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Alicia,

Can you please tell me where I can get or borrow a copy of Nochistlan de Zacatecas by Evelia Clotilde Quirarte?

I have ancestors from the Mazapil/Nochistlan area. I am looking for information about the settlers of the hacienda de San Juan, later called de Ahorcados because the local Indians attacked the settlers and hung them all. I am looking for Monico or Jose Monico Barron, born in said hacienda about 1761 and his wife Justa or Rufina or Justa Rufina Candelaria possible surname Paredes, born possibly in the same place about 1764.

I am also looking for any books about Mazapil in the 1700s. The hacienda de San Juan de Ahorcados or simply Ahorcados, was destroyed about 1771+- and rebuilt about 1776+-.

TIA for any information you can assist me with.

Elvira

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Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 22:37:44 -0700
From: Danny Alonso
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I had a question about the science site with the Mayan, Huichol and Nahua
mixtures but my question is not very clear. I know that some of my
ancestors were from the Caxcan tribe headed by the Mendoza's and I don't
know what happened to the Caxcan people, maybe they disappeared or maybe
they just mixed with the Spanish people like Chief Blas de Mendoza. but
does anyone know how that DNA is researched? are they part of the Mayan,
Huichol or NAhuas or have they just disappeared? so as an example say that
all my indigenous ancestors were Caxcan people from Teocaltiche and since
I don't see the Caxcan tribe listed as one of the tribes of the Native
Mexicans on the admixture picture, would my Caxcan DNA be reclassified
under another tribe or would it be redistributed among several different
tribes or just not be listed

Danny C. Alonso

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Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 11:12:41 -0500
From: Juan Aguayo
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Danny,

Check out the following posts my prima Alicia made on Nuestros Ranchos a
few years back. I've attached them here because the Tachiquin last name is
most likely a Caxcan last name that still survives today. As far as I know
there are still some Tachiquin families in el barrio de San Sebastian in
Nochistlan, not far from Teocaltiche. I'm not sure how much of European and
other DNAs have been mixed into this family over the years. My DNA has
Caxcan DNA as most if not all of the people with ancestry in this part of
Mexico does. The Caxcanes have been mixed in with European, African, Middle
Eastern, Asian DNA's present in this part of Mexico. This is the mestisaje
that makes us Mexican. I'm not aware of any pure Caxcan people living
today, but the Tachiquin elders are probably the closest we can get to pure
Caxcan DNA. Years ago Family Tree DNA listed my indigenous DNA as Mayan,
but today it's just listed as Native American most likely because they know
there are distinct and different indigenous DNA throughout Mexico. Mayans
are quite a bit farther south in Mexico so I'm pretty sure Caxcanes are not
Mayan. Based on some quick research, there are some sites stating the
Caxcan are part of the Uto-Aztecan family as are the aztecas, huicholes,
zacatecos, nahuas and matlatzincas. Since DNA research in Mexico is in its
infancy so to speak, more refined markers identifying Caxcan DNA are not
available as far as I know. Maybe that will change with the work of Dr.
Carlos Bustamante at Stanford University.

Saludos,

Juan Aguayo

See past post below:

Lisa,

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Could someone tell me the name of the paternal granparents are for
Anastasia de la Luz Maese. its the 3rd one down on the left

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6FNN-WS

Danny C. Alonso

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Could someone tell me what the name of the maternal grandmother of Lina Oviedo is on this record:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6DM9-XR6

Danny C. Alonso

I've been unable to access the GEDCOM section here in Nuestros Ranchos.

This is the message that pops up:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function session_register() in /home/lafamilia/nuestrosranchos.org/gedcom/globallib.php on line 5

Does the moderator know about this problem?

Joseph de Leon

Alguien que me ayude con los datos del Cronista de Sayula, Jalisco

I have just posted in my Dropbox account several handwritten pages of selected extractions of the earliest Pinos parish baptism entries. This rough draft was meant to be a quick reference guide, so I only listed the year, child, father, mother and godparents. I have not proofread them. Later this year I hope to provide more Pinos data which will include the actual dates. In the interim this may help someone.

There are six pages, but somehow page 2 was missed. I'll let you know when it gets posted. Also, page 5 is very faint. Will try to correct it, but don't want to hold this up.

Mary Lou Montagna

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yop1j3tqornd0xh/AABnVNtOvuDJtcuW0Gk5vgBHa?or…

Diego Joseph Reynoso resided in Juchipila in 1743, originally of Jalostotitlan,
and likely the same Diego Reynoso baptised in San Juan de los Lagos in 1716,
parents listed were Sancho Reynoso and Juana Garsia de Hermosillo.

Link:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-16087-16513-26?cc=1804458

Mezquital del Oro, Nuestra Señora del Rosario,
Información matrimonial 1734-1873, image 684 of 718
Key info:
Diego Joseph Reynoso the son of Sancho Reynoso and Juana Garsia
Maria de Jesus Delgadillo the daughter of Phelipe Delgadillo and
Petronila Flores de la Torre.
Diego Joseph Reynoso was age 27(born circa 1716), born in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.
Maria de Jesus Delgadillo was age 22(born circa 1721), born in Juchipila, Zacatecas.

Following up and branching off from Nuestros Ranchos thread http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18719?page=1

I thought this merited FRONT PAGE NEWS.

In that thread, Sr. Alex Mercado said he "just stumbled upon a marriage record for a Francisco Gutierrez married to a Juana Lomelin https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-1165-18?cc=1874591&wc=…

He said he was finding a lot of Guadalajara marriage records in this set 1640's - mid 1650's, which indeed there are and none which are searchable on FamilySearch.org.

In fact let me just re-post these last couple entries of the above mentioned thread

Thank you very much for sharing.
__________________________

Wonderful job Luigi (aka Alex Mercado)...WOW!!!!

You indeed found the marriage of Francisco Gutiérrez Rubio y Hermosillo and Juana de Lomelín, ancestors to many of us!!! I am stunned...jaw on the floor.

I verified the date, 21 Nov 1652, and it fits. Records indicate that Francisco Gutiérrez Rubio y Hermosillo and Juana de Lomelín began having children right around 1651-1652. We will have to re-calculate the ages of their children in light of this very concrete marriage date, 21 November 1652.

Francisco Gutiérrez Rubio y Hermosillo and Juana de Lomelín - 21 Noviembre 1652, Guadalajara

"Fran.co gutiéres, doña Ju.a Lomelín ----- En veinte y vno de noviembre de Sinqu.ta y dos su señoría Yllustríssima desposó y veló, a Fran.co gutiérres Y a doña Juana Lomelí Y assistí Yo al dicho oficio, testigos don Fran.co rincón Y don manuel gallardo. . . . Fran.co Gallegos (rúbrica) Sacristán m.or "

Fuente: Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, 1590-1979, Guadalajara, Sagrario Metropolitano, Defunciones 1641-1730 [Image 67 of 733]

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-1165-18?cc=1874591&wc=…

I immediately began to transcribe it, copy the source, download the image, and insert the data and image in my family tree. Unfortunately, literally no valuable data can be gleaned from the meager record. It does not mention where they were from or even the fact that Juana was the widow of Rodrigo de Carbajal. Nothing!

Then I searched this marriage document in FamilySearch.org and nothing. So the marriages located amongst these burials are not on the FamilySearch database. We're going to have to go fishing.

Muchas muchas gracias
Tu primo Paco
Steven Francisco Hernández Gamiño y López de los Reyes

Juchipila/Moyahua Reynoso families,

Christobal de Reynoso has been proven to be the son of Diego Reynoso and Juana Lozano.

A 16 May 1741 marriage information document from Mezquital del Oro provided the
following:

Christobal de Reynoso, 20 years of age (born circa 1721), originally of Juchipila,
widow of Gertrudis Flores de la Torre, was the son of Don Diego de Reynoso y de
Juana Lozano.

Anna Maria Rubalcaba, 15 years of age (born circa 1726), originally of Teocaltiche,
was the daughter of Antonio Gonsales de Rubalcaba and Maria Ximenes (both deceased).

Link to this document;
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15212-19282-45?cc=1804458
Mezquital del Oro, Nuestra Señora del Rosario, Información matrimonial,
1741-1746, 1760-1766, 1780-1782, images 508-511 of 635

Note: Family branches of Christobal Reynoso/Juana Lozano used the Renteria
portion of the surname in whole or part; leaving no doubt that Christobal
Reynoso is the son of Diego Reynoso who married Margarita Renteria.

Alguien me podria decir si existe algun pueblo de la nueva españa donde mi tatatarabuelo realizo su testamento antes de morir por 1649 y no entiendo el porque lo realizo en ese lugar si el en esa epoca vivia en Tepechitlan.

El pueblo de "haciela" es lo que busco.

Gracias

A 1817 Moyahua marriage dispensation of Manuela Reynoso and Calixtro Ocampo has lineage that proves at least one Reynoso branch back back to Diego Reynoso Padilla-Davila (born 1634)and Margartia Renteria. This is lengthy, and links included.

1st-
Proof of Diego Reynoso y Reynoso and Margarita Renteria as the parents Joseph "Jose"
Reynoso y Renteria: (via 1714 marriage dispensation from Cuquio Parish)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18403-13038-56?cc=1874591
Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, Guadalajara Diócesis de Guadalajara
Matrimonios 1653-1829, (1714), Images 391-400 of 625.
Marriage of Joseph Reynoso y Renteria to Maria Juana Sanches de Porras
Grooms parents Diego Reynoso y Padilla and Margarita Renteria

2nd-
Proof of Joseph Reynoso y Renteria / Maria Juana Sanches de Porras as the
parents of Joseph Antonio Reynoso y Renteria
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18414-33319-89?cc=1874591
Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, Jalostotitlán Nuestra Señora de la Asunción
Matrimonios 1707-1748; image 443 of 557. (Actual Marriage Record)
Marriage of Juan Joseph Reynoso y Renteria to Maria Theresa Gonsales de Hermosillo
1741 - marriage record proved that Juan Joseph Reynoso was the son of Joseph Reynoso and Maria Juana Sanches-Porras.

3rd-
Jalostotitlan Marriage of Juan Joseph Reynoso to Theresa Gonsales de Hermosillo
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18447-313-91?cc=1874591
Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, 1590-1979 Jalostotitlán Nuestra Señora de la Asunción Matrimonios 1707-1748; image 443 of 557.
Links Juan Joseph Reynoso y Renteria to parents Joseph Reynoso y Renteria and Juana
Sanches de Porrras.

4th-connection to Juchipila from Cuquio/Jalostotitlan.
Proof of Juan Joseph Reynoso is through his brother Juan Antonio Eugenio, as follows:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18414-33319-89?cc=1874591
1759-1760 Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, Guadalajara Diócesis de Guadalajara
Matrimonios 1754-1760, images 448-564
(This ia a lengthy dispensation record, starting 26 March 1759 and ending 29 August 1760)
1759 - Record pertinent to this person:
Image 449 - Juan Joseph Reynoso listed as father of Juan Antonio Reynoso.
Image 449 - Maria Theresa Gonsales (Gonsales abbreviated Gonr) listed as mother of Juan Antonio Reynoso.
Image 449 - Juan Antonio Reynoso listed as of Contitlan (Zacatecas, Mexico), parish Jurisdiction Juchipila.
Image 455 - Joseph Antonio Reynoso is brother in law of Maria Magdalena Campos.
Image 455 - Joseph Antonio Reynoso was married to Rita de Campos
Image 455 - Mother of both Rita de Campos and Magdalena de Campos was Generee de Borayo.
Image 455 - Pedro Gerardo Placencia - of Contitan (Juchipila)

5th-connection of Campos and Reynoso families in Moyahua, with Joseph Antonio Reynoso y Renteria identified as well as Rita Campos.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-31174-2740-99?cc=1937239
Dispensas matrimoniales 1817, images 3486-3504 of 5729
(Family Trees on images 3490, 3491, 3492 and 3493)
24 August 1817 Moyahua Marriage dispensation of Manuela Reynoso & Calixto Ocampo
Note: This marriage dispensation resolves many Reynoso family lineages.
Key info:
Calixto Ocampo stated he was the son of Ygnacio Ocampo and Maria Figenia
Carrillo, his age 21 (birth year circa 1797), originally of Ranchos de Contitlan,
Juchipila Parish (Moyahua parish after 1807), Zacatecas, Mexico.
Manuela Reynoso stated that she was the daughter of Francisco Reynoso and Maria
Dionisia de Luna, her age 16 (birth year circa 1801), originally of Ranchos de Contitlan,
Juchipila Parish (Moyahua parish after 1807), Zacatecas, Mexico.
The bride/groom were distantly related in common by the Carrillo, Ocampo, and Luna
families as follows:
Carrillo family:
Pedro Carrillo was the father of Mariana Carrillo(married to Jose Manuel de Luna), who
was the mother of Jose de Luna(married to Juana Arambulo), who was the father of
Dionisia de Luna(Married to Francisco Reynoso), who was the mother of Manuela
Reynoso (bride).
Pedro Carrillo was also the father of Diego Carrillo(married to Gerarda de Luna), who
was the father of Eugenia Carrillo(married to Ygnacio Ocampo), who was the mother
of Calixtro Ocampo (groom).
Ocampo family:
Alejandro Ocampo was the father Maria Rita Ocampo(married to Jose Antonio Reynoso),
who was the mother of Alejandro Reynoso(married to Xabiera Plasencia), who was the
father of Francisco Reynoso(married to Dionisia de Luna), who was the father of Maria
Manuela Reynoso (bride).
Alejandro Ocampo was also the father of Magdalena Ocampo, who was the mother of
Ygnacio de Ocampo(married to Eugenia Carrillo), who was the father of Calixtro
Ocampo (groom).
Luna family:
Jose de Luna was the father Jose Manuel de Luna(married to Mariana Carrillo), who was
the father of Jose de Luna(married to Juana Arambulo), who was the father of Dionicia
de Luna(married to Francisco Reynoso), who was the mother of Manuela Reynoso (bride).
Jose de Luna was also the father of Gerarda de Luna(married to Diego Carrillo), who was
the mother of Eugenia Carillo(married to Ygnacio Ocampo), who was the mother of
Calistro Ocampo (groom).

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Does anyone know who the parents of Maria de Escoto are who's married to
Miguel Gonzales de Rubalcaba? she's probably born aroun 1700 or a
little earlier maybe

Danny C. Alonso

Hello my name is Rosario Tiscareño. I am very happy to be part of this group. My paternal family is from Aguascalientes. My great grandfather was Encarnación Tiscareño married to Ma Natividad Tirado. My grandfather was Julio Tiscareño though I have come across his name spelled Julian . He was married to Natalia Rodriguez. My father was José Ines Tiscareño. I hope to be able contribute to this site and learn more as I go. Thank you .

Hello - My name is Brian Alejandro Sandoval, and I've always been interested in learning more about my family's history, but only recently got serious after having my DNA analyzed through 23andMe.com and learning about the various geographical influences on my DNA.

I would love to hear from you if you have done research for the Jalpa, Zacatecas area, and especially if the last names
Sandoval, Ortega, Minjares, Gonzalez, Muñoz, Quezada
Aguayo, Salazar
Chavez, Aldana, Huerta, Valenzuela
Lopez, Perez

have been a part of your research!

In the time I've begun researching my family's history, I've made most progress on detailing my dad's side of of the family. Though, both my mom and dad are from the same area: Jalpa, Zacatecas, which will hopefully make my research easier.

I begin my research in the small rancho - La Pitahaya (sometimes spelled Pitaya) near Jalpa, Zacatecas, Mexico where both my parents grew up.

My paternal grandfather, Juan Sandoval Ortega, died in La Pitahaya in 2004, he was born in the nearby Rancho el Huayavo to Graciano Sandoval and Maria Guadalupe Ortega. In turn, Graciano is the son of Procopio Sandoval and Emelenciana Minjares. Maria Guadalupe Ortega was the son of Macario Ortega and Cayetana Gonzalez. I gathered that information from Juan's birth notice in the Jalpa register for 1920.

I did a quick search of my great great grandparents, and find a baptismal record and then birth notice of Macario Ortega and Cayetana Gonzalez baptizing a child in nearby Apozol, Zacatecas: Jesus Ortega, born Sept 12, 1894, and baptized Sept 16. These documents said his paternal grandparents were Prudencio Ortega and Secundina Muñoz. Cayetana's parents were Juan Gonzalez and Ramona Quezada.

My paternal grandmother Maria de la Luz Aguayo (1926-2001) was born to David Aguayo Quezada (1899-1983) and Maria Salazar Valenzuela (deceased). I found David Aguayo's death certificate, which listed his parents as Santos Aguayo and Ramona Quezada.

My maternal line is much less researched - my grandparents, Fernando Chavez Aldana and Maria Lopez Perez, also died in La Pitahaya, Jalpa, Zacatecas. My mom's oral history is better for Fernando's lineage - he was the son of Margarito Chavez Salazar (~1901-1992) and Maria Aldana Huerta (1905-1979). Margarito was the son of Fernando Chavez and Clara Salazar.

Maria Lopez Perez was born in el Zapote, near Jalpa, Zacatecas, and was the daughter of Casimiro Lopez and Santos Perez.

My research has been somewhat hampered by the lack of records in Jalpa Zacatecas. My dad recalls there was a fire at the Jalpa archives, which explains the lack of documentation. Though in the same story, he explains how his uncle was unable to get his birth certificate in Jalpa because of the fire, but was able to obtain some documentation in the capital, Zacatecas.

I look forward to working with you and contributing to this group, and was glad to find a like-minded community online.

Thanks!

Can someone tell me the last name of the mother of Da Benigna Macias
Valadez who married Eusebio de Esparza

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-691S-G16

Danny C. Alonso

Can someone tell me if the parents are named on this information matrimonial for Phelipe Martines and Francisca Xaviera Duron. I cant read the IMs very well

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYM7-NJJ

Danny C. Alonso

Does anyone know any iformation about the Francisco Prieto Gallardo that was married to Juana Ruiz de Esparza. he would probly be born about 1655 in Aguascalientes. Juana Ruiz de Esparza also goes by Juana Esparza.

Danny C. Alonso

I am trying to publish a video with resources for Family History for all Spanish Surnames. The Video will focus on Zambrano but it will give the charters and Family history of most Surnames or give you great resources.

Spanish surnames in this work are:

Mendoza, Haro, Lopes, Ximenes, Vela, etc.

http://www.spanishfamilyhistory.myevent.com/

The guy that will make the video will charge me 500 USD the web page ask for 600 because the web page charges fees. This is no scam anyone who pre-orders video will be listed in the charter within the book as part of the credits as listed on the web page. Thanks

I Hope all of you are doing well. I need members assistance with my MEDINA line.

I have reached a dead-end on any further back that JUAN JOSE MEDINA and YSIDRA LUNA. Both born around 1800 and the last family was known to be in Juchipila, Zac.

Their son was MARCELINO MEDINA married to FRANCISCA GARCIA. Anyone who share that line or have run across them please let me know by posting what ever info you have.

It would be deeply appreciated

Yvonne Medina

This is difficult for me to read, especially the names. Can anyone help me? Thank you.

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From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 3:33 PM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos May 2016

http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2016/spmay16/spmay16.htm
TABLE OF CONTENTS
May 2016 notification letter:

Dear Friends and Family:

With so much emotion attached to this presidential election year, it was with the mission of unity and peace that a National Prayer meeting was held in Washington, D.C..

The front page photo of the May issue of Somos Primos is of a National Prayer meeting, organized by Lewis and Rachel Hogan who founded United Cry in 2014. Their goal,“a national movement of pastors and Christian leaders dedicated to reclaiming America’s future.”

The day started out rain-drenched and freezing cold on Saturday April 9th, but thousands gathered with pastors and Christian leaders at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C. to pray for our nation in a “solemn assembly” of unity. Attendees included many ethnicities, including African-American, Caucasian, Asian, Native American and Hispanic, with prayers in both English and Spanish. [US section]

In addition to reclaiming the future for our children and grandchildren, Somos Primos wants to preserve the heroism and contributions of our grandparents. Wanda Garcia and I thank all those who contacted the Corpus Christi City officials concerning the ruinous condition of the Dr. Hector P. Garcia Clinic site. Your action certainly helped. A fine was placed against those responsible for allowing the building to fall into such disarray. Well known columnist Joe Lopez is recommending further action which can and should be taken in support of identifying the Garcia Clinic site as an important Historic Civil Rights site.
[Texas section]

Maybe it is because of the growing ferocity of the Islamic attacks on Israel, why I continue to receive many articles on the history of Israel, revealing the unusual personal and unexpected historic events in which Jewish lives have been saved. Many times their rescues came by the heroic efforts of one or a small group of individuals. Over and over it appears that individuals are moved to fulfill the biblical prophesies that Israel will always exist. [5 articles in the Sephardic section].

At the April 9th National Prayer meeting, Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn said, “As long as God lives, there is hope, the light will overcome the darkness.” As we learn our history, and share our shared history with others, we bring forth light and understanding.

God bless America, Mimi

TABLE OF CONTENTS
UNITED STATES
Christians Occupy Washington in "Sacred Assembly"
Free course on the U.S. Constitution being offered online by Hillsdale College We the People of the U.S.A.
Children of GIANT Panel Discussion held at April 5th at the University of Texas, San Marcos May 6-7: Bexar County Tricentennial Symposium, “Spain's Encounter with the New World Many Truths Constitute the Past: The Legacy of the U.S.-Mexican War The Truth about the University of Texas Massacre by Dan Arellano Professor Rudy Acuña Receives John Hope Franklin Award Ruben Alvarez Washington DC Bound!
61 million immigrants and their American-born young children now live in the United States.
Inadmissible Aliens, 1952 Law
News of a minimum wage hike deal in California is met with relief -- and anxious arithmetic Low Apprehensions of Mexican Immigrants by Ana Gonzalez-Barrera How Mexican immigrants ended 'separate but equal' in California by Philippa Strum Lorenzo A. Ramirez Statue and the Mendez Case TAMACC is proud to announce the 2016 Women of Distinction!
Ideology/ Practice of Empire: U.S./ Mexico, Education of Mexican Immigrants by Gilbert G. Gonzalez

HERITAGE PROJECTS
SPAR, the Spanish Presence in Americas Roots California The Forgotten Spanish Treasure by Robin Collins Sister Maria de Ágreda, the Lady in Blue and the founding of the Texas Missions by Joe Lopez
Film: Texas Before the ÁlamoHISTORIC TIDBITS Sobre la leyenda negra anti-española Las Inquisiciones Catolica y Protestantes, Examen Comparativo On This Day
Lopez: Gregorio Cortez, the "one-man" gang

HISPANIC LEADERS
Dreamers Celebrated Marco Antonio Firebaugh's 10th Anniversary of his Passing Ralph Romero and the Thermal Boxing Club Medal of Honor Recipient, Santiago Erevia passed away March 22, 2016 Officer Ramiro Martinez: The 50th Anniversary of the UT Tower Massacre Memorial in Honor of Dr. Hubert J. Miller Jean Carter Young Fish, Historian

AMERICAN PATRIOTS
Food City Commercial
DD-214s are NOW Online
Congratulations to the 65th Infantry Regiment "Borinqueneers"
Veterans Honoring U.S. military fatalities in Iraq, now to recognize fatalities of Afghanistan war A good history reminder, 1945 Naval Armada

EARLY LATINO PATRIOTS
Resource for qualifying for the Sons of the American Revolution A Tale of Three Treaties: The Story That Changed the World

SURNAMES
Patrick Henry and the Tejano Connections, of special interest to John Inclan and Editor Mimi

DNA
Shocking DNA Results

FAMILY HISTORY
Looking Ahead: September 15-17th, 2016, SHHAR Trip to Salt Lake Find a Grave, FREE membership LANIC, phone number lookup tool Dig Deeper into Land Records by Kimberly Powell Ancestry pedigree: Guerra Trevino Hernandez of South Texas

Katy and Deedra,

I want to thank you both. Deedra for posting a while back about an Ordenes
document that she found, which led me to find one of my lines which I long
suspected was a descendant of Francisco Suarez de Ybarra. The baptismal
record was missing and I would've never found it except for this document.
Thank you for posting about it Deedra. Katy and Claudia's work with the
Guadalajara Dispensas have been an invaluable work for me and many others.
I had been wanting to thank you both for some time, but this post was a
good reminder that it was long overdue.

By the way, I made a presentation to the Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society
and cited both Katy and Claudia's Dispensa Indexes. The PowerPoint is
available on our website at: http://www.nuevagalicia.org in the Research
Links & Resources page. Thank you both and keep up the good work!

Maria Cortez

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> Katy, I, and I'm sure many others, have benefitted enormously from your
> efforts to index the Dispensas, Capallanas, and Ordenes. Daily I check to
> see
> if you've made any new posts and it feels like Christmas when you have.
> I've
> been able to find entries that have helped my research from nearly each
> posting. I understand that school and "life" are priorities, but I also
> want
> to tell you how much I appreciate your work. Thank you, Deedra Corona
>

Hola a todos:

Sigo comprobando y checando mis líneas y me encuentro con esta, cuyo linaje de los Monroy Pizarro ya fue comentada en el foro de Beltrán de la Cueva y Tomasina de Velasco. El problema es que no sé bien como descinde de García de Monroy y Catalina Pizarro que tuvieron por hijo a Francisco de Monroy Pizarro casado con Doña Aldonza de Castro.

Mis antepasados de los que no he podido seguir la línea son Don Diego de Bejarano y Doña María Pizarro o Monroy que tuvieron por hija a Mariana bautizada en Sayula el 1 de Enero de 1671 y casada con Don Juan de Rivera. Ellos tuvieron a Sebastiana Gertrudis de Rivera y Bejarano casada con Jacinto de Villalvazo y Sánchez.

Espero alguien pueda darme la conexión, gracias de antemano.
Enrique Agraz

Dear Emilie,

A while back you wrote:

"Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jewish evidence in Los Altos

"Genetic evidence" and evidence you "have read" is like comparing apples and oranges. People used to adopt surnames as was convenient for various reasons especially to gain money and position.

My husband, who is descended from Altenos (the Albas, Cervantes, Ruis de Esparza, Rubalcabas, etc.) has no illusions about his ancestry either in Mexico or going back to Spain.

He just showed me this paragraph from one of his books about the admixture of cultures in Spain over the centuries: "Christian families with more pedigree than cash, or with a prudent respect for ability accepted them [Jews] in marriage. ..In this way the Spanish people, especially the upper classes, received a substantial infusion of Jewish blood. Ferdinand the Catholic and Torquemada the Inquisitor had Jews in their ancestry. Pope Paul IV, at war with Phillip II, called him and the Spanish 'worthless seed of the Jews and Moors'".

I know that the rest of Europe looked askance at Spaniards and Portuguese as not being Europeans. Wasn't there a dust-up about allowing them into the EU?

So, it seems to me that the Spaniards are as mongrel a race as mestizos are now considered, and they always were. Neither Spaniards in the Old World or the New World were "pure" anything.

Emilie

Port Orchard, WA"

Your words were right on target as to one of your ancestors. The upperclass Cervantes have a line of descent from a very rich Jewish man who married his family into Families with more pedigree but much less cash than him. While looking to find the link between the Sanchez / Golluf and Isaac Ha Levi, who is said to be theire first cousin, I found that Isaac Ha Levi is your ancestor through your Cervantes line. This Isaac Ha Levi is from the house of David according to records.

Rick A. Ricci

The email I received from Nuestros Ranchos looks like the below.
How do I change this difficult to read format?
Thanks,
Ken Alva

Send Research mailing list submissions to research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nuestrosranchos.org/listinfo.cgi/research-nuestrosranchos… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org You can reach the person managing the list at research-owner@lists.nuestrosranchos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Research digest..." Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List DAILY DIGEST **************************************** Today's Topics: 1. How To Search By Record ID (Joseph Puentes) 2. Re: De LA Cerda (Danny Alonso) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:25:48 -0400 From: "Joseph Puentes" To: Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] How To Search By Record ID Message-ID: <016901d19f41$6b77f7d0$4267e770$@rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 1) Create an account on https://familysearch.org/ 2) Log in 3) Hover over Family Tree at the top left 4) go down to Person and select 5) click on the Down Arrow next to "person" and an ID box will be available for you to input the record ID 6) Click on the arrow Joseph ========================= Joseph PuentesClean@h2opodcast.com http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html > -----Original Message----- > From: Research [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On > Behalf Of raynababette@cox.net > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 4:02 PM > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Need help reading this 1792 marriage record > > sarod77, I'm not familiar with how to search by record ID. As a matter > of fact, I don't even see a record ID on the records I'm looking at. > Thanks for your help! > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List > > To post, send email to: > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org > > To change your subscription, log on to: > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 06:33:03 -0700 From: Danny Alonso To: research@nuestrosranchos.org Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] De LA Cerda Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I have lots of de la Cerdas in my ancestry. how far back have you gone? here's some of the de la Cerdas on the Wikitree. http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/L%C3%B3pez_de_la_Cerda-6 Danny C. Alonso On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 11:02 PM, wrote: > Hi, I am researching De La Cerda, from Sierra De Pinos, Zacatecas. Ursula > De > La Cerda Contreras. For some reason after 25 or more years of research I > just > in the past few days was able to greatly expand my Zacatecas, San > LuisPotosi > and Aguascalientes lines. > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List > > To post, send email to: > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org > > To change your subscription, log on to: > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List To post, send email to: research(at)nuestrosranchos.org To change your subscription, log on to: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org ------------------------------ End of Research Digest, Vol 123, Issue 17 *****************************************