Lizama Surname?

I recently discovered a paternal line that leads back to Gregorio Lizama, circa 1810, father of Severiano Lizama, and husband of Guadalupe Guerrero. There is no indication of the birth location of Gregorio or Guadalupe.

I found the death record of Severiano showing his death taking place in Tepic, Nayarit on 02 May 1876. The record indicates he was originally from Rincon de Romos, Aguascalientes.

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60481/004882108_01514/704557?backu…

Does anyone have or know of a Lizama family in their tree? I am looking for a direct male descendent that would be willing to take a Y-DNA test, at my expense.

Thanks in advance for any input,
Roy

duarte families

can anyone tell me about the duarte families while rereading notes and or family search records my line is looking to be as follows:

Francisco Duarte
7th great-grandfather
Benancio Duarte
son of Francisco Duarte
Jose Ponciano Duarte (1809 - 1862)
son of Benancio Duarte
Maria Aleja Duarte
daughter of Jose Ponciano Duarte
Romualdo Coronado (1849 - 1916)
son of Maria Aleja Duarte
Francisco Coronado (1869 - )
son of Romualdo Coronado
Felisitas Coronado (1896 - 1974)
daughter of Francisco Coronado
John Coronado Martinez (1930 - 1994)
son of Felisitas Coronado
Johnny S. Martinez (1950 - )
son of John Coronado Martinez
Stephanie L. Martinez
You are the daughter of Johnny S. Martinez

however i havent found anything concerning my th great grandparents names as francisco duarte and or juana maria de los santos. the family search record was found here as noted: COPY
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Francisco Duarte
mentioned in the record of Jose Venancio Duarte and Maria Antonia Rodriguez
Name Francisco Duarte
gender Male
Wife Juana Maria De Los Santos
Son Jose Venancio Duarte
Other information in the record of Jose Venancio Duarte and Maria Antonia Rodriguez
from Mexico Marriages
Name Jose Venancio Duarte
Spouse's Name Maria Antonia Rodriguez
Event Date 06 Jan 1799
Event Place La Purisima Concepcion,Catorce,San Luis Potosi,Mexico
Father's Name Francisco Duarte
Mother's Name Juana Maria De Los Santos
Spouse's Father's Name Ynosencio Rodriguez
Spouse's Mother's Name Maria Juliana Mata

im stuck in this area also for road blocks sighs and would like to know the histories of these families

Ways to find Pablo de Alba ?

Dear Primos,
I have been trying with no aveil, to find a brother of (Jose) Pedro de Alba Perez, he was the youngest, named Pablo of parents: (Jose) Lamberto (de) Alva Jimenes and Librada Perez Muños, most probably born in San Juan de los Lagos. He is mentioned in one of my Grandfather's book, mentions that he was a Shoemaker. Only reference that I can find is his marriage to Maria Josefa Padilla Gonzalez, 19 July 1910 in San Juan de los Lagos.
Had to be born after 1886, (date my grandfather was born).
Is there another search engine other than Familysearch ??
I have tried most conbinations, such as: de Alba, Alva, Jose Pablo, with Lamberto and Librada as parents,
Nothing works,
Any hints, or help will be greatly appreciated.
The novice 
“If all you are trying to do is essentially the same thing as everyone else, then it’s unlikely you will be very successful.”   ~ Michael Porter

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Calvillo, Ags. 1834 Census de la parroquia.

Saludos, the Path on NR as follows :
FILES > REFERENCE MATERIALS > VALLE DE HUEJUCAR is a .doc document
... This seems to be a reference to LDS film number 635924 San Jose de Calvillo
... It seems to indicate this is a Census of the parish...
..
I have been unable to locate a link to view this film online searching by the film number. It only directs me to the entire Ags. Catalog.

...If anyone can direct me to this it would be appreciated. I am also searching for (If it Exists) Padron de 1820 for Calvillo, Ags.

Additionally I would like to view the Huanusco,Zac. & Tabasco, Zac. census from either of this years 1820 & 1834.

... Gracias.. David.

Help reading document. Phelipe Mexia and Ma de la Rosa Sandoval marriage Nochistlan

Hi,
I am having trouble following who is whose parent, grandparent, and great grandparent.
I got so far that Bernardino Mexia and Maria de Luna are Phelipe's parents.
But I can't figure out how Melchor de Moscoso y Sandoval, Mariana de Moscoso de Sandoval, and Magdalena de Islas are related.

Guadalajara-> Guadalajara Diocesis-> matrimonios 1724 to 1725-> images 454 to 458 out of 622.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6Y9C-CP?i=455&wc=12512…

Presentación personal / Personal Introduction

Presentación personal / Personal Introduction

Saludos a todos / Greetings everyone,

I am new to the group, although not so new to doing Los Altos genealogical research. My name is Kassandra Brenot; I am the great-grand-daughter of a Los Altos couple who came to the U.S. during the cristero war.

About 25 years ago I began researching my family roots in Los Altos, thanks to my Marquez cousins and the Somos Primos group in the greater Los Angeles area (including Mimi Lozano and Mary Lou Montagna and the stellar work they all got me going on, for which I shall be forever indebted). While my professional and family duties have pulled me away from my passion for genealogy over the course of the past twenty years or so, through some recent unexpected encounters through my work I have reconnected with my Los Altos roots...

I am the head of an all girls, Catholic boarding school in Monterey, California and have discovered that a few of the families at my school are Los Altos families! Knowing the prevalence of endogamia amongst los alteños, I figured we must be related so.... during my summer vacation, I dug back into my old files and jumped online and have been helping these families get started on researching their lines.

Lo and behold, we are related and we are now looking to start a small Los Altos research group here on the Monterey Peninsula. We had our first mini-get together last night with a small group that represented Ramirez, Loza, Campos and Gutierrez. Some of the members of these families immigrated only within the past 20 years, while others immigrated in the 1950s, settling in the Salinas Valley. As for my own family, it was my great-grandparents María Gonzalez Muñoz and José Lorenzo Loza Muñoz who emigrated from San Miguel el Alto to Carpinteria, California in 1926. Some of the names I am researching farther back in my lines (in the areas of Jalostotitlán, San Juan, Aguascalientes and Ayo el Chico) are the following:

Baeza
Becerra
Camacho-Riquelme
Fernández de Rueda
García de Miranda
González de Rubalcava
Hernández de Arellano
Hurtado de Mendoza
Lomellini
López de Fueresclava
Muños de Nava y Estrada
Loza y Linares
Lozano Vásquez
Machuca
Ornelas
Vásquez Cermeño

Through this group, I hope to fill in a few holes I have in my chart, as well as to help guide some of these families as they begin discovering the joy of researching their Los Altos family history. What I also hope to learn more about through this group is the rich history and traditions of the Los Altos region: I was only about 8 when my great-grandmother died so what little I know about Los Altos is what I have read about, found online, or heard about through cousins, grandparents and family friends.

(Hablo español)

Saludos a todos,
Kassandra

salvador ramires families researches

tryingto find earlier records for salvador ramires or ramirez who had married a woman by the name of pasquala melendes . family search has marriage record 06 February 1681 • San Francisco,Villa De Reyes,San Luis Potosi,Mexico .. their daughter known as rita franca ramires married nicolas de la rosa and had several children including my maria bernarda de jesus de la rosa and places them in or around san luis potosi mexico where can i go or whom i can talk to about the earlier records for these family as i have hit some brick walls and would like to know more about their histories? i have attached the film number in family search records as follows: Film Number 004806532 or is there any books or anything of the relevance i can buy?

Information on Diego Villalpando y Gertrudis Rodriguez

Hello Everyone!
This is my first post! I am currently stuck on my gggggg grandparents Diego Villalpando and Gertrudis Rodriguez, specifically on my Villalpando line. If anyone can help me find more information about them, their parents and so on I would greatly appreciate it.

This is my sequence:
-Juan Bautista Villalpando christening on 24 Jun 1860 Señor San Jose, Calvillo, Aguascalientes.
Sus padres eran Juan Villalpando y Maria Germana Esqueda. Juan Bautista se caso con Paula Serna ca. 1880.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-13030-10071-23?cc=1502404&…

-Juan Villalpando nacio ca. 1830 in Calvillo, Aguascalientes. Padres Jesus Villalpando y Maria Calistra Hernández. Juan Villalpando se caso con Maria Germana Esqueda el 27 de Noviembre 1857 en San Jose, Calvillo,Aguascalientes,Mexico.

-Jesus Villalpando nació ca. 1800 en probably in Calvillo, Aguascalientes. Padres Diego Villalpando y Gertrudis Rodríguez. (Jose) Jesus Villalpando se caso con Calistra Hernández hija de Jose Guadalupe Hernández y Maria Antonia Bobadilla, probablemente ca. 1825.

-Diego Villalpando y Gertrudis Rodrigues estimo que se casaron alrededor de 1790.

Thank you
Roberto Rosales Villalpando

Alonso de Llerena Agúndez

Hola compañeros:

Después de mucho tiempo de ausentarme de este grupo estoy de regreso, al menos durante las vacaciones y quiero desearles a todos un muy feliz verano.

En esta ocasión quisiera solicitarles su ayuda acerca de un recién descubierto antepasado cuyo nombre es Alonso de Llerena Agúndez, esposo de Catalina Martín y padre de mi antepasada Micaela de Llerena Agúndez o Agundis casada con Andrés de Ortega-Maldonado. He buscado en varias fuentes para saber el nombre de los padres de Alonso de Llerena y la única pista que tengo hasta el momento es que puede ser descendiente de Alonso de Llerena, fundador de Sombrerete, Zacatecas.

En el libro La Gran Propiedad de Cocula de Ávalos por Rodolfo Fernández se habla detalladamente de la familia de su esposa, Catalina Martín, nieta de Francisco Martín "El Viejo" y de Elvira Moreno (descendiente de conquistadores. Como la vista es restringida no he podido conocer su contenido al 100% pero al menos hasta ahora creo que no he encontrado ninguna pista más al respecto.

También quisiera saber si alguien conoce la identidad de los progenitores de Don Juan Gil, esposo de Mariana de San Agustín (hija de Francisco Martín y Elvira Moreno).

Les agradezco de antemano toda su apoyo en el tema.

Enrique Agraz Villarreal

Monte de los Velascos, Nochistlán, Velasco, Zevallos de la Barrera

Hi, I'm looking for information on a place (a rancho?) called Monte de los Velascos in the late 1700's Jurisdicción of Nochistlán. I'm looking specifically for Manuel Antonio Zevallos de la Barrera, aka Manuel Barrera, who I suspect married (María) Micaela Velasco there, sometime around the 1760s. Nowadays there's a place called Rinconada de Velasco, I wonder if that's how it's called now. Would appreciate any info.

Btw, I'm researching Tecalitán (now Tecalitlán) in south Jalisco. It was just properly founded in the 1780s and lots of people from Nochistlán appear there among the settlers, in case you have any missing lines.

Don Diego Rangel Peguero en Guanajuato

Hola a todos:

Como muchos de ustedes también desciendo de Don Diego Rangel Peguero, aunque he visto varios temas de discusión se refieren a la descendencia que dejó en Aguascalientes.

El caso es que tengo otros ancestros que eran de los pocos españoles que había en Victoria, Guanajuato, antes llamado Xichú de Indios en cuyas inmediaciones había minas de plata.

Al buscar miembros de la familia Mata encontré un registro interesante en el microfilm #004806008 de bautismos que el día 20 de enero de 1692 se bautizó a Juana María, española, hija de Diego Rangel Peguero y Petrona Enríquez. Hubo cuando menos tres matrimonios de la familia Rangel viviendo en esa población por lo que es una rama que vale la pena tomar en cuenta para quienes investiguen a dicho ancestro.

Hay otro registro de esa familia en San Felipe, Guanajuato:

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NP4T-DS6 : 11 February 2018), Joseph Romo Rengel, 30 Jun 1625; citing SAN FELIPE,GUANAJUATO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 644,362.

Otros apellidos que encontré que pudieran estar relacionados con la zona de Nueva Galicia son : Hinojosa y Valderrama, se cita en varias ocasiones al Secretario Diego de Valderrama.

Saludos

Marcelina

Cobian de Busto, Munoz de Aceves, Chavez Campoverde, Sotomayor, Lopez de Lara etc.

Alguien tiene información sobre las siguientes familias, la mayoría de Leon, San Francisco del Rincón, o Celaya en Guanajuato, pero con descendientes en la región de San Diego de Alejandría, Ayo el Chico, y Arandas? Las siguientes líneas son solamente las cuales de quien yo desciendo, ya que estas familias solían tener muchos hijos (con la excepción de los Cobian de Busto). Agradecería cualquier información, ya que ha sido más difícil investigar estas familias, ya que los registros de San Francisco del Rincón no han sido indexado por FamilySearch.

Cobian de Busto
El mas antiguo ancestro que he podido localizar es Antonio Cobian de Busto quien caso con Isabel de Tapia en la Ciudad de Mexico el 17 Mar 1717
( https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-5N9H-K4?i=698&wc=3P62-… ). Su boda también está registrado, pero en 1733, en Celaya donde fueron vecinos, mencionando que su boda se celebró en la Ciudad de Mexico. Ninguno de los partidos mencionan sus padres. Tuvieron al menos dos hijos:

Antonio Maria Salvador, bautizado en Celaya en 1725 con Dn Agustin Sandoval y Dna Manuela Estrada como sus padrinos ( https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9G66-GX3?i=584&wc=3V4C… ). Antonio fue teniente de cura de San Francisco del Rincon a medios del siglo XVIII.

Francisco Xavier Cleto Marcelino, bautizado en Celaya en 1727 con Dn Manuel de la Riba como padrino ( https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG66-PZ1?i=605&wc=3V4C… ). En su partida de matrimonio dijo que llego en 1756 a San Francisco del Rincon probablemente con su hermano Antonio. Caso en 1757 con Maria Eusevia de los Dolores Chavez-Campoverde y Sanchez Sotomayor, hija de Miguel y Alexandra Isabel, (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG55-9MWC?i=74&wc=3VHJ…). Murio entre 1777 y 1782 en San Francisco del Rincon. Ellos fueron padres de los Cobian del Rincon, yo desciendo de su hijo:

Juan de Dios, quien caso con Maria Josefa Munoz de Aceves y Sanchez, hija de Juan Estevan y Maria Antonia de la Encarnacion. Esta pareja son mis séptimos bisabuelos, y desciendo de su hija Maria Rafaela Cobian (n. 13 Aug 1791) quien caso con Pedro Villalobos Lopez (hijo de Jose Anastacio Villalobos y Tomasa Rosalia Lopez) quienes vivieron en la entre las jurisdicciones de San Diego de Alejandria, Arandas, y San Miguel el Alto. Consecuentemente, si alguien tiene mas información acerca de Jose Anastacio y Tomas Rosalia tambien lo agradecería.

Munoz de Aceves
No se la relación de estos Munoz de Aceves con los de los Altos. El padre de Maria Josefa, Juan Estevan Munoz de Aceves fue hijo de Jose Jacinto Munoz de Aceves y Maria Manuela Lopez de Lara y Zermeno de Laris (hija de Andres y Maria). Jacinto fue hijo de otro Jacinto Munoz de Aceves y de su esposa Isabel de Soto y Torres de Hinojosa. Este Jacinto supongo fue hijo (como los otros Munoz de Aceves contemporáneos en San Francisco del Rincon) de otro Jacinto Munoz de Aceves y de su esposa Catalina Martin de Acevedo, naturales de Celaya, Gto.

Chavez Campoverde
Los padres de Maria Eusevia, esposa de Franciso Xavier Cobian, fueron Miguel de Chavez Campoverde y Alexandra Isabel Sanchez de Sotomayor (hija de Juan Manuel Sanchez y Jacinta de Soto y Hinojosa). Miguel fue hijo de otro Miguel de Chavez Campoverde y su esposa Juana Lopez de Lara y de la Rua (hija de Juan Lopez de Lara y Padilla-Davila y Petronila Moreno de la Rua, hija a su vez de Juan Moreno de la Rua, alferez mayor de Leon, y Maria de Busto y Puelles. Maria fue hija de Pedro de Busto y Diez de Noriega, también alferez de Leon, y Ana de Puelles y Linan de Villavicencio). Miguel fue hijo de otro Miguel de Chavez Campoverde y de Juana Sanchez Gomez, originarios de Leon, Gto. No he podido conectar Miguel concretamente con los progenitores de los Chavez Campoverde identificados por Mariano Gonzalez Leal como Andres Fernandez de Campoverde, alcalde ordinario, procurador, y escribano en Leon, Gto. y su esposa Ana de Chavez y Acosta (hija natural de Rodrigo de Acosta). Tambien fue miembro de esta familia Rodrigo de Chavez Campoverde, Cura de Marfil.

Sotomayor
Isabel de Soto y Torres de Hinojosa y Jacinta de Soto y Hinojosa fueron hijas de Andres de Soto(mayor) y Castrejon (posible dueño de La Cañada de los Soto) originario de Patzcuaro y de Sebastiana Ruiz de Aldana y Hinojosa de Torres (hija de Tomas Ruiz de Aldana y Isabel de Torres Hinojosa Baron), originaria de Leon. Según unos registros de bautismos en San Francisco del Rincon en que fue padrino Andres y su esposa y que enlisten sus padres, Andres fue hijo de Martin de Sotomayor y Rodriguez (hijo de Martin Rodriguez, originario del Puerto de Santa Maria en Andalucia, y Juana de Soto y Borja, hija de Pedro y Beatriz) y Maria de Castrejon y Pacheco (hija de Antonio de Castrjon, regidor y teniente de alcalde mayor of Patzcuaro, y Leonor Pacheco). Tambien supongo que hay relación entre Isabel de Torres Hinojosa y el alcalde de Leon Juan de Torres Hinojosa (casado con Tomasa Barragan) y el provincial de la santa hermandad otro Juan de Torres Hinojosa (casado con Maria de Cisneros).

Tengo un poco más información sobre estas familias (líneas colaterales a las mías, etc.) pero esto es en general lo que he podido recoger. Alguien más desciende de estas familias?

-Richard

Some marriages in a Baptism parochial book of lagos

Hi, I´m only warning you that in the link bellow they are some pages (images form 186 to 191) that includes marriages, even though it is a Baptismal book. Maybe there you can find something.
Cheers.

Hola, solamente escribo para avisarles que en un libro de bautismos de Lagos de Moreno se incluyen unas páginas de matrimonios (imágenes 186 a 191), es posible que allí encuentren algo de sus antepasados.
Saludos.
Daniel Pedrero.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-K3N7-5?i=185&wc=3J8G-8…

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Inquisicion Mexicana: ALONSO MACIAS VALADES / LAGOS 1571

​Hola prim@s,​

More from the Santo Oficio de Mexico​. Here are my notes & links to 2 procesos involving Alonso Macias and other early residents of Lagos. I've only scanned through these and picked up some names, dates & locations; please feel free to read and add to the discussion.

The first is a proceso criminal contra Juan de Morales cc Leonor de Lara, vecinos de Mitique, por "palabras malsonantes," dated 06 Jun 1571 in Lagos. The judge is Alonso Macias Valades, who is also given the title, Teniente de Alcalde Mayor por Su Magestad (img164). Other names: Don Pedro Gobernador (I assume an indian cacique?), Hernando Martel Alcalde Mayor; Gaspar de la Mota Juez de Residencia; Diego de Rivera escribano nombrado; Miguel Loçano Presbitero/ Teocaltiche. Several Indians were called to testify, and the "naguatatos" are named. Thank you again, Alicia, for teaching us the meaning of this word!
Film # 007982935, img150
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-QSMP-3?cat=31792

The next one is the "Proceso criminal contra Padre Pedro Nuñez Villavicencio cura de Lagos por la supercheria de haver revestido con los ornamentos a dos hombres para decir misa cantada sin tener ordenes."

This proceso was referenced by Miguel Beltran in an earlier NR thread, found here 12 Apr 2012: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/20511#comment-23299

This one is an easter egg: beginning on 11 Sep 1571, appearing as witnesses are:
- Alonso Macias Valades, hijo de Pᵒ Macias Balades y de Ana Rᵒˢ vecinos de la Villanueva de Bancarrota, edad de cincuenta años poco mas o menos - b. ca 1521 (img16 left);
- Doña Mariana de Velasco 28 muger de Lorenço Padilla Davila hija de Pedro Pacho cc Ana de Temiño;
- Francisco Palacios, Lorenço Padilla Davila 40+, Gutierre Padilla 23, Juan Davalos 30, Gaspar de Tapia 60, Alonso Marin de Mendoza 30, Juan Çorita (mercader), Juan de Çayas (carpintero).

There are more testigos, and the procesos go on for pages; again, please feel free to read and add to the discussion.

Index: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-CPFW?cat=31792
Film # 007982910 : https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-QQJ2-9?i=6&cat=31…

Gracias y saludos!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

Ornelas and Gascon

Maria Del Refugio Ornelas was the daughter of Benito Ornelas (San Diego de Alejandria) and Ana Rita Del Carmen Gascon Barrera. Maria was married to Lugardo Fonceca and their children were born in the 1840's. Any assistance or connection would be welcome!

GOMEZ DE BEDOYA / ARIAS DE BEDOYA

Hola prim@s,

Juan Zurita Camacho and Geronima de Bedoya married 24 Aug 1623, in Patzcuaro, Michoacan; Juan Zurita (also Surita and Çorita) Camacho was from Albornos, Avila, Spain, son of Alonso Hernandez cc Ursula Jimenez; and Geronima de Bedoya.was daughter of Baltasar Gomez and Catalina Mz (Martinez). They baptized 3 children in Patzcuaro:

1. Nicolas Çorita Camacho Bedoya, b. 27 Jul 1624
2. Ursula Surita Camacho Bedoya, b. 02 Mar 1628, d. 19 Jan 1638
3. Juan Camacho Zurito Bedoya, b. 02 May 1632

Geronima de Bedoya died in Patzcuaro, on 11 Sep 1640. According to her acta, she was extremely poor and was given a paupers burial. Juan Zurita Camacho had been absent for about 4 years (1636).

Their oldest son, Nicolas, was sent off to San Felipe, Gto, when he was 8 years-old (1632), where he was raised by Joseph Calvillo (mayordomo de la Estancia de San Martin), and his wife, Magdalena Gomez. As an adult, Nicolas went by "Juan Gomez de Bedoya," and he married their daughter, Luisa Calvillo Gomez. From their son, Joseph Arias de Bedoya, would descend the families who used the Arias/Gomez de Bedoya surnames in that city. Luisa Calvillo died on 17 Dec 1655, in Aguascalientes.

I'm looking for info on Geronima de Bedoya and on her parents, Baltasar Gomez [de Bedoya] and Catalina Martinez: does anybody have anything on these individuals?

JUAN GOMEZ DE BEDOYA AND ANNA DE CARDENAS

This couple appears to be the source of the Gomez/Arias de Bedoya surname in early Zamora and Patzcuaro, Michoacan.

In his article, "GENEALOGIA DE ALGUNAS FAMILIAS ESTABLECIDAS EN PATZCUARO MICHOACÁN A PRINCIPIOS DEL SICLO XVII" (SomosPrimos, SEP 2001, Issue 9: http://www.somosprimos.com/spsep01.htm#MEXICO), Don Guillermo Padilla Origel gives the family group of Juan Gomez de Bedoya and Ana de Cardenas, but he gives no sources.

Among their children, he names Baltasar Gomez de Bedoya (aka Baltasar Gomez Catalan) cc Catalina Valdes, and he does mention that this couple had a daughter named "Jeronima." I have my doubts that this is the same Geronima de Bedoya who married Juan Zurita (who was born before 1609), as this Baltasar Gomez & Catalina Valdes were baptizing children, 1637-1645. They appear to be her contemporaries.

I also have doubts about some things in Don Guillermo's article, namely, he has Mari Gomez de Bedoya (cc Diego Mendes de Torres) and Maria de Bedoya (cc Clemente Perez) as the same person, which they weren't. They lived at the same time, one always going by "Mari Gomes" or "Maria Gomez de Bedoya," and the other, as "Maria de Bedoya." In fact, Mari Gomez and Diego Mendes were padrinos for Magdalena, daughter of Clemente Perez and Maria de Bedoya (!!!!). So, these two are either sisters, or cousins, and I still haven't found anything directly linking them to Juan Gomez de Bedoya and Anna de Cardenas, short of Anna de Cardenas appearing as madrina for a child of Diego Mendes and Mari Gomez. So I'm not looking at this article as a viable source.

Does anybody have anything on this family group? And how are Baltasar Gomez and Catalina Martinez linked to them? Any assistance would be appreciate!.
Gracias y saludos!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

Last Name Spelling Help Please

Hi everyone, any help would be appreciated. I have over 20 records from my 5th Great Grandmother Maria Paulina. Her last name is spelled so many different ways by the priest and scribers. Here are some examples( Sartica, Esatiga, Zartiga, Sastiga, Exartiga, Estatiga, Saxtiga, Exatiga and some gave up and just wrote Sanchez)Does anyone know what the correct spelling would be. Any help would be appreciated.
BTW
Maria Paulina was married to Manuel Salvador Roxas.I havent found their marriage record yet but they might have originated from Jalisco and definately settled in Amatlan de Jora, Nayarit.

Thanks
Ruben Rojas Delgado

Dispensa Question - Juan de Dios Baldivia and Petronila Alba / Pedro Baldivia and Gertrudis Alba

Hello,

I have a question about dispensas. The following marriage records (link below) show the marriage of two brothers with two sisters and it mentions that they had “un parentesco de 4to grado”, but that they had been dispensados. I would like to find these dispensas to get some further info from them.

I looked at the www.guadalajaradispensas.com website and I have not been able to find these dispensas. Is there any other place to look for them?
Or is it possible that if a marriage certificate says that someone has been dispensado, maybe that does not necessarily mean that an actual separate written dispensa was always created?

Here is the link for the marriages:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-K795-6Q?i=149&wc=3JDW-…

I am looking for the following dispensas:
--Pedro de Baldivia married Juana Gertrudis de Alba
--Juan de Dios Baldivia married Petronila Juana de Alba

Both marriages took place on May 28, 1714 in Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco. The parents of Pedro and Juan de Dios Baldivia were Juan Valdivia and Petrona Gutierrez de Hermosillo.
I am trying to find the dispensas to find out the ancestry of the Alba sisters.

Thanks,
Minerva

Missing son of Lamberto de Alba & Librada

My grand father Pedro de Alba (christianed as Jose Pedro) wrote a book of his early years in San Juan de los Lagos, and states that he had a younger brother named "Pablo" (could be Jose Pablo, following church customs) and I can´t find any record of his birth. Only thing I can find is his marriage with Maria Josefa Padilla Gonzalez on the 19 July of 1910 in San Juan.
Being younger, he had to be born after 1886 (date of birth of Pedro), Pablo was a shoemaker and actually showed up as "testigo" in one marriage (can't remember which one right now).
Up to now, I have as children of Lamberto Alba & Librada Perez, the following:
Jose Timoteo, 24/Jan/1882. SJ de los L        (Jose Salvador, 29/Feb/1886. SJ de los L       (220.673)Jose Pedro, 17/Dec/1886. SJ de los L            (220.675)Juliana de la Cruz, 19/Jun/1891. SJ de los L  (220.677)Maria Catalina de los Dolores, 1/May/1894.    (220.678)Jose Leon de Guadalupe, 11/Apr/1899.           (220.680)Francisca Engracia, 3/Apr/1901.                      (220.681)Maria Camila de Guadalupe, 15/Jul/1904.        (220.682).
If anyone can give a clue as to where to search, I would greatly appreciate it.

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Vicente Ferrer Lomelin and Ysabel Rodriguez de Frias

Hello promos,

Does anyone know the ancestors of:

Antonio Lomelin son of _____bisente___ferrer______Lomelin + Isabel Rodriguez de Frias

Maria Josefa Hija de Joseph Gerardo Rodriguez + Maria Marsala de ruvalcaba

Name: Visente Ferrel De Lomelin
Spouse's Name: Ysabel Rodrigs.
Event Date: 12 Feb 1736
Event Place: Nochistlan,Zacatecas,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60625-7 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number:226726

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15184-34474-0?cc=1804458&wc=…

Vicente Ferrer De Lomelin
mentioned in the record of Lucia Petronila Lomelin Rodrigues
Name: Vicente Ferrer De Lomelin
gender:
Male
Wife: Ysabel Rodrigues De Frias
Daughter: Lucia Petronila Lomelin Rodrigues
Other information in the record of Lucia Petronila Lomelin Rodrigues
from Mexico Baptisms
Name: Lucia Petronila Lomelin Rodrigues
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 04 Jan 1750
Christening Place: NOCHISTLAN,ZACATECAS,MEXICO
Father's Name: Vicente Ferrer De Lomelin
Mother's Name: Ysabel Rodrigues De Frias

Thanks,

RA Ricci

Another common ancestral link to the British Royal Family and Nueva Galicia

Another common ancestral link to the British Royal Family and Nueva Galicia.

I just found an ancestral branch of my family from clicking on the latest news in England about Meghan Markle and Prince Harry. The girlfriend of a British politician made some very ugly racist remarks about Meghan and her pending marriage to Prince Henry. The uproar from these racist commons created a strong backlash, where evidence was submitted showing one of Prince Harry’s ancestral lines.

To make a long story short, it turns out that one of Prince Harry’s ancestral grandmothers (queen Charlotte) descended from a black (mulatto) Portuguese ancestor. Prince Harry’s ancestor is also an ancestor of mine. I had no idea as to this black ancestral line until now. I had this common ancestors parents and grandparents in my records but no further. Prince Henry’s ancestral records show the line going back many more generations to Africa. You just never know when you are going to get lucky and find such a treasure trove. It was only because the girlfriend of the politician had made her racist remarks that this lineage was brought to my attention. For those that would dispute this line, of which there are many, I am not relying on the work of Mario de Valdes y Cocom. Although Mario de Valdes y Cocom claims to have made this discovery, it was actually discovered previously by a group of genealogists who actually show evidence that she descends from this common ancestor six times. Though the fifteen generations are far back, the descent from six generations does make at least a very small imprint if you look at the paintings of her by Sir Allan Ramsay, and by a physical description of her by her physician, Baron Christian Friedrich Stockmar, “a true mulatto face”.

Rick A. Ricci