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From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:47 AM
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Hello,

I would like to invite you to attend a free DNA presentation on the Da Vinci
Code, DNA, & the Truth on February 22, 2014 at 2:00 pm. For more
information, please see the attached flyer. (note: contact Angel directly
for the attached flyer: angelrcervantes@gmail.com)

Best Regards,
Ángel de Cervantes
Project Administrator
New Mexico DNA Project
Iberian Peninsula DNA Project

Hello,

I recently came across a book that lists the Haciendas of Mexico and their owners circa 1883.

I seem to remember this subject coming up every so often so I'm sure there are more than one of you that will find this book interesting.

Here is the link:
https://archive.org/details/haciendasofmexic00coch

-Angelina-

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18419-4103-31?cc=1874591&wc=…

On the right side. I'm just trying to get out the basics. It's hard to read and it's late and I'm tired. ;-p

Thanks,
Laura

For the most part, the baptism records from the early 1700's do not include the name of Grandparents. Does anyone know what's the best way to continue finding the family lineage?

Angelina, what a great find! Thank you, Raul

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> I recently came across a book that lists the Haciendas of Mexico and their owners circa 1883.
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> I seem to remember this subject coming up every so often so I'm sure there are more than one of you that will find this book interesting.
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> Here is the link:
> https://archive.org/details/haciendasofmexic00coch
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> -Angelina-
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Does anyone know if there is a repository for old newspapers in Mexico. I know here in the US you can go to your local libraries to find microfilmed copies of old newspaper articles. Is there anything similar in Mexico, specifically in the state of Jalisco. Maybe the university or an archive?

Necesito su ayuda, Sabe alguien si en el Estado de Jalisco hay algun lugar donde se encuentren archivadas publicaciones viejas de revistas o periodicos, por ejemplo bibliotecas publicas, privadas, archivos historicos o librerias o bibliotecas universitarias?

Gracias de antemano,
Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

Not sure if I'm in the right area, but Hello again, all my old NR friends!
I've been away for too long (and I've seen that the membership has grown!)
I remember when this group was a Yahoo Group/Message Board. Anyway, thought I'd dust off my sign on and say hello. Also, I did the Ancestry.com DNA test and am so lost as to what to do with it.

Anyway, Hopefully you'll be seeing more of me,

Peggy Lopez (AKA Peggy Delgado)

Angelina, Mr. Cuellar,

Thank you for the information regarding my relatives. I was not aware of familysearch.org but now I doubt anyone will ever be able to get me off of it. I didn't think I'd ever be able to locate my relatives from Sonora ever and I've now gone back three generations. Next I'm going to trace my Pedroza line.

Paige

On Feb 16, 2014, at 3:08 PM, research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:

Welcome to the group Paige.  I recognized the name Zenon Villalobos because I came across it once
before when I was looking for my Villalobos ancestors, so, I did a quick search
and although I don’t descend from him, I do directly descend from his grandparents
which are my sixth great grandparents -Don José Ygnacio de Villalobos and Doña
María Antonia Josefa Ponce. It also seems like you might not be using Family
Search. You’ll be able to get much farther in your genealogical search using https://familysearch.org/ 
Pablo Villalobos like you said was born 22 Mar, 1891 in
Rancho del Refugio de Parga, Aguascalientes. He is the son of Jose Onofre Villalobos
and Juana Torres. Pablo Villalobos paternal grandparents are listed as Zenon
Villalobos and Librada Medina. His maternal Grandparents are listed as Narciso
Torres and Filomena Hernandez. Here is the link to his baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12115-88550-28?cc=1502404&…
Jose Onofre Villalobos, was born 12 Jun 1861 in Rancho de
los Alonzos, Aguascalientes. Jose Onofre Villalobos is the son of Zenon
Villalobos and Librada Medina. His paternal grandparents are Jose Mariano (Aniceto)
Villalobos and Ysabel Fonseca. His maternal grandparents are Nabor Medina and
Merced Pedroza. Here is the link to his baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11811-103720-45?cc=1502404…
Zenon Villalobos was born Jun 1820, he is the son of Jose
Mariano (Aniceto) Villalobos and Ysabel Fonseca. His paternal grandparents are
listed as Ygnacio de Villalobos and (María) Antonia Ponse. His maternal
grandparents are listed as Jose (Ygnacio) Fonseca and Maria (Ana Gertrudis)
Guebara. Here is the link to his baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11849-164245-48?cc=1502404…
Jose Mariano Aniceto Villalobos was born 17 Apr, 1795 in
Aguascalientes. His baptism says Jose Mariano Aniceto, espl, … hijo de Don
Ygnacio de Villalobos and Doña María Antonia Ponce. Here is the link to his
baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11044-118500-47?cc=1502404…
Mariano married Ysabel Fonseca 31 Aug, 1814 in Aguascalientes.
On the marriage record it lists him as Mariano Villalobos, Español, originario
y vecino de esta villa (Aguascalientes), hijo legitimo de Ygnacio Villalobos,
difunto y María Antonia Ponce: con Ysabel Fonseca, Española, orignario de
Lagos,… hija legitima de Ygnacio Fonseca y Ana Gertrudis de Guebara. Here is
the link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11566-7184-6?cc=1502404&wc…
Don Ygnacio de Villalobos and Doña María Antonia Ponce were
married 15 Sep 1781 in Aguascalientes. His marriage record lists him as Don
Jose Ygnacio de Villalobos, Español… hijo de Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos y
Doña Antonia Martinez de Sotomayor viudo de Maria de (?) Muños con Doña María
Antonia Ponce, Española, originaria y vecina de la (?) … hija legitima de Don
Juan Antonio Ponce y Doña María Gertrudis de Torres. Here is the link to their
marriage: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11782-163144-72?cc=1502404…
I’m not sure who the parents of Don Juan Antonio Ponce y Doña
María Gertrudis de Torres are. I can’t find a marriage with those names. There
is a marriage in the same time frame for a Juan Antonio de Dios Rodríguez Ponce
and a María Gertrudis de la Torre, but I’m not sure it’s the same couple.
Maybe, someone out there could confirm.
Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos’s wife Doña Antonia Martinez
de Sotomayor died Apr 1790. Her death record lists her as Doña Antonia Martinez
de Sotomayor, Española, de esta Villa, hija legitima de Don Jose Martinez de Sotomayor
y Doña Graviela Romo, defuntos, viuda de Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos. I can’t
find the parents of Don Jose Martinez de Sotomayor or Doña Graviela Romo. I
think her name is probably Gabriela Romo, but I still can’t find the parents
for her or Don Jose Martinez de Sotomayor. Maybe someone else in the forum
might know. Here is the link to her death record: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11575-76925-85?cc=1502404&…
Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos died Aug 1783. His death
certificate lists him as hijo legitimo de Don Isidro de Villalobos y de Doña
Gertrudis González de Ruvalcaba.  Here is
the link to the death record: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11575-76103-95?cc=1502404&…
Doña Gertrudis González de Ruvalcaba is the son of José
González de Ruvalcaba and Petra Díaz Montañez. Don Isidro de
Villalobos born Jan 1692 is the son of Isidro de Villalobos and Francisca
Gertrudis de Escoto y Tovar.
Isidro de Villalobos is the son of Francisco de Villalobos
and María
Vázquez de Retamosa. Francisco de Villalobos and María Vázquez de Retamosa were married 22

Hello,
I am looking for this
Bernardo Lopez Penuelas

Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
marriage:16 Feb 1697 —San Jose Y Santiago, Marfil, Guanajuato, Mexico
parents:Bernardo Lopez De La Espada, Chatarina De Penuelasspouse:Josepha De
Busto Y Xeres record title:Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950groom's name:Bernardo
Lopez Penuelasbride's name:Josepha De Busto Y Xeresmarriage date:16
Feb 1697marriage
place:San Jose Y Santiago,Marfil,Guanajuato,Mexicogroom's father's
name:Bernardo
Lopez De La Espadagroom's mother's name:Chatarina De Penuelasbride's
father's name:Nicolas De Busto Y Xeresbride's mother's name:Catharina De
Moyaindexing project (batch) number:M60817-7system origin:Mexico-ODMsource
film number:

646185

I already looked in the film but it I could not find it. Please help me

It should be around here

https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

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Joseph Puentes

Clean@h2opodcast.com

http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

I am researching the Alvarez family from the Zacatecas and Jalisco areas. I have been able to trace my lineage of this family back to an Jose Ma. Alvarez who married an Ana Francisca Campos in Zacatecas in 1836. My research has ended there as I have been unable to find the parents of eith of these two people. I am very much interested in finding them. Does anyone have these people in their family geneology? Thank you. Carol (Campos) Lester

Hello everyone! My name is Sylvia Castaneda & I've been doing my family's geneology research for about 20 years on and off. I've made the most progress in the last 6 years with my father's paternal line. He is a descendent of Antonio de Castaneda from Tlaltenango, Zacatecas. Specifically from Rancho el Durazno, which currently is located in the municipality of Atolinga, Zacatecas. He's also connected with Covarrubias, Lopez, de Avila, & Salinas from local ranchos currently located in the aforementioned municipality & Mendoza from Bolanos, Jalisco & Robles from Tlalcozahua, Huejucar, Jalisco. Also researching my father's maternal Gonzalez & Torres line which is concentrated in Tepechitlan & El Teul de Gonzales Ortega, Zacatecas. Although, I've been researching my maternal line as well, is not as developed. Llamas & Marquez are the surnames of her paternal line concentrated in Tlaltenango & Momax, Zacatecas. Her father was Benigno Llamas, municipal president of Tlaltenango during 2 separate terms. In addition, her maternal line includes Canes of Sonora & Solis of Jalisco, which I've had very little luck finding.

I'm looking forward to this new journey with you all. And...I'm super excited to see that Arturo Ramos is a member of this group. I purchased his book last year & I must say it's a godsend.

I've included a link to my folder which includes The Descendants of Antonio de Castaneda. (It is in Spanish because when I think of my ancestors I think in Spanish.) Again, mil gracias for this opportunity.

Hola Primo ,how are you ? Well I hope. I wanted to know which Escoto y Tovar Line do you descend from. I descend from Ygnacio Escoto y Tovar( and Beatriz Morales). Ygnacio Escoto is the son of Antonio Escoto y Tovar and Inez Ortiz de Rodas. Ygnacios son Juan Escoto (and Maria Ramirez(Arias de Valdez)are my connection. MY question is Ygnacios Escoto y Tovar's wife Beatriz Morales related to Ygnacios Escotos y Tovar sister in law Maria Morales (wife of Juan Escoto y Tovar Ygnacios brother) ?

Thank you for your time

Tu Primo mil veces

Ronnie Reynoso

I need 10 people to send me an email to joseph@nuestrosranchos.org and just
says if you DID or DID NOT receive an email with this subject line:

"Hospitals near Cuquio"

Remember send that message DIRECTLY to me at joseph@nuestrosranchos.org

Thanks,

Joseph

Joseph Puentes

Clean@h2opodcast.com

http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

Recently I asked if anyone had any info on the following line, but there were no takers...I am resending my earlier post, in the hopes that some someone could shed me some light on this lineage:
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Estimados colegas,
Suplico su ayuda sobre una rama que no he podido vincular.

Últimamente he estado revisando y arreglando datos sobre dos parejas con nombres muy parecidos: Nicolás Romo de Vivar (y de los Ángeles) y Mariana de Villalobos (y Carrillo de Sandi) & Nicolás Romo de Vivar (y Tiscareño) y María de Villalobos (y Martín del Campo/López de la Cruz). Veo que en mi genealogía tengo precisamente a dos antepasados con estos apellidos, pero sin vínculo a su tronco principal.
Mi rama de Romo de Vivar, hasta que tengo investigada, proviene de Jalostotitlán y San Juan los Lagos. Se trata de DIEGO ROMO DE VIVAR y MARIANA DE VILLALOBOS (mis octavos abuelos), nombres parecidos a los arriba mencionados, pero sin parentesco comprobado. No he podido superar más allá de Diego Romo de Vivar y Mariana de Villalobos. No sé donde nacieron…solo tengo fechas aproximadas. Tampoco he tenido suerte buscando entre las dispensas, porque sus descendientes se casaron con personas de Jalos y San Juan que no eran parientes.

Diego Romo de Vivar nació hacia 1688 y Mariana de Villalobos nació hacia 1692, ambos posiblemente en Teocaltiche o Aguascalientes. Se casaron hacia 1709. Tengo documentados a siete hijos, bautizados principalmente en Jalostotitlán y en San Juan de los Lagos, con la excepción de la hija #2 Beatriz, bautizada en Teocaltiche. Este bautizo, por supuesto me hace suponer que Diego Romo de Vivar y Mariana de Villalobos obviamente son de Teocaltiche, feligresía de origen de sus familias respectivas. En resumen sus siete hijos:

1. Diego Ignacio Romo de Vivar Nació hacia 1710 en Teocaltiche?, Jalisco, México
..... +Juana-Lauredia de Alba Nació: 4 Feb 1708 en Tecameca, Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México Se casaron: 15 Jun 1732 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México
Padre: Joseph de Alba - & - Madre: Águeda Casillas y González
2. Beatriz Romo de Vivar Nació: 10 Oct 1712 en Teocaltiche, Jalisco, México
..... +Francisco Xavier Álvarez Reynoso Nació hacia 1713 en San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, México Se casaron: 14 Feb 1735 en San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, México
Padre: Juan-Manuel Álvarez - & - Madre: María de Reynoso y Rentería
3. [1] Sebastián de Aparicio Romo de Vivar Nació: 3 May 1717 en San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, México Fue bautizado: 3 May 1717 en San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, México
. *1ª esposa de [1] Sebastián de Aparicio Romo de Vivar:
..... +Marcela de Velasco Nació hacia 1720 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México Se casaron hacia 1739 en San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, México
Padre: Manuel de Velasco y Orantes - & - Madre: María de Palafox y Mendoza
. *2ª esposa de [1] Sebastián de Aparicio Romo de Vivar:
..... +Inés Muñoz de la Barba Nació: 15 Jun 1712 en La Laja, Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México Fue bautizada: 30 Jun 1712 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México Se casaron: 22 Sep 1741 en Nuestra Señora de la Asunción, Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México
Padre: Lázaro Muñoz de la Barba - & - Madre: Tomasa de Jesús Sánchez de Hermosillo
. *3ª esposa de [1] Sebastián de Aparicio Romo de Vivar:
..... +Petronila de Islas Nació hacia 1735 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México Se casaron: 2 Ene 1760 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México
4. Polonia Estefanía Romo de Vivar Nació hacia 1720 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México
5. María-Margarita Romo de Vivar Nació hacia 1723 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México
6. Anna Juliana Romo de Vivar Nació: 3 Oct 1726 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México
..... +Juan-Joseph de Aceves Nació hacia 1724 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México Se casaron: 3 Feb 1745 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México
Padre: Joseph de Aceves - & - Madre: María-Teresa Gutiérrez
7. Mónica Gertrudis Romo de Vivar Nació: 29 May 1729 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, México

Disculpen que no incluya fuentes documentales en este resumen, y además los datos son de antes que los Microfilms fueran digitalizados. En el ir y venir de la vida, he estado revisando los Microfilms en línea poco a poco, buscando los documentos e integrando las fuentes cuando disponga de tiempo.

Yo desciendo de Sebastián de Aparicio Romo de Vivar (Aparicio Romo) y de su segunda esposa, Inés Muñoz de la Barba (Inés Barba). Cuando se casaron el 22 de septiembre de 1741, en Jalostotitlán, Inés era viuda de Joseph Ramírez Cornejo.
Sebastián de Aparicio Romo de Vivar e Inés Muñoz de la Barba tuvieron cuatro hijos, de los cuales yo desciendo a través de Anna-Juliana Romo de Vivar [Juliana Romo], bautizada el 24 de abril de 1747, en Jalostotitlán [nacida el 11 de abril en el Puesto de Jerusalén, Jalos]. Se casó con Antonio Gervasio Díaz de León y Trujillo [Antonio Díaz-Trujillo] el 2 de mayo de 1770 en Jalostotitlán. Antonio Gervasio [nacido el 18 de junio de 1732, en La Estancia Vieja, Jalos, y bautizado el 6 de julio de 1732] fue hijo de Felipe de Santiago Díaz de León y Trujillo (y de Loza) y de María Xaviera González Rubio (y de Araujo Mayorga).

¿Alguien sabe algo sobre Diego Romo de Vivar y Mariana de Villalobos? ¿No me pueden siquiera orientar?

Gracias de antemano...
Steven Francisco Hernández López

Did you come across anyone named Juan Anselmo Pinedo? He's my 5th GGF and lived in Jerez, Zacatecas at the time of your ancestors. He had a son named Bartolo or Bartolome Pinedo, who is y 4th GGF. Thanks, 

Chris Pineda

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  1. marriage dispensation for Maria Florencia Pinedo    and her 2nd
      husband Gervacio Rodarte (josecarlos1944@hotmail.com)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:46:40 -0800 (PST)
From: josecarlos1944@hotmail.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] marriage dispensation for Maria Florencia
    Pinedo    and her 2nd husband Gervacio Rodarte
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Thanks to my cousin Katy Brecht's research; she found this dispensation.  It was an important link because Maria Florentina Pinedo (my 4th GGM),  widow of my 4th GGF Jose Juan Fernandez, and her second husband Gervacio Rodarte.  It included a Family Trunk and named 3/4 generations pedigree.  Most importantly it identified Celedonio Fernandez my 5th GGF.  That connection enabled me to connect Erlinda Castanon-Long as my cousin.  And Erlinda's research was a fountain of connections to other cousins!  In the past two weeks I've increased my cousin count by hundreds! Some I've traced to present day.  I still have hundreds more to add.

This is the website Katy Brecht found:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18409-25043-16?cc=1874591&wc….

BTW, the only 2 browsers that work are either Google Chrome or FireFox Mozilla.

Thanks to my cousin Katy Brecht and to Erlinda Castanon-Long!

Jose Carlos de Leon

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Grandmother Guadalupe Davila/Avila, 1/Oct 1902, Villa Del Refugio,ZAC.(married to Angel Villegas) was one of 10 daughters born to Nicolasa Flores, 20 Dec 1885, Plateado and Librado Avila, 7 Nov 1881, Santiago, ZAC who was killed during the Revolution. She came to the USA as a teenage mother and her family remained in Mexico. I can not locate information about these sisters except for her oldest sister Francisca, 16 Apr 1901, Villa Del Refugio. What sources might provide information on the other 8 sisters? Thanks. Evie

Today's Topics:

1. Re: Canuta Padilla Gallo (adrianmapa50@yahoo.com.mx)

Saludos a Ezequiel y Adrian,

Con mi primo, Ezequiel ya he comunicado varias veces. Yo tambien soy bisnieta de Benigno Gutierrez Padilla, hijo de Maria Canuta Padilla Gallo y Jose Ana Gutierrez Gtz. Podremos compartir imformacion si gustan. A los Gutierrez del Aguila, La Estancia Vieja y los Padilla los he estado estudiando desde hace mucho.

Irma Gomez Gtz
California

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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:28:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: adrianmapa50@yahoo.com.mx
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Canuta Padilla Gallo
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Adri?n M?rquez Padilla

Me gustaria confirmar si tu bisabuelo Benigno Guti?rrez Padilla, era hermano de Norberto Padilla Guti?rrez, esposo de Librada Gutierrez, de ser asi me gustaria contactar contigo para intercambiar datos.

Saludos

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:26:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: gutierrez_ezequiel777@hotmail.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] benigno gutierrez padilla
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Hola Adrian gusto en saluarte, y te confirmo que mi bisabuelo benigno gutierrez y Norberto Gutierrez si fueron hermanos, y como bien tu dices Norberto caso con Librada Gutierrez y aunque tal vez ya tienes esta informacion te la doy por si acaso no fuera asi. Norberto es de el 7 de junio de 1865 y caso con Librada el dia 12 de febrero de 1890 en jalos. ella era hija de Evaristo Gutierrez y de Maria Melquiades Gonzales. Y como informacion complementaria te platico que esta Maria Melquiades Gonzales era hermana de mi bisdabuelo Juan Gonzales por el lado materno de mi papa. saludos y con gusto compartiere lo que poseo de informacion Adrian cuando tu gustes saludos

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I am looking to find the names of towns which had hospitals (near Cuquio) that were around in the 1930's.

Many thanks!

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Received test messages 1 and 2 (Juan Correa)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:52:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Juan Correa
To: "announce@nuestrosranchos.org"
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Received test messages 1 and 2
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Received test message

? ?Juan Carlos

On Monday, February 10, 2014 3:36 AM, Linda wrote:

Received test messages 1 and 2

Everything A-OK here.

Linda

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 07:16:55 -0600
From: Armando
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Test: for Joseph; General Test:
??? for Joseph; Announce Test: for Joseph
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I am sending out a test message to all three email distribution lists and
they will have this subject line: Research Test: for Joseph; General Test:
for Joseph; Announce Test: for Joseph

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 05:52:47 -0800 (PST)
From: George and Rosalva Jordan
To: "Announce@nuestrosranchos.org"
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Announce Test 3: for Joseph
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Test
Y-DNA: J2b1b (Formerly J2e2/J2b2)
mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1a
FTDNA Kit: 48584
YSearch: PEEH3
Mitosearch: WFSBR

Armando,

I just went through the link you cited. Its helpful . I better get going getting test for my parents as they are both only children.
Thank you,
Gilbert Arguelles

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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: $99 DNA test (Gilbert Arguelles)
> 2. Re: $99 DNA test (Armando)
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>I ordered the Comprehensive Genome test and joined the project that was
>mentioned on the list.
>
>Would I be able to verify that any connection to you or Gloria through
>the
>test?
>
>Since both my parents are still living (86 & 90 years old) would it be
>a
>clearer picture overall if I tested them too with the $99 tests?
>
>
>Message: 2

>Hello Gilbert, in order to know if you, Joseph, and Gloria having
>autosomal
>markers in common they would also have to get a Family Finder test.
>Even if
>they get the test there is no guarantee they are going to show as
>matches
>even if they truly are related to you. Not all markers are passed down
>from
>all of your ancestors. If they do show as matches then they are
>possibly
>related to you. Having other people with some of the ancestors showing
>up
>as matches on the same segment of a specific chromosome will help raise
>the
>likelihood being related through the line that is in common in all of
>you/
>
>See the following article for an example.
>
>http://dna-explained.com/2013/06/21/triangulation-for-autosomal-dna/
>
>Having your parents test could help prove which side of the family your
>matches are related to you. If you, one parent and a third person all
>have
>markers in common in a certain segment of a certain chromosome then it
>is
>that side of the family that you are likely related to the third
>person.
>It's a process of elimination with the help of known relatives and
>others
>with shared trees and all getting the Family Finder test that help show
>an
>extreme likelihood of being related.
>
>Saludos,
>Armando
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>> Would I be able to verify that any connection to you or Gloria
>through the
>> test?
>>
>> Since both my parents are still living (86 & 90 years old) would it
>be a
>> clearer picture overall if I tested them too with the $99 tests?