It's very interesting and a first for me. All I can make out are the names.
Can anyone tell what language is used in these Huichapan, Hidalgo baptism records?
Perhaps one of the many languages spoken then and now in the different areas of Spain.
Thanks so much, Alice
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-11711-26828-50?cc=1410092&wc…
Hello,
There are no marriage records available for Talpalpa. There are "Matrimonial Information" records--but only for Indios. Does anyone have a clue where to locate marriage records from this area?
Thank you,
Deedra
Does anybody in the group have a copy of Esteban Valdes Salazar's pamphlet on Saint Cristobal Magallanes Jara's genealogy? I know that somebody in the group shared a scan of the cover with me early on... but I was wondering if someone had the content as well... particularly the Magallanes side. I have the Jara side from Esteban Valdes' Jaras de Totatiche book going pretty far back... That is available in my online database if anyone is interested:
http://www.ramosfamily.org/nextgen/pedigree.php?personID=I730
I know a lot of people in this group have lived or traveled in Jalisco and the Los Altos region. Sadly, I am not one of them. I am curious if anybody recognized any of the locations that appeared in the film "For Greater Glory"? I tried searching on the Internet for specific information regarding filming locations but nothing turned up. I read some of the battles were filmed at actual locations. Also, what happened to the expert on the Cristero Rebellion, Steven Hernandez? He did a Masters thesis on it. I would love to hear his opinion about the film. I remember a long time ago he would leave posts on Nuestros Ranchos that were really interesting.
I contacted Family Search about a batch of Defunciones that they didn't upload. They said they would talk to their people about it.
They also told me:
"Would you like to learn about new features and updates to FamilySearch? A series of seminars detailing changes to FamilySearch and how to use the new features will be presented for our patrons. Here is the link to a seminar to be held Tuesday, June 19. This link gives the particulars: Presented by Robert Kehrer; https://familysearch.org/blog/robert-kehrer-presents-familysearch-webin…
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
Estoy en proceso de publicar la información de mi árbol genealógico a través de mi página personal, la cual contiene información de diversos estados como Jalisco, Zacatecas, Michoacán, y más.
Comparto esta información, pues me daría bastante gusto saber si alguno de los miembros de Nuestros Ranchos tiene alguna relación con mi árbol genealógico, y así continuar actualizando/enriqueciendo nuestra investigación.
Particularmente yo he logrado conectar mi árbol con la genealogía de dos miembros de Nuestros Ranchos. A ellos estaré enviándoles un mensaje para compartirles el hallazgo, así como dándoles merecido crédito y reconociéndoles, con su autorización, como fuentes de información en mi genealogía.
Pueden consultar mi página en la siguiente dirección:
www.genealogia.proyecto30cero.com
Si tienen alguna pregunta o comentario, les agradeceré me lo hagan saber.
¡Espero que todos continúen teniendo bastante éxito en su búsqueda!
¡Saludos!
Jorge Chipres
Hi
I sometimes see this phrase:
EXPUESTO Y CRIADO EN LA CASA
What does it mean in English?
For whoever can help me with it, thanks!
Denise
I hope this is the correct place to post a subject for assistance/discussion.
There is an entry for my maternal GGGG grandfather Ignacio Delgadillo in the following location:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18410-4495-8?cc=1874591&wc=1…
which begins on image 164 with a couple torn/pasted pages and continues to image 174 on the left page. I understand there was an issue with infidelity and separation of several years but cannot read enough to understand what other details are in the doument or final disposition. Also, cannot find names of other persons in the document that would give any information or clues to other famdily members. I saw the term 'desavenencia' toward the end but not sure if the marriage was dissolved. If anyone has the time to look at this, any light on the issue is greatly appreciated.
The movie brought back some memories of my Garcia-Vallejo families stories of that era and how it affected them. Most of both familes left their towns during this horrific period. My parents were teenagers and left only 5 months before this war ended. I knew that they had been married a few days before they left for California to join their people here. My mother, when we ask, stated that they were married very quietly and secretively by a priest away from their home in Teocaltiche. She explained that it was a time when the churches were closed. Before the movie I took an interest and began Google searches to learn more. I saw pictures that moved me to tears and I began to realize what my family had survived. My mother's father Andres a few year later left to return to Mexico to seek his land that he had left who knows who in charge of things. Sadly the outcome was something he had feared; they had lost their land. He must have been heartbroken because he died there
shortly never to return to his family in Calif. I was not born yet. I feel such saddness realizing how they continued their life here, starting over. But I also better understood what made them so strong in their beliefs, in the future and of course their faith. I admire my ancestors so very much and try to live with the strength that I inherited.
As for the movie, I was glad I got to see it. It was so real, so passionate and an example of good and evil. Nothing justifies what Callas mandated, nothing.
Carmen Meraz Garcia Vallejo
My name is Raul Bracamonte Munoz and I'm thrilled to be a new member of the Nuestros Ranchos familia.
While my research takes me to many places within northern Mexico, a key focus area for me is Villa de Cos and the surrounding haciendas. I also have an interest in Sierra Hermosa, Jerez, Fresnillo, and the city of Zacatecas.
Within these areas of Zacatecas, the primary family names I am researching are: Munoz, Vasquez del Mercado, Rodriguez and Sanchez.
Before 1850, I also have an interest in Rodarte, Gonzalez de Solis, Martinez de Orosco, Ruiz de Chavez, Caldera, Romo de Vivar, Carrion, Delgadillo, Castrejon, Campa y Cos, de Avila, and Marin.
Please feel free to review my folder with descendant charts that include many of these names.
When researching film, I typically concentrate on older files that have not been indexed. So if you would like me to keep an eye open for family members you may be researching, please feel free to let me know.
I'd also like to note that I make every effort to only place individuals in my family tree if I have direct and conclusive evidence that supports the relationship. Happy to show my work if there are any questions regarding individuals found in my files. There are a few exceptions within the Rodarte family.
Other than familysearch.org and ancestry.com, if anyone can recommend any other sites that provide records for my focus area, please let me know.
Thank you.
The scribe at this church has interesting penmanship, that I am having a hard time reading.
Marriage of Jose María Romo and Sirilda Santos (hard to read document)
10 Mar 1820
El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11709-81325-1?cc=1410092&w…
I hope that the link works..
information is on pages 30-218 to 31-218
I cannot read their parents names clearly:
Pedro Romo-father
? -mother
where in the city?
which Rancho did Sirilda/Cirilia Santos come from?
Florencino? Santos-father
? - mother
Maybe I am trying too hard, my eyes are crossed...
Thank you,
Debra Perez
Hola amigos del foro, hoy encontré un dato nuevo para uno de mis ancestros. Juan de la Cámara y Menoyo aparece como Capitán Juan de la Cámara y Menoyo en un documento, en el que también se menciona que es Teniente del pueblo de Jalpa. En dicho documento aparece como Juez Receptor, junto con algunos testigos de dicho pueblo.
Me gustaría saber si hay algún fondo documental donde buscar más información, sabiendo que una persona tenía ciertos cargos en algún pueblo o ciudad.
No encuentro el nombre de sus padres, ni tampoco los de su esposa María Flores de la Torre, vecinos de Jalpa. Gracias.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco, México.
The following is what I received from one of the California Missions of my ancestors on their marriage:
On May25th, 1859 Francisco Carrizosa 34, native of Tujuta Son. residing in el Rancho of San Jose, widower of Jesus Celaya of Jose & Pabla (Paula) Gastelo with Micaela Manzanero, 36 widow of Franco. Bustamante also of sonora of Pedro & Concepcion Ortiz, living in S. Jose, Ramon Andrade & Maria del Carmen Guillen witness.
I am not sure who Jose & Paula Gastelo are related to. Are they the parents to Francisco Carrisosa or to Jesus Celaya? The other question is, is the surname Gastelo the maiden name to Paula and assuming Jose's surname is Carrisosa or Celaya? I have the same questions for Pedro & Concepcion Ortiz.
Thank you. Anna Miklovic
Hola, I was wondering if anyone knew when Ysabel Miramontes and Andres Martines Correa got married. i cant find their info, they lived in tlaltenango in the 1600's, any help is appreciated
In the "Files" tab, "Reference Materials"
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/20642
Does somebody have any further information (marriage date, parents' names) for the following couple who lived in Colotlan, Jalisco in the early 1700s?
Hay alguien en el grupo que tenga mayor informacion (fecha de matrimonio, nombre de padres) de la siguiente pareja que vivio en Colotlan, Jalisco a principios del siglo XVIII?
GENERATION 1
1. Felipe MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIVOS
m. Francisca Xaviera SANCHEZ
Children:
2. Francisco Xavier MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIVOS
3. Joseph MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIVOS
4. Joseph Antonio MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIVOS
GENERATION 2
2. Francisco Xavier MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIVOS
m. Maria Narcisa SANCHEZ CASTELLANOS 22 Feb 1751, Tlaltenango,
Zacatecas
Children:
5. Jose Felipe Atanacio MARQUEZ SANCHEZ
6. Jose Dionicio MARQUEZ SANCHEZ b. 1762; c. 28 Feb 1762, Tlaltenango,
Zacatecas
7. Maria Gervacia MARQUEZ SANCHEZ b. 1753.
8. Thomas Antonio MARQUEZ SANCHEZ b. 1752.
9. Joseph Julian MARQUEZ SANCHEZ b. 1755.
10. Josepha Martina MARQUEZ SANCHEZ b. 1771; c. 01 Apr 1771, Colotlan, Jalisco
11. Francisco Xavier MARQUEZ SANCHEZ b. 1757; c. 24 Nov 1757, Colotlan, Jalisco
12. Juana Maria MARQUEZ SANCHEZ b. 1765; c. 24 Jun 1765, Santa Maria
Mecatabasco, Zacatecas
3. Joseph MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIVOS
m. Simona RAMIREZ 01 Nov 1735.
4. Joseph Antonio MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIVOS (1.Felipe1)
m. Juana Francisca GAMBOA 03 Mar 1726, Colotlan, Jalisco
Hi everyone,
The adventure to finding my family roots continues!
Any tips that you might share will be appreciated.
I am taking baby steps with my Roque family.
(I have posted another intro with family from Jerez, Zacatecas)
Debra Perez
I did find records that listed Ojo de Agua, Aguascalientes and I know of records at
El Senor Del Encino. I was lucky to visit Aguascalientes with my Grandfather and Grandmother ages ago when I was a teen. Both of them have now passed on.
Pedro Roque abt.1884 married around 1903 Telesfora Urzua abt.1887
Bonifascico Roque abt.1903
Calletana Roque abt.1904
Maria Roque abt. 1905
Juan Urzua Roque abt. 1907
Romulo Roque abt. 1907
xxx
xxxx
Maria Isabel abt. 1918
Jesus Uruza Roque abt. 1920
Pedro Roque abt. 1925
xxxxx
Andres Roque abt.1931
Hi
I have been searching for some time for any reference to Don Raphael Romo. Now I have totally by chance found a person with that name (including the title). For anyone else with this name in their records (or any of the others in the subject line), here are the details (question marks indicate an abreviation I am unsure of, but think it means village or something along those lines):
Mexico Catholic Church Records, AGS Calvillo, Senor San Jose, Matrimonios, 1772 - 99, image 15
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11613-124739-6?cc=1410092&…
21 Aug 1773 Marriage of
DON GABRIEL NARCISO DE VILLALOBOS, native and resident of this village (?), in the hacienda of Santos (?), legitimate son of Don Ygnacio de VILLALOBOS, deceased, and Dona Feliciana Manuela LOPEZ DE NABA
and
Dona LUISA ROMO DE BIBAR, native and resident of this village (?) in Santa Gertrudis, legitimate daughter of Don Joseph Miguel Romo de Bibar, deceased, and Dona Ysabel Rosaura LOPEZ DE NABA....
DIPSENSATION GIVEN FOR 2ND DEGREE COSANGUINITY
Testimonies given by Don RAPHAEL ROMO DE BIBAR and Don PEDRO ROMO, residents of this valley, and Don Fernando Diaz of Aguascalientes.
PADRINOS:
Don Antonio Doroteo de VILLALOBOS
Dona Leonor FLORES DE LA TORRE (? a little hard for me to read the surname)
Regards,¨
Denise
Hi
I have ealier seen an interest in the name Antonio Romo, so here is a reference to him (or, one of the Antonio Romos of the area!)I recently found:
Mexico Church Records, AGS, AGS, Sagrario, baptisms 1781 - 86, image 103
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11810-117282-3?cc=1410092&…
Baptism on 22 Jan 1784 of:
JOSE MARIA YGNACIO, espanol, born in this villa, the 11th of the current month, legitimate son of:
FRANCISCO GUERRERO and
MARIA DIAZ
Padrinos:
ANTONIO ROMO and
MARIA JACINTA LOPES DE NABA
Incidentally, I put the name Maria Jacinta Lopes de Naba into family search, and her marriage with Antonio (Manuel Antonio) Romo showed up:
"Mexico, Marriages, 1570-1950," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JZKC-4LB : accessed 13 June 2012), Maria Jasinta Lopez De Naba, 1772.
So then I looked up this record just on a WHIM (Its nice to be able to FIND something your looking for...even when its not something you are actually looking for!) and on the page opposite I found a reference to a Don RAPHAEL ROMO (is my long quest almost over?), Don PEDRO ROMO and Dona LUISA ROMO. That info will be in a separate post...
Regards
Denise
Where can I locate a listing or map of the Old Haciendas that used to exist around Amatitian, Jalisco.
I am trying to find information on my husband's maternal grandfather, Emilio Valdivia. His father was Tomas Valdivia, and his mother was Secundina Ramos. Does anyone have these names in their family tree?
Emilio Valdivia was in the seminary in Totatiche at the time of the Cristero War, and had to leave to avoid being killed. He immigrated to Southern California.
We cannot locate any information regarding Emilio's family. I don't know if he was from the area around Totatiche or somewhere else. We have heard that he might have been from an area in Zacatecas that wasn't too far from Totatiche. Knowing nothing of the area, I have no idea where that might be.
Does anyone know anything about any Valdivia families around Totatiche, or are there any Valdivia's in Southern Zacatecas? Can anyone give me any ideas of how to research the family of Emilio Valdivia?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Kathy Hargrove Gutierrez
Thanks Armando for this valuable information. I already checked the marriage certificate!
Best,
Gabriela
On Jun 12, 2012, at 6:07 PM, research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:
I have not had a chance to see this film yet, as I was out of town (in a rather rural area of MA).
Has anyone seen this film since it's June 1st opening? If so, can you provide a review?
Thanks.
Natalie Coleman
Hi
Here is the baptismal record of Maria Guadalupe Romo. I am in serious doubt about the name of the place, as a google search does not turn it up. If anyone has the time to check out the link to the image and correct what might be a mistake, I would much appreciate it.
Regards,
Denise
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11810-117977-65?cc=1410092…
Mexico Catholic Church Records, AGS AGS Sagrario, Baptisms 1781 - 86 image 110.
Baptism 10 March 1784
Maria Guadalupe espanola, born at Puenta de las Tortugas (?), 27 febr., legitimate dau. of
Pablo Martinez and
Gertrudis Romo,
residents of said Puenta
Padrinos
Manuel Alonso de los Ynojos
Gertrudis Romo
I have been working in the last months searching the family roots of my mother's mother. Here are my findings. I hope this information is helpful (source: family search). Please let me know if you have any information about Joseph de Udave. I would like to know who are his parents. It seems the last names of this part of my family came from the Basque Country; de Udave, Ruiz, Esparza and Romo?
1 Joseph de Udave b: Abt. 1710
+Marzela de Esparza m: 10 Sep 1730 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
2 Francisco Xavier Maximiano Udave Esparza b: 06 Jun 1749 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
2 Juan Fernando Maximiano de Udave Esparza b: 06 Jun 1749 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
+Maria Josefa Romo b: 1759, d: 07 Aug 1839 in Aguascalientes, Mexico
3 Juana Maria de Udave Romo b: 21 May 1797
3 Jose Francisco Udave Romo b: 24 Dec 1794 in Nuestra Senora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche,
Jalisco, Mexico
3 Maria Angela Udave Romo b: 24 Oct 1790 in Nuestra Senora de Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco,
Mexico
3 Apolinario de Udave Romo b: Abt. 1801 in Callvillo, Aguascalientes, Mexico
+Ignacia Ruiz Lopez m: 1827 in Calvillo, Aguascalientes, Mexico
4 Modesto Eudave Ruiz b: 1828 in Calvillo, Aguascalientes, Mexico, d: 1878
+Josefa Lopez Cervantes b: 1830 in Villa del Refugio, Tabasco, Zacatecas, Mexico, m: 15 May
1863 in Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Villa del Refugio, Zacatecas, Mexico, d: 1902
5 Horacio Eudave Lopez b: 1867 in Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Villa del Refugio, Zacatecas,
Mexico
+Rosaura Rodriguez Sandoval b: 08 Oct 1866 in Santa Maria Mecatebasco, Villa del Refugio,
Zacatecas, Mexico, m: Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Villa del Refugio, Zacatecas, Mexico
6 Ruben Eudave Lopez (Rodriguez) b: 11 Jan 1891 in Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Villa del Refugio,
Zacatecas, Mexico, d: 13 Nov 1946 in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico
+Carolina Prieto Gutierrez b: 04 Nov 1894 in Canelas, Durango, Mexico, d: 26 Feb 1986 in
Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico
7 Carolina Eudave Prieto b: 04 Apr 1923 in Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico, d: Abt. 1984 in
Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico
+Rene Rendon Lozano b: 1920 in Cadereyta, Nuevo Leon, Mexico, m: 21 Nov 1942 in
Cadereyta Jiménez, Nuevo Leon, Mexico, d: 15 Aug 1954 in Ciudad Victoria, Tamaulipas,
Mexico
8 Laura Carolina Rendon Eudave b: 27 May 1951 in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico
Thanks!
Gabriela