Family tree poster showing familial relationship of Mexican presidents

A few years ago there was a poster showing that some ex-presidents of Mexico were related to each other was posted on the Internet.
Does anyone have the link or know where I can get this information?

I just discovered that i share an ancestor with an exmexican president and I would like to revisit that information to find out if I have more ancestral connections to Mexican Presidents. The connection that I found was through our common ancestor Diego Ochoa Garibai. Does anyone know of any other exmexican president related to the people from los altos de Jalisco?

Thanks,
R.A. Ricci

Durango Birth Record

Would someone please let me know if you recognize or are able to make out the paternal's grandmother's surname of the upper right corner birth listing on the attachment for Andres Amado Reyes? The grandfather's name is Julio Reyes (listed as Rogers) and his wife is Maria A__?____.

Thank you,

Cynthia

El Potrerillo, San Miguel el Alto Jalisco donde se encuentra en un mapa actual?

Buen dia
Mi nombre es Jesus Ramirez .
Me honra que me hayan aceptado como usuario miembro de la comunidad de Nuestros Ranchos y desde 2012 he dedicado un buen tiempo a la investigación genealógica de los apellidos Ramirez,Mena, Reynoso, Padilla, Gonzalez entre muchos otros que he encontrado.
Al mismo tiempo he intentado localizar pueblos que existieron en los siglos pasados y muchos aun aparecen en la geografía actual.
Estoy un poco confundido acerca del poblado "EL POTRERILLO" de donde provienen muchos de mis ancestros que aun no tengo la certeza de su situacion geografica actual o si ya no exista.
Agradeceria si alguien pudiera compartir alguna información que seria valiosisima.

Atentamente.
Jesus Ramirez.

Francisco de Reynoso

A quien esté interesado en el estudio de los Reynoso:

Estimados Señores,

Amén de lo ya comentado en el Archivo de la Biblioteca "Juan José Arreola" me gustaría mencionar que a principios de este año tuve la fortuna y el gusto de localizar el apellido materno del genearca de esta familia en la Nueva Galicia, precisamente en ese archivo:

"Ante el señor Capitán Alcalde Francisco de Reynoso Rico, presentó Miguel Agundes, a nombre de Don Cristóbal Torres, la constancia de que no puede aceptar el cargo de Oidor en Santiago de Guatemala."

Ramo: Bienes Difuntos.
Año: 1652
Caja: 227
Expediente 1, 13 fojas. Lugar: Guadalajara.
Biblioteca Pública del Estado de Jalisco. Juan José Arreola.

La fecha coincide con el periodo en el que el Capitán Francisco de Reynoso (N. ca. 1587) fue Alcalde Ordinario de Primer Voto en Guadalajara (1652).

No obstante de contar ya con varios datos positivos respecto a los Señores de Mazuecos, la ascendencia del Perulero aún debo documentarla de manera sólida y generación por generación. De esta forma me gustaría hacerla llegar a los miembros del foro.

Esperando que esta información les sea de utilidad reciban un cordial saludo y quedo a sus órdenes.

Erik Andrés Reynoso.

El Potrerillo, San Miguel el Alto Jalisco donde se encuentra en un mapa actual?

Buen dia
Mi nombre es Jesus Ramirez .
Me honra que me hayan aceptado como usuario miembro de la comunidad de Nuestros Ranchos y desde 2012 he dedicado un buen tiempo a la investigación genealógica de los apellidos Ramirez,Mena, Reynoso, Padilla, Gonzalez entre muchos otros que he encontrado.
Al mismo tiempo he intentado localizar pueblos que existieron en los siglos pasados y muchos aun aparecen en la geografía actual.
Estoy un poco confundido acerca del poblado "EL POTRERILLO" de donde provienen muchos de mis ancestros que aun no tengo la certeza de su situacion geografica actual o si ya no exista.
Agradeceria si alguien pudiera compartir alguna información que seria valiosisima.

Atentamente.
Jesus Ramirez.

Discrepancias con algunos historiadores sobre la familia Rincón de Ortega y Rincón Gallardo.

He leído que algunos historiadores mencionan que Francisco Rincón tuvo dos familias. Con una mujer desconocido tuvo por hijo a Juan Rincón de Vibar; y con María de Ortega tuvo a Agustín y a Pedro Rincón de Ortega.

El problema es que yo encontré que en el acta de matrimonio de Juan Rincón de Vibar con Catalina Pérez de Aguirre se menciona que Juan Rincón de Vibar es hijo de Francisco Rincón de Vibar y María de Ortega. Entonces mi duda es ¿Porqué algunos historiadores mencionan que es hijo de otro matrimonio? y lo mencionan como medio hermano de Agustín y Pedro.

Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.

Antonio Macias Valades and Rita Gertrudis Baes

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

i'm wondering if anyone has information about the parents of my ancestors Antonio Macias Valades and Rita Gertrudis Baes. It says their parents are Salvador Macias Valades and Rosa Maria Macias and Cristobal Baes and Maria de las Niebes Paz. I found the death of Rosa Maria Macias and she doesnt have parents but i don't have anything on Cristobal Baes and Maria de las Niebes Paz or Salvador Macias valades.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DCDS-J2D

Danny C. Alonso

General Digest, Vol 122, Issue 1

My son's DNA is being done by ancestry. His father is Mexican. (I did my DNA and there is no indigenous...purely European). Not sure how I'd have his DNA registered as you mention below.Is it possible for you to email me?kllink@telus.net

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From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 3:02 PM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos March 2016

Please cut and paste: http://somosprimos.com/sp2016/spmar16/spmar16.htm

Dear Friends and Primos:

With so much talk about the importance of the Hispanic/Latino vote in the upcoming election, our presence still seems to be somewhat invisible, historically and currently.

There are several articles on that subject under United States.  Also, on the subject of invisibility, don't miss, the two articles, El
Vaquero: Missing in US History written by Joe Lopez.

The heritage project, The Spanish Presence in Americas Roots, SPAR is moving forward. I am serving as CEO, Co-chaired by Judge Edward Butler.
We will soon have a website in place.  We are trying to prove the historic presence of our antepasados in the history of the United States and the Americas.

Have you had your DNA done?  Do you have indigenous markers?  SPAR would love to hear from you. My maternal mitochondrial DNA is indigenous, plus I also have indigenous lines on my paternal side.  SPAR  would like to prove that we with southwestern Mexican heritage are living proof that the early history and foundation of the United States was  formed primarily by families of mixed southern Europeans and indigenous heritage.

SPAR welcomes interest, support, and involvement of any nature, a paragraph, a sentence, or a family story which emphasizes the fact of your mixed heritage would be very welcomed.  If you have questions, comments,  please email or call me:  Thank you for caring that our story be told.

Warmly, Mimi Lozano
mimilozano@aol.com
714-894-8161.

Somos Primos MARCH 2016 Table of Contents UNITED STATES Estados Unidos le debe todo a España Smithsonian Omits Hispanics In U.S. History Exhibit by Miguel Perez Smithsonian Internships Available for Latino Museum Specialization The Missing Hispanic in the U.S. Census Count by Felipe de Ortego y Gasca
Cartoon: Difference between Latino and Hispanic by Terry Blas"
Latinos in Hollywood: New Study Finds, Few Roles, Frequent Stereotypes

Boy Turns TV Winnings into Funds for Mariachi Program Beckman High student, Andrea Lopez, perfect AP score Spanish, one of 55 worldwide Where Are the Minority Professors? by Ben Myers
Storycorps: True to Their Words, students perform play of parents/ grandparents experiences The Latino Guide to Creating Family Histories by Dr. Julian Nava View from the Pier by Herman Sillas

Bittersweet Harvest: The Bracero Program 1942-1964 Tras Años De Espera Mariachi opera about 1950s labor camp in Oxnard, California is a big hit by Alicia Doyle Salinas hope to turn farm workers' children into computer scientists by Geoffrey Mohan, Proyecta 100,000 to Expand Economic Opportunities for U.S. and Mexican Citizens
        by Felipe de Orgego y Gasca
A Plan' to help SAVE Dr. Hector P. Garcia Center February 17th, 1929 -- LULAC founded

San Bernardino, California County Board of Supervisor official wants to Arm county workers Oklahoma Legalizes Arming Teachers and Staff on School Campuses States Renew Push for Guns in Schools More states allowing armed school staff University of California, Irvine's Black Student Union asks to abolish campus police Homeland Security produces first estimate of foreign visitors to U.S.
who overstay deadline to leave

Retonos de Espana en al Nueva Galicia

The Hispanic Heritage Project has several copies available of Mariano
Gonzalez-Leal’s “Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia.” If you are
interested in the nine- volume collection you may contact me at:
cmyturralde@gmail.com .We also have
completed imaging and posting online at our website, hh-p.org the Fondo
Colonial of the Parral Archive.Thank you for your support.Carlos Yturralde

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Familias Michel Ordonez y San Martin en Jalisco.

Para los siguientes miembros de Nuestros Ranchos; Felipe Michel, Jorge Michel, Roberto Michel y Julie Fernandez. En el ano 1519 con la llegada de Hernan Cortez a la conquista de Tenochtitlan llego entre ellos Don Diego de San Martin. El aparece en los Archivos Generales de Indias. Se catagoriza originario del norte de Espana por hablar un idioma Portuges o Gallego que son similares. Manda traer de Espana a su hijo Juan Michel Ordonez, hijo de Elvira Ordonez y Diego San Martin. En el ano 1529 sale en expedicion Nuno Beltran de Guzman a conquistar Jalisco. Entre ellos Juan Michel como caballero jinete del ejercito. Toma parte en varios combates y batallas para pacificar la region. Juan Michel esta en la Guerra del Mixton y en la fundacion de la primer Guadalajara, cerca de lo que hoy es Nochistlan, Zacatecas. En 1564 el Rey Felipe II otorga a Juan Michel escudo de armas, aparece en el Cedulario Heraldico de Conquistadores #107. Juan Michel Ordonez caso con Catalina Mena viuda de Fran. de la Mota, pero no tuvieron hijos varones. Juan Michel fue Alcalde regidor de Guad. en 1564. Juan Michel tuvo un hermano menor llamado Cristobal de Ordonez, hijo de mismos padres. Cristobal estuvo presente en la fundacion de la primer Guad. que despues mudaron al valle de Atemajac cerca de Tonala.El Franciscano Fray Antonio Tello en su libro "Cronica miscelanea de la santa provincia de Xalisco"1655 y el autor Matias de la Mota Padilla en su libro "HIstoria del reino de la Nueva Galicia en la America Septentrional"1742 nos relatan estos hechos. Cristobal de Ordonez caso con Francisca Ruizfarache 1568 y el fue Alcalde en Villa Purificacion 1569. Cristobal de Ordonez tuvo varios hijos, Francisco, Gabriel, Bartolome, Josefa, Agustina y Juan II Michel Ordonez Ruizfarache en honor a su hermano el conquistador. Este Juan II Michel Ordonez caso con Graciana Corona y tuvo hijos que fueron Esteban, Bartolome y Juan Francisco Michel Ordonez y Corona, nacio 1609 y caso con Luisa de Guzman.Sus hijos fueron Lucas, Antonio y Tomas Michel Ordonez y Guzman que nacio 1670 y se caso con Agustina de Vargas. Su hijo Fran. Michel Ordonez Escobar nacio abril 1694 en San Juan Amula Jal. y se caso con Manuela Lopez Bueso. Sus hijos Feliciano y Antonio y Tomas Michel Ordonez Lopez Bueso, este nacio 1732 en la Hacienda de Coatlan, Jal. y caso con Juana Uribe Covarrubias.
Su hijo Faustino Michel Uribe nacio 1761 y caso con Maria Estefana Gonzalez Monroy. Un hijo de ellos se llamo Jose Guadalupe Michel Gonz. nacio en Tenango, Jal. 1789 y caso en segundas nupcias con Bacilia Santana. Su hijo Fran. Michel Santana nacio En Tuxcacuesco, Jal. 1832 y caso con Evarista Santana 1852. Sus hijos Andres, Cecilio, Ignacio,Savina, Silvestre y Leandro Michel Santana que nacio 1868 San Juan Amula, Jal. y caso con Maria Flores. Sus hijos Ignacia, Cruz, Rafaela, Martin, Angel y Antonio que nacio 1900 en La Cienega, Jal. y caso con Inez Bautista, que fueron mis abuelos paternales.
Esta es mi rama por el lado Michel y cualquier de ustedes pueden conectar su rama a la mia en alguna generacion.

Juan Joseph de Llanos y Valdes- Jerez

Hola,

Acabo de encontrar informacion parala dispensa matrimonial de Juan Joseph de Llanos y Valdes casado con Marcela (Marcelina) Ramos, viudo de Juana de Silva. En esta dispensa matrimonial Juan Joseph declaro que era de la ciudad de Madrid, en los Reinos de Castilla, y sus padres eran Phelipe de LLanos y Valdes y Angela de Agilera (Aguilera?). En dicha dispensa matrimonial tambien (de acuerdo con la declaracion de la madre de Marcelina Ramos-Estefania Ramos), se puede establecer sin duda alguna que JUANA DE SILVA NO ES JUANA DE AVILA. No se si es posible la existencia de dos Juan Joseph de llanos y Valdes? Uno de ellos casado con Marcelina Ramos y Juana de Silva, y el otro casado con Juana de Avila (de este matrimonio hay mucha descendencia). He visto en algunos arboles en linea que aseguran que el padre de Juan Joseph es Juan de Llanos y Valdes y Maria Diaz de Comparan, cual es la fuente documental que establecio dicha relacion? Es posible tambien que Juan Joseph haya sido casado tres veces y que la informacion sobre Juan de Llanos de Valdes y Maria Diaz de Comparan es erronea. La dispensa matrimonial es bastante clara.

saludos,

susana

Hello everyone,

I just found the marriage information for marriage dispensation from Juan Joseph de Llanos and Marcela (Marcellina) Ramos, widower of Juana de Silva. In this marriage dispensation Juan Joseph declared that he was from the city of Madrid, in the Kingdoms of Castile, and his parents were Felipe de LLanos y Valdes and Angela Agilera (Aguilera?). In this document , according to the declaration of the mother of Marcelina Ramos- Estefania Ramos, establishes without doubt that JUANA DE SILVA IS NOT JUANA DE AVILA. Is it possible the existence of two Juan Joseph Llanos y Valdes? One of them married to Marcelina Ramos and Juana de Silva, the other married Juana de Avila (this marriage there are many offspring). I've seen in some trees online that have the father of Juan Joseph is Juan de Llanos y Valdes and Maria Diaz de Comparan, which is the source that established this relationship? It is also possibe that Juan Joseph married three times and that the information about Juan de Llanos Valdes and Maria Diaz is erroneous. The matrimonial dispensation is quite clear.

Regards,

susana

Juan Antonio García and Adulfa Tadea Briceño

I'm curious if anyone has any information on this couple from Jerez, Zacatecas, Juan Antonio García and Adulfa Tadea Briceño. They would've married sometime around 1762. They had five children that I know of, all born in Jerez, Zacatecas between 1764 and 1774. Any information that anyone might have would be greatly appreciated.

Chris

FW: Somos Primos March 2016

-----Original Message-----
From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 3:02 PM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos March 2016

Please cut and paste: http://somosprimos.com/sp2016/spmar16/spmar16.htm

Dear Friends and Primos:

With so much talk about the importance of the Hispanic/Latino vote in the upcoming election, our presence still seems to be somewhat invisible, historically and currently.

There are several articles on that subject under United States. Also, on the subject of invisibility, don't miss, the two articles, El
Vaquero: Missing in US History written by Joe Lopez.

The heritage project, The Spanish Presence in Americas Roots, SPAR is moving forward. I am serving as CEO, Co-chaired by Judge Edward Butler.
We will soon have a website in place. We are trying to prove the historic presence of our antepasados in the history of the United States and the Americas.

Have you had your DNA done? Do you have indigenous markers? SPAR would love to hear from you. My maternal mitochondrial DNA is indigenous, plus I also have indigenous lines on my paternal side. SPAR would like to prove that we with southwestern Mexican heritage are living proof that the early history and foundation of the United States was formed primarily by families of mixed southern Europeans and indigenous heritage.

SPAR welcomes interest, support, and involvement of any nature, a paragraph, a sentence, or a family story which emphasizes the fact of your mixed heritage would be very welcomed. If you have questions, comments, please email or call me: Thank you for caring that our story be told.

Warmly, Mimi Lozano
mimilozano@aol.com
714-894-8161.

Somos Primos MARCH 2016 Table of Contents UNITED STATES Estados Unidos le debe todo a España Smithsonian Omits Hispanics In U.S. History Exhibit by Miguel Perez Smithsonian Internships Available for Latino Museum Specialization The Missing Hispanic in the U.S. Census Count by Felipe de Ortego y Gasca
Cartoon: Difference between Latino and Hispanic by Terry Blas"
Latinos in Hollywood: New Study Finds, Few Roles, Frequent Stereotypes

Boy Turns TV Winnings into Funds for Mariachi Program Beckman High student, Andrea Lopez, perfect AP score Spanish, one of 55 worldwide Where Are the Minority Professors? by Ben Myers
Storycorps: True to Their Words, students perform play of parents/ grandparents experiences The Latino Guide to Creating Family Histories by Dr. Julian Nava View from the Pier by Herman Sillas

Bittersweet Harvest: The Bracero Program 1942-1964 Tras Años De Espera Mariachi opera about 1950s labor camp in Oxnard, California is a big hit by Alicia Doyle Salinas hope to turn farm workers' children into computer scientists by Geoffrey Mohan, Proyecta 100,000 to Expand Economic Opportunities for U.S. and Mexican Citizens
by Felipe de Orgego y Gasca
A Plan' to help SAVE Dr. Hector P. Garcia Center February 17th, 1929 -- LULAC founded

San Bernardino, California County Board of Supervisor official wants to Arm county workers Oklahoma Legalizes Arming Teachers and Staff on School Campuses States Renew Push for Guns in Schools More states allowing armed school staff University of California, Irvine's Black Student Union asks to abolish campus police Homeland Security produces first estimate of foreign visitors to U.S.
who overstay deadline to leave

MISSING US HISTORY - EL VAQUERO
Vaquero - A Proud Tradition by Jose Antonio Lopez Vaquero, A South Texas Legacy by Jose Antonio Lopez The Spanish Presence in Americas Roots

HERITAGE PROJECTS
Ethnic Studies Now!
Heritage Discovery Center
Runners' Club, Political activism
Chicano Week, February 2-8th
The Point of Chicano History Week is as a Commemorative

HISTORIC TIDBITS
February 10th, 1721 -- French castaway reaches Natchitoches February 2nd, 1874 - - Ursuline Academy Founded in Dallas

HISPANIC LEADERS
Francisco X. Alarcón, Poet
Silvia “Mamacoatl” Parra, Musician, Poet, Healer Dr. Juan Francisco Lara, Educator, Activist Peter Quezada, Attorney, Activist

AMERICAN LATINO PATRIOTS
National Hispanic Vietnam Veterans Memorial Clean-up Day in Los Angeles Post Card from Navy Commander (retired) Everett Alvarez, jr.
First Cavalry Division Airmobile, 2/7 D Company

EARLY AMERICAN LATINO PATRIOTS
The American Revolution was a World War by Hon. Judge F. Butler Spain - USA
Bernardo de Galvez Award
Krueger Middle School Fife & Drum Corps
2016 Conference on Bernardo de Gálvez and Independence of the United States
Gálvez Opera Project
The Powder that Saved Fort Pitt by Joe Perez

SURNAMES
Don Juan Pablo Grijalva, Santa Ana, California History by Eddie Grijalva

DNA
We Are Cousins DNA Project
Las Villas del Norte Genealogical Group, Mission, Texas Female mtDNA Descendants of Isabel OLEA Could Thomas Jefferson's DNA Trail Reveal Middle-Eastern Origins?

FAMILY HISTORY
September 15-17th: Research trip to Salt Lake, all invited History at Home: A Guide to Genealogy by Andrea Davis
Highly recommended by high school student, Bailey Jansen Freedmen’s Bureau, More Than One Million Records Transcribed Family History in the Newspaper by Kimberly Powell St. Liberta, St. Quiteria and their Seven Sisters, Novtruplets by Refugio Fernandez

Joaquin Martin del Campo and Luisa Leonor Perez

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Im trying to find who the parents are of the grandparents listed on this
baptism

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-KM9T-G9

the paternal grandparents are Joaquin Martin del Campo and Luisa Leonor
Perez . Sometimes she goes by Luisa Leonor Perez Franco. I'm wondering If
anyone knows who their parents are. they probly were born around 1750. the
maternal grandparents are Juan Ibarra and Maria Antonia Martin de San Juan.
Im wondering if anyone knows who their parents are too

Danny C. Alonso

Don Vicente Martin del Campo and Ma Francisca ?

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I'm looking for information on this couple that married may 7 1803 named
Don Jose Maria Romo de Vivar and Guadalupe Martin del Campo. It doesn't
list his parents but her parents are Don Vicente Martin del Campo and Maria
Francisca something, I cant really tell. but I was wondering if anyone in
the Forum knows this couple or her parents. I cant find them on family
search or on the Wikitree or in Nuestros Ranchos. Does anyone know the
parents of Jose MAria Romo de Vivar or where Don Vicete Martin del Campo
fits in with the Martin del Campo family

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-KMSX-1Y

Danny C. Alonso