I was researching Arch de la Parr. de Pinos, Zacatecas 1790-1803, listed as Castas....
The last entry for bapts. is 18 apr 1798...then it starts 11 Feb 1793 with marriages. I did not check to see how many years. I am sure some people have not been able to find their ancestors. Hope this helps.
I did not know where to put this information.
Mickey
Esther I can be there at 10 tomorrow August 4?
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> I am looking for someone that is willing to look up the surname San Martin Y Estrada in two books:"The Econmenderos of New Spain 1521-1555" by Robert Himmerich y Valencia and "Cartas Privadas de Emigrantes a Indias 1540-1616" by Otte Enrique. Your help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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> Himmerich y Valencia and "Cartas Privadas de Emigrantes a Indias
> 1540-1616" by Otte Enrique. Your help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I thought the Bonita location no longer houses films? I've been looking for information on el tuito and tomatlan. Thanka
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> Alice, The Bonita Library where I work has many films from Ayo El Chico.
> If you have some names and birth dates I could look them up tomorrow.
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>> Hi, Alice,
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>> that place is now called Ayotlan.
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>> Emilie
>> Port Orchard, WA
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>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:23:49 -0700
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>>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ayo El Chico, Jalisco
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>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> Could someone please tell me if late 1700's church records for Ayo El
>> Chico, Jalisco are available online? I've been unable to locate them using
>> that name. Thanks so much for your help. Alice
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Just an FYI that the DVD for "The Storm That Swept Mexico" is being sold on pbs.org.
This is boring for most members but I have not been able to decipher most of the information in the following that is discouraging at first because images of torn and faded pages make it extremely useless to continue perusing, BUT subsequent images are more readable and I would greatly appreciate any comments on the actions taken by the church in this matter:
There is an entry for my maternal GGGG grandfather Ignacio Delgadillo in the following location:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18410-4495-8?cc=1874591&wc=1…
which begins on image 164 with a couple torn/pasted pages and continues to image 174 on the left page. I understand there was an issue with infidelity and separation of several years but cannot read enough to understand what other details are in the doument or final disposition. Also, cannot find names of other persons in the document that would give any information or clues to other famdily members. I saw the term 'desavenencia' toward the end but not sure if the marriage was dissolved. If anyone has the time to look at this, any light on the issue is greatly appreciated, and any insight on where to continue searching for more information on these ancestors of mine. If you think I should drop the subject altogether, please do not hesitate to relay that message. Thanks in advance!
Juan Angel Covarrubias son of Juan Covarrubias and Rosa Cobian married Maria Rosa Santana daughter of Pio Santana and Maria Castillo on February 6, 1773 in Tecolotlan, Jalisco. My ultimate goal is to trace them back to Spain but for now I would like to find their birth place. The only document I can find for them is their marriage certificate and I would like help deciphering it because it is so difficult to read. I think is says Juan Angel is "Esp. de España" but it hard to read.
Here is their marriage record: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18715-11863-42?cc=1874591&wc…
Their entry is the second entry after 1773 on the left page. It is of course the lightest entry on the page. This is what I was able to decipher. If you read something different please let me know.
At the margin - Juan Angel Rosa Maria españoles de este pueblo
En 6 de febrero de 1773: se casaron y velaron enfacie ecclesite Juan Covarrubias esp de españa hijo de Juan Covarrubias y Rosa Cobian=Rosa Santana esp de este hija de Pio de Santana y Maria Castillo…then the same religious wording that all the other records have.
Greetings:
Need help in locating where is La Montesa, filegresa de pinos, Trying to locate baptismal for Agapito Aguilar Yzquierdo. Some of my records,that I have found in Cienega de Mata. Jalisco, state, this location And Also Same Family as being from el Xaral del Valle, I've been try to locate these places for a long time without sucess. Please, Please Help. Thank You very much in advance
Mary Caraveo
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Hi everyone,
I'm so excited because I found my great great grandmother's baptismal certificate, now we move into Huejucar, Jalisco, when just about everyone else was from Zacatecas.
This is her baptismal certificate (bottom left side):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18455-33928-21?cc=1874591&wc…
Parents:
Toribio Galvan
Margarita Marquez
Paternal grandparents:
Leon Galvan
Leonides ??
Maternal grandparents:
Antonio Marquez
Nasaria Villegas
However, her parents' marriage record looks to have different names (upper right).
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18688-39540-92?cc=1874591&wc…
Paternal grandparents:
Leon Galvan
Leonora ??
Maternal grandparents:
Antonio Marquez
Nasaria Flores??
Also, this appears to be Toribio's second marriage, he's a widower of Anacleta Sandoval?? Are the people at bottom the padrinos and witnesses?
Thanks!
Laura
HOLA MUY BUEN FIN DE SEMANA A TODOS Y SIGO CON MI INVESTIGACÍON Y ME GUSTARÍA SABER QUE ES LO QUE DICE EN ESTE MATRIMONIO PARA LOGRAR SABER SI ES MI LINEA ? SI HAY ALGUIEN QUE ME PUEDA AUXILIAR LO AGRADECERÉ INFINITAMENTE.
ESTE ES EL LINK.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18564-59511-28?cc=1874591&wc…
What's the difference besides extra info? Why the difference?
Thanks,
Laura Gonzalez
i'm lookimg for any one that has info on the luna family in momax
The new Matrimonial Dispensations posted today #168133, Image 398,
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18416-25472-12?cc=1874591&wc…
lists the parents of Alejo Rafael Pelayo as: Miguel Pelayo (AKA Miguel Cayetano Pelayo) and Angela Lucia Vidro. It also gives the Tree, I'm assuming Lopez family, for the father of the bride, Nicolas Lopez and Angela Lucia--I've seen several other trees from our group with Angela Lucia being the deadend. Now it looks like this may be a clue.
It lists her mother as Francisca, grandmother as Lucia Lopez, and GGrand as Antonio. I did locate a baptism for Lucia Lopez (28 December, 1670 in Tuxcacuesco, but no Lazaro Lopez with the same parents. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated--this carrot is a bit frustrating!
Deedra Corona
I came across a very long record of 35 pages in case someone is looking:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18414-51863-24?cc=1874591&wc…
Gracias al esfuerzo de Claudia Casillas de indexar las dispensas matrimoniales de la Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara, en las publicaciones que ha hecho este mes, logré avanzar en dos lineas que tenía pendientes.
Logré establecer quienes eran los padres de Jacinta de Villalobos, mujer de Agustín Marín de Peñaloza. Resulta que es hija de Pedro Villalobos y Catalina Rubio, vecinos de Teocaltiche. Ahora solo me falta saber quienes eran los padres de Agustín Marín de Peñaloza.
También logré descubir que Antonia de Anda Altamirano, la mujer de Esteban Rodríguez de Asocar, es hija de Juan de Anda Altamirano y de Catalina Rodríguez de Salcedo.
Mi más grande y sincero agradecimiento a Claudia Casillas por su gran labor. GRACIAS.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco, México.
Hello,
I am looking for the ancestors of Ana Macias Valadez. She married Miguel Romo de Vivar Villalobos on 28 February 1725 in Aguascalientes according to a form submitted by an LDS member batch 7411353 sheet 50 source call number 0935401. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=…
I can't find the record in the online images. Since Miguel Romo de Vivar Villalobos is a great grandson of Catarina Macias Valadez there could've been a dispensation for the marriage. Does anyone have information on her?
Thanks in advance
Hola a todos,
Busco a los ancestros de Ana Macias Valadez. Se casó con Miguel Romo de Vivar Villalobos en 28 de febrero 1725 en Aguascalientes según la siguiente página http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=…
Como Miguel Romo de Vivar Villalobos era bisnieto de Catarina Macias Valadez existe la posibilidad que hubo una dispensa. ¿Hay alguien que tiene información sobre ella o su matrimimonio?
Gracias de antemano,
Armando
Does anyone know where Gargantillo, Jalisco is or where it is near so I can do my research? Maybe a church or town I can look in Thank you very much.
Anisabel
Help...what is a GEDCOM...where do i get it..and how does that help my research....im building my tree on the family tree maker and want to bring the info over to nuestros ranchos to share,,,but i really dont want to retype all that info..thanks in advance
Does anyone know where mid 1800's Agostadero, Aguascalientes nacimientos or baptisms would be found? Are they included with Asientos? Thanks so much for your help. Alice
I have this copy of the Baptism of my great great granfather name "Patrico Madera" who was borin in Rancho Ximulco of Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico and baptised in the Parroquia of San Diego de Alcala Church. I attached with it a cartoon as to what I imagine my great great grandfather looked like with the style of clothing worn back then (That is how I would dress). He has facial features of some of my present relatives and even me:
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7546/patriciomaderaximulcohu.jpg
My great great grandfather Patricio Madera is the son of Juan Venancio Madera, "Espanol" of Rancho De Los Maderas - one of the several Ranchos in the vicinity of the pueblo of Huejuquilla. Juan was born around 1764 in Rancho De Los Maderas of Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico and is the son of Francisco Madera of Rancho De Los Maderas.
Patrico had a son name Calixto Madera De La Paz who is my great grandfather.
From what I was told from a distant cousin that also likes geneology research, that our great great grandfather Patricio Madera wore a colonial triangular shaped hat. I don't know what the term is used for that type of hat. Do any of you know?
Hello
Desperately seeking the marriage record (image) of
Leonardo Romo and Josefa Trinidad.
They are padrinos for a child of Manuel Romo and Maria Ygnacia Rodriguez, and I would very much like to see who the parents of Leonardo are.
Family search gives their marriage as follows:
04 Feb 1824
Nuestra Senora De La Victoria,Nadadores,Coahuila,Mexico
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JZJB-ZQB
But when I go to the book for marriages at that place and time, the entry is not there:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11594-41481-92?cc=1410092&…
Am I looking in the wrong place? The film number is 222404, but the first image of this series of records does not provide the image...
Any good advice?
There are lots of Raphael Romos in and around Aguascalientes, and I am still trying to find out which one was the father of Manuel Romo, resident of Nadadores/San Buenaventura, but originally from Aguascalientes, he was my direct ancestor. Finding out info about Leonardo may help....there were several with that name in Family Search, so I really need to see the image!
Regards,
Denise
Does anyone know of any good books about the history of Zacatecas, either English or Spanish, but English preferred. I came across "The North Frontier of New Spain" by Peter Gerhard, but it's out of print and very expensive. I'm particularly interested in reading about families of Zacatecas.
Thanks,
Laura Gonzalez
I am posting this to see if anyone in our group is possibly related to any of my husbands family. I was able to find my husband Pablo Jauregui Romo's baptism in familysearch.org and a little information on his parents, still searching for his grandparents documents. Thanks for taking a look at the information below:
Pablo Jauregui Romo b: 23 Jun 1961 El Molina, Jalisco d: 18 May 1996 Ontario, California
Parents:
Enemorio Jauregui Delgadillo aka Nemesio or Enemesio b:7 Sep 1938 Mendocina, Jalisco
Micaela Romo 1941 Jalostotitlan, Jal
Grandparents as follows: Mateo Jauregui abt 1910 Jal – abt 1970 Teocaltiche
Prisciliana Delgadillo abt 1910 Jal - ?
Parents of Mateo: Eusebio Jauregui 1880 Jalisco
Petronia unk last name, abt 1885 Jalisco
Father of Prisciliana Cornelio Delgadillo abt 1880 Jal
Maternal Grandparents:Domingo Romo 1910-2003 Jalostotitlan, Jal
Parents of Domingo: Refugio Romo 1880 Jalisco
Trinidad Mora 1885 Jalisco
Wife of Domingo: Augustina Martinez abt 1910 Jalostotitlan, Jal
Parents of Augustina: Cepriano Martinez 1849-1920 Jalos
Gregoria Llamas abt 1855 Jalisco- ? Jalos
Children of Domingo Romo & Augustina Martinez
Antonio Romo
Asuncion Romo
Elena Romo
Esteban Romo
Francisca Romo
Maria del Carmen Romo
Patricia Romo
Raymundo Romo
Victoriano Romo
Marco Romo
Juanita Romo
Micaela Romo 1941 Jalostotitlan, Jal
There is a marriage entry for a Diego de Estrada who married Anttonia Velasco on 20 Oct 1692 in Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco, México.
Diego de Estrada's parents are not listed on this entry.
Anttonia Velasco's parents are listed as Diego Gomez and Mensia Velasco de Espexo.
So is Diego Gomez (de Espejo) & Mensia Ruiz de Velasco the same couple?
The seem to be the same couple; all the dates coincide; similar names; about the right age.
Can anyone help with this?
Also, if someone has info on Diego de Estrada I would greatly appreciate it. He is on my paternal line and I've hit a dead end on this one.
You can see the document on my profile page. Any translation of the document would also be helpful.
Thx,
Joe Rubio
