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Hola a todos.-

Estoy buscando información del linaje de los apellidos Colores, Torres,
Contreras y Correa . Estoy interesado principalmente el linaje de mi
tatarabuelo Jorge Colores, a continuación describo los eventos de la vida
de mis ancestros:

1. Jorge Colores, posiblemente originario de Peñon Blanco Durango y
posiblemente nació entre los años 1860 a 1865 aproximadamente, se casó con
Liarada Contreras, es la única información que tengo de ella y él.

El hijo de Jorge Colores y Liarada Contreras fue: Mariano Colores nació en
1882 originario de Ojocaliente Zacatecas México y murió en el año de 1958
en Milwuakee, Wisconsin USA.

Mariano Colores (1882-1958), se casó a los 19 años de edad, el día 09 de
Noviembre de 1901, con María Jesús Torres teniendo 16 años de edad,
originaria de Ojocaliente, Zacatecas. Los padres de María de Jesús fueron
Luis Torres y Lorenza Correa. Los abuelos paternos fueron: Francisco
Torres y María Nieves y Los abuelos maternos fueron: Antonio Correa y María
Guadalupe.

Es importante mencionar que estos apellidos de Colores y Torres proviene
del Rancho San Ramón municipio de la Blanca Zacatecas. Mariano y Maria de
Jesús emigraron a USA de jovenes de aproximadamente a los 23 a 25 años de
edad.

Notas de la boda: se casaron en la Santa Iglesia Parroquial de Ojocaliente,
Jorge Colores padre de Mariano Colores ya estaba fallecido en la fecha de
celebración del matrimonio de su hijo.

Los hijos de Mariano Colores y María Jesús Torres fueron:

5. i. Peter Colorez

6. ii. Victoria Colores

7. iii. Isidro Colores, b. 15 Mayo 1915, Ojocaliente, Zacatecas,
México.

8. iv. Guadalupe Colores

9. v. Emanuel Colorez

10. vi. Ana Colores

11. vii. Antonio Colores

Cabe mencionar que la mayoria de los hijos de Mariano Colores
residieron en Milwuakee,
Wisconsin USA y alguno de ellos se cambiaron el apellido Colores a Colorez
(solo cambiaron la última letra del apellido).

a Agradezco de antemano la información que deseen sumar y compartirme de
los linajes antes mencionados.

At Atentamente.-

Victor C.

Arturo Ramos
el libro de los Valdes de Jalisco, segun esto son solamente de la linea Valdes, no como los de Zacatecas que iniciamos con los Llanos de Valdes y en 1750 aproximadamente la mayoria se queda con el Valdes com es en mi caso, pero tengo entendido que el libro marca tambien algun Llanos de Valdes como ancestro, si tienes el libro transcribeme esa parte nadamas o copia dela pagina
gracias de antemano
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES

My apologies in advance.  I'm sure this has been discussed/explained before, but this is the first time I've run across it.  I'm trying to figure out exactly what would the relationship be in "tercer conguanto de consanguinidad de que eran lejodos".  There is no informacion matrimonial records available (or at least online) to offer more information on the couple, only the matrimonio.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks so much.    Alice

Hey Everyone,

I've been doing a lot of digging into old films and have been trying to track down my great great grandmother, who is a big mystery seeing as how she died shortly after giving birth to my great grandfather. How shortly is beyond me, my grandfather and his brothers all say different things varying from right after child birth to a month later.

The name of my great grandfather was Fidel Gonzalez Gonzalez, he was born on April 24th, 1918 in Uribes, Villa Guerrero, Jalisco.

His father Bernardo Gonzalez Flores, also born in Uribes, was the son of Felipe Gonzalez Pinedo and Andrea Flores Mayorga. Bernardo died in August 8th, 1935

His birth still boggles me as there appear to be 3 different possible years he was born (86,88, and the least likely 80) though all 3 of my sources confirm it's the same person.

Fidel also had two sisters, which I believe were full sisters based from what I recall at his eulogy and the way my grandfather spoke of them:
Soledad Gonzalez about 1912
Gabriela Gonzalez about 1906

I, however, am not sure how reliable their birth dates are as they come from the same source saying that Bernardo was born in in 1880.

The person I'm trying to find is Fidel's mother. I know her last name is Gonzalez but am not sure about her first name. An aunt told me that it was Asuncion, however, this has not yielded any results. Recently I found a marriage record for Bernardo Gonzalez marrying a "Presentacion Gonzalez" but a lot of the terminology is beyond my Spanish:

(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21312-53450-40?cc=1918187…) Upper right hand corner

I was wondering if someone could translate this for me or if anyone is familiar with this certain family.

Thanks,

Martin Gonzalez

I uploaded an updated gedcom for my Romero/de la Torre line in Tepatitlan. It includes Romero y Chavez, Gomes Hurtado de Mendoza, Camarena, Pena, Romero and de la Torre in my direct line.

Linda Romero

Hello,

I am researching my paternal side of the family and came across this entry. Does anyone have any information about these people or this family in general in Mexico or thier descendants? There is a family with this name in Granada but I was not sure if they are linked. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

http://gw5.geneanet.org/sanchiz?lang=en&templ=mobile&p=manuel&n=amate+c…

Manuel Amate Cortés
Spouses and children

Married 17 September 1760, Parroquia del Sagrario - Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal, México, to Nicolasa Moreno Vala with
Andrés Amate Moreno 1762-†
Gertrudis Amate Moreno 1763-†
Francisco Ignacio Amate Moreno 1766-†
María Teresa Amate Moreno 1767-† married 1 November 1798 to José Agustín García de León
José Miguel Amate Moreno 1769-†
José Ángel Amate Moreno 1771-†
Catalina Amate Moreno 1772-†
Vicente Amate Moreno 1774-†
José Mariano Amate Moreno 1776-†

This is for the person who posted the Organization info. For some reason I can not find your topic on here.

I am looking for Santiago de la Mora who was married to Catalina Ximenes. Is this the same one you were talking about? I could use some help with this line.

Thanks,

Lisa

Diego Alonso del Pedroso (alternately, Diego Alonso Ramires del Pedroso) and Phelipa Hernandes de Rueda had (at least) three known children in Jalos (la Estancia de Coca): Juan Cayetano, Dionisio (bap. 1701), and Diego Alonso (bap. 1705). The latter two baptisms are documented.

Does anyone have any documentary evidence of the lineage of this couple? I am stuck at the moment.

Saludos,
Lawrence Bouett

Hey everybody,

Recently I have been trying to do research on the side of my family that isn't originally from the Totatiche/Temastian/Villa Guerrero area. They all come from Bolaños, Jalisco. Specifically, I've been trying to trace down my mother's Guzman branch.

Her grandfather was named Benito Guzman, born 1916 16 Jan in Bolaños, Jalisco and died 2007 23 Jun he married Aurea Ramos born in 1920, daughter of Porfirio Ramos 1895 and Mercedes Perez 1899.

Benito's father was also named Benito Guzman, and was born around 1880 and his mother was named Agapita Quintero and was born around 1887.

Other than this, I know that Benito Guzman Sr's father was named Gerardo Guzman. I had asked my grandfather and his brother if they knew the name of the mother or any other relatives but they blanked. I did find this though and my mom's uncle said the name sounded really familiar (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N811-QQR)

If it would be helpful I can provide the names and birth dates of Benito's siblings.

It's only by fate that I find myself at Nuestros Ranchos.
I took my wife to see "For Greater Glory" and came home to start researching the period. Among the numerous websites that came up on Google was NR and I was hooked.

I've been researching my maternal family (Italian) for over ten years but never had much information on my paternal side.

My paternal grandmother Dolores Villasenor was never married to the man that fathered my father. She left my father with his grandmother Martina Perez in 1924 and came to the U.S. to start a new life. She went back to Totatiche for my father in 1931. My father was raised as Rogaciano Villasenor and took the name Roy Villasenor Rodriguez when he was naturalized as a U.S. citizen during WWII. Rodriguez was the name of the man who eventually married my grandmother. My father spoke very little of the War and of his childhood in Mexico. One thing he did tell me was that we had both Spanish and Indian blood in our genes.

Time has taken it's toll on my memory, but I think my grandmother once told me that my grandfather was killed in the revolution. It was this vague memory that got me curious about this man my father never knew.

So, about three weeks ago, I went to FamilySearch and started looking. I immediately found my father as well as his older brother and sister - both listed as father unknown. Fortunately, my father's father was listed - Jesus del Real from Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecasas. At last..my family lineage is clear! Now to find out what really happened to Jesus. I can not find his death record to document his death during the Christeros.

I've been going through Jalisco records day and night ever since and have gotten a great start to my tree, going back to my 4x Great Grandparents about 1770-1790.

Please visit my folder:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/UncleRelic

Regrettably, I do not speak Spanish as my father did not want to teach us. He studied very hard to learn English. He was very proud of his WWII service, loved his adopted country, and wanted to assimilate into American life.

With great anticipation, I seek to communicate with any relatives.

Regarding the movie: It was very enjoyable to watch, provided a somewhat accurate depiction of events, but more importantly it got me to do my own research.

Best regards to all,
Roy

Hello everyone,

I would like to introduce myself. My name is Martin Gerardo Gonzalez Guzman. I am a 21 year old college student from California and have a great deal of interest in family history, especially because up until two months ago, I didn't think I had any family history.

At the moment, I am doing research on my Totatiche, Jalisco Branches, seeing as how 5/8 of my great-grandparents were born there (with another one being from Villa Guerrero and the other two from Bolanos)

Here is the research I have done so far on my great-grandfather Leodegario Gutierrez using help from the LDS site and Ancestry.com:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/Martin2g

I have more research on the way as soon as I get it all cleaned up.

Happy Research,

Martin

Tambien hablo espanol para los que no puedan hablar en Ingles.

Hi.

My name is Javier Aceves Navarro. I am from a small ranch, la Tinaja, in
Capilla de Guadalupe municipio of Tepatitlan Jalisco.
My family comes from la Presa de Gomez and are descendants of Don Antonio
de Aceves..................El Amo Aceves founder of Capilla de Guadalupe in
1820.
There are some books on this issue but the information is not complete all
the way down to our families.

TKS.

Javier

Hello,

I am wondering if anyone has the genealogy of Pascual Orozco? Know of a website etc with the information. Yes, the infamous one. He may be a great uncle and I'm trying to connect the dots. Any help help or tips greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Pauline

While searching fruitlessly through the dispensations I came upon this list of dispensations from 1879 to about 1884, in case someone is interested. I actually found the couple I'm searching for listed--but haven't been able to locate the actual dispensation.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18535-24494-56?cc=1874591&wc…

Deedra Corona

http://www.tepetongozac.com.mx/suvoz7.htm

Hola, alguien sabe como se puede saber quienes fueron los propietarios del rancho La Estancia Vieja en San Juan de los Lagos...

Se agradece cualquier ayuda...

Saludos

Thanks to my cousin Katy Brecht's outstanding research!!

Joseph de Leon

Hola Claudia ,how are you ? I hope well. I am stuck on a couple named Jose Geronimo Ramirez and Maria de Jesus Garcia . I am trying to figure out if the parents of Maria de Jesus Garcia mentioned aren't another couple with same name . Maria de Jesus Garcia and her husband Jose Geronimo Ramirez are related by el tercer grado. I am figuring that the dispensa would help to determined if if its the right parents of Maria de Jesus Garcia by comparing the location of the of the other.Jose Geronimo Ramirez and Maria de Jesus Garcia married 13 of feb. 1833 in San Juan de Los lagos-Matrimonios 1823-1841-San Juan de Los lagos Image 260.
Maria de Jesus Garcia parents mentioned in her acta de Matrimonio were Juan Garcia and Anastacia Ornelas.
A Juan Garcia and Anastacia Ornelas were married 22 of jan . 1812 in San Juan de los lagos matrimonio 1797-1823 Image #320.
The reason I ask ,they are my cousins lineage. The couple mentioned are of mulato and mestizo ancestry , I just what to verify so I know I have the right info to tell Her. I went to GuadalajaraDispensa.com and nothing is there another place to look ?
Thank you for time
Ronnie Reynoso

My parents are both from Jalpa, Zacatecas. I have been able to trace three branches of my mother’s ancestry to Bartelomo Viramontes. In fact, he is mentioned as a common ancestor in many marriage dispensation in the 1860’s that involves a Viramontes in a Jalpa marriage. I almost believe that he is the common ancestor for all Viramontes(es) that have a connection to Jalpa. Of course, that may not really be the case. My guess is that Bartelomo Viramontes did not originate from Jalpa. I would really appreciate any guidance or information on the origin of this ancestor. Based on my best calculations, he was likely born in the mid to late 1700’s. Some of his children were: Cristobal Viramontes, Jose Maria Viramontes, Gregoria Viramontes, and Juan De Dios Viramontes.

Thank you,
Maria-Elena Lopez Viramontes

#1 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15269-62570-58?cc=1410092&wc…

Upper left side.
Juana Maria Sanchez Herrera
13 Feb 1829
Father: Simon Sanchez
Mother: Celedonia Herrera
AP: Valentin Sanchez & Juana Frausto ??
AM: ?? Herrera & Guadalupe Carrasco ??
Padrinos: Ynocencio Pinedo & Micaela Pinedo

#2 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15271-32398-83?cc=1410092&wc…

Upper right side.
Jose Valente Sanches (Sanchez) Herrera
25 May 1832
Father: Simon Sanches
Mother: Celedonia Herrera
AP: Valentin Sanchez & Juana ??
AM: Francisco Herrera & Guadalupe Carrasco ??
Padrinos: Julian ?? Gonzales & Rafaela Gonzales

What's the rancho? Caquiste?

Thank you!
Laura Gonzalez

Hola! My names is Robert Martinez in Albuquerque, Nuevo Mexico. I am researching my mother's family and one of her branches reaches into the Zacatecas and Jalisco areas, with the surnames Ruiz de Esparza and Marungo. Here is my folder: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/robmartinez.

Some of my relatives were born in Sollatlan (frequently it is written as Soyatlan), Tamazula de Gordiano, Jalisco. Some come from Sollatlan de Adentro and others from Sollatlan de Afuera. Does anyone know what that means? Thanks.
Juan Manuel Carrillo Guerrero

My name is Robert Martinez and I am looking for Gertrudes Ruiz de Esparza and Agustin de Marungo who married circa 1700 in the Villa de Jerez area near Zacatecas. I am new here and my folder is at this address: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/robmartinez.

Hola todos,

I came across some baptismal certificates for relatives who were born in El Capulin, Tepetongo. Does anyone have any info on El Capulin?

Here's the relatives, in case anyone has them in their family tree.

parents: Sebastian Sanchez &​ San Pablo (Maria) Lucio

Ynocencia Sanchez Lucio
christening: 30 Dec 1851
padrinos: Bacilio Hores (?) & Teodora Valdez

Higinio Sanchez Lucio
christening: 11 Jan 1854
padrinos: Estevan Avila y Ana de la Torre

Encarnacion Sanchez Lucio
christening: 25 Mar 1855
padrinos: Josefat de Avilas (?) & Maria Valdez

Victoria Sanchez Lucio
christening: 25 Dec 1857
padrinos: Josef y Ana de la Torre
Manuel Lucio & Jesus Jaramillo

Juan Sanchez Lucio
christening: 27 Dec 1858
padrinos: Josef y Ana de la Torre

Monday, January 12, 2009

Dear Leticia--

I was hoping you were from somewhere in Jalisco because I get to vacation there from time to time and I do have some interesting genealogy and Hispanic history books to show to whomever is interested.

I was born in Victoria, British Columbia, which is located on an island on the western side of Canada. I left for the USA when I was 2 and a half. Thanks for complimenting my Spanish but I feel I still have so much more to learn.

My grandfather could speak 6 languages because he came from Eastern Europe. Unfortunately, when I took French it was not taught so I did not catch on. The books were late in arriving at my new school and all we had was the French speaking teacher and the language lab with microphones and recorded lessons. Oh well, maybe in the next life I will be given another chance.

Sincerely,
Patricia Burton

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, leticia reynoso wrote:

> From: leticia reynoso
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mucho Gusto...
> To: "s s"
> Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:57 AM
> Dear Patricia, of course I'm understand english but my
> spoken and written are not terrific..you write very well in
> spanish ,Which part of Canada did you born? because for me
> is easier to speak and write in french. I'm fom Mexico
> city...Nice to ciber-meet you, it's a pleasure to can
> help us each other. Leticia Reynoso
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