Chilarillo is in the Municipio of Aguascalientes in Aguascalientes State.
=Chilarillo, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes
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opportunity! Learn how to data entry this information in to the films
database that Arturo built. Interested, but have questions? Ask away.
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Nuestro Padre Jesus Nazareno, Jesus Maria, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Bautismos
C602731 1816 - 1833 0635557
C602732 1833 - 1844 0635558
C602733 1844 - 1852 0635559
C602734 1852 - 1858 0635560
J602735 1858 - 1862 0635561 Boys
K602735 1858 - 1862 0635561 Girls
C602736 1862 - 1868 0635562
C602737 1868 - 1872 0635563
Matrimonios
M602739 1825 - 1865 0635619
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San Jose, Calvillo, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Bautimos
C602671 1772 - 1798 0635761
J602672 1798 - 1806 0635762 Boys
K602672 1798 - 1806 0635762 Girls
C602673 1806 - 1815 0635763
C602674 1815 - 1824 0635764
J602675 1824 - 1830 0635765 Boys
K602675 1824 - 1830 0635765 Girls
J602676 1830 - 1839 0635766 Boys
K602676 1830 - 1839 0635766 Girls
C602677 1839 - 1847 0635767
C602678 1847 - 1855 0635768
C602679 1855 - 1862 0635769
C604351 1863 - 1870 0635770
C604352 1870 - 1875 0635771
Matrimonios
M604353 1772 - 1813 0635886
M604354 1813 - 1854 0635887
M604355 1854 - 1874 0635888
M604356 1874 - 1884 0635889
M604357 1884 - 1885 0604357
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bonus find. . .isn't it strange how the batch number flowed right from
Calvillo batches (C602679) above right into Jalisco below.
Sagrado Corazon De Jesus, Tenamaxtlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Bautismos
C602681 1757 - 1794 1153862
C602682 1795 - 1819 1153863
C602683 1819 - 1836 1153864
C602684 1836 - 1854 1153865
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That's strange that you were rejected. Right now all they ask for is
a 4 generation family tree to accompany a submission. It may be that
you were rejected from a particularly restrictive research project
back then. My research has only taken me back to 1850 in
Guadalajara. I haven't heard if I was accepted or rejected. I
didn't know they rejected any body. That is very interesting.
Linda
On Jul 30, 2006, at 12:57 PM, research-
request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:10:08 -0700
> From: "Emilie Garcia"
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mexico DNA study announced
> To:
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Linda (Romero),
>
> Yes, as Ernie says, this is the Brigham Young U. project. (Brigham
> Young U. is LDS). I had wanted to participate when it started, if
> only to help them build a database. I would not have gotten any
> personal results, only a report on migration of our species. They
> had us (my husband and myself) go to a community center and present
> our family trees and my husband and I were rejected because we had
> (and still have) gaps in our first five generations. Funny, I
> found everyone back in the late 1700s and early 1800s, but maybe
> the Revolution caused the loss of a lot of later records in
> Mexico. The oldest records must have been in a safer place in a
> central well-guarded location.
>
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA --
> ----- Original Message -----
Here is a very brief outline of my father's journey to the USA from Mexico.
Raul Estrada born in 1905 in Monterrey, Mexico and died in 1948, El Paso,
Texas.
At the age of 16 he crossed illegally the border from Mexico to the USA. He
was apprehended by the Border Patrol and deported a total of 5 times. Raul
crossed illegally the deadly Arizona desert once and almost died of thirst.
While crossing the Arizona desert he did manage to find some water but it was
crawling with worms. He drank some of it anyway.
His main work was as a painter, plasterer and decorator. At other times he
worked as a sheep herder, occasionally as a migrant worker in the farms, and in
railroad construction. In 1933 he and his brothers moved to Magdalena, New
Mexico where he met and married my mother. After his last deportation he
finally was allowed to apply for his immigration visa in 1940 because his wife
and four children were American citizens. As part of the penalty, however, he
had to spend 10 months in Juarez, Mexico before he could join his family in the
USA.
Three of their children are college graduates.
Gloria
Hi;
I hope somebody can help me with this. In one of my lines from Jerez-tepetongo (Salinas line). I have a document (Marriage 1737) that saids that the family was from TENASCO. I assumed that was in Jalisco. I found a dam with the name Tenaxco very close to colotlan-Sta Maria de los Angeles. But now there isn't a town with that name. Can anyone tell me if Tenasco was the old name for the region? Where should I look for the records? Maybe Colotlan?, Maybe Sta Maria de los Angeles? Has anyone seen the name tenasco (tenaxco)?
Thank you
susana leniski
>
This is an announcement of a new DNA genealogy study being done in
Northern Mexico. I don't read or speak Spanish so I had Babelfish
translate it for me. It may be of interest to researchers on this
forum.
Dear friends, The Genealogica Society of the North of Mexico this
making the harvesting of DNA samples (saliva) without cost in Mexico.
Single they can participate: - people of legal age - that they have
but of 5 generations (Ascending) - That are not natural or adpotados
children. If somebody this interested please to contact to me.
Benicio Samuel Sanchez Garcia President the Genealogica Society of
the North of Mexico Farm San Javier 109 Col. New Guadalupe Aurora,
the New Leon 67190 Mexico samuelsanchez@genealogia.org.mx http://
www.genealogia.org.mx tel: 01152-(81) 1492-6400 mobile: (81) 1276-7868
Linda
>
> From: "Genealogia.or.mx"
> Date: July 28, 2006 12:18:13 PM CDT
> To: GEN-HISPANIC-L@rootsweb.com
> Subject: estamos realizando recoleccion de ADN y Genealogia en Mexico
>
>
> Queridos amigos,
>
> La Sociedad Genealogica del Norte de Mexico esta realizando la
> recoleccion de muestras de ADN (saliva) sin costo en Mexico.
>
> Solo pueden participar:
> - personas mayores de edad
> - que tengan mas de 5 generaciones (Ascendente)
> - Que no sean hijos naturales o adpotados.
>
> Si alguien esta interesado favor de contactarme.
>
> Benicio Samuel Sanchez Garcia
> Presidente La Sociedad Genealogica del Norte de Mexico
> Rancho San Javier 109
> Col. Nueva Aurora
> Guadalupe, Nuevo Leon
> 67190 Mexico
> samuelsanchez@genealogia.org.mx
> http://www.genealogia.org.mx
> tel: 01152-(81) 1492-6400
> mobile: (81) 1276-7868
>
>
Juan's son was Mateo who accompanied him. Juan was a widower. Could this be Mateo?
I have seen Hernando referred to as Fernando.
What archive did you search? Was this through google? Juan married the grand daughter of Alonso
Albernoz de Sosa(grandson of ANdres Tapia) and Beatriz Navarro Rodriguez ( grandaughter of the Conquistador)
Juan's other son Francisco wound up marrying Martin Zavala's great niece Juana Sepulveda.
Thanks,
--
Esther A. Herold
-------------- Original message from arturoramos : --------------
>
> Esther:
>
> This is likely the same Juan de Arredondo... It may be that Damasio was an
> alternate name for Hernando... Arredondo and Ruesga are basically the same
> place. Arredondo is a town in the Valley of Ruesga in what is now Cantabria.
> However, the valley is in the mountains between Burgos and Cantabria and it may
> be that it those days, the town and valley were part of what was considered
> Burgos and thus would be in the "montanas de Burgos."
>
> Many people who came over came with licensias sponsored y rich people already in
> the new world and thus the "como criado" wording in the license. It is probable
> that he came in 1626, would have worked in one of the major cities (perhaps for
> his sponsor) and then headed out to the frontier in the north for more
> opportunity.
>
> I will try to get you the license document.
Here's a message Hope wanted to share with the group:
I so enjoy what everyone has to say and feel a connection to everyone
so... ..........I hope its ok to send this to you,hopfuly to share with
everyone. This is a web site about my uncle Esteban Villa. I think its a
great site about one of us and the struggles he went through as a young
latino.He was a very good friend of Cesar Chavez and worked with him on
the migrant problems in California.I know I would love to read
interesting things about others in the ranchoes family.
Hope Wilson (beelieve@bellsouth.net)
The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:
Shortcut to: http://www.chilipie.com/esteban.htm
Jose,
We probably have more connections than that. I also descend from Melchora Arriola through her daughter Juana Flores Valdes through her son Miguel Rodriguez. I descend from the the Villarreals 3 times and Diego Trevino de Valsco 25 times.
I probably need to update my tree on Rootsweb.com. Is that where you saw my tree?
I am looking for ancestors of the Ramos Arriola and Melendez family.
Regards,
--
Esther A. Herold
-------------- Original message from Jose Humberto Suarez : --------------
>
> Esther:
>
> Hello, we are distant cousins concerning the Arriola family. Our direct
> ancestors are Juan Ramos Arriola and Mar
Arturo,
Thanks, this looks promising. There is one film for the town for years before their departure. I will check it out.
IT was initesting!
Thank you again. What did you do to find the record?
--
Esther A. Herold
-------------- Original message from arturoramos : --------------
>
> Esther:
>
> PS I have put a few pages of each of the licencias of Juan Arredondo and Martin
> Zavala in a document in your file folder for you to try to decipher. Let us
> know what you find.
>
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14751
Joseph,
I am sending you the last message I sent you with a Babelfish translation. It took me a while to figure out the link for BabelFish. When I did a search for Babelfish.com all I kept getting was a language learning program. I kept searching for the translator engine link and I finally found it under AltaVista. Then I had to copy and paste my previous message to this new e-mail, save this e-mail as a draft, copy the English to the link, then copy and paste the translation back into the draft e-mail. This is a lot of rigamarole. What am I doing wrong now? I told you I am technically challenged. I hope someone who is Spanish-only speaking can understand the robotic translation, since there are some words in there I have never seen.
Emilie
Original Message
I guess when I am responding to a message sent to the group from Mexico where the member has typed it in Spanish, I could try to use the translation program to respond. However, I am so technically challenged; I wouldn't begin to know how to use Babelfish. Can you explain how to use it in conjunction with the Nuestros Ranchos e-mails? I just thought it would be easier to continue as we have, some writing in Spanish since it is easier for them, and some writing in English since it is easier for them. We seem to have been understanding each other so far. I am concerned about those members who don't even understand written Spanish, but I guess the Babelfish will take care of that, although it sounds like a robot talking.
>
BabelFish Translation
Conjeturo cuando estoy respondiendo a un mensaje enviado al grupo de México en donde el miembro lo ha mecanografiado en español, yo podría intentar utilizar el programa de la traducción para responder. Sin embargo, me desafían tan técnico; No comenzaría a saber utilizar Babelfish. ¿Puede usted explicar cómo utilizarlo conjuntamente con los E-maices de los ranchos de Nuestros? Acabo de pensar que sería más fácil continuar como tenemos, una cierta escritura en español puesto que es más fácil para él, y una cierta escritura en inglés puesto que es más fácil para él. Nos parecemos habernos entendido hasta ahora. Me refiero sobre esos miembros que incluso no entiendan a español escrito, pero conjeturo que el Babelfish tomará el cuidado de eso, aunque suena como hablar de la robusteza.
I don't mind reading and writing in Spanish on the list although I only consider myself conversant and not fluent. However, it drives me crazy to try to interpret all the words that have a "?" substituted for every accent mark, oomlaut, and tilde. Is there any way to have our program recognize Spanish symbols? Otherwise, I'd prefer to read Spanish without the marks.
I also don't think the translation from Babel Fish is very well done:
No importo el leer y el escribir en español en la lista aunque solamente me considero entendido y no fluido. Sin embargo, me conduce loco para intentar interpretar todas las palabras que tienen "?" substituido para cada marca, oomlaut, y tilde del acento. ¿Hay manera de hacer que nuestro programa reconozca símbolos españoles? Si no, preferiría leer a españoles sin las marcas.
También no pienso que es la traducción de los pescados de Babel muy bien hecha:
~Deena~
> Ya que hay un n?mero grande y creciente de miembros que prefieren comunicar en espa?ol es importante que intentemos hacer el sitio un poco m?s biling?e. Lo que escriben los miembros en sus mensajes ser?a bastante dif?cil traducir, pero esto se puede hacer a trav?s de una de las maquinas de traducci?n disponibles en la red como Babelfish. Intentaremos integrar esta funci?n al sitio en el futuro.
>>>>The other two are a Diego Pinedo who is a mulato in the early 1700s in Colotlan
and had lots of children and a Francisco Pinedo who appears in Tlaltenango around
1700. Before that there are no Pinedos in Tlaltenango other than a son of one of
the mayors in the early 1700s who appears to have left no descendancy in the area.
Francisco Pinedo appears to have immigrated from Tayahua, Zacatecas (in what is
now Villanueva) since the marriage of his oldest son states that he was born in
Tayahua. That makes sense and would explain why he doesn't appear >>>>>
I have no idea if this is the same Francisco PINEDO you are citing above, but maybe
this will lead to a connection:
from LDS #655564, Baptisms, El Sagrario, Autlan, Jalisco
Maria Gregoria PINEDO Navarro
born 11 Mar, baptized 12 Mar 1817
mulata de los Guajes
hija legitima de Jose Monico PINEDO y Maria Senobia NAVARRO
Abuelos paternos: Francisco PINEDO y Maria ALZAGA
Abuelos maternos: Juan NAVARRO y Maria Manuela RADILLO
Padrinos: Jose Seberino PLACENCIA y Maria Seberiana LOPEZ
75
The AM are Juan Joseph Antonio NAVARRO Guerrero, aka NABARRETTE,
hl de Julian NAVARRO y Juana Maria GUERRERO
and Juana Maria Manuela RADILLO Albares.
hl de Antonio Lusiano RADILLO Ocampos and Maria Ycacia ALBARES Gonsales
Gloria Delgado
Arturo,
Recibí el mensaje con tildes y acentos en español. Ahora, una pregunta: ¿recibiste tú este mensaje con acentos y interrogatorias?
I received the message with the diacritical markings in Spanish. Now, a question: did you receive my email with the appropriate markings? I'm using a Mac, G5 with Tiger software and I'm curious.
David in Albany, CA
-----Original Message-----
>From: arturoramos
>Sent: Jul 28, 2006 4:07 AM
>To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Accents and Question Marks
>
>
>Deena:
>
>We had this problem with the emails that the system was sending out as well. I imagine that it has something to do with the character system that your email is using to decode the messages but I believe there is a way to get the message to include a marker telling the email program what character system it is encoded in.
>
>Can you just confirm that you are seeing the question marks in your email and not on the site itself.
>
>Alguien quien recibe estos mesnajes en español... ¿Me podrían decir si reciben estos mensajes llenos de marcas de interrogación donde deberían haber tildes?
The research list is for research about the estados of Jalisco,
Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes. I understand that occasionally there
might be a question come up that needs to take us out of the area. In
those cases go ahead but then if the thread persists take it to private
email please.
. . .on the other hand the "general" list i'm thinking we should have
just a little. . .just a little more flexibility, but still keep in mind
the focus of the group is for the serious researcher doing genealogy in
the estados of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes.
What do you all think?
Might I also take this opportunity to introduce you to a great list that
is for All of Mexico: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mexicanfhr Jonathan
Walker is a great genealogist and bends over backwards to help people
with their genealogy questions. Also when various members of the
Nuestros Ranchos group have gone to SLC he has met them and shown them
around the library. I guess I'm saying all that so that if anyone thinks
that the http://nuestrosranchos.org group is too restrictive that there
are other quality options available.
thanks,
Joseph Puentes
ps: since I'm on my soap box lets not forget to change the subject
headers to properly reflect the content of the messages, thanks.
======================
La lista de la investigación está para la investigación sobre los
estados de Jalisco, de Zacatecas, y de Aguascalientes. Entiendo que de
vez en cuando pudo haber una pregunta viene encima de ése necesita
tomarnos del área. En esos casos a continuación pero después entre si el
hilo de rosca persiste toma él al email privado por favor. . . el on el
otro mano la lista "general" que soy pensando nosotros debe tener apenas
poco. el just una poco más flexibilidad, pero todavía tiene en cuenta
que el foco del grupo está para el investigador serio que hace la
genealogía en los estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas, y Aguascalientes. ¿Qué
usted todo piensa? La fuerza I también toma esta oportunidad de
introducirle a una gran lista que esté para todo el México:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mexicanfhr Jonatán Walker es un gran
genealogist y se dobla encima al revés para ayudar a la gente con sus
preguntas de la genealogía. También cuando los varios miembros del grupo
de los ranchos de Nuestros han ido a SLC él lo ha resuelto y lo ha
demostrado alrededor de la biblioteca. Conjeturo que soy el decir todo
el eso de modo que si cualquier persona piensa que el grupo de
http://nuestrosranchos.org es demasiado restrictivo que hay otras
opciones de la calidad disponibles.
gracias,
José Puentes
p.d.: puesto que estoy en mi caja del jabón dejo para no olvidarse de
cambiar los jefes sujetos para reflejar correctamente el contenido de
los mensajes, gracias.
This is for Nathan Jones.
Nathan,
I called Ms.Silvia Granillo (915-859-7913 who is the current Enrollment
Officer of the Tigua Tribe. I asked about wheher Cacique (Chief)
Perjuin Granillo was still alive. She told me that that was in the
olden time. She never answered my question but a Cacique Aniceto
Granillo died a long time ago. Perjuin may have been his nickname.
You can probably borrow books about his fron the University of Texas at
el Paso (UTEP) where they have Tigua history material.
In one of their references Cacique Granillo is listed as follows
Also, Silvia Granillo told me that she remembered an Alderete family
who used to live in the reservation but that they were never Tigua. If
I remember correctly (don't quote on this, it's been a long time since
I read it) that family was kicked out of the Reservation when they
dislodged several families who were not Tiguas.
Ms. Granillo also told me that for further information you should call
her at the number given. It might be usefull to pursue this further at
the Tigua office.
I hope this is helpful.
Elvira
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Perjuin Granillo of the Tiguas.
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Do any of you in El Paso know if Chief Perjuin Granillo of the Tiguas
is still
alive?
I am told he has another name, this might be his Hispanic name.
I am told he is the only living person who can verify my father's
heritage.
I'm told he has avoided all Alderetes for years because he feels
responsible for
the death of his best friend, my grandfather. He might think we want to
kill
him, but nothing is further from the truth. No one holds him
responsible, the
death was due to natural causes.
Marta Estrada at the El Paso Historical Society has tried to help me,
but she
says all her documents and files are in storage. By the time the
library is open
again, he may be dead, if he isn't already.
I believe there are pictures available of my ggrandfather, Benigno
Alderete,
perhaps at the Candelaria House, or in the library files. He was a major
personage in his times.>
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Muy bien dicho. Arturo y Joseph han trabajado bastante, y lo agradesco.
Me gusta que el sitio sera bilingue.
Well said. Arturo and Joseph have worked hard to pull us together, and offer us all the aid we need. I appreciate all their hard work.
I particularly appreciate the move towards a bilingual environment.
I offer my help in cemetery look ups. I live near Evergreen Cemetery, the oldest cemetery in Los Angeles, dating from the 1840s. Most of the old wooden markers have disintegrated, but there are many from the last part of the 19th century.
I also live near Calvary Catholic Cemetery in Boyle Heights, and Resurrection Catholic Cemetery here in Monterey Park.
I don't believe their records are available online. I can go to the office and search the books.
I'll be glad to leave flowers on a grave at anyone of these cemeteries for you, and email you a picture of the grave.
---- Alicia Carrillo wrote:
> Arturo,
What a great option for all, to have the opportunity to learn from each other, both spanish and english speaking, aside from e-mail communication.
Que gran oportunidad para todos, poder compartir y recopilar informacion en ambas lenguas, español e ingles.
This site is one that brings much gratification, empowerment, knowledge, companionship, insight and kinship to many many people via cyberspace. Who could have imagined when I was growing up that I would have such close connections to people I have never met. For those of you who are younger and who grew up in the age of technology it is not something foreign. I used to have an elderly neighbor who when her husband passed away about 20 years ago and after she had been alone for for many years would say that she could no longer read the paper, not because she wasn't literate or couldn't see, she had been a teacher, but because much of the terminology was not something she could relate to.
Este sitio es trae mucha gratificacion, empoderamiento, sabiduria, acompañamiento, perspectiva, parentesco y afinidad via el espacio cybernetico. Quien se hubiese imaginado cuando yo era niña que fuera posible sentirme tan cerca a tantas personas que ni conozco. Para ustedes que son mucho mas jovenes y que se desarollaron en la epoca de tecnologia no es algo raro. Tuve una vecina anciana que cuando murio su esposo hace mas de 20 años y que despues de muchos años me decia, "no me es posible leer el periodico porque hay tanto que no entiendo" Esto no era porque no supiese leer puesto que fue profesora sino porque mucho del lenguaje no lo comprendia.
It was the high-tech age, talking of bytes and megabytes, e-mail, cache, semiconductors, mainframes, laptops, desktops, memory but not in the context she knew in terms of memory, bites, desktops and laptops and a many other words or phrases.
Era la epoca de bytes, megabytes, e-mail, cache, semiconductores, maniframes, laptops, memoria y otras frases y palabras pero no se usaban en el contexto que ella sabia sino que de manera ajena a su generacion.
I have gotten too wordy but I just wanted to thank you both for giving us the gift of your time, your talent and your wisdom.
Les quiero agradecer a Joseph y Arturo por el regalo que nos brindan con su sabiduria, talento y el tiempo que toman para mejorar la presentacion de informacion a este grupo de gentes que se interesan en la busca de sus ancestros y su historia.
Atentamente,
Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Ca
----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:13:38 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Páginas en español
Ya que hay un número grande y creciente de miembros que prefieren comunicar en español es importante que intentemos hacer el sitio un poco más bilingüe. Lo que escriben los miembros en sus mensajes sería bastante difícil traducir, pero esto se puede hacer a través de una de las maquinas de traducción disponibles en la red como Babelfish. Intentaremos integrar esta función al sitio en el futuro.
Lo más importante por el momento es hacer que las páginas que genera el sitio que tengan instrucciones o información fundamental quedan traducidas. Si Vd. ha puesto en su perfil que su idioma sea español, deberá ver que los menus del costado derecho y la mayoría de páginas genéricas (es decir las que no contienen mensajes escritos por miembros) quedan traducidas al español. Sé que aún hay algunas páginas que no quedan traducidas. Si nos pueden ayudar a identificar páginas que no quedan traducidas, intentaremos traducirlas.
Ya verán que recién traducimos la página principal de archivos “Files” y algunas otras.
Gilbert Paez here. First of all, thank you for letting me part this group. I am working my way through the various areas of the website. It is Great!
My question: Could someone help me with the rules for the proper use of hispanic surnames? Example: My grandmother's maiden name was Romero and my grandfather's last name was Paez. Would my father be Paez Romero?
Cuales son las reglas para el uso de los appellidos en la cultura hispana? Ejemplo: El apellido de mi abuelo era Romero antes de casarse. El apellido de mi abuelo era Paez. El apellido de mi padre fuera Paez Romero o Romero Paez?
Gracias,
Thanks in advance for your help.
Sistema Español de Dos Apellidos.
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Ya que hay un número grande y creciente de miembros que prefieren comunicar en español es importante que intentemos hacer el sitio un poco más bilingüe. Lo que escriben los miembros en sus mensajes sería bastante difícil traducir, pero esto se puede hacer a través de una de las maquinas de traducción disponibles en la red como Babelfish. Intentaremos integrar esta función al sitio en el futuro.
Lo más importante por el momento es hacer que las páginas que genera el sitio que tengan instrucciones o información fundamental quedan traducidas. Si Vd. ha puesto en su perfil que su idioma sea español, deberá ver que los menus del costado derecho y la mayoría de páginas genéricas (es decir las que no contienen mensajes escritos por miembros) quedan traducidas al español. Sé que aún hay algunas páginas que no quedan traducidas. Si nos pueden ayudar a identificar páginas que no quedan traducidas, intentaremos traducirlas.
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Dear cousins:
I just got this email from a gentleman in Aguascalientes who is researching our same lines. He must have run across my homepage. As I understand his message Diego Romo de Vivar ranged over a wider area than we anticipated, not extending his lifestyle to Hidalgo del Parral, Chihuahua alone, but reaching as far north in Nueva Biscaya as Villa Ahumada, which he founded.
If you've never been there, I highly recommend Villa Ahumada. It's the town that cheese built. I think Menonite Cheese, but in any case a soft, moist, white cheese served on a fresh hand made tortilla.
Out of this world! Vendors sell them to passing cars, trains, busses....pedestrians! They probably sold them to passing wagon trains.
All decades before Pollo Loco!
Ernie: dame un poco más de información sobre los Romo de Vivar: Diego y
Pedro. Te informo que Diego estuvo unos años en Chihuahua como colonizador
y fundó lo que ahora es Villa Ahumada.. Es probable que haya dejado
descendencia fuera de matrimonio por allá. Hay un estudio interesante de ese
episodio.Tengo documentado que se casó en Aguascalientes, no en España.
Pedro estuvo en Alamos, Sonora también como colonizador, pero al parecer
volvió ya viejo a Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Es fundador de la mayoría de las
líneas genealógicas de Los Altos de Jalisco y de ahí, de las de Sonora y
Sinaloa. Tengo la hipótesis de que vinieron a América por que son primos
hermanos del Capitán Juan Rincón de Vivar y el Presbítero Pedró Rincón (de
Vivar) de Ortega, poderosísimo personaje que fundó el mayorazgo de los
Rincón-Gallardo. Es probable que los Romo hayan venido a ayudar a los primos
ricos y luego que sirvieron a la corona como colonizadores en las fronteras
de los chichimecas, se asentaron en esta región como propietarios. Está
documentado (Archivo histórico de Aguascalientes, 1654), que ambos
estuvieron un tiempo en la costa de lo que ahora es Nayarit, junto con otros
colonos del centro de Nueva Galicia, defendiendo la costa de los ataques
piratas.
Saludos
Mi reconocimiento a la labor desarrollada por Arturo, Joseph y todos aquellos que hacen posible que exista "Nuestros Ranchos". Coincido totalmente con los conceptos vertidos por Alicia Carrillo. Finalmente, los idiomas, como las religiones o los partidos políticos no deben ser obstáculo para el entendimiento. Sin embargo "hablando el mismo idioma", podremos entendernos mejor. Saludos y enhorabuena.
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Hello everyone,
My name is Leticia Salazar, and I am new to this group, I joined the group
in hope of extending my familytree and helping others do the same. My
research began back in 2000 after I purchased a book for my mother on genealogy,
(Filigranas, Fundaciones y Genealogias de Tepetongo, Jerez Zac.) by Jose
Leon Robles De La Torre, although the book contains many families including my
Parents, many of the family tree are wrong. I am hoping one day write my own
book and include not only genealogies but also life and struggles that lead
families to this country.
I have created a PAF5 that contains over 1,000 names, if anyone is from
Municipio de Tepetongo Zac, I am more than willing to share my info.
At this time I have a couple of questions for anyone from this area, I am
stuck on two names, Pantaleona Carlos who history claims was married to a Rafael
Felix back in 1790, although there are many Rafael Felix I can't find any
concrete evidence they were married. I would really appreciate anyones help.
thank you very much
Leticia
Saludos a todo el Grupo. Les comunico que desde ayer tienen a su disposición mi modesto trabajo de investigación relacionado con los MARQUEZ, ROBLES, RODRIGUEZ, VILLAOSLADO de Tepetongo, Zac. y los JUAREZ, VIDAL, HARO, ESPITIA de Jeréz, Zac. Agradeceré las correcciones, adiciones y sugerencias al mismo. El documento está disponible para todos bajo el título
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