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I working on my family tree. My grandparent came from Pinos Zacatecas Mexico. My grandfather was Enrique Deladillo he had 9 children.

I would like to thank the 30 members of the Nuestros Ranchos Indexing
group. So far we have indexed over 1400 records. Thanks you so much for
your efforts. I would like to make an appeal to other members of the
group to join us.

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Quicera dar gracias a los 30 miembros del grupo de Indexacion de
Nuestros Ranchos. Hemos hacido la indexacion de mas de 1400 documentos.
Muchisimas gracias por su trabajo. Quisiera hacer una súplica a otros
miembros del grupo que se juntan con nosotros.

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joseph

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Joseph Puentes
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http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Hello, I'm trying to find relatives of Felipe Cadena Lopez and Zenobia Carrillo de Lopez from Corral Blanco, Jalisco area. They had children Juan, Amador, Leopoldo, Jose, Louis, and Emma Lopez de Casas born in Teocaltiche, or Villa Hidalgo areas of Jalisco.

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Hello Everyone,
I've been going through the Diocesis de Guadalajara's Matrimonios to find any informacion matrimoniales for Jalpa, Zacatecas prior to 1864.

As you may know, most of Jalpa's records before 1864 were burned or lost. I'm keeping track of those that I find at the Diocesis using Google Documents. I'm including the names, date, place, image #, the URL to the first image of the IM, witnesses, and Tronco(s). There is a separate sheet for each year.

The link below should take you to the document for viewing:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtBIJ1fILml9dGptYT…

What's interesting is that while I was searching for Jalpa, I randomly came across people from Jalpa in unexpected locations, including small outposts in Jalisco. There are also several places that appeared to be Jalpa, Zacatecas, but were in fact either "Talpa" (in Jalisco) or "Jalpa Encomienda" (maybe someone can confirm that is now Jalpa de Cánovas in Guanajuato?).

So far, I've found one possible lead to my own ancestors. Unfortunately, this lead has raised more questions that I need to answer before I can say it's paydirt or fools gold.

I'll be adding more years to this document in the upcoming weeks. If you want to work on a year, let me know and I can give you editing permissions to the document.

Saludos,
Arturo G

I am  trying to research my grandfather Gabino Gutierrez.  He was born in Valle
de Guadalupe, Jalisco, Mexico about 1889.  He migrated to the United States
about 1907, living in Ohio.  He married and had three children, my mother being
one.  My grandparents divorced about 1924 and he returned to Mexico, marrying a
Casillasand having two sons(Juan and Benjamin).  She died and he married her
younger sister Cecilla Casillas and had one son(Manual). My grandfather died
somewhere between 1968 and 1972.  I traveled to Mexico with my family  in 1964
to meet my grandfather  and Cecilla.  I have been trying to find if he has any
relatives still living and his history.  I have found some in Family Search, but
cannot tie all ends.  I see where he crossed the border in 1940 to visit a
sister in Los Angles.  I found her in the 1930 censuswith their parents living
with her.  I also found where his mother died in Los Angles and I know it is her
as it was stated her mother's maiden namewas Cruz and all the dates matched. 
But have not been able to see his sister's birth or any records. Any help would
be greatly appreciated. I am including link
http://nuestrosranchos.org/node/19073.
 Norma West

In researching my father I found a 1930 Mexico census on Family search with my grandmother as head of household but the residence is "Carcel Municipal de Guanajuato" I have pasted part of the information below. My question what does this mean? and is there somewhere to find arrest/jail archives? I am having a hard time finding birth record for both of my paternal grandparents :( so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Head of Household: Maria Luz Hdes
Residence: Carcel Municipal, Irapuato, Guanajuato, Mexico
Birthplace: Guanajuato
Marital Status (Spanish):
Film Number: 1464248
Digital Folder Number: 4107113
Image Number: 00078
Page Number: 21
Line Number:

Household Gender Age
Santos Zavala M 6a
Salvador Zavala M 1a

Today new records for Oaxaca and Yucatan were posted. Updates were made to Guanajuato and Michoacan.

George Fulton

the Oaxaca update doesn't show there, one
has to go to the Canada,USA and mexico section to see it.

Victoriano, thank you for sharing that! I thought I must have missed something when it didn't show up under my Mexico shortcut!

Annette

Many thanks to Eloise Reyes for putting together the following
"Interview Questions for Elder Relatives":

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19628

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Muchas gracias a Ma. Isabel González de López para la informacion
"Nuevos Archivos De Historia Familiar":

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19627

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Hola Members, I have a question concerning my ancestor Toribio Sanchez (marr. to Maria Nieves Martin) .Their Daughter Maria Fermina Sanchez(mestiza) born JULY 14,1822 San Juan de Los Lagos on bautismos 1816-1823 on Image 336. On the bautismo its states Javier Sanchez and Rafaela Lozano as Paternal Grandparents. I went to the familysearch.org IGI (old site) placed the couple mentioned and was given a daughter Maria Petra Sanchez(mulata libre) born Aug.13,1799 Atotonilco el Alto (bautismos 1793-1799,image 386).
The question is ,could the 2 couples -Javier Sanchez and Rafaela Lozano be one in the same ? Is it possible there was a migration from Atotonilco el Alto to the San Juan de Los lagos area ? Another statement Toribio Sanchez and Maria Nieves Martin had another daughter Maria Vicenta Sanchez born July 04,1824 San Juan de los Lagos (bautismos 1823-1829 image 59) and she was classified India. If they are the same couple ,they have a mulata daughter , mestiza and Indian granddaughters from the same parents. Appreciate any incite and I am I missing something ?
Thank you for your time
Ronnie Reynoso

Conosco un senor aqui en Carolina del Norte que tiene unos documentos de
el General Sostenes Rocha de unos batallas. El esta buscando lugar para
venderlos y esta contactando la embassia de Mexico.

Conosen ustedes quien puede tener interes en este sujeto?

joseph

pd: este senor es bis nieto de el.

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

if a certain relatives name is Juan Jose Leano de la Torre and his
parents are Antonio Leano and Juana Cardenas. What types of speculation
are possible for the "de la Torre"?

could it be any of these possibilities?: paternal grandmother's surname;
maternal grandmother's surname; What are some other possibilities?

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Genobeba Leanos --->Miguel Leanos/Ygnacia Muro ----->Juan Jose
Leano/AntoniaLedesma

Juan Jose's parents--->Antonio Leano/Juana Cardenas
Antonias parents----> Gregorio Ledesma/Micaela Luera Gutierres (at least
it looks like Gutierres)

* Mexico, Catholic Church Records
* Zacatecas
* Villanueva
* San Judas Tadeo
* Información matrimonial 1746-1749
* Image 464 of 552

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

We are researching the Family of Cristino Casillas and Mercedes Ornejo, from
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. Cristino came to the US in 1920 with his
wife and children, Blas, Marcelino, Maria de los Santos and Bernard. They
settled in Swink, Colorado where Cristino worked in a Sugar Factory. He
then moved to Rey, Arizona where he was a miner, and then on to Detroit,
Michigan where he worked at the Gas company. He had a brother Jose Casillas
who was married to Julia Padilla Casillas and they also came to the US in
1920 and settled in Superior, Arizona. The descending chart attached shows
the following family tree father to son. All were born in Jalostotitlan,
Jalisco, Mexico.

Line of descent:

1. Crisanto Casillas (m) Mariana Vega

2. Pilar Casillas (m) Candelaria Ornelas

3. Cristino Casillas (m) Mercedes Ornejo

4. Blas Casillas (m) Aurora de la Torre

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Nancy Casillas, Saint Clair, MI

Greetings to all,
How would you translate auto criminales and what are the contents?  I've attempted reading a couple and have found them very difficult to follow.  Perhaps if I read them in the proper context, it might be easier.
Thanks so much,  Alice Blake

My 3rd great grandparents were Eulogio Alvarez Flores and Carmen Flores Gonzalez. In the marriage info it says that they are related by "el parentesco de segundo con tercero de consanguinidad" Eulogio's parents were Jacinto Alvarez and Vicenta Flores. Carmen's parents were Carmen Flores and Antonia Gonzalez. I would like to know how they were related.

Rafael Meraz

Does anyone have the following names from the Zacatecas, Mexico area?

Simon Quinteros, son of Alvino & Alvina Rosales de Quinteros (Rio Grande, Zac, Mex)
md to Micaela Torres, daughter of Rafael Torres & Ma. Barbara Hernandez

Andres Mendez, son of Petronilo & Quirina Camacho de Mendez (Rancho Grande/Fresnillo, Zac, Mex) md to Dionicia Anguiano, daughter of Serulo? Anguiano & Gertrudis Campero. Serulo & Gertrudis also had another daughter named Jorja Anguiano who married Sebastian Fernandez in Zac, Mex.

Andres & Dionicia had several daughters together, one of which was my maternal ggrandmother, Domitila Mendez, who was married to Rafael Quinteros, son of Simon & Micaela Torres de Quinteros.

I have found these names through parrish records of the LDS church online but have hit a brick wall as to where to go to find info on the further back generations. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Julia D. Quinteros de Hernandez
Dallas, Texas

Sometimes it's useful to know which years have been indexed and which have not.

Nuestra Señora de Belén, Mineral de los Asientos de Ibarra, Aguascalientes
As of 18 Jun 2011
Bautismos
No indexes before 1766
Asientos 1766-1769 Mexico-EASy 1410924 batch # C64621-3, 889 results
Asientos 1775-1791 Mexico-EASy 1156077 batch # C03128-8, 5703 results (españoles volume 4?)
Asientos 1810-1821 Mexico-EASy 1156078 batch # C03861-5, 3383 results (vols 15-16)
Asientos 1821-1832, 1835-1838 Mexico-EASy 1410792 batch # C02537-7, 8734 results (prob vols 17, 18, 20)
Asientos 1818-1829 Mexico-EASy 1156079 batch # I04566-2, 2761 results ()
Asientos 1839-1844 Mexico-EASy 1156080 batch # C03861-6, 4548 results (vols 21-22)
Asientos 1844-1855 Mexico-EASy 1156081 batch # C03861-7, 6455 results (vols 23-25)
Asientos 1855-1856 Mexico-EASy 1156082 batch # I06667-9, 747 results ()
Asientos 1856-1858 Mexico-EASy 1156082 batch # I06668-0, 1252 results ()
Asientos 1858-1860 Mexico-EASy 1156082 batch # I06668-1, 1319 results ()
Asientos 1860-1862 Mexico-EASy 1156082 batch # I06668-2, 1234 results ()
Asientos 1862-1865 Mexico-EASy 1156082 batch # I06668-3, 1217 results (vol 28)
Asientos 1865-1871 Mexico-EASy 1156083 batch # C03861-8, 3859 results (vols 29-30)
Asientos 1871-1878 Mexico-EASy 1156084 batch # C02624-9, 4068 results (vols 31-32)
Asientos 1878-1885 Mexico-EASy 1156085 batch # C03861-9, 4336 results (vols 33, 34A, 34B)
No indexes for Asientos Baptisms found after 1885

Matrimonios
Asientos 1706-1729 Mexico-EASy 1410794 batch # M64621-8, 3297 results ()
Asientos 1729-1730 Mexico-EASy 1156091 batch # M01986-8, 154 results ()
Asientos 1744-1755 Mexico-EASy 1710794 batch # M64621-8, 3297 results ()
... (this is the same batch which includes 1706-1729)
No indexes from 1756-1791
Asientos 1792-1829 Mexico-EASy 1156092 batch # M64620-7, 6400 results ()
Asientos 1829-1857 Mexico-EASy 1156093 batch # M64620-8, 7937 results ()
Asientos 1857-1861, 1875-1893 Mexico-EASy 1156094 batch # M64620-9, 4695 results () plus 4 in 1870-1871
None after 1893

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Living history (Eloise Reyes)
  2. Tal vez no sepan que exist?amos. (Diego Israel Valles Lopez)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:02:19 -0400
From: Eloise Reyes
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org, lorenzocarrillo94@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Living history
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Nuestros Ranchos:
In preparation for the first ever family Reunion of the Gutierrez family, we
have decided to write a book of our history.  We prepared Elder Interview sheets
in English and Spanish so that the family members could interview the elders.  I
am willing to share our Elder Interview sheet if any of you ar interested.There
are 10 branches of Norberto & Margarita Gutierrez from Jalostotitlan.  My
cousins and I personally interveiwed the 5 children of my grandmother and
videotaped them.  We used the transcript for our Chapter.  Unfortunately, one of
the Tios died 3 weeks later.  We also did the DNA testing and the oldest living
survivor gave a cheek swab.  He, too, died last month. Our reunion is July 16
and we expect between 800 and 1,000 persons!  The living history, as recorded in
Our Book, will be a keepsake for all of our descendants.  I recommend that you
do your Elder interviews while you still have your familiy.

En preparacion para la primera Reunion de la Familia Gutierrez, nosotros
decidimos escribir un libro de nuestra historia.  Preparamos unas hojas
titutladas "Elder Interview" para la entrevista de los mayores de la familia. 
Las preguntas estan en Ingles y Espanol.  Si alguien quiere copia de las
Preguntas Para Entreviste del Mayor, se la podemos enviar. Hay 10 ramas (hijos)
de Norberto y Margarita Gutierrez de Jalostotitlan.  Mis primos y yo
entrevistamos personalmente a los 5 hijos de mi abuelita.  Grabamos la
entrevista en video.  Usamos la informacion para escribir nuestro capitulo. 
Desafortunadamente uno de los Tios fallecio 3 semanas despues.  Tambien hicimos
es estudio a ADN del mayor sobreviviente de la familia.  El fallecio unos meses
despues.  Nuestra reunion se llevara a cabo el 16 de julio y esperamos de 800 a
1000 personasy la historia viviente, aun ya escrita en Nuestro Libro, sera
nuestro tesoro y de nuestros desendientes.  Recomiendo que hagan sus entrevistas

mientras tienen a sus familiares.

Eloise Reyes

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From: lorenzocarrillo94@yahoo.com
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Living history

Lorenzo Carrillo

Linda, that's what I always do with my other great grandparents. Mentioning
names and places or events gets their memories back on track and talking about
things I like to hear from them about their childhood and families. Its kind of
hard thought because they're in their 90s and forgetting but reminding them
helps. 

So yesterday my 90 year old grandmother came for vacation. Already and she has been a great help in my quest for un-answered questions. I plan on recording / interviewing her as much as possible. She is a goldmine of information :)

Sent from my iPod

A travez de este medio convoco a todas las personas con apellido paterno Sanchez de Zacatecas (Jerez,Teul,Tlatenango,Colotlan y zonas aledañas) y Jalisco para que se realicen una prueba de ADN a fin de saber el parentezco ya que es un apellido muy comun y de diferentes origenes. Yo me hice la prueba en familytree y soy del haplogrupo R1b1a2. Mis ancestros llegaron a Garcia de la Cadena,Zacatecas Rancho La Tetilla alrededor de 1800 pero por la falta de registros parece imposible continuar mi busqueda. Por medio del ADN coincido con personas de Inglaterra,Irlanda, Escocia,Reino Unido y solo 2 personas de España todas con diferente apellido.

Gracias

franksanchezalvarez@gmail.com
juan.alvarez@sanmina-sci.com

Hello,
I've read a few marriage dispensations for Calvillo that reference "la Barranca de esta feligrecia." I can't figure out exactly what this town is today as there are a few "Barrancas" near Calvillo. Does anyone have a definite suggestion where "Barranca" might be?

Here's one reference, on the right-hand side of the image:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

Thanks, Arturo

Are their any archives on information about the educational background of relatives in our geneology tree going back to colonial times in Mexico?

Because how can one know of a relative was born in the 1700's in Mexico, how far in school did they get? Did they attend college?

Hi my name is Lynda Chavez and I must have made a mistake when I posted my introduction, I think that I only sent a link to one of my family lines. I have been working on some of my family lines and there are so many that I was hoping that others would have some connections to some of my ancestors. On my grandmothers side we are linked to Avila and Macias from Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco. It was only until the last several years in doing some family tree searches that I discovered that many (more than we thought) family members traveled to Jerome, Arizona from this area to work in the mines. I am a 4th generation of those ancestors to still be here, but many moved due to the mine shutting down in the mid 1900's. These are the families that traveled to Jerome, My great grandparents Andrea (Macias)& Santiago Avila who came with two infant daughters Refugia & Beatrice. An older sister Conception stayed behind and married a man with the last name Delgado. I know there is one relative from that line in Encenada, and the rest are now in San Diego. There were several children from this family and I think that she had grandchildren who were blind, but I heard sang beautifully. Santiago had a brother Isidro who apparently left Jerome and may have been killed in the war. He married Panfila Hernandez. Andrea had several brothers and sisters, Leonides who married Victoria Frausto, Enstanslao, Marciana, German, Castula, Cirilo, Eusebio, Sabina & Romulo. Jose and Romulo Macias came to Jerome. There parents were Crecencio Macias and Maria Jiminez. There were also other family relatives that traveled to Jerome by the names of Jiminez, Rosendo De la Cruz,Garcia, Romo(the Romo's moved to the Bisbee, Arizona area). I'm sure more will show up, I was just hoping some of you out there will notice a connection.