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I'm having trouble understanding a Civil Registration of a birth. This record is from Guanajuato, Mexico. The troublesome phrase regarding the father of the child who has come in to register the birth: casado cannonicamente y soltero segun la ley and the daughter is listed as , hija natural, and the mother is not named. I think I read the record correctly. In this child's baptism record she is listed as the legitimate child of the named parents. This couple had 2 earlier children, baptised in the same church and listed as legitimate children. Neither of the other two children's births were registered with the State.
Thank you, Gloria

Hello all.
Firstly, I want to thank those that have helped, and are helping me trace my ancestry, and who have given me many tips.

I wanted to ask: Since coming here, and to the Nueva Galicia Society and Ancestrydna.com, I have noticed some really heated and also hostile behavior between people, and heard names called, and seen some less than what I had assumed was professional behavior. Questions:

1: If one person does some research, and another person references or uses it directly is there a reason that would create bad blood?

2: I have heard researchers call one another "Plagiarists". This would suggest ownership of research. I would have thought that sharing research about a person's family line, would be a good thing. Am I wrong? are there negative things that can comer from this?

I have seen in several forums, people ignore pleas for help, and assistance, and then harshly criticize the person who was asking for help, railing against them for some error in their research or methodology.

Just wondering what the social lay of the land is here, and wondering what is going on with all the heated words, and hard feelings. I really didn't expect that.

Thanks for your time and patience.

Piero
Rookie researcher.

One of the biggest questions that my family has always had about our family that came from Mexico is possibly a question that will never be answered. My great-grandmother Pascuala Aceves, and two of her siblings, Maria Romula Aceves and Bernardo (Fernando) Aceves, all left Mexico and went to California by early 1877. We believe that either they all came together, or Maria Romula came first and they followed. Pascuala’s children (our grandmothers and their siblings), are the ones that passed on the story. We heard that Pascuala and Fernando had gone to mass, and when they returned they learned that their mother, Maria Juana Lopez Cuebas had been killed by banditos. She was a shopkeeper and a seamstress. We heard that Pascuala and Fernando left the area shortly after that.
We have been unable to find any death records for Maria Juana Lopez Cuebas, and this is what we would most like to find.
Manuel Asebes was Maria Juana’s husband and the father of her children. They were married in Sayula, and all the children were born in Sayula.
The story says that Maria Juana left Manuel because he failed to support the children. She moved, but we don’t know where to. The family always said she was from Guadalajara.
The story said she then married an alcalde, but we don’t have a name.
The children were: Agustina, b 1843, married a German soldier. Her children were born in Mexico City so perhaps they all went there; Maria Clara, b 1845, died at about 18. No death record found; Atilano, b 1847, died young. No death record found; Jose Eucebio, b 1850. Have no idea about him; Maria Romula, b 1852, married a Frenchman and went to California; Pascuala, b 1854, married an Englishman and went to California; Bernardo (Fernando), b 1856. Went to California. Heard that he left San Francisco after the 1906 earthquake and went back to Mexico. I have found no information either way.
If anyone has any ideas I would love to hear them. Again, what we most want to know is if the story of Maria Juana Lopez Cuebas is true.
Thank you,
Rayna Babette Allen

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2016-10-25 20:50 GMT+02:00 :

> You are quite lucky to have someone in the family who saved all those
> wonderful items of your families past. I noticed the red miners hats. I
> love
> those kinds of pictures. No one in my family really put things together of
> their families and it has been difficult but rewarding to get a picture of
> my
> great grandmother and her shawl still in its box only because I asked the
> person who inherited her house while no one had cared to find out in the
> family. If you read some of the history of the European Royalty who
> intermarried so much that it created deformities, crazy (Juana la Loca) and
> sterility among other stuff. Back to your family the Contreras, There are
> many players now many of them with dispensas that has help put a tighter
> timeframe. L5B5-95V is the locator on www.familysearch.com for Jose
> Christobal de Contreras, it can be search by ID or Name added to your
> family
> already on Familysearch. I added what was in the dispensas put it needs
> your
> familiarity to put all together. I have a theory of the aguilera vs.
> Contreras, I believe she had the baby before they married. I say this only
> because they seem to use the name Aguilera forward while they don't mention
> Aguilera nor refer to her as married only that Maria Contreras is mother. ​
>

[Nuestros Ranchos] Contreras y Briseno

1. About Ysabel Garcia de Contreras
1.1 It is possible that Garcia was used as a second given name, not as
first surname.
Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garc%C3%ADa_(surname)
"García was a very common first name in early medieval Spain."
1.2 I found an example in 'FamilySearch' web page
Father: Jn. Garzia De Contreras
Mother: Elena Franca
Son: Jn. Contreras
(folow this link)
1.3 Then, if the theory is true, Xtobal de Contreras did not inherit the
given name Garcia

2. Why 'Xtobal de Contreras' did not take his father surname?

2.1 It could be because he was an illegitimate child, but you say that
'Ysabel Garcia
De Contreras has a *legitimate* son ...' Why are you so sure of that?

2.2 In my experience, in the records of baptism no surnames are assigned
to the child. Instead the priest uses the phrase "I baptized a child who
was born x days ago and I named it Xtobal. He (She) is legitimate son of
[parent's names and surnames]". If you are lucky, the record you are
looking at has the names and surnames of the grandparents.

2.3 Before 1800, most people only used one surname, which was usually the
father's surname, although there were exceptions where some people decided
to use the mother's surname, or in very minority, other family's surname.

2.4 From the nineteenth century in Spain and Spanish America it was
imposed, first as use and later as standard in various administrative,
legal, military fields, among others, the double surname.

2.5 Today, the official rule in Mexico is father's first surname +mother's
first surname.

Best regards

2016-10-22 17:01 GMT-05:00 :

My name is Cathy Tagliabue. I am from the Houston, Texas area. I am researching my Mother's biological father Pablo Montano from Juanacatlin, Jalisco, Mexico. In the 1930's my Mother's biological parents worked for a hospital in Waco, TX. Pablo and his brother Hilarion would cross into the US for work and they roomed together. Pablo worked there for at least a decade.

I need some assistance. After looking on Ancestry.com there are 2 or 3 Pablo's that could be her Father and I need help finding a document that has both Pablo and Hilarion on it. I also found a border crossing for Hilarion that states his father is Jesus. Any advice or suggestions are welcomed. Pablo was suppose to be an older man. I found a border crossing for a Pablo Montano where he crosses into Waco, TX. and shows his birth-year as 1897.

I also had DNA testing through Ancestry.com for my ethnic makeup and it shows that I am 11% Native American. I am hoping I can also find out more about that.

I was a banker and a stay at home Mom. I've been battling cancer the last couple of years. This is my Mom's dream to find out more about her biological father.
My dear sweet Mother passed away 16 years ago.

Thank you.
Cathy

Hello everyone.
MY name is Piero Ornelas, and I am tracing my family's surname to, and before it was present in San De Los Lagos. (Referred to after this, as "SJDLL) The relatives I am positive about are as follows.
This is my first attempt at this research, and I am concerned that with one mistake, I may get everything before my great grandfather wrong, and I have heard that there are several "Ornelas" families in SJDLL, who were all related. If you have any information or corrections I would welcome them! thanks!
I am very interested in if this nis true that much of our Surname is actually Portuguese and not Spanish of origin. I was surprised!
Any help or clarifications great appreciated! Thanks!

My line:

My Father, Ralph Ornelas, d.1962

My grandfather, Mario Ornelas born San Juan de los lagos
b. January 19, 1909. d. march 27, 2004, in Monterey Park, California, at the age of 95.

My great-grandfather, Apolinar Ornelas
b. around 1880, In or near San Juan De Los lagos, (baptized on July 29, 1877 in SJDLL)

My Great-Great grabdfather Florencio Ornelas
b. 1872 in Manuel Ojinaga, Chihuahua

My Great-great-great grandfather Bernardo Ornelas baptized on February 17, 1722, in SJDLL

My Great-great-great-great Grandmother Dorotea De Ornelas
born about 1695, in SJDLL

My Great-great-great-great-great grandfather Andres De Ornelas
b. 1636 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco,

My great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather, Alvaro VI Albares de Ornellas y Hurtado de Mendosa
b. 1598 in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico

My great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather Alvaro V Albares deOrnellas
b. 1561, in Canico, Ihlas Madeiras, Portugal

my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great--great grandfather, Joao De Ornelas
b. 1530 in Caniço, Madeira, Portugal.

Could someone tell me what city or town I will find Christening records for people born in El Tule, Aguascalientes in 1892-1900? I searched in Asiento's records, but I could not find them even thou I have an exact birth place (El Tule), and birth date. I am looking for my grandfather Miguel Reyes and his sister Anastasia. He married my grandmother - Reynald Rangel from Matamoros. I found both their crossover papers listing place of birth and also my grandfather's army registration document at the public library listing a birth date. Thank you.

Estimado Guillermo:

Soy pariente de los López de Peralta por varias líneas, pero no descendiente que yo sepa todavia pero la posibilidad existe. Los enlaces que las familias formaron en la ciudad de México formaron una red muy distinto a cuanto la sociedad novohispano. Es muy posible que si puedo conectar ellos pero necesiataría seguir comprobado mi línea Leonel de Cervantes, donde seguramente vendrá sorpresas.

Como mencioné anteriormente la tatarabuela de mi abuelo Martín Méndez de Torres era María de Jesús Leonel de Cervantes o Gómez de Cervantes. Este apellido realmente me causa gran estrés porque eran simulateanous Cervantes o cualquier variación. Esta fue bautizada el 13 de septiembre de 1807 en San Francisco de Tepatitlán. Hija de Rosalino Leonel de Cervantes o Gómez de Cervantes bautizado 14 de septiembre de 1784 en San Miguel el Alto casó el 23 de mayo de 1808 en San Francisco de Tepatitlán a María Josefa Gómez Hurtado de Mendoza, de aqui desciendo del reconocido “El Amo” Aceves.

Gracias a varios dispensas que encontré y varios que proporcionaron miembros del foro, especficamente Jorge Ramirez Gomez y Martha Flores, podía extender la línea donde termina Joseph Leonel de Cervantes o Cervantes quien casó a Isabel Sánchez Carranza hacia 1675, estos radicaron a Guadadalajara. Sospecho que este era de la ciudad de México ya que debería nacer a los mediados del siglo XVII casi los “principios” del floricimiento de esta familia en el DF.

Tuvieron otro Joseph Leonel de Cervantes quien radicó a San Juan de los Lagos y a Cristóbal Gómez de Cervantes quien radicó a Tepatitlán. Seguramente se puede encontrar descendencia ahí hoy en día.

Casi abondoné esta línea para ahora, estoy muy ocupado con mi línea agnaticia los Méndez de Torres ya tengo la documentación irrefutable. Pero seria una linea importantisma para mi familia a cuanto probarla. Mandé pedir desde España en PARES el testamento de mi antepasado por tes líneas diferentes, Diego Méndez de Torres, Alcalde Ordinario y Regidor de Zamora, Michoacán. Conti Rubini y yo tenemos nuestros sospechos diferentes sobre los Mendez de Torres, una cosa es seguro que si son portugeses, ojalá el testamento menciona sus padres. Quisiera saber si era del DF or Portugal. La cuestion es encontrar como es de Portugal, si Diego era del DF y su padre de Portugal? No se.

Si gustas podíamos analizar e intercambiar nuestras notas y archivos a cuanto los López de Peralta. Tuvieron su escudo de armas

Como seguramente lo tienes, empezó Jerónimo López Cabrera bautizado en el Sagrario de Asunción el 21 de abril de 1537 casó hacia 1567 a Ana Carrillo de Peralta, nieta del II marqués de Falces y IX conde de Santiestabn de Lerín. Aquí procede los López de Peralta. Jerónimo López Cabrera y Ana Carrillo de Peralta fundaron un mayorazgo, tengo nota que era Tesorero Real y Regidor donde en 1605 renuncia el oficio en nombre de su hijo Jerónimo López de Peralta, quien sería el II Mayorazgo me pongo poco confuso aquí pero ya para 1619 el mayorazgo está en nombre en su hermano Francisco López de Peralta en 1619 donde levanta información y pide a las cortes en Madrid para dejarle vender “algunos de sus bienes de su mayorazgo.”

La sucesion del mayorazgo de Lopez de Peralta es muy interesante ya que entra en varias redes familiares de la sociedad, muy chistozo, hasta que entre a la Casa de Santiago de Calimaya. La genealogia a la vista del X conde de Santiago ni tiene nada que ver con los Lopez de Peralta, pero no me recuerdo pero pienso que el mayorazgo entro por medio de los Urrutia de Vergara, necesito revisar de nuevo mi base de datos.

Como siempre mis saludos,

Daniel Méndez Camino

MEJIA fam (del Sauz de los Marquez, Sta Ma)
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Domingo Mejia & Ma Gertrudis (Rita?) Rios (hija de J Gregorio del Muro Macias (Nov, 1784, Sta Ma) & Ma Demetria Marquez Ortega (Dec 27, 1784, Sta Ma) ) hijo:
1) Casimiro Mejia Rios (oo) & Ma Demetria del Muro Marquez. Hijos:
1 1) Decideria Mejia del Muro (in 1823 in Sauz de los Márquez, Jal)(oo Jul 2 1847, Colotlan, Jal) (oo) & J. Margarito Marquez Marquez (Jun 9 1822, Sta Ma)
1 1 1) Felix Marquez Mejia (oo) & Luz Villalobos Guzman
1 1 1 1) Ma Sostenes Marquez Villalobos ( Dec 9 1882, Sta Ma)
1 1 2) Filomena Marquez Mejia (oo ) & Basilio Villalobos Guzman)
1 1 2 1) Julian Villalobos Mejia ( Jan 15 1886, StaMa)
1 1 3) J Sacramento Marquez Mejia ( Nov 28 1850 Sta Ma, Jal.
1 1 4) Dionisio Marquez Mejia (Apr 7 1854 Sta Ma, Jal.)(oo) & Ricarda Barcenas Huizar
1 1 4 1) Cruz Marquez Barcenas (Sep 14 1881, Sta Ma)
1 2) Jose de Jesus Mejia Muro ( Dec 23, 1824, in Sauz de los Márquez, Jal.)
1 3) J Marcos Mejia Muro (Apr 30 1830, Sta Ma, Jal) (oo ) & Salvadora Villegas Urquiano hijo:
1 3 1) J. Francisco Mejia Villegas ( Jan 29 1856, Sta Ma)
1 4) Ma Ysabel Mejia Muro (Jul 1832– Sauz de los Márquez, Jal)
1 5) Gabriel Mejia Muro (Mar 17, 1835– Sta Ma, Jal., Mex.) (oo ) & ¿? hijo
1 5 1) Miguel Mejia ¿? & ¿? hijo
1 5 1 1) David Mejia & ¿? hijo
1 5 1 1 1) Miguel Mejia (Aug 12 1941 & + Jun 12 1970) (oo ) & Marian Georgia Garcia (Nov 17 1942 ) (hija de Ernest Michael Garcia & ¿?) hijo
1 5 1 1 1 1) Richard Mejia (Garcia )
1 6) J Marcelo Mejia Muro ( Feb 18, 1837– Sauz de los Marquez, Sta Ma.Jal)
1 7) Crescencio Mejia Muro (Jan 9 1843– Sauz de los Márquez, Sta Ma Jal)
1 8) Crisanta Mejia Muro (oo ) & J Mateo Marquez Enciso (Oct 28, 1845 , Sta Ma) hijos
1 8 1) Ma Pascuala Marquez Mejia (Apr 10, 1869– in Sauz de los Márquez, Sta Ma, Jal
1 8 2) Felipe Marquez Mejia (May 1, 1870, Sauz de los Márquez, Sta Ma,Jal)
1 8 3) Lucia Marquez Mejia Jun 24, 1875, Sauz de los Márquez, Jal) (oo) & Felix (Feliciano Marquez Galvez
1 8 3 1) J Dimas Marquez Marquez (oo) & Gregoria Cortez Sandoval
1 8 3 2) Elpidio Marquez Marquez (1899)
1 8 3 3) Ma de los Angeles Marquez Marquez (1905) (oo ) & Julian del Muro Proa (1898)
1 8 3 3 1) Reynaldo del Muro Marquez (+ 2011) & Aurelia Castañeda Martinez
1 8 3 3 1 1) Patricia del Muro Castañeda (vive en Colotlan, Jal.)
1 8 3 3 2) Felipe del Muro Marquez (+2009)
1 8 3 3 3) Antonio del Muro Marquez (Jul 19, 1928, ) (oo) & Felipa Garcia Rodriguez (Sep 11 1931) hija
1 8 3 4) Andres Marquez Marquez (1908)
1 8 4) Ygnacio Marquez Mejia ( July 30, 1877– Sauz de los Márquez, Sta Ma, Jal.)
1 8 5) Victoriana Marquez Mejia 1878– Sauz de los Márquez, Sta Ma., Jal) (oo ) & Francisco Betancourt Escobedo (1874, Sta Ma)
1 8 6) Nicolasa Marquez Mejia (Sep 10 1884– Sta Ma, Jal)
1 8 7) Francisco Marquez Mejia (Jul 21, 1886– Sauz de los Márquez, Jal)
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Does anyone know where Mesquite de Charco is located?

I have been looking for this family for a long time and recently found their marriage record 6 March 1803. The following is their IM

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GGLV-T7Y

Jose Tomas Rodriguez (B:1776 in Camarillo, Mesquite de Charco) and Maria Dorothea Contreras en Los Contreras, Mesquite de Charco (1783)

I have seen this name before but can't remember if it was in Zacatecas, or San Luis Potosi. Los Contreras, I have seen this some time ago and can't remember where and I've looked through some records of the contreras and can't find the location. two of their children were born in Lagunillas, but the records are missing or illegible another was born in las Vuidas, I believe in that is in Asientos, Aguascalientes.

Thanks for your help!!

Has anyone used a local genealogist to obtain records at the government
archives in Guadalajara? There are multiple documents at the Biblioteca
Pública "Juan José Arreola" at the Universidad de Guadalajara but I'm
unable to visit in person to review them. I would like to find someone who
can get access to the Registro de Archivo Civil and hopefully make
copies/take high quality pictures and email them to me. If you know of
anyone who can do this for reasonable compensation, can you share their
information with me?

Busco alquien que puede obtener los registros en archivos en Guadalajara por
que yo no puedo ir en person. Hay varios documentos en la Biblioteca
Pública "Juan José Arreola" de la Universidad de Guadalajara (Registro de
Archivo Civil). Busco una person hacer copias / tomar imágenes de alta
calidad y enviarlas por correo electrónico. Conocen alquien que puede hacer
esto de una compensación razonable?

Gracias--Arturo

Hi I thought I'd share this with you guys. A while back, I found the death certificate of my Great Great Great Great grandmother, Guadalupe Camacho. According to the record, at the time of her death, she was 115 years old. In all my years of searching through the records at Family Search, I've never seen something this incredible. Now I know most records back that recorded ages were usually somewhere around 1-5 years off but even if this is the case, that's still pretty old. Unfortunately, I dont have a marriage or baptism record to back up this claim. Also her last born child was back in 1847 which would have made her 64 at the time. There are several cases of women being able to give birth at such an advance age.

Here's the record.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPF9-K9T?i=57&wc=MGDF-16T%…

Hello, does anyone have any information on Ignacio López de Elizalde & Maria Cano? I have hit a road block. I know that they were both born sometime between the 1660s - 1670s and for some reason I cannot recall I have their place of birth as Aguacalientes. I tried finding where I got that information but for the life of me cannot retrieve it. I have seen some other people state his parents as Nicolas López de Elizalde y Luevana and Juana de Ortega y Bonilla although I don't want to just add parents without proper documentation. Any help will be appreciated!

Thanks,
Vanessa

Hola a todos!!!!

Después de algunos años de haber dejado en pausa; estoy retomando mi investigación. Pero tengo algunas dudas con las que espero puedan ayudarme.

Dentro de mi investigación genealógica aparece el nombre de Diego González Vega o Diego González de Hermosillo, en algunos sitios encontré información en la que se menciona que era Mayordomo de La reina Juana I de Castilla mejor conocida como "Juana La Loca". me gustaría saber si esto es cierto y si ustedes tienen mas información al respecto o algo más de historia sobre este personaje.

También tengo otra duda, Diego Gonzalez de Hermosillo tuvo entre sus hijos a Francisco Gutiérrez Rubio; mi duda es en que momento y porque adquiere el apellido GUTIÉRREZ????

De antemano Muchas Gracias y Saludos a Todos.

Does anyone have ALESSANDRO VITELA's email address?

ALESSANDRO VITELA was once a member of nuestrosranchos.orgmunity.

In 2009, ALESSANDRO VITELA had asked for help in finding the parents of Encarnacion Cervantes and Maria Nasaria Navarro.

It wasn't until yesterday when I was looking for members that have Cervantes in their lineage that I reviewed his request and did another search for us information.

I found the information but this morning I checked to see if ALESSANDRO VITELA was still a member of nuestrosranchos. He left our group in 2013. Does anyone have anyway of contacting him so that I may be able to pass on this information?

This is the information that he had asked me for:

"Jose Encarnacion Cervantes is the son of Juan Agustin Cervantes. I am not sure but believe that the name of his mother is Maria del Carmen (Carmel) Santa Cruz.

Maria Nasaria Navarro Napoles is the daughter of Juan Joseph Navarro and Juana Maria Napoles. She was baptized on 8/August/1779.

Maria Nasaria's brother, Jose Antonio Navarro and his wife Maria Feliciana Barragan are the godparents to one of Nazaria's sons."

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

Hi Everyone,
Here's the dispensation record for Diego de Estrada II and Sebastiana Montaño dated 1724.

This doc shows the link between the Estradas, Cortez, Montaños, Gomez de Espejo, and Ruiz de Velasco.

From their union, you get the Muños de la Barba and Gutierrez connection.
Diego de Estrada and Sebastiana Montaño's (1708-1753) children, two that I have verified, were:

Luisa Rosalia de Estrada m.1756 to Luis Antonio Muños de la Barba (Juan Muños de la Barba & Juana Hernandez)

Nicolas de Estrada m.1753 María Magdalena Gutierrez (Lucas Gutierrez & Manuela Delgado)

Hope this helps.

Joe

I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this person or persons.
There are several marriage entries in "Asuncion, Mexico, Distrito Federal, Mexico" with the name "Antonio de Nava y Estrada" as a groom. One has the inclusion of "Cano" as a surname. The marriage entry dates are 1643, 1654, 1659. *see pics

Can anyone shed some light on this person(s).

Thanks,
Joe

Hola, yo me llamo Martha Gomez y tengo a la mayoria de mis antepasaso en tepatitlan jalisco. y son Gutierrez , Navarro , Aceves, Hernandez, Rubio.Ybarra, Gonzalez,

asi que yo pienso que tu y yo tenemos antepasados en comun si quieres mandame un poquito de tus antepasados para ver si los tenemos en comun ok?

I am including this email both to the group and to you. The
nuestrosranchos.org group is absolutely FREE. I have never asked anyone
to submit 14 generations and sometimes I've accepted as few as 1
generation for those that are new to genealogy. I don't know if there
are individuals in the group studying exactly these lines but I'll know
in a few days as the messages circulate among the members. I've not
considered a person for membership based on the trade system you are
proposing. Of course there are individuals in the group that probably
thought the same thoughts you are verbally expressing. If anyone in the
group replies I'll certainly put you in contact with those individuals
if they request to communicate with you, but I'll need to think about
your request for membership as your terms have activated my concern
related to "what is best for the group".

I'll let you know.

joseph

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Joseph,

I meant to ask you if this is going to come down to making payments for
information. I hope not since I am willing to share my research on the
condition that they lay open theirs for me to see. As I told you
before, I have 14 generations of research on my father's side to share
but on an equal basis. Of most importance is the research on the
Villasenor/Cervantes y Lara ancestral line. If they have nothing on
this then I may have to reconsider because what I will make know has
been researched for many years by the Micheles of Jalisco under the
leadership Padre Salvadore Michel of Guadalajara a descendent of Pedro
Regalado Michel Corona. When you speak to the researchers ask them if
they can assist me with research on Villasenor/Cervantes y Lara
ancestral line which connects with Perez de Alencastre line that
connects with the Micheles of Tonaya and beyond. It is at this juncture
of my research, Villasenor/Cervantes y Lara that I am stymied and would
like to move on if possible. If they can help with this I am willing to
help them as well

Sincerely,

Juan Andres Michel

Hi,
Is any one out here researching the Delgadillo's of Aguatinta, Lo De Carrera, Nochistlán, Mechoacanejo y Teocaltiche? Or can Help us locate missing information?

Several of my distant cousins and I who have Family trees have been Stuck for a long time now on Francisco Delgadillo and Anna María Ruiz; born circa 1745. Non of their kids records contain information of their grandparents, nor have we been able to find the Marriage Records for Francisco and Anna Ma. There are a couple of Franciscos born around the time in Teocaltiche but I do not know if it is one of them or not at all. Does any one have any information that can help us or suggestions?
Thanks,
SIS

Can someone please tell me if this church is Presbyterian? I can't read Spanish, and I have a lot of marriages and baptismal records for my family. I also need to know what the name of the Presbyterian in Union de San Antonio also. Thank you for your help.

Hola primos! I'm a new member here, and I'm really excited to share my discoveries and learn from all of you. My name's Eduardo and I live in San Jose, California. I have been researching my family history for about 15 years, but I only just recently moved into my Mexican lines after discovering the fantastic indexes over at Familysearch.com.

I try to be very careful about what makes it into my tree. If I don't have solid support for something, I'll hold off until the evidence gets better.

I can speak/read/write both in English and Spanish. But I was raised in the U.S., so English comes to me more naturally. I'm one half Mexican. My mother is from Guadalajara and was the only one of 11 kids raised in her family to leave Mexico. Most of my aunts and uncles have died off, so I feel that my base, my connection with family and to the real Mexico is fading. I am sad about that. I wish it weren't so.

I'm a lawyer by training (but I don't practice law), so I tend to be precise, analytical, skeptical, etc. Anyway, I'll try to post relevant stuff and be helpful. Let me know if there is something I can do for you!

Oh, Joseph Puentes said I should put this link in my introduction: eduardo1966
(Did I do that right?)

Kind regards,

Eduardo Fisher
eduardo1966

You can use family finder for free.

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I recently let my Ancestry.com subscription lapse because of the cost and a lack of relevant new databases there. I've pretty much tapped out that site over the years.

But Ancestry.mx seems to have transcriptions of Familysearch.com Mexican records that are not transcribed on Familysearch. I checked the price for a subscription at Ancestry.mx, and it is about half what it costs for Ancestry.com.

Has anybody tried and been successful at subscribing to Ancestry.mx from a US-based IP address? Is so, were you able to subscribe with your ID from Ancestry.com?

If Ancestry.mx permits this, I'm ready to give it a go.