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Hi everyone,
The adventure to finding my family roots continues!
Any tips that you might share will be appreciated.
I am taking baby steps with my Roque family.

(I have posted another intro with family from Jerez, Zacatecas)

Debra Perez

I did find records that listed Ojo de Agua, Aguascalientes and I know of records at
El Senor Del Encino. I was lucky to visit Aguascalientes with my Grandfather and Grandmother ages ago when I was a teen. Both of them have now passed on.

Pedro Roque abt.1884 married around 1903 Telesfora Urzua abt.1887

Bonifascico Roque abt.1903
Calletana Roque abt.1904
Maria Roque abt. 1905
Juan Urzua Roque abt. 1907
Romulo Roque abt. 1907
xxx
xxxx
Maria Isabel abt. 1918
Jesus Uruza Roque abt. 1920
Pedro Roque abt. 1925
xxxxx
Andres Roque abt.1931

Hi

I have been searching for some time for any reference to Don Raphael Romo. Now I have totally by chance found a person with that name (including the title). For anyone else with this name in their records (or any of the others in the subject line), here are the details (question marks indicate an abreviation I am unsure of, but think it means village or something along those lines):

Mexico Catholic Church Records, AGS Calvillo, Senor San Jose, Matrimonios, 1772 - 99, image 15
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11613-124739-6?cc=1410092&…

21 Aug 1773 Marriage of
DON GABRIEL NARCISO DE VILLALOBOS, native and resident of this village (?), in the hacienda of Santos (?), legitimate son of Don Ygnacio de VILLALOBOS, deceased, and Dona Feliciana Manuela LOPEZ DE NABA

and

Dona LUISA ROMO DE BIBAR, native and resident of this village (?) in Santa Gertrudis, legitimate daughter of Don Joseph Miguel Romo de Bibar, deceased, and Dona Ysabel Rosaura LOPEZ DE NABA....

DIPSENSATION GIVEN FOR 2ND DEGREE COSANGUINITY
Testimonies given by Don RAPHAEL ROMO DE BIBAR and Don PEDRO ROMO, residents of this valley, and Don Fernando Diaz of Aguascalientes.

PADRINOS:
Don Antonio Doroteo de VILLALOBOS
Dona Leonor FLORES DE LA TORRE (? a little hard for me to read the surname)

Regards,¨
Denise

Hi

I have ealier seen an interest in the name Antonio Romo, so here is a reference to him (or, one of the Antonio Romos of the area!)I recently found:

Mexico Church Records, AGS, AGS, Sagrario, baptisms 1781 - 86, image 103

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11810-117282-3?cc=1410092&…

Baptism on 22 Jan 1784 of:

JOSE MARIA YGNACIO, espanol, born in this villa, the 11th of the current month, legitimate son of:

FRANCISCO GUERRERO and
MARIA DIAZ

Padrinos:
ANTONIO ROMO and
MARIA JACINTA LOPES DE NABA

Incidentally, I put the name Maria Jacinta Lopes de Naba into family search, and her marriage with Antonio (Manuel Antonio) Romo showed up:

"Mexico, Marriages, 1570-1950," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JZKC-4LB : accessed 13 June 2012), Maria Jasinta Lopez De Naba, 1772.

So then I looked up this record just on a WHIM (Its nice to be able to FIND something your looking for...even when its not something you are actually looking for!) and on the page opposite I found a reference to a Don RAPHAEL ROMO (is my long quest almost over?), Don PEDRO ROMO and Dona LUISA ROMO. That info will be in a separate post...

Regards
Denise

Where can I locate a listing or map of the Old Haciendas that used to exist around Amatitian, Jalisco.

I am trying to find information on my husband's maternal grandfather, Emilio Valdivia. His father was Tomas Valdivia, and his mother was Secundina Ramos. Does anyone have these names in their family tree?

Emilio Valdivia was in the seminary in Totatiche at the time of the Cristero War, and had to leave to avoid being killed. He immigrated to Southern California.

We cannot locate any information regarding Emilio's family. I don't know if he was from the area around Totatiche or somewhere else. We have heard that he might have been from an area in Zacatecas that wasn't too far from Totatiche. Knowing nothing of the area, I have no idea where that might be.

Does anyone know anything about any Valdivia families around Totatiche, or are there any Valdivia's in Southern Zacatecas? Can anyone give me any ideas of how to research the family of Emilio Valdivia?

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Kathy Hargrove Gutierrez

Thanks Armando for this valuable information. I already checked the marriage certificate!

Best,
Gabriela

On Jun 12, 2012, at 6:07 PM, research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:

I have not had a chance to see this film yet, as I was out of town (in a rather rural area of MA).
Has anyone seen this film since it's June 1st opening? If so, can you provide a review?

Thanks.

Natalie Coleman

Hi

Here is the baptismal record of Maria Guadalupe Romo. I am in serious doubt about the name of the place, as a google search does not turn it up. If anyone has the time to check out the link to the image and correct what might be a mistake, I would much appreciate it.

Regards,
Denise

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11810-117977-65?cc=1410092…

Mexico Catholic Church Records, AGS AGS Sagrario, Baptisms 1781 - 86 image 110.

Baptism 10 March 1784

Maria Guadalupe espanola, born at Puenta de las Tortugas (?), 27 febr., legitimate dau. of
Pablo Martinez and
Gertrudis Romo,
residents of said Puenta

Padrinos
Manuel Alonso de los Ynojos
Gertrudis Romo

I have been working in the last months searching the family roots of my mother's mother. Here are my findings. I hope this information is helpful (source: family search). Please let me know if you have any information about Joseph de Udave. I would like to know who are his parents. It seems the last names of this part of my family came from the Basque Country; de Udave, Ruiz, Esparza and Romo?

1 Joseph de Udave b: Abt. 1710
+Marzela de Esparza m: 10 Sep 1730 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
2 Francisco Xavier Maximiano Udave Esparza b: 06 Jun 1749 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
2 Juan Fernando Maximiano de Udave Esparza b: 06 Jun 1749 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
+Maria Josefa Romo b: 1759, d: 07 Aug 1839 in Aguascalientes, Mexico
3 Juana Maria de Udave Romo b: 21 May 1797
3 Jose Francisco Udave Romo b: 24 Dec 1794 in Nuestra Senora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche,
Jalisco, Mexico
3 Maria Angela Udave Romo b: 24 Oct 1790 in Nuestra Senora de Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco,
Mexico
3 Apolinario de Udave Romo b: Abt. 1801 in Callvillo, Aguascalientes, Mexico
+Ignacia Ruiz Lopez m: 1827 in Calvillo, Aguascalientes, Mexico
4 Modesto Eudave Ruiz b: 1828 in Calvillo, Aguascalientes, Mexico, d: 1878
+Josefa Lopez Cervantes b: 1830 in Villa del Refugio, Tabasco, Zacatecas, Mexico, m: 15 May
1863 in Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Villa del Refugio, Zacatecas, Mexico, d: 1902
5 Horacio Eudave Lopez b: 1867 in Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Villa del Refugio, Zacatecas,
Mexico
+Rosaura Rodriguez Sandoval b: 08 Oct 1866 in Santa Maria Mecatebasco, Villa del Refugio,
Zacatecas, Mexico, m: Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Villa del Refugio, Zacatecas, Mexico
6 Ruben Eudave Lopez (Rodriguez) b: 11 Jan 1891 in Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Villa del Refugio,
Zacatecas, Mexico, d: 13 Nov 1946 in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico
+Carolina Prieto Gutierrez b: 04 Nov 1894 in Canelas, Durango, Mexico, d: 26 Feb 1986 in
Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico
7 Carolina Eudave Prieto b: 04 Apr 1923 in Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico, d: Abt. 1984 in
Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico
+Rene Rendon Lozano b: 1920 in Cadereyta, Nuevo Leon, Mexico, m: 21 Nov 1942 in
Cadereyta Jiménez, Nuevo Leon, Mexico, d: 15 Aug 1954 in Ciudad Victoria, Tamaulipas,
Mexico
8 Laura Carolina Rendon Eudave b: 27 May 1951 in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico

Thanks!

Gabriela

Hi

For those with a research interest in the Romo de Vivar family and links to Velasco:

Found in Mex. Catholic Church Records, AGS, AGS, Sagrario, Baptisms 1781 - 86, image 116:

Baptism 25 April 1784 of MARIA YNES JOSEFA, española,born at Puesto de Chichimeco,...on the 20th day of the current (corriente) month, legitimate daughter of...

FATHER: LORENZO ROMO
MOTHER: JUANA ANTONIA DE LEON

Padrinos:
Don Jose Mateo Gutierrez de Velasco
Doña Emerenciana Romo de Vibar

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11810-121081-45?cc=1410092…

Regards

Denise

I´m trying to help you Lorenzo, I don´t know how many children do you have.. spouse:Lety Reynoso Justa Navejas child:Paula Candelaria Yga. Juares Navejasname:Paula Candelaria Yga. Juares Navejasgender:Femalebaptism/christening date:02 Feb 1772baptism/christening place:JEREZ,JEREZ DE GARCIA SALINAS,ZACATECAS,MEXICOfather's name:Felix Juaresmother's name:Justa Navejasindexing project (batch) number:K60080-4system origin:Mexico-ODMsource film number:439847 spouse:Justa Nabejaschild:Maria Franca. Juares Nabejasname:Maria Franca. Juares Nabejasgender:Femalebaptism/christening date:21 Nov 1774baptism/christening place:JEREZ,JEREZ DE GARCIA SALINAS,ZACATECAS,MEXICOfather's name:Feliz Juaresmother's name:Justa Nabejasindexing project (batch) number:K60080-4system origin:Mexico-ODMsource film number:439847 spouse:Justa Navejaschild:Lauriana De La Cruz Juares Navejasname:Lauriana De La Cruz Juares Navejasgender:Femalebaptism/christening date:12 Jul 1777baptism/christening place:JEREZ,JEREZ DE GARCIA SALINAS,ZACATECAS,MEXICOfather's name:Felix Juaresmother's name:Justa Navejasindexing project (batch) number:K60080-4system origin:Mexico-ODMsource film number:439847 spouse: Justa Nabejaschild:Pedro Joseph Juares Nabejasname:Pedro Joseph Juares Nabejasgender:Malebaptism/christening date:05 May 1763baptism/christening place:JEREZ, JEREZ DE GARCIA SALINAS, ZACATECAS, MEXICOfather's name:Felix Juaresmother's name:Justa Nabejasindexing project (batch) number:C60080-3system origin:Mexico-ODMsource film number:439846

Hi

I am sifting though images still looking for the elusive Romos (Raphael, Raphaela, and son Manuel). Sometimes I come across a Romo and then I cross check to see if the name has ever been mentioned her in NR. If not, then I post it on the chance that someday someone may need that info - or maybe there is someone out there already needing it.

Catarina Romo:

She shows up as padrina for Jose Vicente, español, legitimate son of Matias Francozo and Anna Gertrudis, natives of this town (Aguascalientes), padrinos were Fermin de Medina and Catalina Romo...

There was no note of Don or Doña.

Mexico, Catholic Church Records, Aguasc, Aguasc, Sagrario, Baptisms 1781 - 86, image 180.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11810-118367-21?cc=1410092…

I searched the name Francozo (Francoso) in IGI because I'd never seen it before (but then I am new at this), and found out that there were many in the Aguasc area and also Guanajuato, and one hit in Enc de Diaz. The earliest Francoso in Mexico in IGI was in 1690 in Tacubaya (Mexico City).At that time it was a beautiful area where viceroys and other families of wealth and prominence had their second homes. (From Wikipedia, article on the "start" quality scale, but it does include references to academic articles)

Regards
Denise

Hola a todos de Nuestros Ranchos. I was browsing at www.somosprimos.com went to the search block and put- padilla davila. I then scrolled to Descendents of Lord Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza,compiled by John D Inclan. I appears according to what I read that I and many if not all of us are related to all of the people of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. John Inclans research touches much of Jalisco ,Zacatecas ,Aguascalientes ,All the north eastern states of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. I was was tripping. If any one has an e-mail to John D Inclan I would like to ask him if any of the Hurtado de Mendoza are tha same as an in example of Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza wife of Toribio Hernandez de Arellano. I was wondering also what you members opinion of John Inclan research .
Ronnie Reynoso
pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco

Why am I having trouble logging in and they won't send me a new password.

Hi

Here is the name Romo in connection with surname Vera, in the baptism of a boy:

Jose Primo Feliciano
baptized 10 June 1785, legitimate son of
father: Jose Maria Vera
mother: Maria Josefa Romo de Vivar

padrino: Don Jose Luis Acosta

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11810-117466-9?cc=1410092&…

Mexico Church Records, Aguasc, Aguasc, Sagr, Baptisms 1781 - 86, image 164

Regards
Denise

Hello everyone , it seems I've hit a brick wall so to speak , in my Juarez and carrillo lineages . I've gotten as far as 9 generations in each. Family but now there's nothing left. For the Juarez sisde I found nothing from Felix olayo juarez and his wife justa rosa nabejas and fatter back in history. Same for Jose Maria Carrillo and gertrudis ortiz(Ortis). I found that they had 2 other children on new.familysearch.com but I can not find the records, hoping for names of grandparents. I'm stumped lol. Can anyone help me out or make any suggestions? Thank you all very much, Lorenzo Carrillo.

I updated my GEDCOM Family Tree here at Nuestros Ranchos

Joseph de Leon

Is anyone here doing research in Nayarit? If you are interested in collaborating, let me know. I have concentrated in Acaponeta and will expand to Ixtlan del Rio, Huaxicori - and north in El Rosario (Sinaloa). I'll be sticking with records between 1700-1900, give or take.

Through one of my families in Nayarit, I have been transported to the Basque Country, and I'm also looking for a partner who has had his/her feet wet in the Basque Country, to share findings or team up and split the work.

I am concentrating on the places listed below:
(Years 1500s - 1600s - and some early 1700s - nothing after 1750)
Etxaguen, Aramaio, Álava
Uribarri, Aramaio, Álava
Ibarra, Aramaio, Álava
Oñate, Guipuzcoa
Bergara, Guipúzcoa
Eskoriatza, Guipúzcoa
Zaldívar, Vizcaya
Abadiño, Vizcaya
Durango (Uribarri), Vizcaya

Please private-message me if you are interested,

I was wondering how to look up informacion matrimonial if i have the actual wedding date..what dates do i need to look at...my second request is if any maps of the old haciendas/ranchos or towns exists..i am researching jalisco..some of the places are el sentro,,la azerquila,,el carrizo,,palocuate and others...any and all help will be appreciated

I am new to Nuestros Ranchos. I have already hit a small jackpot in that I found a post with a link that led me to the baptismal records for my husband's maternal grandmother who was born in Colotlan, Jalisco in 1909. I am very excited to have a place that might be able to shed some light on some parts of my husband, Michael's family.

His maternal grandmother, Altagracia Miramontes, (Ramon Miramontes and Maria Jara) was born in Colotlan and lived in Totatiche until the Cristero War. Her father brought his three daughters to Southern California to escape the dangers.

Michael's maternal grandfather, Emilio Valdivia, was in the seminary in Totatiche at the time of the Cristero War. He had to flee to avoid being killed. I am trying to find out more about Emilio and his family. We don't know exactly where they are from, but it might be Totatiche or even Zacatecas.

If anyone has any information regarding this area and these families, I would appreciate any assistance you can give. Thank you for your help.

Kathy Hargrove Gutierrez

I would like to know how to access the Church records so that I can research my paternal grand parents.
Looking for records for the Eugenio Vicencio family.

Ernest R Vicencio

Hello fellow members of NuestrosRanchos,

Today I posted the official 100th Post at www.guadalajaradispensas.com. I hope the site has helped most of you break through a brick wall. I have learned so much in the last year of indexing these records. It continues to be a lesson in the history, culture and politics of the era.

I want to personally thank the following individuals for volunteering, at their own level. We are turning out to be the little engine that could! We can use more volunteers if anyone here is interested, please see the "NEWS-Coming Soon" page at the blog.

THANKS TO:
*Jaime R. Alvarado
*Daniel Méndez de Torres
*Enrique Salvador Agráz
*Veronica Rodríguez Damián
*Austin Pérez
*Linda Vásquez-Galindo
*Lawrence Bouett

I also ask that if the site has helped you - that you please leave a comment at our Facebook page. Sometimes a I need some encouragement to keep doing what I can to share the info I find with all of you. Here is the link to our page (and please *like* us):
http://www.facebook.com/pages/GuadalajaraDispensas/171714116271888

when i was searching through the http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com for various last names on my family tree, i came across this entry

288 #1028 valentin dolores acosta & laureana flores / colotlan & jerez

when i looked it up, i found out who ysbael de ulloa's father was

here's the link to the page on familysearch, so you can see it for yourself
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18425-17968-37?cc=1874591&wc…

his name is francisco, and she had a brother named juan ulloa.

Despues de casi 2 años encontre a mi sexto abuelo que habra nacido alrededor de 1720 casado con Juana Clara de Barragan, Thomas firma como Notario en las actas matrimoniales de Monte Escobedo alrededor de 1750-1760

Cuando se casa mi 5to abuelo Manuel Sanchez dice ser hijo de Thomas Sanchez Castellanos, pero despues ponen como Thomas de Villanueva Sanchez, sus actas de matrimonio como notario las firma como Thomas de Villanueva Sanchez Castellanos.

Alguien me pudiera ayudar como puedo encontrar mas informacion de los notarios? como los elegian? porque aparece con diferente apellido? cuales eran los requisitos para ser elegidos? de Villanueva era un recordatorio de su procedencia?

Los archivos de Monte Escobedo guardan mucha informacion pero desafortunadamente hay bastantes archivos dañados por la humedad siendo casi imposible su lectura.

i just found the marriage information for this couple but i'm having a hard time reading it. could anyone translate it for me

here it is
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18415-79308-35?cc=1874591&wc…