genealógico, como lo es la familia Flores de Villarroel.

Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco, México.

Marcos Marin

I am looking for information on Marcos Marin and his wife Luisa. Actually, I am looking for opinions.

On the birth certificates of many of their children, her name is given as Luisa Tiscareño. In Ancestry.com, she is identified as the daughter of José Delgado de Gabay and Francisca Tiscareño Ruiz. However, there is a marriage for Marcos Marin and Maria Luisa on 5 May 1670 in Aguascalientes. They are indios - his parents given as Diego de la Cruz and Maria Magdalena, hers are Juan Baltasar and Catalina Maria. The interesting part is that her parents are identified as "..servientes en la hacienda de los Tiscareño..."

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-65T9-32T?i=36&wc=M6QF-… (it is the last record on page 37, continuing on 38)

The first child of the couple that I can find was Thomasa, baptized on 23 April 1671, which would fit with the May 1670 marriage. She is india. Maria was baptized 5 April 1676 and is also india.

Catalina, baptized 26 May 1678 and Luis, baptized 10 August 1680, are both mestizos.

There is a baptismal certificate for Luisa on 1 December 1653 - born to Juan Baltasar and Maria Catalina. I think that is probably the Luisa from the marriage certificate.

There is a baptismal certificate for Luisa Delgado de Tiscareño on 1 December 1649. This is the Luisa born to José Delgado de Gabay and Francisca Tiscareño Ruiz.

I actually think I just answered my own question in looking through all of this. I believe that Marcos Marin and Luisa (1653) are the parents of these children. I would like to hear all opinions.

Marcos Marin

I am looking for information on Marcos Marin and his wife Luisa. Actually, I am looking for opinions.

On the birth certificates of many of their children, her name is given as Luisa Tiscareño. In Ancestry.com, she is identified as the daughter of José Delgado de Gabay and Francisca Tiscareño Ruiz. However, there is a marriage for Marcos Marin and Maria Luisa on 5 May 1670 in Aguascalientes. They are indios - his parents given as Diego de la Cruz and Maria Magdalena, hers are Juan Baltasar and Catalina Maria. The interesting part is that her parents are identified as "..servientes en la hacienda de los Tiscareño..."

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-65T9-32T?i=36&wc=M6QF-… (it is the last record on page 37, continuing on 38)

The first child of the couple that I can find was Thomasa, baptized on 23 April 1671, which would fit with the May 1670 marriage. She is india. Maria was baptized 5 April 1676 and is also india.

Catalina, baptized 26 May 1678 and Luis, baptized 10 August 1680, are both mestizos.

There is a baptismal certificate for Luisa on 1 December 1653 - born to Juan Baltasar and Maria Catalina. I think that is probably the Luisa from the marriage certificate.

There is a baptismal certificate for Luisa Delgado de Tiscareño on 1 December 1649. This is the Luisa born to José Delgado de Gabay and Francisca Tiscareño Ruiz.

I actually think I just answered my own question in looking through all of this. I believe that Marcos Marin and Luisa (1653) are the parents of these children. I would like to hear all opinions.

Need help finding a Headstone in Cocula Jalisco /necesita ayuda para encontrar una lápida en Cocula Jalisco

Does anyone know how I can contact the cemetery in cocula Jalisco to locate a headstone? I can't find a birth record for a family member, but i have his death record. His name was Gregorio Antonio Esparza, died on May 2 1806 in Cocula, he was supposedly born in Amatlan de Canas in Nayarit around 1750's. Not exactly sure. Hoping his headstone will have a birthdate and parents names so i can continue my search. Or if anyone has tips on how I can get the info. The church record book that should have his info has water damage, So either his entry is on one of the areas that is damaged and cant read or he came from another area.

¿Alguien sabe cómo puedo contactar el cementerio en Cocula Jalisco para localizar una lápida? No puedo encontrar un registro de nacimiento para un miembro de la familia, pero tengo su registro de defunción. Su nombre era Gregorio Antonio Esparza, murió el 2 de mayo de 1806 en Cocula, supuestamente nació en Amatlán de Cañas en Nayarit alrededor de 1750. No estoy seguro. Esperando que su lápida tenga una fecha de nacimiento y nombres de padres para poder continuar mi búsqueda. O si alguien tiene consejos sobre cómo puedo obtener la información. El libro de registro de la iglesia que debería tener su información tiene daños causados por el agua. Entonces, su entrada está en una de las áreas dañadas y no puede leerse, o vino de otra área.

Does anyone have a conncection to Juan Esteban Esparza and/or Gregorio Antonio Esparza, Amatlan de Canas 1700's?

Hi. I'm stuck and need some help. Looking for birth record for Juan Esteban (or Estevan) Esparza born in Amatalan De Canas around 1767. His Father is Gregorio Antonia Esparza mother is Marian Lopez de Aguilar. I have Esteban marriage record to Maria Luciana Preciado in 1791 in cocula jalisco. In it, it says he is 24 so I can assume he was born in 1767. I can't find any other record to confirm age and birth place. He has a brother Joseph Raphael de la cruz Esparza born 1768 born in Amatlan, and a sister Maria Joespha esparza, born 1783 in cocula. I have the brother and sister record, but can't find the one for Juan esteban, even though it should be in the same book.

Record for the Brother.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17946-28217-14

Here is the Marriage record for Juan.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18430-34984-18

Its the last entry bottom right and goes for the next couple pages.
If anyone has any connection or tips that would be helpful let me know. Thanks!!