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Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 9:31 PM
Subject: Questions regarding NGGS meetings

Hello All,

We will have some new guests and prospective members attending the April
meeting. I am getting questions and some suggestions regarding our meetings,
so I thought it would be a good idea if I clarified the way our meetings run
and what to expect at the April meeting.

A suggestion from people who are too far to attend the meeting is that we
have video conferencing available. We will be using Google Hangouts for
video conferencing at this meeting. Hangouts can be installed on a laptop,
tablet, Android or iPhone. Anyone who will be joining us via Hangouts,
please let me know at least a day before the meeting and I will send you a
Hangouts invitation to join the day of the meeting.

We normally meet in a library, but this time we were unable to secure a
meeting room so we are meeting at a restaurant instead. Lunch is on your
own.

Membership is $20 per year, per person, as outlined in our Bylaws. Our
Bylaws can be accessed on our website at http://www.nuevagalicia.net. Guests
are allowed to join our meetings without becoming members once per year.
This allows you to attend a meeting and decide if you want to join as a
member or not. The money is spent on anything the Society approves. For
example, we purchased a projector and screen after the expenditure was
approved.

I hope this clarifies things for all concerned. See you in April!

Maria Cortez

Hola a todos,

¿Hay alguien que sabe quienes eran los padres de Ana Rodríguez Magdaleno (o
Madaleno o Ana Hernández) que fue esposa de Juan González de Hermosillo?

Hello,

Is there anyone that has the parents of Ana Rodríguez Magdaleno (o Madaleno
o Ana Hernández) that was the wife of Juan González de Hermosillo.

Saludos
Armando

earlier i posted a capellania for nicolas sanchez castellanos, but now i found one for someone named jose leonardo martinez del barragan, who is also from tlaltenango

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-63004-11?cc=1874591&wc…

My name is Joe Lucio and i have been researching my father history for many months now. i have pin pointed the area of Michoacanejo, Tepusco, teochaltiche, villa hildago, los pocitos as well as rancho santo, Los Garcia. my great grandfathers are Florencio Lucio & Feliciano Reyes my great grandmothers M. Santos Calvillo & Clara Calvillo i am assuming their births were around the mid 1800's my grandparents are Felipe Lucio & Maria Jesus Reyes births cold be Late 1800's My Father is Victoriano Lucio Reyes born in los pocitos 1921 also have uncles Irineo 1917 Luis 1913
Sanots 1923 antonio 1910 silverio unknown and aunt lucia unknown.

I'd appreciate any and all feed back you may have encountered in your journey's of researching family history i have been focusing more on my great grandparents and grandparent for siblings, birth location, location lived in ect.....

I thank you all for taking the time to read my intro to Nuestros Ranchos and i look forward in hearing from you.

i found this website focusing on certain lineages from jerez.
http://jerezzacatecas-salvador.blogspot.com/

i'm not sure how accurate it is though. some parts some accurate like who quitera gamboa's(spouse of pedro chavez) parents are , but this thing claims that miguel caldera had four children when his will said he only had one. it also claims that he and his sister maria are full siblings when there isn't enough evidence to make that claim. mora than likely they are half-sibling since her maiden name was cid.

Just a very quick note to all that the images for the Archdiocese of Guadalajara just got updated a few days ago. It looks to my like some dispensas got added going back to the 1560s. That could help us all a lot!

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1937239

Happy hunting!

Sean Salés

HOLA
UN CORDIAL SALUDO

ALGUIEN TIENE INFORMACION SOBRE LOS PADRES DE DONACIANO VAZQUEZ Y TERESA MENDOZA?

DONACIANO VAZQUEZ Y TERESA MENDOZA SE CASARON EL 19 DE JULIO DE 1880 MATEHUALA SAN LUIS POTOSI

SU HIJO EPIGMENIO VAZQUEZ MENDOZA SE CASO CON MARIA INES VARGAS ALVARADO
EL 1 JUNIO 1889 EN MATEHUALA SAN LUIS POTOSI.

ANGUIEN TENDRA INFORMACION ? QUE ME PODRIA AYUDAR A CONTINUAR CON ESTAS LINEAS?

SE LOS AGRADECERIA MUCHO

QUE TENGAN UN EXCELENTE DIA
SALUDOS
GRACIAS

Querido miembros del foro,

Recebí esta noticia dolorosa del Sr. Javier de Castaños y Cañedo, mi colega y el Sr. Rafael Tovar de Teresa, hermano de D. Guillermo.

"Con profundo dolor participan el fallecimiento del señor don Guillermo Tovar de Teresa, cronista emérito de la Ciudad de México, autor de obras de genealogía y un sin número de arte, fallecido el domingo 10 de noviembre en México D.F., México."

Expreso mis sinceros pésames a la família Tovar de Teresa y por la perda de un gran colega y amigo en nuestros estudos genealógicos. Él era un de los primeros en guiarme en mis investigaciones y un grande fuente de conocimiento y colaboración. Será lembrado por el amor que tenía por las artes, historia, genealogía, heraldaria y por sus libros que con mucho entusiasmo escribió.

Daniel Méndez de Torres y Camino

hola
un cordial saludo

una pregunta donde puedo encontrar el documento donde se menciona
los padres de lope ll ruiz de esparza?

En base en publicaciones en este medio y en la red donde muchos historiadores y genealogicos donde mencionan que los padres de lope ll ruiz de esparza son
Lope Ruiz de Esparza y Maria Diez de Eguinoa.

ya que en mi arbol genealogico desciendo por varias lineas de hijos de lope ll ruiz de esparza y ana franca gabay navarro y necesitaria solo esos documentos para documentarla en mis archivos y para comprobar esa relacion en mi genealogia.

si alguin me podria compartir esos archivos o bien orientarme donde o como puedo buscarlos .
se los agradezceria eternamente
saludos a todos los miembros
que tengan un buen y excelenete dia
byee

Hi Everyone,

I am very excited to join this research group! My family is from Zacatecas - I have the best memories of Mexico and my Mexican family! I feel as though this research is a way to not only learn more about my history but also a way of connecting with my family who I cherish dearly.

I am researching
Towns: Jerez, Arroyo Seco de Abajo and Tepetongo
Surnames: Acevedo, Dorado, Agilar, Sanchez, Qusada, Bonilla, Contreras, Castro, Garcia, Valenzuela, Ruelas, Moyeton

Saludos,
Xochitl

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/xochitl_cazador

Hello Everyone, does someone know what a symbol of the cross on the margin next to Baptism record signifies. Also, there is a latin phrase on this record I could not translate "sus ceper unt eg a sacrofente" I dont see it on many other records.I tried Latin translate with no luck.
Its for an ancestor,
Regina Duran
Baptised 4-17-1658
Nochistlan,Zac.
Parents Andres Duran y Juana de la Ascension
Siblings Joseph Duran 1656, Marcos Duran 1669, Diego Duran 1672,Maria Duran 1778
Also, any info with Duran Grandparents from Nochistlan going further back would be appreciated.

Thanks
Ruben Rojas Delgado

Hi Everyone,

Has anyone come across the name Moyeton in their family research? I am researching a Cruz Moyeton. I was able to find a potential match - birth certificate in Jerez, Zacatecas 1889 daughter of Juaquin Moyeton and Maria Santos Sandoval. I am having a hard time finding other links and wondering if there may be other name variations of Moyeton that I should be trying?

Thank you!
Xochitl

https://familysearch.org/blog/en/policy-change-patrons-requesting-photo…
s-family-history-library-salt-lake-city-utah/

Policy Change for Patrons Requesting Photocopies From the Family History
Library in Salt Lake City, Utah

Joseph

Joseph Puentes

Clean@h2opodcast.com

http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

From: mcortez [mailto:mcortez3@gmail.com]

Subject: April 2014 NGGS genealogy research meeting

Hello everyone,

It's been a while since I've sent meeting notices, so this list may be
outdated. Please forward to anyone I may have missed or send me an e-mail if
you want to be removed from this list.

Our next meeting is scheduled for April 26, 2014 at 11:30 am. The location
of the meeting will be:

Casa Flores Restaurant

Marina Center

3201 W. Ben Holt Dr.

Stockton, CA 95219

I am attaching the agenda and menu. (note from joseph: email Maria at
mcortez3@gmail.com for the attachments). We will be in a private room with
wi-fi access. Here is a link to the restaurant's website where you can read
about the owner's of this Restaurant. They are originally from Mezquital Del
Oro, Zacatecas and descendants of the Flores de la Torre family.

http://mycasaflores.com/ourfamilia/

We will be digging into some research, so be sure to bring a Family Group
Sheet from your tree that you would like help with. We may not be able to
cover all the sheets at this meeting, but will do so at the next one. Hope
to see you all there!

Maria Cortez

I'm trying to put together a family tree about my grandmother Maria Soledad Gutierrez.....born 1901 (?) in Arandas or Guadalajara, Jalisco area.....her parent were Jose Gutierrez and Emilia Camarena...I don't have any information about them.....I don't have any further information on her family tree...it's all a mystery... my grandmother immigrated to the U.S. in 1927 (with her sister, Guadalupe)....they had two brothers, Ramon and Miguel, who stayed in Mexico....

I would like help getting information and tracing the family tree as far back as possible.

Many thanks (Muchos Gracias)...
Patricia Lawrence

I apologize if there is a list of abbreviations used in the Catholic Church parish registers in Mexico, however, after some searching I haven't been able to locate one.

I am looking at a marriage record and after the groom's name it says "C. natural y vecino de este Pueblo soltero..." I understand all of that except "C. natural". Could someone please let me know what the "C." stands for?

I do not speak Spanish, but am trying very hard to learn to read it.

Thank you very much, I appreciate the help this group has given me.

Denise Switzer

you see i have an ancestor who sometimes is refered to as antonia avila and other times as catalina cid. have anyone else here had the same problem?

Estimados Miembros:

Tengo dos preguntas rápidas. He visto que varias personas que usan MyHeritage tienen a Juan de Guzmán, nacido en San Martin Hidalgo (ahora en Jalisco) en 1652. Dicen que es el mismo que casó con Luisa Micaela Gomez de Velasco.

1)Cómo determinaron que era el mismo Juan de Guzmán y no otro?

Sé que familysearch tiene a un Juan de Guzmán nacido en 1650 en Cocula
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N1T2-R2Q aunque no he podido localizar la imagen del acta.

2) Cómo saben que no es éste el Juan de Guzmán?

No he podido encontrar quienes fueran los padres de Juan, a pesar de buscar diligentemente evidencia documental. Lo más sólido que tengo es que nació alrededor de 1651 pues fue testigo en 1681 y dijo tener 30 años.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18404-58732-42?cc=1874591&wc…

Cualquier información será de mucha ayuda.

Gracias!

Sergio

Dear Members,
I have two quick questions. I have seen that several people who use MyHeritage have Juan de Guzman as born in San Martin Hidalgo (now in Jalisco) en 1652. They say he is the same person as the one that married Luisa Micaela de Velasco.

1)How did you determine that it is the same person and not another?

I know familysearch has a Juan de Guzmán born in 1650 in Cocula
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N1T2-R2Q but I have not been able to find the image of the record.

2) How do you know it is not the this Juan de Guzman?

I have not been able to find Juan's parents in spite of diligent searching. The most solid evidence I have is that he was born around 1651 since he was a witness at a dispensa in 1681 and said he was about 30.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18404-58732-42?cc=1874591&wc…

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Sergio

It's taken me some time to fill out my family tree, but I've updated and it posted on here today. I see that there are a lot of descendants of Antonio de Ortega Maldonado. Has anyone found anything more of that family back in Spain?

Thanks,

Erika

I have been researching Victoriano Ramirez off and on and only had success indirectly. I have his fathers' name and the father's three brothers and a sister. I have his mom's brother's name and her parents, grandparents, and so on, but not her name. I have tracked the Lopez family in san miguel el alto and his father in the vicinity of San Julian. I have where victoriano was born but not a date. Is any one researching him?
I do not descend from him that I know of though I do descend from Juan Jose Ramirez and Maria de Jesus Aseves from San Miguel el alto.

Hola a todos!

Pido información sobre las familias Acosta y Pedroza. Hay alguien en el grupo que tenga documentación adicional sobre la ascendencia de don Francisco De Acosta, y su esposa, doña Teresa De Pedroza. Es probable que se hayan casado en Aguascalientes.

Yo desciendo de esta pareja por sus hija María Micaela De Acosta, quien casó con José Tomás Muñoz González De Hermosillo en Aguascalientes. Casaron el 16 de agosto de 1769.

Paige

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-5525-10?cc=1874591&wc=…

"Ojo" literally means "eyeball," and was the record keeper's notation to
write down in the margin of the record something which he/she felt was of
importance, some fact, something of reference, an aid to memory,
regarding the event in question, which in your case was a marriage.

If I am not mistaken, i have seen the symbol of the cross, on some records,
and it may be an abbreviation for the surname "Cruz."

Cruz literally translates to "cross."

You may also find a combination of symbol and letters as an abbreviation
for a name like the given name Cristobal or Cristoval, + toval or + val.
I am not 100% on the example I just gave for cristobal, but record keepers
were creative, and some were lazy when writing records due to writers
cramp, arthritis, etc.

You may have noticed their abbreviation for the spelling of months like
9bre for "noviembre" or November, 8bre for octubre or October, 7bre for
septiembre or September, etc. Or Villa sor for "Villaseñor" or
Villasenor, as some people enter at familysearch.org, because of the
Spanish symbols are not easily entered via English keyboard.

Also these symbols or accents do not easily translate or get transferred in
Gedcom files, that is why you get "gobbly gook" in the sentence or gedcom
record.

Hope this helps, if I am wron, may another person please correct me.

Francisco Escobar

On Mar 16, 2014 3:15 PM, wrote:

I'm trying to put together a Ethnic Ancestral Lineage about my Great Grandfather Celso Barrios Aguilar (B.April 27, 1908) In Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico. His Parents Were Pedro Aguilar (B. April 26, 1870) In Tepetango, Zacatecas and Mariana Barrios (B. April 17, 1875) In Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas. Pedro's Parents Were Juan Aguilar (1837) and Maria Guadalupe Escobedo (1836) both born In Tepetango, Zacatecas, Mexico. Mariana's parents were Jose Perfecto Barrios (1835) and Maria Valenta Salazar (1856) Both also from Tepetango, Zacatecas, Mexico. Celso appears to be of African and European Descent, I'm interested in learning more about the African bloodline and which of my ancestors carried it. I searched records upon records and came up empty, I went back as far as the late 1700's on Pedro's and Mariana's family and nothing.

If anybody has any Ethnic information of Celso or his Parents, I would much appreciate the help...

Muchos Gracias,
David Martinez

I am trying to find the maternal greatgrandparents of Ignacia Correa Flores married 12 Feb 1896 in San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco to Miguel Orozco López. Their marriage document says that they had a dispensa of the 4th degree. The parents of Ignacia were José Guadalupe Correa Díaz and Agapita Flores Orozco. The parents of Agapita were Eusebio Flores and Felipa Orozco. A parent of Felipa was probably a child of Juan Antonio Roque Tello de Orozco y González and María Teresa Jiménez de Castro Ramírez married 11 Feb 1749 in Jalostotitlán since they were the tatarabuelos of Miguel Orozco López.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Armando